Monday, July 5th 2010 - 05:18 UTC

EU takes Argentina’s “restrictive measures” on trade to the WTO

The first week of negotiations in years between the European Union and Mercosur to reach a political and trade association agreement that took place in Buenos Aires did not end well.

Argentine Secretary of Trade and International Economic Relations, Alfredo Chiaradía,

The EU delegation anticipated that as had been announced it will take this week the problem of Argentine restrictive measures on EU foodstuff imports to the World Trade Organization.

The EU warning that had been floating since the discussions begun last week was confirmed at the end of the round by the head of the EU delegation Joao Aguiar Machado, Deputy Director-General for External Relations and Trade, who nevertheless considered the talks “very fruitful”.

“This week we will be taking the problem of Argentine restrictive measures to the World Trade Organization”, said Aguiar Machado.

However, the Argentine Government insisted on denying the restrictions and rejected that this situation could interfere in negotiations for an agreement of the EU 27 with the Mercosur.
 

“This problem is being taken out of proportion, making something huge out of something small. We have seen the hurricane of European declarations as if the bilateral trade between the EU and Argentina were being destroyed, and we're talking about 100,000 or 200,000 dollars,” the Argentine Secretary of Trade and International Economic Relations, Alfredo Chiaradía, said.

For the Argentine official, in charge of the Mercosur negotiations, the EU's claims regarding the supposed ban on foodstuffs is being given a “political use” with the objective of “dividing the Mercosur,” or with the objective of “justifying” in the future, paralyzing the re-launched negotiations.

Chiaradía recognized that “in Europe, there is fear of an agreement with Mercosur due to agriculture,” and he admitted that there are “four containers that are delayed” at the Argentine port, but he insisted that there is not measure banning imports.

The Argentine Industry Minister, Débora Giorgi, also denied there were restrictive measures and clarified that the dispositions adopted in cases of disloyal competition are in accordance to WTO regulations.

According to Giorgi, in the first semester of 2010, 19,000 tons of foodstuffs entered the EU, 38% more in relation to the same period of last year. “We see how developed countries use multilateral organizations as courts to judge alleged measures of developing countries, when they have been the ones that have been able to sustain productive sectors on the basis of subsidies and protectionist measures,” Industry Secretary, Eduardo Bianchi, added.

Argentina, temporary president of the Mercosur, has not published any formal regulation prohibiting the entry of European products, but importers have complained of pressures and bureaucratic delays in customs formalities.

In a moment “in which we're re-launching negotiations, a measure of this type does not help to create a good trust environment,” and if “this continues and gets worse, it could make conversations difficult” because “people wonder how we're going to negotiate a liberation agreement when there are countries precisely blocking,” Aguiar Machado evaluated.

Despite the difficulties, the European official highlighted the existence of “a clear will” on the part of the EU and of the Mercosur countries to make the dialogue progress and “improve their offers” regarding 2004, when conversations initiated in 1999 were blocked due to the impossibility of reaching an agreement.

The negotiations are developed in a context of pressure on the part of agriculture sectors of several European countries that rejected negotiations with Mercosur because they consider it would affect their interests, sin the South Americans are among the world's largest foodstuffs producers.

The EU and Mercosur delegations are to meet in Europe in September after exchanging specific offers in order to advance in negotiations
 

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1 Hoytred (#) Jul 05th, 2010 - 05:44 am Report abuse
Brazil has complained, now the EU has complained but still Argentina deny that there is anything wrong! Denial in the face of evidence to the contrary is clearly an Argentine trait.
2 Beef (#) Jul 05th, 2010 - 06:37 am Report abuse
Did I read that right? According to Argentina the EU is wanting to divide Mercosur.

Is having paranoia a criterion to be an Argentine politician?
3 Frank (#) Jul 05th, 2010 - 08:28 am Report abuse
I'm sure it helps......
4 globetrotter (#) Jul 05th, 2010 - 09:19 am Report abuse
Yep! AFIP makes life difficult for everyone. My company sells many machine / equipment spare parts to clients in Mercosur, notably Brazil, Argentina. Priority airfreight from Europe to SA generally takes 4 days to accomplish. AFIP takes 30-36 working days to “check ” the import before releasing it to the forwarder. In Brazil, this procedure takes 10-15 days. In Mexico 15days, in Chile 10days, in China generaly 5-10 working days within the associated European economic zone - 1- 4 days.....we even have a budget to assist the AFIP processing time for urgent deliveries because these idiots are eihter on mate break, fast asleep, or drawing salaries under false pretenses.
5 Hoytred (#) Jul 05th, 2010 - 11:11 am Report abuse
All sounds a tad .... Spanish, to me :-)
6 jerry (#) Jul 05th, 2010 - 01:45 pm Report abuse
globetrotter - By now, you should know that someone in AFIP is waiting for a “little fiddle” in order for your goods to go through the system.
7 avargas2001 (#) Jul 05th, 2010 - 04:46 pm Report abuse
What problem ?? people here talk about problems !
I don't see any problem here, all I see is EU taking UK side on Malvinas and being left out of Argentine, we don't need anything from EU if they will stab us in the back, go home stop bugging the Argentine people with your problems, maybe EU could mention the Malvinas problem to the WTO while they are there. LOL.
If they are not with us they our enemy, it's really too bad that they sided with UK really, now south America will have to go back to selling cheap farming produce and they will have to cry to WTO as we cry to UN for Malvinas.
8 harrier61 (#) Jul 05th, 2010 - 08:54 pm Report abuse
PLEASE NOTE: avargas is a contributor (?) to Wikipedia who is permanently barred for abuse and racism. Need we say more?
9 Frank (#) Jul 05th, 2010 - 09:35 pm Report abuse
#4 “AFIP takes 30-36 working days to “check ” the import before releasing it to the forwarder. ” I can confirm that..... conversation a few weeks ago at a suppliers... 'we will have them in stock in a week... they are with the Aduana' ' How long have they been with the Aduana??' ' two months........
10 avargas2001 (#) Jul 06th, 2010 - 05:07 am Report abuse
we have millions of immimigrants waiting for over 6 months for their legal status in EU and EU is worried about a potato sitting at “ADUANA” ? Who is the racist harrier ?
11 Think (#) Jul 06th, 2010 - 07:23 am Report abuse
1) Avargas has been banned from Wiki P. because of his constant use of unsubstantiated information; not for racism.

However, he touches an interesting moral question at (10)
What's more important: Goods or People?
12 stick up your junta (#) Jul 06th, 2010 - 08:58 am Report abuse
However, he touches an interesting moral question at (10)
What's more important: Goods or People?

and land or people
13 Think (#) Jul 06th, 2010 - 09:50 am Report abuse
(12) Sticky

Your “Land or People” question has been answered best by the most intelligent Briton in her: Mr Hoytred.

I quote him:
“Now the Antartic is the future issue that will energise the world and it'll depend on how important the Falkland Islands are viewed in that context. This I guarantee, if the Falklands were handed over, there would be no corresponding handover of South Georgia or the South Sandwich Islands (already split away in case the Islander's change their minds?) however the Falklands offer more habitable facilities so no, I can't see Argentina getting them even if all that was left were penguins!”
14 Hoytred (#) Jul 06th, 2010 - 11:28 am Report abuse
On second thoughts .... if I'm the most intelligent Brit here then maybe we are in trouble!
15 Think (#) Jul 06th, 2010 - 11:36 am Report abuse
Indeed you are, young one!
16 RA9212 (#) Jul 06th, 2010 - 12:25 pm Report abuse
Intellegent briton is an oxymoron.
17 harrier61 (#) Jul 06th, 2010 - 05:18 pm Report abuse
11 Twinky. I quote:
”19:18, 28 June 2010 (diff | hist) Falkland Islands ‎ (←Replaced content with 'racist whites british give the land back to the tens of thousands of Native Canadians and stop stealing the land from America using your 2000 white racist pyrats.')“
”19:14, 28 June 2010 (diff | hist) Falkland Islands ‎ (←Replaced content with 'racist brits go back to britain hypocrites and give back the land to the native Canadians rather then steal more land with your pirats in Malvinas. wakepeedia i...')“
”19:06, 28 June 2010 (diff | hist) Falkland Islands ‎ (←Replaced content with ' Malvinas Argentinas, british racist hypocrites go home to britain and start by giving back the land to native Canadians rather then steal more land from Argent...')“
”19:00, 28 June 2010 (diff | hist) Falkland Islands ‎ (←Replaced content with 'Malvinas Argentinas, british racists go home and give the Canadian natives their land hypocrits.') “
”11:41, 20 June 2010 (diff | hist) N User:Avargas2001 ‎ (←Created page with 'I think wekepedia is full of liars and racist pigs who lie to people to brain wash them for everyone to know there is a colony of british occupiers in Malvinas arge...') “
The editor who blocked this ranting clown was kind enough to note that it was for ”Disruptive editing”. Given the words used by the ranting clown, I call it racism. And if you or he don't like it you can shove it where the sun don't shine. Supercilious drongo.
18 zethe (#) Jul 06th, 2010 - 09:55 pm Report abuse
Another one who thinks we still rule canadia? I understand when it's one random uninformed person.

But i remember their president asking the queen to give back the islands, the nations leader does not even realise that we are no longer ruled by our queen? Quite embarrasing really.
19 harrier61 (#) Jul 07th, 2010 - 11:43 am Report abuse
Actually, it was Venezuela's resident idiot.
20 avargas2001 (#) Jul 07th, 2010 - 02:31 pm Report abuse
LOL harrier my comments are suported by facts, 10th of thousands natives in Canada were separated from their families, stripped of their land by white Canadians who exploit and pollute the land and guess what the UN does nothing for them, but when 2000 white pyrats attept to steal land from latinos they are up in arms, enought said, there is nothing to prove here when facts themselves speak for me, if you still don't believe how racist the white people are check how illegal inmigrants are treated in EU and USA and compare it to what the UK expects for their white pirat colony, illegal aliens are not welcome anywhere in the world, not even the white ones.
21 zethe (#) Jul 07th, 2010 - 07:14 pm Report abuse
What about the natives in your homeland?

How illegal inmigrants are treated in the EU? badly? are you sure? over here they give them a house and benefits, its a big problem.

Are you aware yet that canada is not ruled by the UK? Think i've told you on six occasions.
22 avargas2001 (#) Jul 07th, 2010 - 09:27 pm Report abuse
I llive in Canada and believe me Canada doesn't run their coutry, we are a province to USA and UK, didn't you noticed it ? or are you still in first grade ? even a Canadian can't argue with that, the facts is still ovious illegal alliens from latin america and the rest of the world are treated worst then white people, I am still wondering why.
23 zethe (#) Jul 08th, 2010 - 08:44 am Report abuse
“we are a province to USA and UK, didn't you noticed it”

This sentance proves that you are unworthy of the internet connection you use.
24 harrier61 (#) Jul 08th, 2010 - 01:57 pm Report abuse
@gassy. You have it wrong. YOU are treated worse than everyone else. This is because you are a bigoted, racialist, ignorant, stupid, brainless, mindless, despicable waste of space. Lord alone knows why the Canadian authorities leave you alone. Oh, of course, it's because you're a wetback, aren't you? Sneaked over the US/Mexican border, travelled north and sneaked over the US/Canadian border. A double illegal!!
If you don't like the country you are (illegally) living in, why don't you go back to your home s**theap?
25 avargas2001 (#) Jul 08th, 2010 - 03:41 pm Report abuse
Harrier I know how the brits are there was no need to descrive them, and by the way Canada and USA are my land not yours maybe fakland really got to you head and the fact that you guys polluted the gulf of Mexico do to the british racist ways, now BP treats North Americans like wetbacks as you call them, and believe me they had it comming to them, how is that line ? “stupid is as stupid does”. America is my land no border can keep me out the EU and UK can look from far away and STFU.. all we need you for is come to give us money other then that you are not welcome.
26 zethe (#) Jul 08th, 2010 - 05:04 pm Report abuse
That entire rant does not make any sense. But it's funny as hell.
27 avargas2001 (#) Jul 08th, 2010 - 05:36 pm Report abuse
I know zethe it was writen for people with at least a working neuron, I was sure none of the brits would get it. but that is ok they are irrlevant here this is a report for China and Argentine, the brits in here are trolls who come to do what they do best PEST. and now everyone can lought at you again with my comments, I have a question for you why do the brits call Americans wetbacks ?? is it because BP pist their water in the gulf of Mexico ??
28 zethe (#) Jul 08th, 2010 - 09:11 pm Report abuse
I don't know, i've not heard the term personally. Around my area we call them americans or yanks.

As for the pervious post. It's funny because it it's so rediculous.
“usa and canada are my land not yours maybie falklands got to your head”

...? What a completly random statement, especially after it took me three days to convince you that canada isn't UK territory.

You keep going on about us being racist, and yet you continue to spout racist and homophobic messages all over the forums.

the last sentance doesn't even make sence. the UK does not give money to USA Canada or argentina.
29 avargas2001 (#) Jul 08th, 2010 - 10:36 pm
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30 zethe (#) Jul 08th, 2010 - 10:49 pm Report abuse
A nuke wouldn't help you. No missile has the range for it to reach the UK From argentina.

Also, why a nuke? we've never threatened to nuke your nation, i don't see why it's nessacary. And to be honest we aren't exactly being aggressive towards you. In the last conflict if we wanted to we could have attacked your mainland, but we didn't. we would only use military force against you in defence.

Defend against invasion? we aren't planning or have never planned on invading your nation.
31 avargas2001 (#) Jul 08th, 2010 - 11:42 pm Report abuse
who said we need to send a missile into UK they ship meat and other stuff to UK I think it would be better to get a few nukes plant them in UK and then ask them to leave the island of face extermination if they don't leave we detonate it right in the heart of london, then we annex it to Malvinas and we turn it into one of our provinces, since they being trying soo hard to become Argentines, we need nuke to protect Argentina from a nuclear sub and the british troops in Malvinas, we don't want UK to arm Malvinas the way USA armed Israel, in any case we should get armed before they coe taking more land we all know they are headed to Rio de La Plata, or did you already forget 1830 ? in any case i am not taking the british words for it I rather have Argentina ready to defend Malvinas since UN seems to be irrelevant, you already did invaded malvinas and the colony is occupying our land, I think that act should tell our politicians we need to get nukes and defend ourselves from british invation, we could have deported all the ilegal aliens from Malvinas but yet we let them survive, they are lucky the junta was working for UK otherways they would have ended up like the 30.0000 desaparecidos, they will not be soo lucky next time I assure you of that.
32 zethe (#) Jul 09th, 2010 - 12:56 am Report abuse
A nuke would not help your nation in any way possible. The only thing you could do is nuke the islands which would be a bit counter productive.

You would be better suited using the money to sort your armed forces out, they are a joke.

Like i've said. Our nuclear sub is not armed with nuclear missiles. It's an attack sub for anti ships, possibly carring Tommahawks.

We aren't arming the islands. They the equipment needed to sink any landing ships, destroy any aircraft or repel a small commando raid. They don't need anything else.

Either way starting a war would be silly for your nation, We have a greater capacity for war, it would just be embarrasing.
33 avargas2001 (#) Jul 09th, 2010 - 02:34 am
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34 LegionNi (#) Jul 09th, 2010 - 07:45 am Report abuse
avargas2001 - You truely are a pathetic individual aren't you.
35 zethe (#) Jul 09th, 2010 - 09:48 am Report abuse
“USA, Russia, France, Spain, Israel, Iran, and N Korea have them for show ?”

All except the usa, yes. As only the US has ever used one. So they are for show.
36 harrier61 (#) Jul 09th, 2010 - 07:43 pm Report abuse
Look, at 27, gassy has found a new word, “neuron”. It's a pity that the person writing the comment doesn't have one. In a thread of 36 posts, including this one, gassy has posted 9 times. That's 25%. And he's had nearly 25% removed. That has to be good going.

Now to one of his points. “we have millions of immimigrants waiting for over 6 months for their legal status in EU”. The question is who is “we”? Can't be the USA as they like to tell everyone that they have the best country in the world. Can't be Canada as any proper Canadian would know that the best route would be via the UK. So they must be Argentines! So millions of Argentines want to emigrate to the EU? Argentina must be SUCH a great place if millions of its people want to live somewhere else! Of course, Argentina is a bit of a dodgy place. Belligerent, corrupt, egocentric, genocidal, mendacious. The EU, of course, is not keen on economic migrants unless they are of use. Now, of what benefit could millions of Argentines be to the EU? Street cleaners? Sewer cleaners? Refuse disposal? Don't need that many. So, there's the answer.
37 zethe (#) Jul 09th, 2010 - 10:41 pm Report abuse
36: Aye canada is part of the commonwealth so unless im mistaken they can move here no problems.

Then again, i thought just about anyone could move here with little fuss?
38 avargas2001 (#) Jul 10th, 2010 - 12:06 am Report abuse
35 zethe, we will not need to use them is the illegal colony in Malvinas goes back to their homeland britain, this is what they say they are british, sooo go home or else quit crying about how unfair big bad Argentina is, if you don't like Argentina get out of our land and nobody will slap you around, but all brits are alike they like being pushed around and cry like babys, all brits act like you homosexual, they stick out like flaming fags and if you say anything they cry wolf, typical british trade, make you wonder if they got this from the jews or the other way around.
39 zethe (#) Jul 10th, 2010 - 01:38 am Report abuse
The UK is not crying about anything. Think you'll find it's your nation who is “crying” in every forum available to them. All the UK has said is “There will be no negotiations” Then reinforced the islands.

Thats hardly the actions of a “crying” nation.

No-one is pushing us around.
40 avargas2001 (#) Jul 10th, 2010 - 02:31 am Report abuse
if it's us crying #39 What's the EU doing at the WTO, does EU think we don't have laws and regulations in Argentina ?? Argentina might be irrelevant to UN and EU, but in Argentine our laws should come first for national securuty, if EU doesn't like the way they are treated in Argentina, I will suguest they take their busyness elsewhere, why would EU waste time arguing at the WTO when there are other people in the world who would be happy to make a deal, move on stop crying.
41 Think (#) Jul 10th, 2010 - 06:36 am Report abuse
I want to draw your attention to this fascinating but sadly overseen MercoPress Fisheries article.
As we all know, fish is of paramount importance for the Islands economy.
This new discovery could be a “potent boost” for Malvinas products!

en.mercopress.com/2010/07/08/falklands-fisheries-scientists-discover-mating-habits-of-deep-sea-squid
42 harrier61 (#) Jul 10th, 2010 - 05:26 pm Report abuse
Already answered your dozy post elsewhere , Twinky. Don't waste people's time with multiple posts. It only demonstrates your inadequacy.

40. Hi gassy. Argentina is a gangster nation. Argentines are gangsters. Argentina is irrelevant to the entire world. Argentina is a waste of space. Argentina is a rebel colony of misogynist transexual morons. Argentina is attempting to spread poisonous foodstuffs to the free world. Argentina is secretly communist and in league with Communist countries to take over the world.
43 briton (#) Jul 10th, 2010 - 10:49 pm Report abuse
we hear on the grapevine, that Greece is very upset at Argentina, making things worse for them, i hear that the GREEKS have offered to go all the way down to the south Atlantic to give the Argentineans a slap,
[on the grape vine though,

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