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UK protests to Argentina the interception of Falklands licensed fishing vessels

The UK has protested to Argentina over its interception of Falkland Islands-licensed fishing boats, mainly Spanish in disputed South Atlantic waters and in the River Plate when they approach the port of Montevideo.

MLA Summers, “no doubt” about the Falklands’ right to issue fishing licences in its waters

Earlier in the week the Spanish government expressed ‘concern’ about what was happening to the Vigo-based Spanish fishing fleet in the South Atlantic and promised to collect the pertinent information to address the issue with Argentine authorities.

Last year, Argentina passed a decree (256) requiring ships sailing between the Falklands, South Georgia and South Sandwich Islands to obtain permission to pass through Argentine “jurisdictional waters” and has proceeded to intercept Falklands flagged or licensed vessels.

In a statement on Tuesday the Foreign Office said: “Although we are aware that Argentina has recently challenged vessels transiting between the Falklands and the port of Montevideo – purportedly under Argentine Decree 256, we are not aware of any vessel that has been fined or individual that arrested.

”The UK has protested to Argentina, and has firmly rejected Decree 256. We consider that it is not compliant with international law, including the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS).

“UNCLOS provides for ships of all States to enjoy the right of innocent passage through territorial seas. The UK is clear that no vessel needs to comply with Argentine Decree 256 when transiting Argentine waters. However, decision is ultimately a matter for ships’ owners” said the Foreign Office.

In the latest series of incidents Argentine patrol boats intercepted radio communications of Spanish fishing vessels operating with Falkland Islands licences and asked for information from the captain.

”On a number of occasions in recent months the Argentine Coast Guard and Navy have challenged boats travelling between the Falklands and the port of Montevideo in Uruguay“ said Member of the Falkland Islands Legislative Assembly, Mike Summers.

”They hail the boats and ask them for information such as the passport number of the captain, possibly trying to warn them off.” However interceptions had not led to a disruption of trade.

“The Falkland Islands Government has no doubt about its right to issue licences to foreign companies to fish in its waters” underlined MLA Summers.

The Galicia based association of fishing vessel, Aetinape, in a letter to the Spanish government complained of at least twelve incidents in the last few months and the fact that to avoid the Argentine harassment, fishing vessels heading to Montevideo to unload and replenish provisions and fuel are forced to long detours, costly in time and money.

Likewise some have complained that they were intercepted when approaching the port of Montevideo in the River Plate, which is shared by Argentina and Uruguay.

In reply to a similar letter, the Argentine embassy in Madrid admitted vessels were being intercepted and argued that this was because those Spanish vessels or with ‘Spanish capital’ were “illegally fishing” in Argentine waters, spelt out clearly by stating that “Malvinas, South Georgia and South Sandwich Islands and adjoining maritime spaces are integral part of Argentine territory”.

For Argentina the Spanish fishing vessels are committing a double offence, “illegally fishing in Argentine waters” (with the wrong licence issued by the Falklands government) and violating a “legal” blockade of sea channels to the Falklands.

As part of that ‘blockade’ policy President Cristina Fernandez addressing the UN General Assembly last September threatened to suspend the Falklands air link with Chile, set up in a deal between the UK and Argentina in 1999, unless Britain enters talks about the sovereignty of the Islands.

Last Saturday, CELAC, a newly formed block of South American and Caribbean countries in its final resolution, specifically backed Argentina’s claim to the Falklands/Malvinas Islands and called for UK/Argentina sovereignty talks.
 

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1 xbarilox (#) Dec 07th, 2011 - 02:40 am Report abuse
Last time I checked, the River Plate was not a British river, so what's the problem? When will you learn that this is South America, not Europe?

“innocent passage ” my *ss! That's not innocent passage, that's stealing other country's resources.
2 Kiwisarg (#) Dec 07th, 2011 - 02:42 am Report abuse
”The Aregntina has protested to Argentina, many times, I think more than 178 years for Malvinas Islands . Argentina consider that it is not compliant with international law, including the United Nations Convention...and bla,bla!!!It is a tipical country pirates!!! Why uk are selling fishs licenses to fish in our waters? why when there is a conflict with Argentina!!!
3 Redhoyt (#) Dec 07th, 2011 - 03:06 am Report abuse
Kiwi'sArse - Argentina complaining to Argentina may well have been happening for 178 years but it doesn't mean much.

Britain heard no protest between 1849 and 1888 and then nothing until the 1950's. Moaning to another country, or the Postal Union, or whoever doesn't count. Official protests to the country concerned do.

As for the River Plate belonging to South America, well half of it belongs to Uruguay and that was where the vessels were heading. Bugger all to do with Argentina.

But then Argentina has never been very good at following the rules that didn't suit it.
4 Kiwisarg (#) Dec 07th, 2011 - 03:51 am Report abuse
The “Malvinas Islands, South Georgia and South Sandwich Islands and adjoining maritime spaces are integral part of Argentine territory” The brits still selling fish licenses it is iligal,ok Rotten. It will be harder !!!
5 Malvinero1 (#) Dec 07th, 2011 - 04:06 am Report abuse
Britain heard no protest between 1849 and 1888 and then nothing until the 1950's. Moaning to another country, or the Postal Union, or whoever doesn't count. Official protests to the country concerned do.

pelotudoRED: No aquiescence from Argentina....
It can be argued that the conditions for acquisition of a title by prescription were not satisfied because of Argentina's continued protests at the British occupation from 1833 to the present day. Furthermore, in 1884 Argentina offered to take the case to arbitration. Britain refused. This further strengthens the case against a British title by prescription.

The one point in favour of the British case is the gap between 1849 and 1884. During those 35 years no protest occurred, but Argentina stressed that silence should not be taken to mean abandonment of the claim.

It is possible that thirty-five years is long enough to allow the conclusion that Argentina had acquiesced in British possession and therefore Britain had acquired the title by prescription. The length of time required for acquiescence has never been determined by a tribunal, but most writers on international law suggest that fifty years or more without interruption are required for the acquisition of title by prescription to occur.

In summary, the British claim to sovereignty over the Falklands on the basis of prescription is rather tenuous. It assumes first of all that prescription is recognized as a principle in international law, an issue which is far from settled. Even if it was recognized, it is unlikely Britain would be able to show that Argentina had acquiesced in its occupation of the Falklands and hence unlikely that Britain could have acquired the title by prescription.

www.malvinasonline.com.ar/index.php/derecho-internacional/articulos/57-the-british-resort-to-force.html
6 Pirat-Hunter (#) Dec 07th, 2011 - 04:51 am Report abuse
A pirat way of life is living of theft..
7 Beef (#) Dec 07th, 2011 - 07:19 am Report abuse
Argies - you know where they are. If you want them then come an get them.

Why are you not hassling those Korean jiggers heading to Brazil or those oil drilling supply ships?

This episode kind of shows how pathetic you really are. You are still unwilling to go down a legal or military route (your only two options). About time to grow a spine and do something that will achieve your apparent aims.
8 WestisBest (#) Dec 07th, 2011 - 07:22 am Report abuse
@4

I agree, it would be illegal for Britain to sell licences for those waters, the Falkland Islands can do though, it's legal and we'll continue to do so. British Overseas Territories are a a bugger aren't they?
;-p
9 xbarilox (#) Dec 07th, 2011 - 07:34 am Report abuse
@ 8 Nope, they're not because they don't exist here in South America and Argentina. That's why Mr Summers is lamenting over Argentina not letting them do their “innocent passage”. Remember the word ARGENTINA, and learn some Spanish :)
10 Pirat-Hunter (#) Dec 07th, 2011 - 07:45 am Report abuse
#4 I agree with you 100% on that.
11 Redhoyt (#) Dec 07th, 2011 - 07:54 am Report abuse
“ It can be argued that the conditions for acquisition of a title by prescription were not satisfied because of Argentina's continued protests at the British occupation from 1833 to the present day”

PROVE IT !

“ 1884 Argentina offered to take the case to arbitration. Britain ”

PROVE IT

You won't be able to, of course. The only discourse that could be interpreted as an invitation to arbitration was a response by Argentina to a British protest.

1885 – January 2nd, in a response to the British protest, Foreign Minister Ortiz suggests that, “ ... the postponed discussion be reopened again… and resolved by the friendly means and law that today civilized nations adopt to solve questions of this type .. ”

Not very clear. Now when, in 1955 WE invited Argentina to the ICJ we did it by placing the papers before the court. Easy to prove that !

The FIRST protest after 1849 was in 1888 -

1888 – January 20th, Foreign Minister Norberto Quirno Costa protests against Britain's possession of the Falkland Islands in a letter addressed to the British Minister, Francis Packenham, in Buenos Aires: “ The Argentine Government maintains its protest with respect to the illegitimate occupation of the Malvinas Islands ; it does not abandon, and never will abandon, its rights to these territories ; ”

A Permanent Court of Arbitration was founded in 1899 but Argentina didn't apply for the case to be taken there.

How about 1914 ??

December 23rd, British Ambassador, Sir Reginald Tower, has a conversation with Argentina's Foreign Minister, Jose Murature, in which the Argentine Minister comments that his country has not made any protest over the issue of the Falklands since 1888.“

Oh dear ... that doesn't help you, does it!

1933 - March 16th, the Argentine Government protest the issue of the Falklands stamps to the International Postal Union, stating that the stamps will not be recognised in Argentina”

THE POSTAL UNION ?? !!

Come on Marv - produce some EVIDENCE !

:-)
12 MichaelLocke (#) Dec 07th, 2011 - 08:19 am Report abuse
Argentina's colonial dreams are a relic of the 19th/early 20th century and should be abandoned immediately. The corrupt Peronists will continue to abuse their regional power until shown that this is unacceptable behaviour from a 'developed' country. Sanctions from the UN are in order.
13 lsolde (#) Dec 07th, 2011 - 08:25 am Report abuse
@11,
They can't & they won't. As simple as that.
They are just hoping that something, ANYTHING, will happen to make Britain say “ok lads, here are the lslands, help yourself”
Of course that isn't going to happen. Tough luck, amigos.
14 Yuleno (#) Dec 07th, 2011 - 08:31 am Report abuse
Judge redhoyt which court of law do you represent.china is increasing it navy because 70% of water is international with free unhindered passage which needs to defended.30% isn't international and some of it is Argentinian territory as is being proved.Unfortunately some countries disrespect other countries and UK is proving that.GUILTY judge redhoyt.give me some more of your observations.
15 xbarilox (#) Dec 07th, 2011 - 08:37 am Report abuse
@ 13 Isolde, didn't you read the article? It's already happening, that's why the British government is protesting. You just lay back and relax :)
16 Islander1 (#) Dec 07th, 2011 - 08:51 am Report abuse
Kiwi and Xbox - I agree with you - it really would be illegal for UK to issue fishing licences in the South Atlantic! Have they? - please tell me WHO have they issued them to?
You folks can NEVER can get facts correct can you!! I have never ever heard of UK issuing ANY fishing licences in the area - nor hydrocarbon licences either come to think of it!
Why is your Govt not taking the UK to the International Court? Seems the sensible thing to do to someone who you say is breaking International Law?
17 Redhoyt (#) Dec 07th, 2011 - 09:08 am Report abuse
Yuk eno - I represent the Court of Common Sense !
18 Pirat-Hunter (#) Dec 07th, 2011 - 09:32 am Report abuse
21 June 2011
General Assembly
GA/COL/3225
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Department of Public Information • News and Media Division • New York
Special Committee on Decolonization
6th & 7th Meetings (AM & PM)
Special Committee on Decolonization Adopts Draft on Falkland Islands (Malvinas),
Requesting Argentina, United Kingdom to Resume Talks as Soon as Possible
‘Committee of 24’ Also Forwards Three Traditional Texts in Support
Of Decolonization Declaration to General Assembly; Hears Petitioners from Guam
In a busy day that kept issues of territorial disputes at the forefront, the Special Committee on Decolonization today adopted a consensus resolution reiterating that the way to end the “special and particular” colonial situation in the Falkland Islands (Malvinas) was through the peaceful, negotiated settlement of the sovereignty dispute between Argentina and the United Kingdom.
www.un.org/News/Press/docs/2011/gacol3225.doc.htm
maybe the pirat summer didn't get his queen's memo, self determination is is possible in UK. Argentina has no rights to determine UK policy, neither does UK ilegal aliens in Agentina's sea. end the illegal occupation of Islas Malvinas Argentina, simple.
19 Dr Carrizal (#) Dec 07th, 2011 - 09:40 am Report abuse
@3 Kiwisarg may be a Kiwi's arse - at best, but who cares...
@2 If Argies are complaining to Argies, as you suggest, it doesn't surprise me that nobody is listening. Not that anybody else would either... Wake up to yourself, dickhead!
20 lsolde (#) Dec 07th, 2011 - 09:41 am Report abuse
@15 xbox,
l am always relaxed.But you still won't get OUR Falklands.
21 Billy Hayes (#) Dec 07th, 2011 - 09:54 am Report abuse
Spanish vessels should ask for a 50% discount in fishing licenses tariffs.

Poor guys, they are in the middle of a conflict and they are paying the cost, kelpers are nice people so they will give them a fine discount.
22 Pirat-Hunter (#) Dec 07th, 2011 - 10:02 am Report abuse
21 yea poor guys why don't the british pirats give them their money back or send them to fish in UK seas other then that I am sure UN will accomodate the fishing fleet in the gollan hights or maybe Gaza to help the jews build another group of social rejects and anarchists.
23 Teaboy2 (#) Dec 07th, 2011 - 11:03 am Report abuse
Or how about we send a few more navy ships down there and do what we are doing of the coast of somalia and escort the spanish vessel to protect their right to innocent passage through international waters and argentina territorial waters. By the way - Yes foreign military vessels are entitled to innocent passage at to escort civilian/commercial vessels during inncocent passage through a foreign countrys terrirtorial waters, its there in the UN convention on the law of the sea.

Would love to see what your muppet argentina navy and their rowing boats will do then. By the way their is no such thing as a legal blockade as all blockades that are not sanctioned by the UN are illegal and therefore an act of war. So do not be surprised if the UK turns round and calls upon the UN and its Nato Allies, whom are under treaty to defend Nato allies that are attacked by hostile countries (and the blockade is an attack on british sovereingty), and for britian and its allies to declare war on Argentina.

Jesus you dumbs idiots do not even realise your on the verge of war, and its your dumb arse governement that is pushing you towards war. We don't want war, but by god we will fight and put argentina back 100 years if war does happen. How does the sounds of bombs and missles expolding over argentine cities on a daily/nightly basis wiping out your countries infastructure, power grid, water supply, governemt buildings, manufacturing and industrial sectors sound. You guys do not even realise what the consquences you will face after we have kicked your arses will be, nor do you realise just how much and how long you will suffer long after the war is over. Hell if war is what you want, then rest assured, by the end of it britian and nato allies will be in full control of argentina, either that or we just bomb the crap out of you and leave you to be the next somalia. Then we can call you pirates then, oh how the tables will turn lol. You ignorant, blind and dumb argentine fools.
24 Redhoyt (#) Dec 07th, 2011 - 11:25 am Report abuse
Prat-Unter - the C24 is a sub-Committee of a Sub-committee - not worth the time to attend !
25 Pirat-Hunter (#) Dec 07th, 2011 - 12:20 pm Report abuse
#23 I think it's a great idea that UK will send ships to escort every dam fish they theft from Argentine waters, that way they spread the money more evenly among the working class, if that is the only way we can get UK to share the wealth be it, they can have it their way I support them and for the same reason I support a nuclear defence program for Argentina.
26 Islas Malvinas (#) Dec 07th, 2011 - 12:23 pm Report abuse
@5 Very interesting article...

“Despite Britain's military success, the Falklands/Malvinas dispute remains unresolved.”

It won´t be resolved as long as the UK keeps denying the conflict.
Believing they can put a full stop ´cos they won the war is stupid, like Ms Kirchner said.

Well, there´s clearly no stop anywhere... Stop being stupid!

And the conflict still persists not only because of argentinian´s stubborness and refusal to quit its legimtimate claims... The world is wants the dispute to be settled for once and for all.... the whole world except the pirat family (commonwealth).
27 malen (#) Dec 07th, 2011 - 12:24 pm Report abuse
what a loud out of place and provocative comments you make toy boy
blockade??' where?? show us how many cruises arrived last year, this year etc
show us the drilling platforms photos, how many or are they photoshop, unreal??
show us your 4x4 how do they get there?? and the menu of your hotels??
what blockade??
and nobody is provocating nothing, get facts....there is a decree, it is legal here. we dennounced you when making militar exercises without previous advice (and that was a very provocative action, dont you think?). do the same.
and why exagerating so much this of spain vessels, in 28 of nov there was published here the same report and nobody made so much noise.
are you needing a little of distraction in your mainland with the penguins........in Arg there is no much noise with this, no much no, nothing of noise, less with your prince, nobody cares.
28 Sir Rodderick Bodkin (#) Dec 07th, 2011 - 12:29 pm Report abuse
Sweet british and kelper tears.

Oh coffeeboy2 and his dreams of war. Yep, typical keyboard warrior and chav.
Deluded fools. HA!
29 Islas Malvinas (#) Dec 07th, 2011 - 12:38 pm Report abuse
I correct myself... not even the whole pirat family supports piratland...
30 JustinKuntz (#) Dec 07th, 2011 - 01:02 pm Report abuse
And the conflict still persists not only because of argentinian´s stubborness and refusal to quit its illegimtimate claims...take it to the ICJ
31 Teaboy2 (#) Dec 07th, 2011 - 01:09 pm Report abuse
@27 I fail to see how my comments are provokative at all. It is Argentina that is being provokative, and it is such provokation that will cause britain to send Navy ships to excort the fishing vessels, and probably result in spain sending their navy ships to also escort the vessals as a result of your argentina navy harassing them during innocent passage. I am simply point out to you dumb argentine idiots that your government is currently on a collision course that will lead to war.

As for the decree, well its illegal as you do not have recongnise sovereingty of the islands the UK does have recongnised sovereingty of the islands, all you have is a disputed claim over the islands nothing more, so the decree is illegal under international law and under the convention of the law of the sea.

As for the blockade, please stop being a dumb shit trying to insult our intelligence by denying the bloackade exists when your own government admits to it, though they wrongly call it a legal bloackade which it is not as it is not sanctioned by the UN. Don't believe me when i say your contry admit to it, will i suggest you read the article where it says ”For Argentina the Spanish fishing vessels are committing a double offence, “illegally fishing in Argentine waters” (with the wrong licence issued by the Falklands government) and violating a “legal” blockade of sea channels to the Falklands.”

And also read the other aritcle on here, where argentina confirms they are intercepting spanish fishing vessels - en.mercopress.com/2011/11/28/argentina-confirms-high-seas-boarding-of-spanish-fleet-fishing-in-falklands. You can not deny what your government has already admitted to you idiot.
32 malen (#) Dec 07th, 2011 - 01:29 pm Report abuse
you are going to war with yourselves, arg wont
you say you have sovereignity over the islands, but because YOU say it that doesnt mean it is real. it is in dispute at the UN.
what words uses the writer of the article, it is its problem, not mine.
arg intercepted spanish vessels to advise of the existance of the decree. and so?? they can pass, ask authorization next time.
we have peace in this region and excellent relations with other countries of the region. and will continue so, we dont need a conflict either want it.
33 Asdrúbal el Bello (#) Dec 07th, 2011 - 01:41 pm Report abuse
@31
Do you really think that Spain will send the Armada to protect vessels fishing with Malvinas flag?
Spain will send diplomats to London. They are cheaper.
34 Malvinero1 (#) Dec 07th, 2011 - 01:58 pm Report abuse
As for the blockade, please stop being a dumb shit trying to insult our intelligence by denying the bloackade exists when your own government admits to it, though they wrongly call it a legal bloackade which it is not as it is not sanctioned by the UN. Don't believe me when i say your contry admit to it, will i suggest you read the article where it says ”For Argentina the Spanish fishing vessels are committing a double offence, “illegally fishing in Argentine waters” (with the wrong licence issued by the Falklands government) and violating a “legal” blockade of sea channels to the Falklands.”

Hey mateboy2: Why do you care what Argentina does??
We did not break any rule......
You do not like it?//Well Argentina did not like it in 1833 and we were compaining since then.....
War????uk will loose it,almost did in 1982......
35 atk357 (#) Dec 07th, 2011 - 02:50 pm Report abuse
The blockade may look absurd, contrary to international economics, child like adventure....but it is actually working. Sadly enough, it is costing the fishing companies more money to operate (diverting), it is costing the UK more resources to support the Overseas Territories, it put pressure on the Falklands people....etc.
Well...my american fighting spirit tells me.....“if I were the Argentinean president”, I would have sent those oil rigs to the the bottom of the sea long time ago!
Fortunately, I am not!
”let the Falklands people live in peace!!!

Cheers!
36 Conqueror (#) Dec 07th, 2011 - 03:10 pm Report abuse
@32 I'd like to draw your attention to something.
www.un.org/en/decolonization/nonselfgovterritories.shtml

You will note that the document is published by the United Nations. The United Nations publishes a document showing that the UN recognises that the United Kingdom is the legal administration of the Falkland Islands.

There is NO dispute at the UN. If you think there is, it is because you don't understand how the world works.

Let's see if I can help you. I am sure that you have a list of UN resolutions relating to the Falkland Islands. So alongside that list write down who or what passed those resolutions.

Now here's the really good bit. You're going to love this. ALL resolutions of the United Nations General Assembly are non-binding. No UN member can be required to take action in response to a General Assembly resolution. If your list is complete it will include UN Security Council resolutions 502 and 505. Security Council resolutions ARE binding on UN members. And what action did your pitiful country take in response to resolution 502? The resolution called for an immediate cessation of hostilities and complete withdrawal of Argentine forces. It carried right on with its invasion and occupation.

So don't bother us by whittering about UN resolutions. You only notice the ones that suit you.

Argentina's territorial waters extend 12 nautical miles from the low-water baseline. It is a breach of international law to interfere with freedom of navigation beyond that point. So how many breaches of international law have you managed so far? Do what you like within those 12 nautical miles. Once outside that limit.......? Well, for the moment, you are only messing around with Spain. Wouldn't mess with a British or Falklands-flagged vessel. To do so would be an act of war. And you know that you're useless at that. Remember what three torpedos did to your tin can in '82? And here's a tip. Your frigates are smaller than ours. Frigates are the biggest you have!
37 ChrisR (#) Dec 07th, 2011 - 03:29 pm Report abuse
Well, all the Peronistas are out today.

You can always tell because of the hysteria, the tears of frustration and the length of the posts.

It is all so pathetic that Peronistas think they can force the UK people who have balls between their legs into being afraid of a bunch of wannabee eunuch gangsters.

32 malen (#) 'you are going to war with yourselves, arg wont'
You bet Argentina won't: they dare not because they will have their arses kicked again! This time however it will be for real and we won't stop in the Falklands (there are no Malvinas).
38 malen (#) Dec 07th, 2011 - 04:13 pm Report abuse
there are Malvinas
your own friend post it, little numbers of link of comment 36
www.un.org/ga/search/view_doc.asp?symbol=ST/CS/SER.A/42
www.un.org/News/Press/docs/2010/gacol3212.doc.htm
39 Zool (#) Dec 07th, 2011 - 04:45 pm Report abuse
War????uk will loose it,almost did in 1982......
In 1982 you attacked an Island of sheep farmers with 12000 men. What was the old saying from Galtieri “Once we are on the Islands they will never get us off” well even the U.S. Navy considered a successful counter-invasion by the British to be 'a military impossibility' given the size of the Argentine force, the defences they put in place & the hostile waters around the Islands.

Now its 2011 & it would be impossible for any invasion force to get near the islands. The Military base will know you are coming,your invasion force will get nailed by Subs, Ships, & Jets before it even gets to the Islands. The defense forces on the Island have more firepower than your entire military & can be reinforced with extra typhoons & troops within 24 hours. Do you really think Argentina who's forces have been seriously depleted over the years has any chance of even launching an invasion let alone a successful one.
40 xbarilox (#) Dec 07th, 2011 - 05:48 pm Report abuse
@ 39 Even if Argentina had what is needed to put the Biriths government in its place, we wouldn't invade the islands. Do I have to repeat it?
41 ElaineB (#) Dec 07th, 2011 - 06:00 pm Report abuse
I think it is evident by the tactics Argentina are using that they have no intentions of physically attacking the Falkland Islands.

The Peronist party was based on Mussolini's fascist model; Juan was a great admirer. Thus the current plan is “If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”

And it works very well on a lot of Argentines who believe the lies. Their problem is that is does not work well on the free-thinking, democratic governments they actually need to believe the lies.
42 M_of_FI (#) Dec 07th, 2011 - 06:04 pm Report abuse
@38 Malen.

I read one of your links and the Argentine representatives at the UN in 2010 called GUILLERMO RAIMUNDO CLIFTON said “In ”the current inhabitants [of the Falkland Islands] were “beneficiaries” of colonialism”. Didnt Argentina benefit from the European (most specifically Spanish) colonisation of South America? Umm....it most certainly did! It is truly laughable how twisted and hypocritical the Argentine arguement is. Its outrageous! And then add in the another one of Argentina's arguements over the Falklands that they “inherited” the Falklands from Spain. Spain! The colonisers of South America.

Oh the hypocrisy!
43 Islas Malvinas (#) Dec 07th, 2011 - 06:51 pm Report abuse
@41 Argentinians, Latinamerica, the US, 133 stated + China, etc... seem to believe in argentinian lies! What a stupid world is the one we live in!
44 ElaineB (#) Dec 07th, 2011 - 07:00 pm Report abuse
No, they don't believe the blatant lies. They tell the truculent Argentines something to make them go away. A platitude like, “Yes, there, there, run along and talk about it”. That's all. It means nothing.

Honestly, you should hear the jokes your neighbours make about you.
45 xbarilox (#) Dec 07th, 2011 - 07:38 pm Report abuse
truculent hahaha
46 Islas Malvinas (#) Dec 07th, 2011 - 07:56 pm Report abuse
@44 To make them go where exactly?

Not allowing ships enter Uruguayan and Brazilian ports is just like talking?

I´ve heared those jokes many times. Some are really funny. What do they have to do with this anyway?
47 Raul (#) Dec 07th, 2011 - 08:10 pm Report abuse
12 MichaelLocke
37 ChrisR
41 ElaineB

They have a total ignorance and lack of Peronism. We need to understand the principles of social justice, economic independence and political sovereignty. Read a little the following link and you will realize:

www.pj.org.ar/

36 Conqueror

Now here's the really good. You'll love this. All resolutions of the UN General Assembly are not binding.

You are profoundly mistaken. I read the same Link and the fact that is managed, does not mean that they are sovereign. It is more said in an asterisk refer to:
Falkland Islands (Malvinas) 4: 4. A dispute exists between the Governments of Argentina and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland concerning sovereignty over the Falkland Islands (Malvinas). (See ST/CS/SER.A/42)
Please do not confuse or (lie) about this. It is clear that decisions are made to meet them, especially decolonization committee of the UN.
Just observe the UN resolutions and the 2065 (XX) of 1965, ratified by later resolutions 1973 (3160) 1976 (31/49), 1982 (37 / 9), 1983 (38/12), 1984 (39 / 6), 1985 (40/21), 1986 (41/40), 1987 (42/19) and 1988 (43/25)

42 M_of_FI

Raimundi Guillermo said the strict truth. Please hypocrisy is the UK, by not complying with UN resolutions. Is your policy on 500 years of colonial history. Please take a few minutes to read these link-minded and mean:

www.cuestionmalvinas.com.ar

observatoriomalvinasunla.blogspot.com/
48 xbarilox (#) Dec 07th, 2011 - 08:22 pm Report abuse
@ 47 you again trying to subjugate people under your own point of view? The islands are British, and there's nothing CFK can about it.
49 Britishbulldog (#) Dec 07th, 2011 - 08:23 pm Report abuse
The answer is a simple one, we send down a couple of subs and a couple of Frigates and when the Argy pirates intercept any law abiding ships we blow the Argy f*****s out of the water, time to stop messing about and show this pirate nation called Argentina who is boss. They are getting to big for their boots so we must slap them down once more.
50 Islas Malvinas (#) Dec 07th, 2011 - 08:26 pm Report abuse
@49 Dare you...
51 Yuleno (#) Dec 07th, 2011 - 09:35 pm Report abuse
@ 39 Even if Argentina had what is needed to put the Biriths government in its place, we wouldn't invade the islands. Do I have to repeat it?
47 you again trying to subjugate people under your own point of view? The islands are British, and there's nothing CFK can about it.
What are you saying xbox.whatever you want.Troll? Oh yes,a troller
52 Marcos Alejandro (#) Dec 07th, 2011 - 10:04 pm Report abuse
“UK protests to Argentina the interception of illegal licensed fishing vessels”

UK who??
53 Papamoa (#) Dec 07th, 2011 - 10:48 pm Report abuse
argentina has a navy ????????????????????????????????
Long Live the Falklands
54 malen (#) Dec 07th, 2011 - 11:24 pm Report abuse
and no answer as I see..we are in a four long, fin de semana puente, holiday.....
55 Redhoyt (#) Dec 07th, 2011 - 11:29 pm Report abuse
Rolly - no good quoting long dead Resolutions. Try finding one that's alive - but you'll need a new one :-)
56 briton (#) Dec 08th, 2011 - 12:54 am Report abuse
UK who??
should that not be
DR WHO ?
57 Valle Ricardo (#) Dec 08th, 2011 - 02:33 am Report abuse
Marcos Alejandro (#) Dec 07th, 2011 -
“UK protests to Argentina the interception of illegal licensed fishing vessels”

UK who??

The UK (United Kingdom) created the largest and most succesful empire of all time. It's not covered in Argentine history books very well but you can find out more online. In Argentina the UK is called Reinos Unidos. They are one of the 5 permanant security council members of the UN.
58 Redhoyt (#) Dec 08th, 2011 - 02:53 am Report abuse
Who?

We are called many things - British, the United Kingdom, the English! Plus a lot more :-)

We have been around a long while too - so we've learnt a thing or two.

We even have a little history with Argentine - falklandstimeline.wordpress.com/

“ … a most unequal competition between a heavyweight diplomatic machine which had been playing power politics on the world stage for more than four centuries, and a foreign ministry that could just about manage relations with a few of its Latin American neighbours” The Falklands War 1982 Duncan Anderson 2002,
59 Pirat-Hunter (#) Dec 08th, 2011 - 06:49 am Report abuse
fakland ? licensed ? where ? what ? whom ? oh yes those papers are only good in UK, maybe it should be posted in EU newspapers to prevent any accident.
60 Redhoyt (#) Dec 08th, 2011 - 07:07 am Report abuse
You try operating in Falklnad waters without one Prat !
61 Pirat-Hunter (#) Dec 08th, 2011 - 11:37 am Report abuse
message to UK, file a complain take it to UN or Argentine embassy wait just over 100 years and maybe when we are about to go to war Argentina might just listen, look at the positive side there is always hope.
62 Redhoyt (#) Dec 08th, 2011 - 11:44 am Report abuse
Why do we have to complain - we have everything we wish :-)
63 briton (#) Dec 08th, 2011 - 02:29 pm Report abuse
61 Pirat-Hunter
Again you state the obvoise that we already know,
Argentina thinks she is above the law, and treats it like her bloggers, A joke,
you are showing the world how self deluded you are,
mmmmmmmmmmmmm
64 Marcos Alejandro (#) Dec 08th, 2011 - 04:53 pm Report abuse
57 Valle Ricardo UK who?? “you can find out more online”

You are right, plenty of disgraceful examples of British imperialism around the World, on line and history books.
65 Pirat-Hunter (#) Dec 08th, 2011 - 09:30 pm Report abuse
#62 I don't know why, but it's in the headline of this report you are currently blogging on.
#63 Argentina is not above the law, Argentina can only inforce laws withing Argentina and Islas Malvinas is still part of Argentina, it might even be in the constitution.
66 Domingo (#) Dec 08th, 2011 - 09:59 pm Report abuse
Argentina is in breach of its UN Charter obligations under articles 2, 73 and 74, UNGA resolution 1514(XV) and UNCLOS.

Shame on Argentina

What goes around, comes around
67 Pirat-Hunter (#) Dec 08th, 2011 - 11:19 pm Report abuse
#66 UN ?? UK doesn't really care much for what UN says why should Argentina ??? let me guess we are not pure white ??? is there any other reason ??
68 briton (#) Dec 09th, 2011 - 12:29 am Report abuse
A racest remark like that,
deserves only one answer,
[nothing]
69 Redhoyt (#) Dec 09th, 2011 - 02:15 am Report abuse
Couple of serious questions :-

1) Are Prat and Morecrap related - very closely; and living proof that incest is not a good idea?

2) Is it possible for two individuals to share the same brain cell or would MoreCrap and Prat have to have one each ?
70 Malvinero1 (#) Dec 09th, 2011 - 04:57 am Report abuse
) Are Prat and Morecrap related - very closely; and living proof that incest is not a good idea?

2) Is it possible for two individuals to share the same brain cell or would MoreCrap and Prat have to have one each ?
Mine are better.
What do you get between a breed of a chimp and an orangutan?
you get a pelotudored and a britton!
71 Redhoyt (#) Dec 09th, 2011 - 06:32 am Report abuse
I was actually beginning to wonder if you Marv, weren't in fact the progeny of the other two stooges !

And how have the Breton people of Brittany offended you ?
72 lsolde (#) Dec 09th, 2011 - 06:49 am Report abuse
Thats gone right over the idiot's head, Red.
l think Marvins an oxygen thief.
73 livin' in argentina (#) Dec 09th, 2011 - 12:54 pm Report abuse
70 Malvinero1 (#) Dec 09th, 2011 - 04:57 am Report abuse
) Are Prat and Morecrap related - very closely; and living proof that incest is not a good idea?

2) Is it possible for two individuals to share the same brain cell or would MoreCrap and Prat have to have one each ?
Mine are better.
What do you get between a breed of a chimp and an orangutan?
you get a pelotudored and a britton!

- A Pelotudered AND a Britton. wow that's hilarious. Was that in a cracker?

Did you know that if you get married in Argentina the law say's that you have to get a blood test first to make sure neither party have any illness's and also to prove that they are not related. I asked why and it was because of the high rate of siblings marrying each other.
74 Pirat-Hunter (#) Dec 09th, 2011 - 03:11 pm Report abuse
#68 as I expected no other reason, but don't feel bad there was no right answer to that.
#69 1) incest by nature would allows for a child to know who mom and dad is, unlike a poor SOB.
2) I think you just descrived how brain cells are distributed among homoignorant in UK.
#70 relax man ! you can say anything you want because that is freedom of speech but do not insult the chimp nor the orangutan.
#72 I doubt bery much you are capable of thinking by yourself.
#73 if you live in Argentina for what you tell us I am sure you must be in Malvinas Argentina breding with your mom, dad and syster but that was not Argentina's foult, an interesting fact about the illegal alien inbread in Malvinas Argentina is that after 100 years the population are all still 90% british with 10% penguin mix, fortunatelly for british inbreads the population is making a strong comaback while the pendguins are going extinct. now for the big question, is incest by any national as relevant to this report as british petroleum polluting the seas and killing the fish ?? I think UK should pick the log out of their own eye if they are to see the lint in Argentina's eye.
75 Teaboy2 (#) Dec 09th, 2011 - 06:24 pm Report abuse
Err Prat Face, they are still 90% british, probably because the the original population was 99% british and alot of brits have moved to the islands since then and some have actually married Foreign citizens that have chosen to stay in the falklands. 85-90% of argentinas population are spanish, does that mean your incestous inbreeders too?
76 Papamoa (#) Dec 09th, 2011 - 08:18 pm Report abuse
@74 Hi pie rat there is NO such place as the malvinas it is a fairy story made up to entertain argentine pre-school children, maybe you should stop reading such drivel and get yourself a job maybe a rent boy or toilet attendent!!!!!!
Long Live the Falklands.
77 briton (#) Dec 09th, 2011 - 09:13 pm Report abuse
to be counted, you must first exist,
malvinas, argie, atlantis , none exists,
its just an illusion,?
78 livin' in argentina (#) Dec 09th, 2011 - 10:06 pm Report abuse
74 Prick-Hunter (#)
FYI I live in Argentina. Not the Falklands. I have never visited the Islands but if the opportunity ever presents itself I would love to.

I am sorry to say that i come into contact with a lot of this inbreeding in Argentina. I have a friend who works in a Hogar for the children who are born with disabilities and/ or are simple discarded because of the shame. The state does not help at all and the Hogar relies on donations. donations that are very few and far between. The way a people treats their disabled is a good gage I think of the level of civilization. One bowl of rice for breakfast/lunch and dinner is all they get. The conditions are to be honest, squalid. Yet this is a good Hogar. It is run by the catholic church and they do as good a job as possible.

Now go away and have some solo fun with yourself as i'm sure your single from what you have said.
79 Malvinero1 (#) Dec 10th, 2011 - 04:23 am Report abuse
married Foreign citizens that have chosen to stay in the falklands. 85-90% of argentinas population are spanish, does that mean your incestous inbreeders too?
It is obvious that inteligence is not abundant of the brits in the forum.About 40% of Argentina's population are italian or italian descent.....
Buena suerte en el hogar living.At least Argentina is not foolish like the uk to dedicate billions of pounds to defence,while a lot of people are jobless in hte uk.Just look how many brits leave uk for good...
The government in Argentina is probably doing a lot in the Social work....
80 Teaboy2 (#) Dec 10th, 2011 - 04:40 am Report abuse
@79 if you could not see the hyperthetical question, then its you thats clearly lacking in intelligence oh and alot of the intalians in argentina are half spanish anyway, so i would not have been far out even if it was a factual question.

Now, any luck getting that nuclear reaction from pisiing in the wind yet malviner? Yeah i didn't think so.
81 stick up your junta (#) Dec 10th, 2011 - 03:13 pm Report abuse
The government in Argentina is probably doing a lot in the Social work....

And is probably letting others do their social work
SOS Children in Argentina

www.soschildrensvillages.org.uk/sponsor-a-child/americas/argentina
82 Redhoyt (#) Dec 11th, 2011 - 06:39 am Report abuse
No jobs ... starving bodies lying in the streets .... huge exodus from the UK ... France complaining about the illegal immigrants FROM Britain ...

Terrible !

Tell me Marv, what planet do you actually live on ??
83 Malvinero1 (#) Dec 11th, 2011 - 06:43 am Report abuse
Now, any luck getting that nuclear reaction from pisiing in the wind yet malviner? Yeah i didn't think so.
Who cares about you mateboy2 and prickred???
Toilet paper as more value than your words..
84 lsolde (#) Dec 11th, 2011 - 10:38 am Report abuse
@82Redhoyt,
Don't let him name a planet or Argentina will claim that too!
85 stick up your junta (#) Dec 11th, 2011 - 04:05 pm Report abuse
Toilet paper as more value than your words

Did the Argies use toilet paper when they took a shit in Stanley post office?
86 Redhoyt (#) Dec 12th, 2011 - 05:28 am Report abuse
You don't believe that the pen is mightier than the sword then Marv ?

:-)

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