Brazil Re-evaluates Purchase of Warships and Aircraft
Brazilian President Dilma Rousseff is re-evaluating a six billion dollar plan to purchase eleven warships, as part of her plan to slash government spending, the Folha de Sao Pablo reported.
Rousseff is also looking in to the plan her predecessor and mentor Lula da Silva had to buy at least 36 fighter planes, because she is concerned that the expense would use up government funds, when money should be spent elsewhere.
The plan included the purchase of eleven patrol ships, to guard oil reserves off the coast of Brazil, some of which is less than 200 kilometres from the Brazilian coast in the Atlantic Ocean.
Potential supplies of the ships include British BAE, French DCNS and German Thyssenkrupp, said the newspaper.
The report in the Brazilian newspaper comes a week after Reuters said that Rousseff has decided to “begin again” her process of evaluating the multimillion contract for Air Force fighter aircraft, which involved the purchase of at least 36 aircraft.
The news is a harsh blow to French company Dassault Aviation, who up until last week, sources claimed, seemed to have beaten rival Boeing in bidding to supply the aircraft.
In 2009, Brazil and France signed an agreement in which the South American country agreed to purchase submarines and helicopters for over 12 billion dollars.
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The news is a harsh blow to French company Dassault Aviation, who up until last week, sources claimed, seemed to have beaten rival Boeing in bidding to supply the aircraft.
perhaps we will see who the Brazilians prefer, French German or British,
if they are short of money, then only the best will do, unless of course she decides to stick with what she has got and wait,
”A former Marxist guerrilla who was tortured by Brazil’s former military regime, it is ironic that Ms Rousseff now has power over the armed forces’ ability to purchase new toys.”
blogs.ft.com/beyond-brics/2011/01/25/dilma-takes-aim-at-defence-spending/
I would really hope Dilma reconsiders the whole ”defense toys” purchase strategy.
It is just too much against any imaginable regional enemy but too little against the big strategic players of the North.
A good idea, in my opinion, would be for Brazil to establish a whole new age of “State of the Art” missile and robotic technologies in cooperation with Venezuela and Argentina.
Argentina has the technicians.
Venezuela got the money.
Brazil;… the garotas :-)
As for the news, it is hard to know whether it is true or is an expression of the old habit of the Br media to invent news pieces out of thin air just to be proven wrong 5 hours later.
But we have some brains that could “Think”.............. if you keep tose garotas away ;-)
Venezuela got the money.
Brazil;… the garotas ...”
Does 'garotas' mean balls Think? Because the others on the list certainly have none!
kind of lip-service you offer the brits.
may I ask what lip service please ,
No twinkle head, Forget meant, your silly nation doesn't have the technicians as you try to claim that your nation has them, and has no military defense, because it cannot afford all those toys Brazil is thinking about buying. Admit, you hope they will cancel it, because it scares Argentina.
You say:
”Admit, hope they will cancel it, because it scares Argentina.”
I say:
Scares Argentina? Why?.... How?.....
As the balance of power is TODAY and in the foreseeable future, Brazil could invade and overtake Argentina in a matter of days,…………. if not hours……………
We could as well install an answering machine at our Defense Ministry.
If the Brazilians should call us to declare War, they would be greeted by a polite : “We Surrender”
How many minutes would you “Think” it would take Germany to invade your little Dutch polder?
You Tulip Bulb!
No idea what you're talking about!
Argentina couldn't kick its way out of a paper bag!!
en.mercopress.com/2011/01/19/letters-of-sympathy-to-flood-victims
175 Martin_Fierro
”I wonder if those deals made with the UK were indeed finalized, if not she may choose to cancel them like she did with the French and their Dassault Rafale. (worth looking into)”
I told you so ;-)
Your best comment ......ever!!!
***“What Argentine military? Argentina spends almost the least of any country in South America on its military, the only one which spends less is Surinam. Your problem is that everytime you build up your military, they take over!”***
As Supermac once said to some deranged pale settlers:
”The wind of change is blowing through this continent. Whether you like it or not, ……..
ARGENTINA HAS KICKED ITS WAY OUT OF THAT PUKE BAG!!!
And speaking about kicking…….. A bit of sports history: Argentina vs. British Pirates
Enjoy
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejTTJmJSHkk
It is only Argentina that allows Chavez to buy influence in Argentine affairs, because Argentina is corrupt and broke.
No, we'll just build stuff together...
www.upi.com/Business_News/Security-Industry/2010/11/02/Argentina-Brazil-to-build-cargo-plane/UPI-39931288741419/
www.auto-car-shop.com/14495/gaucho-a-joint-development-in-argentina-and-brazil/
www.brazzilmag.com/component/content/article/57/9145-first-latin-american-nuclear-submarine-to-be-built-by-brazil-and-argentina.html
Think - good for you ... so you feel confident about building up your military ??
And wind, Think .... repeats !
Venezuela got the money.
Brazil;… the garotas ...” (Think@ #5)
As they used to say in the old British sit-com “Veeery interesting - but Stupid!”
I take your point about the irony of Dilma's past and her present responsibilities, but the South American package you propose plays to national weaknesses rather than strengths. (or... maybe this is your 'cunning plan' ;-)
Seriously, I sincerely hope there is a big down-sizing of military hardware orders by Brasil. The last thing this continent needs is an arms race between the nations of SA or against the nations of the north.
We have seen how 'defence' expenditure removes the food from babies mouths. A big military establishment need not be a mark of 'manliness' or Development in this continent - the Chinese have shown us 'the new way' to win a place in the First World.
Down-play the military and up-play the infrastructure and education.
we can put some on our new carrier, [when they are built]
if we can wait ten years, the world will be our oyster ?
@GeoffWard: no nation in the world spends more in the defense area than the US. With the exceptions of Chile and Colombia, all other South American countries - including the much maligned Venezuela - spend less than 2% of GDP in the military. So go spread your paternalistic dovism elsewhere - up North perhaps, where a certain country is in serious danger of facing a sovereign debt crisis if it keeps spending in the military the way it does.
As for the build cargo plane, it will be designed by Embraer. The other countries that will take part in the program - Argentina, Chile, Colombia, and the Czech Republic - will only manufacture parts to be assembled by Embraer.
I guess you are young and South American.
You might have read about the Cold War between the US and the USSR. The 'game' was to out-spend the other on weapons. The USSR lost and lost its empire. There was much starvation out in the countryside.
I would not wish it to happen to you and your in whatever country you live in - national assets are small and there are already many, many poor to look after.
This is not an anti-war, 'dove' position; it is an anti-arms-spending position when it is, in my opinion, unnecessary.
If you can recoup the losses to the nation through corruption, and add the redistribution of excess military hardware expenditure, then any South American nation can do a lot for the development of its country and its people.
You are an ex-conscript to the Argentinian military who has an inferiority complex because you have *actually experienced* military inadequacy.
Even so, don't deny that military money can be better spent elsewhere.
And as for my 'American brethren' (sic), I did know one once, but as she was breathtakingly female she could certainly not be called a 'bretheren'!
Many countries showed interest in purchasing the plane, only Argentina is actually building parts for it. Unless I'm wrong, I'll have to look into it.
As for the sub you're probably right, but it does raise another point. Brazil doesn't have a nuclear program like Argentina does, no reactors that I'm aware of. Aside from a thousand other reasons to maintain cooperation, this would be a good one.
www.flightglobal.com/articles/2010/09/01/346892/colombia-formalises-embraer-kc-390-interest.html
As for the nuclear thing, Brazil has had the ability to make nuclear reactors since the late 80s (the first reactor built in here is called IPEN/MB-01). The reactors that will move the Scorpènes will be built by Brazil. For some reason, Argentines have always had the perception that that their nuclear program is the most advanced in Latin America, perhaps because it is the oldest one. There was certainly the case for some time, but I don't think this is so any longer, even though Argentina's nuclear industry remains very competitive (at least the Aussies are very approving of it).
Let’s stop Fooling Around and Spending so Much on Arms Says Uruguayan President Mujica. The President of Uruguay Jose Mujica, on Wednesday concluded a two-day visit to Peru aimed at deepening trade and political relations. His next official port of call is Venezuela.
Said Mujica. “Let’s stop fooling around and spending so much money on arms when we have to spend a lot of money on other things and we owe so much to poor people who have been forgotten and ignored.”
Wow, a South American President says REDUCE ARMS EXPENDITURE AND SPEND ON THE POOR.
*That’s just what I said before I was so rudely contradicted by a South American poster.
I 'Forget' who it was.
Anyway, this is an American official saying that he doesn't believe there's an arms race in South America; and he doesn't because military spending in the region is low:
en.mercopress.com/2010/08/26/mercosur-spends-less-that-2-of-gdp-in-defence-no-arms-race-in-the-region
BTW where are you from?
I know understand your “You are an ex-conscript to the Argentinian military who has an inferiority complex because you have *actually experienced* military inadequacy.” To Forgetit87.
Who is not Argentininean. Haha may be your are neighbours
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