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Chile with some of the worst social indicators among the 34 OECD members

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Chile has some of the worst social indicators of the 34 countries that make up the Paris based Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development, according to the latest releases from the group. Read full article

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  • ptolemy

    Would like to see this report on Argentina.

    Apr 13th, 2011 - 12:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Forgetit87

    That pic is from Brazil. Has Mercopress no shame?

    Apr 13th, 2011 - 12:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    JAJAJAJA, well Forgetit they didn't think anyone was going to find out.
    Like this European president today:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFoYkWulKOI

    Apr 13th, 2011 - 02:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Fido Dido

    That picture is made in Sao Paulo-SP. Anyway, the whole OECD is complete nonsense. Most (not all) nations in that “group” are bankrupt. Have you guys noticed that?

    Apr 13th, 2011 - 02:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Forgetit87

    Exactly, Fido. That pic is from Morumbi, a São Paulo neighborhood. I've seen it so many times on school textbooks when I was a kid.

    @Marcos

    A hilarious video. :)

    Apr 13th, 2011 - 08:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ManRod

    you will NEVER EVER find such an extreme example in Chile, like seen on this above picture of Sao Paulo.
    Inequality is high in Chile, no doubt, but it's NOT among the worst on the continent, even if many people spread the rumor. The right point is, that it's is Chiles biggest and last problem, because other areas are running very good. There is higher inequality in Brasil, Colombia, Paraguay, and Bolivia. Chilean inequality standards are almost same as in Argentina (1 point difference 52 vs 51). Furthermore, the reason why there is such an statistic is, there are overproportionally many rich people in Chile in comparison with other countries. Chile ranks 3rd in latinamerican transnational companies behind the biggest country Brasil and second one Mexico, but has only a very small own market. Having overproportionally many richt people manipulates the GINI index. The poorest people in Chile are among the “best” living ones, if you take the region as comparison.

    Apr 13th, 2011 - 11:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    I agree I have never visited anything as bad as depicted in that photograph. I have been generously invited into homes of disadvantaged people in a number of South American countrie and, so far, I would say they are generally better in Chile than other countries.

    That said, I think why Chile is highlighted is that the majority of the wealth is held by the very few in Chile. I have heard and read many times that Chile is 'not so much a country as a country club' and the founder members are reluctant to do anything to spread the wealth.

    The standard and cost of living is high in Chile compared to other SoAm countries. This is a country that has a stable economy and is being managed well so, in many ways, the unfair distrubution of wealth is less palatable.

    I do think Chile will eventually address this issue. Having interviewed some of the very wealthy, they make the right noises but seem reluctant to break ranks and actually do something about it. I think the heirs in waiting are more likely to adapt to change that will, in turn, benefit the whole country. JMO

    Apr 13th, 2011 - 05:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    “Having interviewed some of the very wealthy, they make the right noises but seem reluctant to break ranks and actually do something about it.”

    Young lady.................
    I like you better and better :-)

    Apr 13th, 2011 - 06:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Fido Dido

    “you will NEVER EVER find such an extreme example in Chile, like seen on this above picture of Sao Paulo.”

    Save yourself for that silly propaganda, because you do have extreme poverty in Chile , though it's lower than in Brazil (Duh, in numbers of people and in percentage because Chile has a smaller population). Actually Chile and Mexico don't qualify at all to be in the OECD, but it seems the group of neoliberals

    Chilean economy is stable, but but but is higly dependent on commodities (number one export is copper). it's manufacturing base? is close to zero and makes it vulnarble.

    This would be an apropriate picture.http://www.visionmundial.org/noticias.php?id_noticia=105&id_idioma=2
    but for some reason Mercopress puts an out dated picture from another developing nation. This is a normal tactic from northern countries, so I begin to wonder if the bloggers of Mercopress are really from Uruguay or not.

    Apr 13th, 2011 - 08:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ManRod

    @ Fido Dido, it's not about propaganda, you seem not to have understood or read my message properly. At no point I have said there is NO poverty in Chile, indeed there is still enough, unfortunately. The link you gave indicates a poverty rate of arround 13,x %. Which is among the lowest in Latinamerica, but still too high. By the way, I can see in your sentences and comparisons with Mexico and Brasil, that you have not understood the concepts of percentage and absolute values. The percentage is not conditioned to the size of the population! Simply indicating that Brasil has more poor “only” because they have more population is WRONG. Brasil has more poors in total AND a higher percentage of poverty. The percentage of poverty is the one that “counts”, and that one is definitely higher in brazil.

    Coming back to the main theme, the CRUCIAL point I outlined is simply the brazilian PICTURE above, insinuating to be in Chile. And I insist, in NO place in Chile you will see favelas edged to extremly high income boroughs like in this foto, its simply not feasible, the people would riot and not admit it. If you think this is not true, please show an example, where you see houses with exclusive pools and tennis courts just 1 meter from deepest poverty, you wont find it. I also can't imagine, how people in the big building can “enjoy” their wealth, every time they look out of the window, it looks so unreal.

    Apr 13th, 2011 - 11:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JulianCarryl

    The pic is indeed Chile and not of Brazil.

    Apr 13th, 2011 - 11:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Fido Dido

    ManRod,

    The link I posted here is pure because of the picture what would fit the title..extreme poverty in Chile.

    Indeed, the slums in Chile are far from the rich communities. But that's not what I typed about. Anyway, this is a South, Central and North American problem...only the slums in the US and Canada are pretty and subsidized..that's the only difference.

    Apr 14th, 2011 - 02:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • xbarilox

    “Chile with some of the worst social indicators among the 34 OECD members” but...but... but I thought that Chile was... wasn't Chile the example for Latinamerica?

    @ 7 Poor woman, she talks like she's Paris Hilton haha

    Apr 14th, 2011 - 10:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ManRod

    considering that the 34 OECD are the creme de la creme on this planet in human developpment index, Chile remains an example for Latinamerica.
    Even you dislike this, Xbarilox. Your mockery won't change this.

    Apr 15th, 2011 - 11:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    Chile is indeed “the good house in a bad neighbourhood” economically speaking. The main problem with being a devotee of the free market economy model is that it has no social conscience. A free market model when applied to social issues would leave the weaker and less able members of society behind.

    IMO Chile will address the social imbalance; eventually. Many Chileans have told me that there is a general reluctance to change and suspicion of rapid change.

    Apr 15th, 2011 - 12:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • nitrojuan

    Chile is a poor country, without commodities to offer, Argentina is a developed country if you compare other Latams countries,,, only compare the poor Punta Arenas with the developed Ushuaia (with industries, grow tourism, etc.)

    Apr 15th, 2011 - 03:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • xbarilox

    @ 14 “ManRod” no estarás exagerando che? I didn't write this article, do your crying silently, please.

    @ 15 Chile is there only because is a good servant. Stop making assumptions, lady.
    Elaine by ABBA
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIVniziQVts

    Apr 15th, 2011 - 05:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @17, Sir, I never click links posted on messageboards but I assume it is another childish personal insult. Do you feel threatened by me: a woman? You might be able to bully the women in your life/country but it will have no effect on me.

    Your comment about Chile makes no sense.

    Apr 15th, 2011 - 05:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ed

    You all speak a lot and vainly ..
    You can manipulate all things on paper ....
    ..always look at the streets like me ..if you have old vehicles at streets more ,then, you are poor country....the rests are blather .

    Apr 15th, 2011 - 09:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @19 That is an interesting comment you make.

    When I took a Chilean friend on a short trip to Argentina, the first thing he noticed was that in general the cars were older and less well maintained. Make of that what you will.

    Apr 15th, 2011 - 09:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Much depends on the taxation policies of the different governments on new cars sales.

    In Argentina, a new car costs nearly 30% more than its equivalent in Chile.
    In Uruguay, a new car costs nearly 100% more than its equivalent in Argentina.
    In Holland, a new car costs nearly 150% more than its equivalent in Great Britain.

    It’s not enough just to “see” things to understand them.
    You have to “think” about them too…………

    Apr 16th, 2011 - 12:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ManRod

    I only see alot of “pseudo” argumentation from our argentinian neighbours. We supposedly have no commodities to offer in comparison to “developped” Argentina? If Argentina is developped, why is Argentina not a member of the OECD, also called the club of developed nations of the world? If the cars “on the street” are supposedly to be a reflection of wealth, why do I felt like transported 10 years to the past, when I crossed the border to Argentina last time? If Argentina is so much more developped than “poor” Chile, why has Chile's Stock exchange a market capitalization of 341 billion USD (3rd in LA behind Brasil and Mexico, 2 infinitely bigger countries) , while Argentinas only has 63 billion? You can check this in the newest official FIAB report, page 3:

    http://www.fiabnet.org/inf_mensuales/IM-Dic2010.pdf

    Apr 17th, 2011 - 09:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • geo

    I am zero at Economy , but I can understand somethinks by my scanty brain... General taxation ability which always depends on payment abilities which called as income levels and their consuming adequacies +
    Everybody knows that in Argentina ,the tax evasion is second popular
    sport behind football = if you can't collect enough tax money then certainly you 'll sit on easy indirect sources like car selling taxings....etc.

    Apr 18th, 2011 - 03:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JP

    That pic is indeed from Sao Paulo. I easily found it via Google Maps: http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=-23.614363,-46.73061

    There are a few slums left in Santiago, but none are too extensive (some are just a handful of houses):

    1- http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=-23.614363,-46.73061
    2- http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=-23.614363,-46.73061
    3- http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=-23.614363,-46.73061
    4- http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=-23.614363,-46.73061
    5- http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=-23.614363,-46.73061
    6- http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=-23.614363,-46.73061
    7- http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=-23.614363,-46.73061
    8- http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=-23.614363,-46.73061
    9- http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=-23.614363,-46.73061
    10- http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=-23.614363,-46.73061

    Apr 19th, 2011 - 02:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ManRod

    JP, indeed these are still spots to improve within Santiago. But you surely noticed these are very few and small, for a city of over 6 million citizens. Its not a thing that is impossible to solve, if you consider that 15 years back there were REAL poblaciones (chilean word for slum) within the city. You can see that politics had the aim to find improvement of life for these people. All in one hand, if you would merge all these poblaciones, they would not suffice to build a traditional slum like seen on other places, not even the ones you STILL find even in really developped nations like South Corea.

    Check this in Seoul:
    http://seoulsouthkorea.jimdo.com/slums-shantytowns/

    Apr 19th, 2011 - 08:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0

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