Falkland Islands: Oil activities still remain encouraging
THE offshore oil drilling rig Ocean Guardian continues its work at Rockhopper Exploration’s Sea Lion well, where hydrocarbons were encountered earlier this year. The well at that time was suspended for re-entry and testing.
Director of Mineral Resources Phyl Rendell said the current programme included re-entering the well, drilling through cement cores, locating the hydrocarbon intervals and testing before the well would be permanently plugged and abandoned.
The activities are expected to last between 25 to 35 days.
Mrs Rendell said the actual flaring of carbons was likely to last less than 48 hours.
While she described recent activities as “encouraging steps” she said there was no guarantee that the well would produce commercial hydrocarbons until more appraisal wells were drilled and further analysis carried out over the following months and years, to establish the economic viability of the field.
After the drill stem test on the Sea Lion prospect, Ocean Guardian will be contracted by Desire Petroleum to drill at their Rachel structure, which is located south of Sea Lion in licence PL004. Desire Petroleum director Ian Duncan and chairman Stephen Phipps plan to visit the Falklands at the beginning of October.
Argos Resources have meanwhile successfully listed their company on the London Stock Exchange AIM and set up their office in Argos House in Stanley.
They now plan to conduct a 3D seismic survey over their acreage where two wells have already been drilled and hydrocarbons encountered in 1998.
Mrs Rendell said new data would equip the company in “de-risking drillable prospects.”
Meanwhile in the northern hemisphere Encore Oil has enjoyed a surge in value after discovering a significant new oil field close to the Shetland Islands.
But would this be likely to detract from exploration activities in the Falklands?
Mrs Rendell said she did not think it would have any impact on the exploration programme in the Falklands because most operators did not have licences to explore elsewhere and had licence commitments that needed to be fulfilled.
“As it can take over a decade to develop an oil field, with no guarantees of production if the economics don’t justify development, exploration can be expected to continue around the world, including the Falklands,” she said.
“The Falklands is of course only one country out of many promoting oil exploration, and companies weigh up the odds when applying for licences.
“We are fortunate to have committed licensees who are investing a lot of money in exploration at present, which is benefiting the local economy. We hope it will continue,” she said. (Penguin News)
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Wrong Malvinas is an old colony of UK that belongs to Argentina and South America.
” she said there was no guarantee that the well would produce commercial hydrocarbons ”
Is she opening the umbrella before failure news hit hard?
That was my first impression when I read the article.
Shetland Islands umm seems a good option for me.
“We are fortunate to have committed licensees who are investing a lot of money in exploration at present, which is benefiting the local economy. We hope it will continue”
Sounds the preamble of “Hasta la vista baby”
Of course commercial flow is not established but RKH have enough data to be very bullish about this flow test (the wirleine logs and the api results are pointing to a sucessful flow test). The next step will be a full appraisal programme but this is some time away after a number of other prospects have been confirmed and flow rates confirmed.
Your hopes of this being a failure are based on looking for non existant clues in sound bites. Very sad individuals.
The Islands have a first rate record on Maritme conservation to date. We are a (if not THE) world leader in seabird death mitigation control. Death to albatrosses is no virtually zero in Falklands and South Georgia zones.
We used to have joint maritme conservation meetings and agreements with somebody - until they threw a little tantrum and ran out of the door - wonder which country that was? A clue - name begins with A---. This even was meant to control the areas outside both our zones - so now there is nothing- thasnks to A----. Suggest you look at home first before you criticise others over conservation.
As for Oil - Beef is totally correct - neither you nor Billy are anymore of a petroleum expert than me - and I am not! But I can understand commonsense and reality.
Share prices - there is so much media hype and speculation it is all a bit silly at times. Always remember the good basic press rule-“never let the truth get in the way of a good story” - UK is just as bad as Arg media in that!!
All the fuss Arg is about to make at the UN over risk of oil pollution by offshore work here is a farce - cannot your Lady look at a map and wind and ocean currents!! It would have to go all the way around the world, back around Cape Horn and then turn left into prevailing winds and currents to hit your beaches!
Suggest you dig a bit deeper, find out about his qualifications and what the trial judge had to say about him being the author of most of his misfortune.
So far we have a gas discovery and an oil discovery that is being flow tested. Such oil finds do not happen in isolation so am happy to sit an wait for more of sea lons brothers and sisters.
In exploration 4 drills with a 1 gas find and 1 oil find is considered a very pleasing result :-)
BTW - if the oil exploration was illegal then why hasn't your government taken the matter to the ICJ. Looks like they are afriad to have their legal arguments systematically cut to ribbons, which would lead to more embarrasment.
The only thing that is failing is Argentina's futile attempts to stop the drilling. Even your apparent supporters are not bothered about your bleating. Brazil even welcomed the rig into its ports on the way down.
Nice try but it is about time you engaged with reality and not your deluded view of the world. You will be happier!
Seeing as you like the Guardian, a more balanced perspective on Bingham's claims. Anyone care to guess his current employer?
I'll give you a clue it starts with an A, ends with an a, and has 9 letters.
www.wsws.org/articles/2003/feb2003/arge-f22.shtml
“Simon Reeve leads a team of presenters on a journey through the spectacular landscapes of Argentina, from the vast ice fields of Patagonia to the wide-open plains of the pampas.
In the south, a group of indigenous people are locked in a historic dispute with the area's biggest landowners, Italian clothing giants Benetton; in Buenos Aires, the children of the disappeared are seeking to find out the truth of what happened to their parents at the hands of Argentina's generals; and in the pampas we meet one of the last true gauchos, whose way of life is being destroyed by an argricultural revolution.
On the way, we take in one of the greatest matches in world football, visit a penguin colony on the edge, and meet a bishop with a rather unorthodox interest in Evita.”
And of Bingham and his Supreme Court Victory:
The applicant comes out of this with no credit either. It is apparent that in a number of ways he has tried to obscure or mislead and has to a certain extent been the author of his own misfortunes.
Chief Justice Wood
en.mercopress.com/2003/10/31/penguin-news-update
Oh and by the way, he won his case in the Supreme Court, so how is this in anyway supposed to demonstrate that the Falklands is “authoritarian”.
Were this Argentina for example, Presidential Decree and he'd be gone.
Anyone guessed who employed him?
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/2062771.stm
Tell me, are you so engrossed in posting the same crap over and over again, to realise that the later article has been posted, its much more toned down reflecting that perhaps Mike Bingham wasn't the best source for the first article. Not to mention what the judge had to say about him in his great victory in the Supreme Court.
“The applicant comes out of this with no credit either. It is apparent that in a number of ways he has tried to obscure or mislead and has to a certain extent been the author of his own misfortunes.”
There weren't any death threats, a few unpleasant calls, that were traced by the FI police.
“Political Corruption” some official exceeded authority and the Supreme Court slapped them down. The system worked, the balance between Executive and Judiciary.
“Freedom of Speech in Argentina”
Unless you happen to criticise Cristina....
He left for Argentina with his Argentine girl friend who was 5 months pregnant, to take up a job with the Argentine Government who made him a better offer.
The truth is out there but lets face it Marco, you ain't interested in the truth. Or facing awkward questions either.
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/2484061.stm
The Semillas al Viento farm is a part of Huerta Nino (My Garden), a nonprofit foundation that works to alleviate malnutrition and starvation in Argentina. Since 1999, it has helped build more than 50 small farms, many of them in isolated villages in northern Argentina. Despite being one of the world's largest agricultural-producing countries, Argentina still struggles to feed its people.
“Hunger is one of the gravest problems that Argentina has right now. At least 300,000 Argentine children are suffering from undernourishment,” says Juan Lapetini, executive director of Huerta Nino.
Post (19) by Justin Kuntz is a good example of this ” man with a mission” methods of twisting his realities with omissions and small but strategically well placed lies……
He uses this method profusely in Wikipedia where not only the Falklands but also Gibraltar are his roaming areas…….. An imperial keyboard warrior…..
Back to Dr. Bingham……
His wife is not Argentinean but Chilean …..
They did not wish to leave the Islands……
There was no “better offer” waiting in Argentina….
The three of them were threatened and ostracized by many Islanders to protect “vital economical interests”….
And to finish:
The problem with penguin mortality extends nowadays to the sea-lion and sea-elephant colonies in Malvinas and it is very real.
This is no secret in the Islands….. It can (quite indirectly) be read in their own official homepages and PDF documents…..
Most (if not all) of Dr. Bingham data and censes are still being used in the official statistics and publications.
Dr. Bingham conclusions about penguin mortality are still, by far, the most logical explanation for the problem.
Come on Marco embarrass yourself again.
Why we have to go to a court base in Europe when we can go closer as it is a regional dispute?
After all you keep claiming that the Islanders have full control of their lives. Or is another lie?
We can take the case to OAS or UNASUR are you afraid?
Or we can go to the 3 and wins who gets 2 favorable sentence that would be fair. Don’t you think so?
Again are you afraid?
Come on beef the only one embarrassing himself here is Mr beef.
Take your argument to the OAS if you wish. All the verbal rhetoric is meaningless. I have put my money where my mouth is. Have you?
www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/energy/oilandgas/7978602/Rockhopper-execs-collect-early-bonuses-after-Falklands-oil-find.html
On your posting on Mike Bingham, what was deemed to be wrong was the WAY Govt here did what they did - not the aim - just the methods. At the end of the day he was still a Deceitful Liar - even he cannot dispute his false credentials he used to get with at first.
Nico, how did you forget that?. “Beef is a royal member” and we need to bow to him, like they do to their Governor from Anguilla.
Let's not forget that he gain a Phd....in garbage collectiom.
But no-one bows to the queen or any royal family member anymore.
There was no foul language, editor, are we a bit biased?
UNASUR doesn't have a court. The OAS has the Inter-American Juridical Committee
www.oas.org/cji/eng/inter_american_juridical_committee.htm
It's an advisory body, ie non binding, and it can't determine sovereignty. To take any case regarding the Falklands there, first you would have to make the Falklands, or the UK as its sovereign state, a member of the OAS.
OAS stands for Organization Of American States, OAS does not recognize the name “Falklands”, only Malvinas. The UK is located in Europe so it cannot be part of the Organization Of American States. Can it?
Consequently, Islas Malvinas becomes a member of OAS, as NO ONE in the American continent refers to Malvinas as “the Falklands” and NO ONE within OAS disputes Argentina's sovereignty over Malvinas.
Was that clear enough?
blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/nilegardiner/100043042/hillary-clinton-slaps-britain-in-the-face-again-over-the-falklands/
“5. The name ''Malvinas'', is a bastardisation of the French name ''Malouines'', the early French claim being taken over by the Spanish. The original Argentine name, as published in the original sovereignty claim, was ''Islas Falkland'', something conveniently forgotten.”
I think we can now forget all this “Malvinas” codswallop. If South Americans, particularly Argentines, can't remember the name in their claim, we'll just call them “The Islands”.
I can read in this article that:
www.guardian.co.uk/uk/1999/oct/11/johnezard
1) He was prosecuted but THE CHARGE WAS ABANDONED on grounds of high witness costs…
2) The Falklands Inquiry asked the Falklands Conservation UK office to check Mr. Bingham’s documents. They produced a handwritten application form on which he did appear to claim a first class Open University degree. The form WILL BE EXAMINED BY HANDWRITING EXPERTS.
3)Mr. Bingham said when told this: “I don't remember writing this.”
To the best of my knowledge, the case was never reopened…. The document was never analyzed by any “experts” and Dr. Bingham continues to deny the charge..........
But still you are able to declare:
”At the end of the day he was still a Deceitful Liar - even he cannot dispute his false credentials he used to get with at first.”
How comes?
Let us pose some questions...........
1 - Did Bingham apply for the post that he was given?
2 - Did he provide any evidence of his qualifications?
3 - Why did he not produce “his” copy of his application form?
4 - Who, besides Bingham, might have written his application form?
5 - Why did Bingham promptly take up a post in Argentina?
6 - Is it possible that Bingham had previously been working in South America and his new job in Argentina was a reward/promotion?
So Wikipedia.
On the Falklands I have worked with a number of Argentine editors, I helped write the GADA 601 article for example. A number of Aregentine editors I actually consider friends and I have Barnstars for writing neutral and well researched articles.
On Gibraltar, there were a number of Spanish editors who wished to hijack the article to remove any mention of devolved Government, the democratic elections and, well, basically they got away with it. I happened to be in a bad way mentally at the time. I didn't however use my problems with PTSD as an excuse.
As regards Bingham, when I first read about what had been happening, in the Guardian as it happens, I was, like Terry Peck, outraged, Then when I looked into it a bit further I found it was not as clear cut as portrayed. Read the later article in the Guardian, it is toned down significantly and the judgement in the Supreme Court is not as clear a victory as you portray.
I was in fact responding to the one sided derogatory posts, providing information that someone objective would have provided.
I do however note Think that you project your own failings onto others. A ”man with a mission” twisting realities with omissions and small but strategically well placed lies. I don't have a need to lie but you do all the time, I note that you never address any awkward question put to you. Your debating style seems to be trying to drag up dirt on people, funnily enough I've never felt the need to try and dig up dirt on you from Facebook or Wikipedia, though from your comments I would have a pretty good guess at who you are.
More later.
And WikiP shares my judgement…………..
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2010-05-17/Arbitration_report
Wikipedia Signpost / 2010-05-17 / Arbitration report
Gibraltar: The case was opened to address issues of ownership and nationalist warfare on articles related to Gibraltar. As a result of the case, both “Gibnews” and “Justin A Kuntz” were topic-banned from articles related to Gibraltar (the former for a year, the latter for three months), and discretionary sanctions were enacted for the subject area.
They could then go onto Buenos Aires if they wanted to.
Excuse me .........but what you are saying sounds very much like the kind of “justice” you could get in the “old days” Latin- American or African dictatorships ....
You acuse a man.......
Then, you drop the case.......
You mention some documents.....
But never produce those documents....
The man gets no chance to defend himself...
But for you, the man is indeed guilty as bloody hell.....
Some justice !!!
About OEA, UNASUR, C24 or wathever “fact finding” visits.........
Mate,................. that's your Government job to organize.....
I have read in here a couple of times about the existence of a so called “Open Invitation” to visit the Islands.....
No such thing exists in the “diplomatic” world....
That's not the way it's done........
And yes Think there is an open invitation for the C24 to visit both Gibraltar and the Falkland Islands. If that how it isn't done pray tell how does the FIG otherwise get people to visit and find out for themselves?
Also Think, the document in question was produced and he did get a chance to defend himself in the Supreme Court. Simply one aspect of the case wasn't pursued.
As a matter of fact, C24 has been invited to visit on a number of occasions. I wonder how that works? C24 is invited and turns up, C24 is invited and doesn't turn up? C24 isn't invited but turns up anyway?
C'mon Twinky. Answer. FOR A CHANGE!!
www.falklands.net/FalklandsCorruption.shtml
On the bright side, if the UK f---s up again and spills oil all over the damn place, all we have to do to get rid of you is light a match.
en.mercopress.com/2008/09/29/clue-witness-ready-to-testify-in-suitcase-money-scandal
www.zimbio.com/Maria+del+Lujan+Telpuk/articles/5/Venezuelan+Suitcase+Scandal+How+Many+More
www.cfr.org/publication/14097/argentinas_mystery_money.html
www.vheadline.com/readnews.asp?id=86411
A website built by someone with a grudge isn't.
Oh and isn't Argentina drilling off-shore? Wouldn't want to be a bunch of utter hypocrites would we?
Funny as BP is not a UK company?
Torrey Canyon.....
Amoco Cadiz.....
Sea Empress...
Brent Spar...
Braer...
Rockdropper... 308 p
Dis you short this morning?
BP - A joint UK /US company, with amrican managment and american workers spills oil in the gulf.
Yes, the UK really messed up there.
Memo to Brits: Quit whining about the name. Americans are incredibly pissed about what BP has done in the Gulf”
www.salon.com/news/feature/2010/06/14/british_offended_bp_obama
Did you skimp your research this morning. Now depends what you mean by a “UK oil spill”. UK waters or UK owned.
Torrey Canyon - At the time of the accident it was registered in Liberia and owned by Barracuda Tanker Corporation, a subsidiary of Union Oil Company of California but chartered to British Petroleum. UK Waters.
Amoco Cadiz - Owned by Amoco, Amoco Corporation, originally Standard Oil Company (Indiana), was a global chemical and oil company, founded in 1889 around a refinery located in Whiting, Indiana. Amoco Cadiz actually happened in French waters.
Sea Empress - Owner: Alegrete Shipping Co, Inc., Monrovia but UK waters
Braer - Owner: Braer Corporation, Operator: Canadian Ultramar Ltd, UK waters.
There have been a couple of spills but always foreign owned and operated vessels.
Really not sure what you were thinking of with Brent Spar -
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brent_Spar
It wasn't an oil disaster, in fact it was never even a spill. Would that be twisting realities with omissions and small but strategically well placed lies?
I note that yet again you're dodging questions with obfuscations.
Not interested in the daily fluctuations which are not of any concern!
”Amoco Cadiz contained 1,604,500 barrels (219,797 tons) of light crude oil from Ras Tanura, Saudi Arabia and Kharg Island, Iran. Severe weather resulted in the complete breakup of the ship before any oil could be pumped out of the wreck. Therefore its entire cargo of crude oil (cargo which belonged to Shell) spilled into the sea, as did 4000 tons of fuel oil..... In subsequent legal proceedings in Chicago, United States, the owners of the tug were held to have been completely blameless while France was awarded US$120 million from the American oil company Amoco in 1990.“ Who did you want to blame? Amoco? American company. Shell? American company.
”Greenpeace's own reputation also suffered during the campaign, when it had to acknowledge that its assessment of the oil remaining in Brent Spar’s storage tanks had been grossly overestimated.” Whoops!
Others already dealt with by Justin.
I notice that there hasn't been a single South American poster, including twinky, who has attempted to answer my questions at (47).
Plus the spread wouldn't have been appropriate for me to short. Too small a margin for my small free capital.
Anyway the flow test is underway with a 30 day estimate, although the weather could delay things a bit. Will be interesting to see when the OG starts flaring - a beautiful site that I occasionally see when flying over the Arabian gulf at night!
You say that you are not on the I I I but you certainly sound very much like those guys ;.)
“Now the only thing to decide is on wich side of the platform to flare” etc. etc. etc.....
I guess we will have to wait those 30 days....... wont we?
oil or no oil the Falklands are British, win win situation :-)
Could be 30 days or could be less (could me more depending on the weather). We will have to wait and see.
Until then I have a chapter on Evidence Based Practice within the context of UK healthcare policy from 1991 to the current day!
Funny, reminds me of a question a I asked recently to a Malvinas islander. “What does your passport say on the cover?”
They don't seem to know a whole lot about themselves. Do they?
“BP will fight tooth and nail against accusations that it was grossly negligent. If the charge stands, it faces fines of up to $21bn. BP wouldn't be able to pass off other costs, such as the clean-up and damages, to its partners. With investigations by the Department of Justice, among others, only just beginning, US lawyers say it will take years to decide who was to blame for the accident – and the full level of BP's liabilities.”
www.guardian.co.uk/business/2010/sep/06/bp-oil-spill-future
62 Zethee: “BP - A joint UK /US company, with amrican managment and american workers spills oil in the gulf.”
“US lawyers say it will take years to decide who was to blame for the accident”
Now now.. lets not get ahead of ourselves, you can't wash your hands yet.
What about the colonists? What will happen to them when their beloved island paradise is coated in a sea of crude petroleum? The fishing and seal and sea lion hunting that supports most of these 2,000 souls will be nothing more than a bitter memory. Such a small number of people can be pensioned off and flown back to Britain, leaving the islands and the mess along with them at the disposition of Argentina. Surely, BP will do that for them. It’s the least they can do.
kanan48.wordpress.com/2010/06/19/bp-and-falklands-oil-row/
It was actually an American company subcontracted by BP to run its rig, who disabled safety systems with the knowledge of the US regulatory authorities. Yeah, the legal actions are going to be interesting.
Suggest you do your research more thoroughly in future.
And they have a British passport, so what. They choose to retain a relationship with the UK.
Feel free to carry on with the bigoted rant.
19 NHS EBP yrs................... sounds like fun
Pull your head out of your arse please. Seal Hunting was banned in 1921. 3500 residents and climbing. Oh and stop posting the most ridiculous crap.
www.falklands.net/FalklandsCorruption.shtml
Beyond Petroleum. It's had many names over the years, from Anglo-Persian Oil Company, Anglo-Iranian Oil Company, British Petroleum Company, BP and now BP Amoco.
Also wash our hands? it's a private company, the blame and consequences will probably land on BP's head. It's a shame it happened but it's nothing to do with british people or government.
Let us pose some questions...........
1 - Did Bingham apply for the post that he was given?
2 - Did he provide any evidence of his qualifications?
3 - Why did he not produce “his” copy of his application form?
4 - Who, besides Bingham, might have written his application form?
5 - Why did Bingham promptly take up a post in Argentina?
6 - Is it possible that Bingham had previously been working in South America and his new job in Argentina was a reward/promotion?
Sorry but that isn't quite right, thats where his head is.
Just like everyone else does when they can't think of anymore words.
Compare also UK Safety Standards and US Safety Standards - you will likley find a few differences in them and the industry approach,
The Islands Govt is advised by UK and applies their standards in our zone. Over 3500 wells drilled around u=Uk - not one noticeable spill
Fernando- yes I told you what is written on the front of my passport -could you not read?
Bingham - long since dealt with by many others. The directorship of Falklands Concservation - Marco as already explained - there are NO Directors. Trustees yes, Lewis Clifton has not appeared on the list for some time. Get you facts up to date please!
Are we moaning about the gold deposits in Patagonia - of course not they are yours legally. Oil offshore here IF and I repeat IF there is any in commercial volume that is worth extracting - belongs to the Islands,Britain is very very clear on that . get used to the reality boys. If it is there - you get your share 0 pesos.
Yeah.. UK's standards, truly impressive, they work really well. When's the last time Argentina spilled oil all over the god damned place?
Your passport says United kingdom, you're English. We don't care about your stupid semantics they mean nothing to us, get it through your heads.
By the way.. Kingdom? If that's a Kingdom, then Argentina is what.. a GALAXY?? You've got some nerve calling yourselves a “kingdom”.. it's really laughable.
Ok, but do you know why?
”Mr Clifton, a Falklands resident, was the founding director of Desire, set up in 1996 to explore for oil and gas in the islands
The Speaker of the Falkland Islands’ legislative council has been fined by the Financial Services Authority (FSA) for insider dealing.
Mr Clifton, who resigned as a director of Desire yesterday(February 4, 2009)...
“As well as being the latest FSA scalp in its campaign against market abuse, Mr Clifton is the second man linked to the Falklands to be fined on insider-dealing charges”
business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/banking_and_finance/article5659182.ece
“All that's left of that marriage is the question of how to divide the spoils of power,” says Walger.“
”Walger's unflattering portrayal of Nestor Kirchner will thrill political opponents, who regard with horror his prospect of winning a second term in next year's elections. He is described in the book as “mean, petty, vengeful and envious”.
“One reason she goes on so many foreign trips, says Walger, is to scout for mansions for the couple's eventual retirement.”
“The Kirchners have certainly prospered. The 600% growth in their personal fortune, to almost 12 million USD, since 2003 has prompted allegations of corruption since their combined annual income as President and former president is only $157,000. Opposition leaders have accused the couple of using inside information to engage in currency speculation.
The Kirchners own a luxury hotel and other businesses in the Patagonian resort of El Calafate and, according to Walger, a former Peronist militant, they also have 19 houses and 14 flats.”
Oh what fun it is when the truth starts to come out
“No oil-drilling rigs are operating in Argentina’s own expansive waters, largely because many oil companies are wary of working in Argentina these days, analysts say. “There are very few companies exploring the Argentine sea,” he said. “There should be a lot more.” ”
www.nytimes.com/2010/02/26/world/americas/26argentina.html
There have been hardly any oil spills around the UK coast. Especially seeing as we have a very large oil industry, A few tankers have leaked.
“Your passport says United kingdom, you're English. We don't care about your stupid semantics they mean nothing to us, get it through your heads. ”
Oh look, you said something stupid again. A british person is not an english person, there are 18 different types of “British” people, from scottish british to British Anguian.
Also, A kingdom is just a state with a monarch as it's head, that is the definition of the word, why do we have a nerve calling ourselves something we are? We have a queen.
Top of the class! You have just insulted every Scots,Welsh and Northern Ireland person for starters by telling them they are English!!
Several thousand people live in your own country, many born there who also have UK passports - are they English as well!! Of course not they are Argentines - who happen to also hold a UK passport and British nationality - as do many Spanish/Italians etc.
What a chump!! Argentina a Galaxy you suggest - yes indeed there are times when it acts as if it is in the Galaxay of Fantasia.
Marco - see post 88 - you see we have this strange thing called democracy here and anything comes up and is found out(we are humans and not all infallible) - out the voters put you. Can you say the same for the massive wealth creation of your elite family since they came to power - let alone the money-in-the -suitcase episode?
Just out of curiousity I looked up the safety record of the Argentine oil industry and what do you know, it isn't that great:
www.ens-newswire.com/ens/jan2008/2008-01-02-03.html
A mystery oil spill, the first they knew about it was when the oil washed up on shore; didn't even know where it came from. You might like to compare this with the incidents in British waters where an emergency action plan swung into place immediately.
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/7437110.stm
Collision that threatened BA, funnily enough it was foreign registered vessels operating in Argentine waters.
So the answer to the question about the last time Argentina spulled oil; not that long ago.
In comparison, the British standards are much higher. Are we surprised?
Prince Charles embarks on lavish train trip to spread green message
“According to Buckingham Palace's own financial reports, the Royal Train costs approximately £500K a year to maintain before it even turns a wheel. An obscene extravagance.”
Bored on board?
The most eyebrow-raising entertainment option is Extreme Maniacs, cert 15, which appears to have come free with a copy of Bizarre – a gore and fetish sex magazine
www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/sep/06/prince-charles-green-train-campaign
“Neither he nor his advisers have a clue about green issues. This isn't quite so bad as him chartering a jumbo to take his staff to the US to receive a 'green' award like he did a few years age, but it shows the same lack of thinking or understanding what it means to adopt green attitudes.
I personally object to my tax being used in this wasteful and ostentatious way. Will someone please tell him that this is the 21st century and not the 19th, we have no need to be lectured about green issues by a clown who clearly doesn't understand them.
For me, this is yet another good reason to declare a Republic as soon as the Queen dies.”
I will add:
Will someone please tell him that this is the 21st century and not the 19th
, Malvinas is an old colony and 8000 miles from UK, and must be returned to Argentina.
Falkland Islands are British and will remain so until the Islanders say otherwise.
“Argies” must go back to Italy and Spain where they belong.
People in glass houses and all that.
And will someone nail Marco to a cross fitted with loudspeakers chanting “the Falklands aren't a colony ya dumb schmuck” till he gets it.
Anyone spot the usual dodging of the issue, tedious isn't it.
“People sometimes ask me why Argentinians make such an endless fuss about the islands they call Las Malvinas. The answer is simple. The Falklands belong to Argentina. They just happen to have been seized, occupied, populated and defended by Britain. Because Argentina's claim is perfectly valid, its dispute with Britain will never go away,”
Bit like marco the little dog humping your leg
Guardian The
Why?
What also does the rest of the free world not solidly support Argentina with SOLID actions over it? Note - I want to have the list of solid concrete actions - not just a bit of verbage in the OAS or Decolonisation Commitee etc.
Why has the UN not ordered Britain to leave and placed international sanctions on us ?
Twinky is clearly backward.
And gorge? gorge is just a dozy sh**e.
The UN has not supported either side, if we controlled the UN, they would side with us.
Your logic fails.
The Falkland Islands constitute one of the last remnants of British colonialism, part of a history of economic piracy stained with the blood of millions who suffered as a consequence. The sooner this history is brought to a close the better
Funny that you make such a song and dance over a few words from the Comittee of 24 -which has no power - yet when I suggest the real power - ”oh the UN is biased!!! I guess the independent IJC is as well - noticed that neither of you answered that one!
Argentine: “The UN supports us”
Briton: “It doesn't actually”
Argentine: The UN supports us, look at this press release from the UN C24“.
Briton: ”It doesn't actually, that is the press release reporting what Argentina claimed.“
Argentine: The UN supports us, look at these resolutions.”
Briton: “Err no again, those resolutions call for negotiations, which Britain did until 1982 and since then Argentina has shown no intention to negotiate merely to demand talks with its pre-determined outcome. Britain is only prepared to negotiate on behalf of the Falklanders. Oh and by the way, remember resolution 502”.
Argentine: “Cough, cough, the UN supports us, UN 1514 calls for decolonisation.”
Briton: “Yes it does but decolonisation is predicated on the self-determination rights of the inhabitants, imposing an alien Government and culture would be to create a colonial situation. Effectively the Falklands are decolonised, they have devolved Government and they prefer to retain the link with the UK. That they remain on the C24 list is down to the fact the C24 lost its way a long time ago and no longer fulfils its primary function of assisting the people of dependent territories. It is now a forum for countries like Argentina to grand stand their illogical irredentist claims whilst avoiding any body that can actually give a judgement. ”
Argentine: “The UN supports us, so there.”
Briton: “In which case, take it to the ICJ”
Argentine: “But the UN is biased, Britain has a veto”
Briton: “Err no, the veto only applies to the Security Council, not the General Assembly and at the ICJ no one has a veto. Oh and didn't you say the UN supports you”
Argentine: “Errr, errr, errr, errr, mumble, mumble, grumble, .... the dog ate my homework”
Then spam 10 year old Guardian articles ad infinitum to have the last word.
lol
”Although General Assembly resolutions are generally non-binding towards member states, internal resolutions may be binding on the operation of the General Assembly itself, for example with regard to budgetary and procedural matters.”
Erm, how unfortunate. Seems as though the only people who really matter at the UN are the 15 members of the Security Council.
The ICJ is independent of the security council and the permanent members do not have a veto.
Fernando,
Abba fan by any chance?
I suppose the irony of avoiding the issue to post nonsense to have the last word, whilst accusing others of having the last word, thereby having the last word passed you by.
I have an answer form you in teh articule of september first, the headline is, the us and the uk blast cristina etc etc, in spite that we never agree, unless with you i can debate.
I also love the way you bring up the Chagossians, yet what they experienced is EXACTLY what you suggest for the Falkland Islanders. You obviously have not thought it through very much (or at all). Prat!
About the ICJ, are you aware that The United States withdrew from compulsory jurisdiction in 1986, and so accepts the court's jurisdiction only on a case-to-case basis and Should a judge die in office, the practice has generally been to elect a judge of the same nationality to complete the term and Since the 1960s four of the five permanent members of the Security Council (France, Russia, the United Kingdom, and the United States) have always had a judge on the Court.
In any case involving the ICJ both sides have to agree the judges for the case and of course a British judge would not sit on a case involving the UK. What relevance the US has to the matter at hand is baffling me.
And again they're not your islands, imposition of Argentine rule would impose an alien Government and culture and to be frank no one believes that Argentina would treat the islanders with benevolence. You've spent the last century whipping up hate against them, so no one really believes that.
Nice try, coming out from a racist like you not even you mother will believe your statement.
28 JustinKuntz (#)
Sep 08th, 2010 - 03:27 pm
“ I've just reported Marco's spamming, I suggest others do the same”
Why? You are not enogh man to handle freedom of speech yourself. I see why Dr. Bingham had to escape to mainland Argentina.
As far as Margo is concerned, he should just be ignored. He is, after all, an ignoramus. How could anyone with anyone with anything between their ears suggest that the Falkland Islanders, a people with an indisputable right to self-determination and retention of their own country, could or should accept the sovereignty of a bunch of mongrel immigrants?
“In any case involving the ICJ both sides have to agree the judges for the case and of course a British judge would not sit on a case involving the UK. What relevance the US has to the matter at hand is baffling me.”
Justin, this isn't correct. Litigants don't get to choose the judges. What would happen is that since Argentina doesn't currently have a judge on the bench it can nominate a judge ad hoc to look out for its interests. This is what both Argentina and Uruguay did in the Botnia mill case. The judge ad hoc doesn't have to be from the litigant country. There can be 15 judges if the case is decided only by all the permanent members, fewer than 15 if any judge decides not to sit on a case, or more if any judge ad hoc is added to the 15 in a case.
Thank you for correcting me, I was under the impression that judges were one of the things that had to be agreed.
I already answered you comment in the articule of september first.
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