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First time ever Argentine purchase of Russian military hardware

Thursday, September 2nd 2010 - 06:39 UTC
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Russia has signed a “historic” contract to deliver Mi-17 helicopter to Argentina, a member of a Russian delegation said on Wednesday according to a report from Russian news agency RIA Novosti. Read full article

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  • elian_Ar

    It's high time the Gov. increased our defense, in comparison of Chilean and Brasilian investment we are a step behind. Anyway as it says those helicopters are multi purpose it might help to save some lives, and that's always good news

    Sep 02nd, 2010 - 09:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Zethee

    It's a very good bit of equipment

    Sep 02nd, 2010 - 11:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Typhoon

    Also purchased by Thailand. Because it's cheap.

    Sep 02nd, 2010 - 12:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Zethee

    Around 60 nations use this equipment.

    Sep 02nd, 2010 - 12:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • fredbdc

    They are barred from purchasing US military equipment because they owe us $ from their last purchase. That why they don't have any new replacement parts and they have to part out their other jets to keep 4 flying.

    Sep 02nd, 2010 - 12:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • jerry

    Notice that this is for future delivery, just about in time for a new government to find a way to come up with enough money to pay for them.

    Sep 02nd, 2010 - 03:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Typhoon

    My information is that US Special Forces use these for the sake of deniability.

    Sep 02nd, 2010 - 04:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Zethee

    Yes, as do the UK Special Forces, deniability, and they are very reliable.

    Sep 02nd, 2010 - 04:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • jorge!

    We have enough money to pay for them, even if they were 20.

    Sep 03rd, 2010 - 05:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Fernando_A

    I hope we don't buy any more of these, they're ugly and they look like they're older than s--t!

    Sukhoi SU30 flighters I wouldn't mind

    Sep 03rd, 2010 - 06:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Rufus

    Fernando, the problem is that the Mi-17 is relatively cheap in comparison to the SU30 (like about an eighth of the price).

    Sep 03rd, 2010 - 08:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Zethee

    And they're proven to work very well.

    Sep 03rd, 2010 - 08:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • jerry

    Zethee - I do not know who “We” is, but Argentina has already stated that it cannot pay retired folks 82% of the minimum wage, as the country does not have the money. Where does the money come from to pay for 20 helicopters?

    Sep 03rd, 2010 - 03:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Zethee

    I don't know who “We” are either, You have me mixed up with the rabid argentine Jorge, such an insult!

    Sep 03rd, 2010 - 03:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • jerry

    Zethee - Sorry about that! MercoPress had the comment listed next to your name on my computer screen.

    Sep 03rd, 2010 - 04:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Zethee

    Haha, it's ok.

    Just thinking about it, Two heli's does seem like a rather small ammount

    Sep 03rd, 2010 - 04:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Fernando_A

    “According to Argentine Defense sources the multipurpose helicopters are to be used for logistic and rescue operations in Antarctic bases.”

    I guess it makes sense then as long as they're reliable, I would station one on the Antarctic and one on the Alt. Irízar icebreaker as cargo equipment and rescue.

    Sep 04th, 2010 - 02:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    just keep of the falklands,

    Sep 05th, 2010 - 09:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Fernando_A

    Confirmed, the two helicopters will be permanently assigned to the Argentine Antarctic bases.

    A total of three Sea King helicopters onboard the ARA Almirante Irizar icebreaker were destroyed in a fire that broke out in 2007, but they will be replaced by helicopters of the same make and model. Six Sea King helicopters have already been delivered, four operational and two for spares. Interesting note on this: http://www.aviationnews.eu/2008/10/28/navair-and-argentine-navy-team-to-deliver-six-sea-king-helicopters/

    One of the 'new' Sea King helicopters to be used onboard the Irizar, all nice and shiny
    http://www.aviationnews.eu/2008/10/28/navair-and-argentine-navy-team-to-deliver-six-sea-king-helicopters/

    Argentine Navy Sea King helicopter approaching the Irizar in 2005
    http://www.aviationnews.eu/2008/10/28/navair-and-argentine-navy-team-to-deliver-six-sea-king-helicopters/

    ARA Almirante Irizar on the ice
    http://www.aviationnews.eu/2008/10/28/navair-and-argentine-navy-team-to-deliver-six-sea-king-helicopters/

    The Irizar will be back in service in 2011

    Sep 07th, 2010 - 09:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Nicholas

    Clown Elian typed:
    “...in comparison of Chilean and Brasilian investment we are a step behind.”

    Laugh, just a step? Your nation is way way waaay behind.

    Jihad Jorge typed:
    We have enough money to pay for them, even if they were 20.

    Laugh, You meant you have enough of borrowed money to pay for them and you meant, you have enough money to pay for them, if you don't pay the bills, include domestic bills.

    LAUGH.

    Sep 07th, 2010 - 06:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    chuckle chuckle

    Sep 07th, 2010 - 09:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • jorge!

    We have as ever a lot of international reserves and our economy is growing and growing, we could turn you into a cheap s**t if we wanted with our money.

    P.S.: How are you doing with socialist Obama?
    Are you working on the road to pave them as your president promised? LOL

    Sep 07th, 2010 - 09:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Typhoon

    Oh Gawd! gorge is on his drug-induced dreamland trip again.

    gorge. You don't have lot of international reserves. You just have money that you are holding back rather than paying your debts.
    Your economy may be growing slightly. But your economy is only worth one hundred thousand millionth of what it was worth 30 years ago. You are living on subsidies. And when the Kirchners think they've made enough profit and pull out to live in some palatial mansion somewhere else in the world, you'll find out how poor you really are.

    Sep 07th, 2010 - 11:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Fernando_A

    We're talking about helicopters, this is a neutral article. You're acting like five year olds no one gives a shit.. pretend you're adults and shut up.

    Sep 08th, 2010 - 07:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Zethee

    You are talking about helicopters, clearly the subect changed, deal with it.

    Sep 08th, 2010 - 07:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Fernando_A

    Clearly none of you are capable of holding a normal conversation, not one of you.
    You're just here to rant, can't imagine how dysfunctional your lives must be.
    -carry on

    Sep 08th, 2010 - 07:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Bad news for brutish warmongers.
    Good news for British people.
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/sep/07/defence-budget-expensive-showing-off

    Argentina shows its lead again.....
    Not only is our economy growing at “Chinese” rates in the midst of the worst economical crisis in the last 80 years...................
    Not only do we allow anybody to publish anything they wish (even libel) in our Country..................
    We also dismantled our “military apparatus” many years ago........

    Time for Britain to learn something..............

    Sep 08th, 2010 - 09:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Zethee

    “You're just here to rant”
    He said, while ranting.

    Think, the author of that is the same guy who thinks scrapping the entire armed forces is a good idea.
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/jun/08/cuts-armed-services-fantasy-enemies.

    ”Not only do we allow anybody to publish anything they wish (even libel) in our Country“

    This isn't something special think, most nations governments allow the media to publish what they like within reason.

    ”We also dismantled our “military apparatus” many years ago”
    You just announced a 50% rise in military spending....

    Sep 08th, 2010 - 12:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Typhoon

    “Clearly none of you are capable of holding a normal conversation, not one of you.”

    Unfortunately, F_A's idea of a normal conversation is where he makes one or more points and everyone agrees with him. People who have a different view, even if they refer to evidence, are slagged off. Typical Argentine psychopath.

    Sep 08th, 2010 - 01:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Zethee

    He had no objection with changing the subject when he said the belgrano was a war crime, and i proved him wrong. Or any of the other times when he makes rubbish up with no proof to back it up.

    Infact he told me to change the subject.

    Complains about us ranting yet i constantly see him refering to us as wankers or constantly using vulgar language.

    Sep 08th, 2010 - 01:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marco

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1296624/Royal-Marines-Paras-face-merger-controversial-military-shake-up.html

    Zhethee, is your gun getting smaller?

    Sep 08th, 2010 - 03:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Zethee

    Not really, I've known about the army loosing upto around 20,000 men for a while. Ground troops are quick to train thats why they are being cut rather than big items which take years to make.

    I don't even see the problem with merging the two together, the Paras don't even do jumps now since tech has moved on.

    Sep 08th, 2010 - 04:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • avargas2001

    good start I wish we had invested in some nuclear defence tactical weapon rather then buying this helicopter, for the same money we could have build this helicopters in Argentina, this was a waste of money, maybe we will wake up and stop wasting money on this worthless chooppers and work on a nuclear defence program.

    Sep 08th, 2010 - 04:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Zethee

    It's cheaper to buy items rather than to create your own. A nuclear defence program would cost you tens of billions.

    Sep 08th, 2010 - 04:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Typhoon

    Paras and Royal Marines will NOT be merging. Although, if I were an Argentine, I'd be sh*tting myself if they did.

    For the nonce, no South American or Caribbean country can have a nuclear defence program. Except for very deep holes. Any attempt to develop such a program will place them in the same category as Iran.

    Sep 08th, 2010 - 05:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Fernando_A

    You'd rather bark at each other over and over like idiots, but I'm the psychopath. Yea.. makes sense
    And no, I couldn't care less for your approval.. 'typhoon'

    Sep 08th, 2010 - 06:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • stick up your junta

    Can you hear the drums Fernando?
    I remember long ago another starry night like this
    In the firelight Fernando
    You were humming to yourself and softly strumming your guitar
    I could hear the distant drums
    And sounds of bugle calls were coming from afar
    :-)

    Sep 08th, 2010 - 06:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • harrier61

    That's OK, F_A. You don't have it.

    Sep 08th, 2010 - 07:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Typhoon

    Dammit, you got there before me.

    Sep 08th, 2010 - 07:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    Fernando_A
    like slaging off others , and insulting them, still once a prick always a prick, and just like argies they only have a small prick, slagg of all you want, more the little pricks you make , the more a bigger prick you are, Fernando_A, run rabbit run rabbit run run run,

    Sep 08th, 2010 - 09:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Alvaro

    Hello from Punta Arenas, Chile.

    Sep 08th, 2010 - 10:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Fernando_A

    Hola Alvaro, from Rosario, Argentina
    Ignore all the crazy comments from the Brits, they've fallen behind on their medication I guess.

    Sep 09th, 2010 - 04:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0

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