Argentina will take the Falklands’ oil drilling case to United Nations
Argentina will be taking the case of oil exploration in Falkland Islands waters by private companies licensed by the Islands government to the United Nations, but not to the International Court of The Hague as had been suggested since the London/Buenos Aires dispute resumed a few weeks ago.
Argentine Foreign Affairs Minister Jorge Taiana and Tierra del Fuego, Antarctic and South Atlantic Islands Governor Fabiana Ríos agreed to “work together” between the nation and the province on the controversy triggered by the imminent exploration for oil in the Malvinas islands, where an oil rig is expected to arrive sometime next week.
After a longer-than-an-hour meeting with the Foreign Ministry, Ríos pointed out that any legal report the Argentina may elaborate on the United Kingdom may be before the United Nations, but not before its main judicial organ.
“There are forums where complaints like this one can be reported, one of those forums is the United Nations itself,” Ríos explained.
Last week Governor Ríos with the support from other Patagonian provincial leaders rejected the announced drilling for oil in Falklands waters, following on the line set by the federal government.
Under the Argentine constitutions Governor Ríos has jurisdiction over the Falklands and other South Atlantic islands since that is how it has been established, with Ushuaia as the capital.
Minister Taiana reiterated that Argentina will continue with its standing claim over the Islands sovereignty and to protest the “illegal, unauthorized exploration in the Argentine continental shelf”.
“As we have said all along and anticipated when we knew about the oil rig coming to the South Atlantic, our claim remains firm and permanent. We are going to take all necessary measures in the legal and diplomatic framework to preserver our rights and our resources. About this we have talked with Governor Rios”, said Taiana.
“In the United Nations we have our presence and reiterated sovereignty claim and certainly we shall be pushing the issue before the Decolonization Committee next June, and we will not let go by any chance, opportunity when it arises”, added the Argentine official.
Taiana described the meeting with Governor Ríos as “very good, very constructive, very positive”. The Foreign Affairs ministry has responsibility over foreign policy and “in foreign policy the question of the Malvinas Islands has a fundamental priority”.
Finally the minister again warned that all those corporations which “directly or indirectly” collaborate with the exploitation of hydrocarbons in the Malvinas territory will be exposed and responsible for violating the Argentine legal system.
“All those cases where companies collaborate in the hydrocarbons issue directly or indirectly in territory under Argentine sovereignty and that do not have the adequate authorization, will be responsible”, underlined Taiana.
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Justice comes for everyone!
And Jorge slipped in there lauding it, applauding BS. ROTFLMAO
As usual Argentina will bleat, make a lot of noise and blow a lot of hot air but will conspicuously avoid having what it claims tested. No doubt a number of South American countries will mouth sympathetic platitudes whilst laughing behind your backs.
Argentina : 2 England : 0
( too many disabled in England team...always beg to referee....)
After much posturing and noise, the Arg gov't backs down from it's threat to take the matter to a binding international court. Insted it chooses to go the a shouting forum, to do a bit more shouting, to get the prats back home to beat their chests and wave their flags.
Meanwhile sensible people in the UK, FI, and Argentina will laugh and shake their heads. Best of luck to the Argentines who don't buy into the usual screaming rhetoric... the Falklands are increasingly making their own luck.
in 1978 and 1986 while optaining the cup ,our rivals were not england !
again it won't be in where it's old colony against us !!
did you see how we seized cris ronaldo from manu !?
at malvinas stadium our rivals are not neither england
nor scotland nor wales nor nort.irld. ...!!!!!!!!!!
Poor guy, is obsessed with our history, and I can even bet he knows more about Argentina's history than his own country's.
Dear new ignorant Sarah,
I live just in front of Malvinas and those islands are ours, so that I am going to comment whatever I want about that, got it????
And I don't care what islanders had decided!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mathieu,
You are a british/islander and love Cristina?????
”Now since (1833) in our islands we have pirates”
Have you forgotten 1831?? In 1831 captain Silas Duncan (Lexington)
arrived and removed the settlers. He charged them with PIRACY !!
( captured ships Harriet, Superior and Breakwater were retaken).
Obviously pirates and piracy was allready then accepted by the residents !!!
you will get a lot of money with oil investments the day your country negotiate with argentina; dont´expect succes in this conflictive enviroment.
But UK is a threat to Argentina; we don´t want britain as neighbours, look at your words, some words you are talking in your media about war.
Only possible solution is britain leaving south atlantic and kelpers assuming their duties as free citizens. We don´t want a colonial master in our doorstep. We don´t choose this conflict so we can´t avoid it; britain brought the conflict here invading and trying to dominate southamerican territories; Argentina´s attitude is a reaction.
Only eliminating the cause of the reaction, british presence as a colonial master, the conflict will end. If the conflict ends, in a peace enviroment investments will flow; including your investment.
(#17) ..don't wait in vain ! Britain alreday is finished . you pacifist kids !
(# 18 , # 19) i am the sharehoder to US Treasury too !?
(#19) need a translator in this comment .
bubba and jason archibald have same mental writing styles !!!!!!!!!
I believe Argentina has now referred the dispute to the International Court at the Hague, but populist policies and renewed rhetoric could precipitate renewed conflict, and from the many Argentine friends I have with memories of 1982, they all say this would be a disastrous course of action. I know that it can be frustrating for the UN to appear to do little concerning Argentine protestations, but the fact they do nothing in itself speaks volumes on their position on the situation, in my opinion.
Of colonial masters, if you read the history of Argentina, I believe you will find that they are in fact colonial masters of their own country, which lets face it, did not exist by name or recognition at the time the British first took control of the Islands. How about Argentina returning the lands back to the indigenous South American Indians? Further, what does Argentina propose to be other than colonial masters of the FI themselves. That argument shoots itself in the foot.
Finally, it would appear that the claim to the Falkland Islands is an issue used to unite Argentina’s fractious political parties and relieve the domestic pressure on the embattled Peronist government. But if President Christina Kirchner reckons that a renewed campaign of harassment against the islands would divert public attention from Argentina’s economic problems, its loss of a majority in mid-term congressional elections and a recent corruption scandal over her family’s alleged business dealings, she risks a massive political miscalculation. Argentina still depends crucially on political and economic support from America and international monetary organisations, which is where I am involved. Any attempt to hinder or prevent the start of oil exploration in the seas 100 miles north or the islands would also raise serious concern in Washington. From memory, the US gave strong support to Britain during the 1982 Falklands Conflict; now, when it counts on crucial British military engagement in Afghanistan, Washington would be deeply angered by renewed Argentine brinkmanship that risks fresh hostilities with Britain. As I mentioned above, I believe Argentina would also find Britain far from unprepared, as it was in 1982. A permanent British garrison is stationed on the Falklands, kept in a high state of readiness. Four new Typhoon fighter aircraft and a number of Royal Naval vessels provide a fully equipped fighting force that appear to regularly practise mock engagements with Argentina. Gordon Brown recently reiterated the legitimacy of the proposed new oil exploration, and Britain has given blanket assurances to the islands that it will not allow Argentina to dictate affairs in the self determined islands of the South Atlantic.
The press are stating that both London and Stanley are playing down Argentina’s denunciation of the oil exploration as “illegitimate”, dismissing it as rhetoric for domestic consumption. But if the threats continue, I believe they could create a dangerous momentum. In 2007 Argentina tore up an earlier agreement on joint exploitation of the waters between the Falklands and the mainland, who lost out on that opportunity? Last December its Congress adopted a law linking the islands to the southern mainland province of Tierra del Fuego, and politicians there have been discussing possible sanctions against the oil operations. The actions of a tin-pot dictatorship? Given its chronic economic difficulties, Argentina is only stepping up pressure to benefit from the estimated 60 billion barrel oilfield in the Falklands maritime zone, but to be honest, Argentina already have copious amounts of oil, and has that done anything to alleviate their domestic situation? Have a good day all.
I look for the commentators who have their own original opinions
in the Mercopress, not copied from crap and lier media .! ok...
To that end,on my point regarding the UN above, I found this; Argentina makes regular statements about it's claim to the Falkland Islands, and raises it in many international fora. However the FCO can confirm that we always refute these claims. We have no doubt about the British sovereignty over the islands. The principle of self determination is enshrined in the UN charter, underlies our position. There can be no negotiations on the sovereignty of the Falkland Islands unless and until such time as the the falkland islanders so wish. The Islanders regularly make it clear that they have no wish to either lose British sovereignty, or become independent. In his 2010 new years speech to the Falkland Islands the prime minister reaffirmed the UK goverment's position.
In addition, the Lisbon Treaty reaffirms the EU position that the Falkland Islands are an overseas territory of the UK. Furthermore, the Lisbon Treaty does not affect the status of the Falkland Islands as an overseas country or territory of the EU as set out in the 2001 ” Overseas Association Decision. Hence why the UN do not recognise or take any action to Argentina's spurious claims.
Further, I read in a subsequent Mercopress article: The Argentine opposition in the Lower House has asked for Minister Jorge Taiana to be summoned to report on the “Thor Leader” incident, believing the government is “over-acting”.
“In foreign affairs it is essential to reach the necessary consensus that enable us to set the basics for a State policy that ensures the standing exercise of sovereignty in the framework of International Law”, said Raul Alfonsin, opposition member from the Lower House.
Looks like President Christina Kirchner , far from raising popularity for herself in Argentina as a cheap way to raising her popularity, is in fact, scoring an own goal, i.e raising further concerns as to her competence, and causing other Argentine leaders to question her stance on the international rights of the Falkland Islands.
Now, Pepe, how about a little thought being placed into your next posting, or will it be another piece of immmature dribble?
do you believe that you live in this planet really !? I not !
unfortunately these problems can not be resolved at your
mentioned levels . UN has resolved which problems ? none of them ..
Treaties have resolved which problems ? none of them ...
I don't mean that there should be use jackboot but I don't believe
Jack's view to resolvings will do here ! of course there are many
other {methods} available .!.if you ask what will be the solution
answer is very absolute : Malvinas Islas' destination toward
blue blood ( noble) Argentine Flag !.
please don't jump down from plane if you see an island !
About te posture of both sides, i think that in some aspects it's pathetic, because our goverment doesent includ the islanders in the negociation, and the f.i.g. offered to talk about many important issues with argentina, but the sovereignty dispute is not on discution, with this idiot mentality, soported obviously by most falklands islanders, the conflict will remain for years, if the malvinas-falklands population think that avoiding to discusss the sovereignty dispute will give you the chance to became into an independent nation, i dont think it's going to happen, because we all still have a sovereign conflict, that's why we must find a fair solution for both sides, it would be unfair to pretend the total argentine sovereignty on the islands, and it's unfair to if the islanders pretend we to drop on our sovereing claim, i know perfectly that you hold your right to self determination, but you must understand once and for all please, that this decition benefits only the islanders, and we will loss our right on the islands, i know perfectly that most you think that argentina doesent have any rights on the islands, i gave you many times the bases to hold that both nations have solid rights on the islands, if any of you dont want to undersand it, that's your problem, i take many of your arguments, i changed my points of you about the conflict after reeding your arguments, i respect your posture, but i dont agree on it, and finally i think that as long as both sides sit once and for all and try to find a fair solution for all of us (argentine and islanders), we will have plenty of big problems in the future.<br />
We must learn to be objetive, notwithstanding we have a cause that involts our feelings, i recognize that it's hard and diffilcult, but we all must do it.
”Gov. Rios is the real governor (leader) of the Malvinas”
King Juan Carlos (Spain) also have the title “King of Jerusalem”
I am absolutely NOT sure, neither the citizens in Jerusalem, nor the Kelpers in Falkland Isl. will accept or understand such ridicolous and meaningless titles.
If you disagree.... I can comfort you by by nominating you to King of the Moon or Emperor of Mars Titles may be wonderfull, but sometimes meaningless....(and useless!)
On the other hand, like it or not, my country is not a joke, it's a country with good and bad aspects like any other, and it has so much to offer to the world, like every nation, this si evident that you lack of objetivity, finally you can reed my coment number 33, and you will be aware about my posture of the conflict, if you want we can debate deeply about the malvinas-falklands cause.
....let the Kelts decide on their future about Scotland,Welsh,N.Ir.Repubics .
s't up ,don't live like penguens there ££££££££££
come to us-opposite shore and live like a human .! Peso Peso Peso Peso
yu+3000 living in very good conditions......others, where are 249 ??
they migrated from this islands !!?? time the rest ones !?!?!?
everyone know that the malvinas have attractive livings where ::::
smoothly beachs,, sun,, sand ,,sea,,girls,,highways,,first class restaurants
skyscrspers,,windy and warmy climate,,cheap and amply meat,veg,fruit,no tax,,cheap and big houses,,free health system,,job guarantee (pardon no need to work).....
wi are jeaolous of yu !!
Owl, Dont be so cruel with them, sufficient they have living tormented in a uggly territory that dont belong them.
England is --titanic britanic-- who has overborrowed,leveraged !
insolvent country ! this is their reality !
May be you didn't realise that the media is only funtional to their economic interests, the soposed free press doesent exist eather in argentina, nor in the rest of the world.<br /><br />
My contry is not headed down the toilllet, of course we have many problems, and our goverment made very big mistakes, but i must recognize like me or not that we had also a great progress in many aspects, anyway i dont want another k goverment, your problem is that you just dont like the k, and you are against everything they do, anyway, if it makes you happy, keep on informing your self with articules from clarin and la nacion, or from that soposed free press, being ignorant could also an election of life, but dont talk about my country because this evident that you know just one side of the story, besid you dont live here, and you are ignoring many important facts and i am sure that you dont know not even the half of the good measures took since 2003.
I think that all of us (argentines and islanders), must have plane concience of the historic moment that we are living, the islands are the most prosperous place in the world, and i am sure that you want to keep it, because that was got only thank to you own effort, that's why in think that more than ever, both sides must sit and talk about te dispute, our goverment should talk to the islanders, and the f.i.g. must be disposed to discuss about the sovereign dispute, if we dont do it, i think that we are going to have serious problems in the future, i discard totally the possibility of a new war beleive it or not, but if we dont discuss once and for all and find a fair solution for both sides, the progress of both parts will be limited, the argentines can't pretend only the argentine sovereignty on the islands, and the islanders can't pretend neather we to drop on our claim, if we are not smart enough to recognize that we have a dispute, if we dont includ both sides, if we keep on wasting time, we will loss the chance of having more progress for our people, and for the future generations of argentines and islanders.
”If the Isle of Man was won in a war by Argentina and the people on the Isle of Man considered themselves to be Argentinian would the UK be content to let them be? I don't think anyone would let that stand.
Argentina wants to protect their national interests, which would be taking the Falklands. The UK wants to protect it's national interests.
This goes beyond the Falklands, without the Falklands, the UK has no claims to Antarctica a resource Gold mine in the coming years. Simple.
Ray, North Carolina, US
If Argentina controlled the Isle of man for the last 200 years, and they wanted to be Argentinian, I doubt any British would care. As it stands, that isn't the case. Argentina has no case and they know perfectly well that any act of aggression will lead to their humiliation in war.
There are a new generation, a new world, XXI Century people!, another american comment in bbc.com:
“If British were that strong will, USA still should have been British Colony.
UK lost all colonies, most recently Hong Kong. Time is coming British will leave Falkland Island also.”
Shahid, Chicago, United States
WE CAN FOUND A LOT OF VOICES AGAINST THE COLONIANILISM IN THIS CENTURY AROUND THE WORLD, THAT WILL BE OUR PROTEST IN THE UN FOREVER BEFORE UK RETURN US OUR MALVINAS (THAT ISNT NATIONALISM THAT IS THE BEST WAY TO THE PRINCIPLE OF INTEGRITY TERRITORIAL AND NOT THE JOKE OF THE “VIRTUAL” SELF DETERMINATION THAT IS EMPTY OF FUNDAMENTS.
Malvinas !!..Gibraltars !!.. next could be Canary Islands ??
Uruguay and Paraguay were all part of the Viceroyalty and so if the principle of Uti possidetis juris was applied, like you say, and the former colonial boundaries were maintained then surely the former Viceroyalty should have remain intact and there would just be one country?
Please explain why Uruguay, Paraguay and those parts of Peru and Bolivia which used to belong to the Viceroyalty are not part of Argentina.
1776 :: Brits leave plaque to assert claim on abondoned colony
1811 :: Spaniards withdraw from colony
1816 :: United Province of South America's independence from Spain
1820 :: flag of (Un.Prv.of S.Amr) later becomes Argentina ..on islands
1828 :: Argentine settlement colony founded
1831 :: US warships destroy settlement...
1832 :: Argentina sends a governor who killed in mutiny ..
1833 :: Brits Forces come to islands again.....
You say Brits in the South Atlantic are out of place but seem to forget where most Argentines come from.... Europe... Spain... Genoa... etc. Not to mention the Welsh in Chubut etc etc. Argentina is a country of IMMIGRANTS from EUROPE!
What gives you more rights to be in Latin America than the Falkland Islanders? And Falkland Islanders have been there for more generations than any Argentine families who live in Ushuaia, Rio Gallegos and probably most who live in BsAs. You did not even control Patagonia until after the Conquest of the Desert in the 1870s - then Stanley had already been in existence for decades!
And you conveniently forget about Guiana - another ex British colony in South America. I don't ever hear Argentina complaining that Guiana is out of place???
tactics and shams are the “same” in today's Iraq as where in
1831--1832--1833 !
at the front line wrenched,poor American kids ( soldiers)
at the back line cunning Brits Companies ( BP,,Shell,,,...)
also the same in these forums :
at the front line --Chenney Idiots -- American kids like Nicholas ...
at the back line cunning Brits kids like Jas.Arch.Roberts....
Application of the principle of Utis Possidetis Juris would confer a claim upon Uruguay not Argentina, since at the time the Spanish abandoned the Falklands they were governed from Montevideo. But heh while let facts get in the way, says Argentina.
Further Utis Possidetis Juris cannot be applied to a dispute with the British, since the British did not subscribe to the Conference of Lima and it is a basic principle of International Law that you cannot hold a country to a convention they did not sign up to.
Similarly International Law is not retrospective, as Argentina would like.
Oh, one other thing - where did the first European settlers of Tierra Del Fuego come from,and their livestock?- The Falklands! Where did the first settlers of the Rio Gallegos area come from - and the first sheep? - the Falklands- perhaps we can make a counter claim! Until about 1900 or so what was the currency used in business and language most spoken in Rio Gallegos? - the £sterling and english.
Added: Thursday, 18 February, 2010, 21:55 GMT 21:55 UK
“I have listened to the brits here saying the majority of the people in the falklands want to remain british,different strokes for different countries,
The majority of the people hong kong wanted to stay british,yous did nothing, The majority of Irish people want there country as one and your still there.The falklands/malvinas is not yours get out”
[masterpaddythedub], Dublin, Ireland
Malvinas next Hong Kong...
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Perhaps you should check out the readers recommended comments on that BBC forum. Not so much support for Argentina is there...<br />
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Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1252133/Man-pedaloes-chaps-save-Falklands.html#ixzz0fzPIdfvG<br />
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It's the bitter truth: We couldn't send a task force to the Falklands today<br />
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Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1252149/Its-bitter-truth-We-send-task-force-Falklands-today.html#ixzz0fzPWhJEt
bubba and jason archibald have same mental writing styles !!!!!!!!!”....
Yes pepe, I notice.
Bubba, I don't give a sh*t about what you think of me, ok!
You shoul write your usual crap and let me alone.
....“I just love it when someone who hasn't a clue what he's talking about thinks he knows whats better for you.”....
Justin, that's is talking about you. You have no clue about anything and you think you know what is better for us.
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