“We must be politically persistent” on our Malvinas claim, says CFK spokesperson
As the UK applies pressure on Mercosur countries so they allow the entry to vessels flying the Malvinas flag, Argentine ruling Victory Front lawmaker Carlos Kunkel said on Wednesday that Argentina “must be politically persistent while maintaining a constant defence” on its claims over the sovereignty of the islands.
“England’s situation of aggression and piracy continues, but we must be politically persistent and while maintaining a constant defence,” he said.
“England has been attacking the countries surrounding the River Plate since the first British invasion in 1806. Then they seized the Malvinas and staged blockades and all kinds of aggressions throughout history,” the lawmaker accused.
He continued by saying that “England’s aggressions, targeted at seizing the earnings of hard-working Argentines, have been coherent and have shown and admirable persistence throughout the years.”
“We must be politically persistent and hope for the weakening of the British empire, a process already in motion as a consequence of the evolution of international relations and their internal struggles, prompted by Scotland and Wales’ desire to become independent and their protest against the British crown’s abuses,” he said.
Kunkel said he believes that the Argentine Government “must maintain a constant defence” on the islands, since “through perseverance, the rights of the American nations will be respected.
Kunkel is described as an “ultra-Kirchnerite” and has in the past made ‘unofficial’ announcements which with time proved correct such as when he anticipated CFK was a strong candidate to succeed her late husband and former president Nestor Kirchner.
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Nope, don't understand any of that.
What a strange parallell universe they live in.
Is the 'Victory Front' Something like the National Front in the UK?
Long Live the Falklands.
Come on Kippy get back to baking your cakes and leave the comments to the Big Men!!
Long Live the Falklands.
Are all Argentinians as stupid as their politicians?
l wonder if he means North lsland, NZ!
Herr Kunkel sounds like another stupid malvinista.
Hey, kunks, old chap. Soon we're going to be rich, but l suppose you are too if you're a Kirchener yes-man.
and when you are still sobbing over a minor diversionary attack in the height of the Napoleonic wars to divert Spanish troops from Europe, and trying to insist it is some event of gigantic significance is a fairly certain indicator that your country is deeply desperate for attention.
were these “aggressive blockades” before or after argentina started its total extermination of all native tribes, stealing their land and filling them with white settlers? or was it during your genocide of the black population by using them as cannon fodder in expansionist wars against your neighbours?
And just as if this hilarious propaganda was not blatant enough, argentina is now accusing us of causing all their economic problems.... somehow. I thought these freaks were bad when they decided we were to blame for the Falklands war by having the audacity to fight back but this must be the epitome of Argentine self righteousness, delusions, and sheer retardation
Aaaaaand in what is the crowning glory of this clown’s insanity, he has officially thrown argentina now and forever into the same category as Idi Amin’s Uganda, Hitler’s Germany, and Libya under Gaddafi in terms of batshit retarded propaganda brought on by sheer desperation.
In a frantic attempt to make his rapidly disintegrating country look important, he claims Argentina will fatally wound the British Empire (the EXACT same thing old Dada Amin said), and that Wales and Scotland will soon be breaking away (Scotland because apparently the 60-70% of Scots who consistently vote and poll for the Union have somehow disappeared and Wales because.....)
Congratulations Argentina. You have officially descended to the point of being beneath any contempt
you definitely earned it
Well put!
Now wait for the argentine bloggers to come up with some made up Bull about how hard done by they are!
Long Live the Falklands.
well thank ye Papamoa.
to be honest i am genuinely curious as to what they will come up with. I mean this material is orders of magnitude worse than the frikkin malvinesne in terms of bugfuck insanity (yes it is officially more insane than Britain covering up the loss of two more aircraft carriers and 2000 troops).
Either CFK's leash over her minions is so lax they can get away with literally ANYTHING while she recovers from her plastic surgIMEAN cancer surgery, or this is what she WANTS out there.
@lsolde
i forgot to thank you for your kind words regarding my schnapps fueled rantings on the other vid. your compliment was too kind :)
rest assured though the world saw fit to reward me with this hilarity. it truly is a good day when the mockery writes itself
I hate talking in generalisations obout an entire nation but I had to smile at this. Ask any Peruvian or Chilean working in Argentina, or having employed Argentines in or out of Argentina, and you will hear the same story. Argentines are lazy and do not want to work. They think it is beneath them. The only thing they work hard at is doing as little as possible whilst demanding higher pay.
As one example, I had a long conversation with a Chilean businessman who eventually closed his business in Argentina. He explained that he was tired of them using any excuse not to work and having to hand out bribes to local officials, police and a number of others on a weekly basis.
Just sayin'.
Well, yes, CFK told him what she was going to do, told HIM what to do, and he went out and did it!
Now Old Turkey Neck has been rattled by the comments from the UK govt and has told Klunker to go out and make up a few good comment like:
“England’s aggressions, targeted at seizing the earnings of hard-working Argentines, have been coherent and have shown and(sic) admirable persistence throughout the years.”
Excuse me? Doesn't this sound like praise for England? I think we should do more of it!
I think Klunker should have been the one in hospital, he is obviously insane or suffering from a brain tumour.
It is very easy to put these people in their place, especially Argentina.
Reality!, which is not going to go away, will soon silence the saber-rattlers.
The key word here folks is “rattle”, if you catch my drift.
The majority of Argentinians think tough talk trumps reality. it's a part of their childishness. Even Peron once called his own people “incorrigible.”
This is a country that has yet to develop a manufacturing base.
Why not?
1. they don't work well together.
2. not enough engineers.
3.not enough people speak English – which, like it or not, they desperately need. Because English, like it or not, is the language of science and business.
Business is all important today. But business is merely the economic arm of science.
Without advanced science, no business.
Argentina is not producing enough people to keep anything going in that respect.
Too many people “studying” psychology and journalism. Pfft.
Meanwhile, multinationals are investing in the country because it is undoubtedly a country of the future – But not for the majority of Argentinians.
Buenos Aires and La Plata for that matter will fast become multicultural havens for the world, like NYC or London or Paris or Rome. No question.
Argentinians can offer no resistence. BA and LP are broken down and derelict. The country is sunk in mindless corruption and unjustifiable complacency. They don’t notice it and think they are living in heaven on earth because they are comfortable swimming in their own s**t.
Even if Argentina got hold of the oil it would have to call in American and English business and science people to get it for them.
This part of the world has been mired in chaos, confusion, and corruption for 500 years and its recent “boom” comes entirely from foreign investment and lots and lots of propaganda, saber-RATTLEing.
Look past the propaganda and you can see for yourself the Reality – which is not going to go away – ever!
Yep.
The British Broadcasting Corporation (BBC)
“Britain's 'forgotten' invasion of Argentina”
“Did I hear that right? Apparently we are now marking the bicentennial of the Reconquest of Buenos Aires by Argentine forces from the British in 1806 and the Argentine ambassador to Britain Federico Mirre is hosting a memorial”
“A second, better-resourced invasion followed in May 1807, under Lieutenant-General John Whitelock, attacking Buenos Aires in July. After a couple of days of intense street fighting, the British surrendered to an army it had considered no more than a rabble.
After losing more than half his force, the British signed a ceasefire on 7 July and left for home, where Whitelock was court-martialled and discharged”
news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/4779479.stm
Something a bit more Up to Date
Argentine Surrender Falklands War 1982
www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhLzDC6bLPE
@ 23 Argentina didn't exist in 1806. What's the part you don't understand? They were in Spanish territory, not Argentine territory. Argentina did not defeat Britain simply because this was Spanish territory, not Argentine.
@16
Elaine, for a moment there I thought you were describing the US ..... :-)
I'm basically , stating a fact my friend Marquitos , y no seas tan celoso cabron !! :-))
Yep, you be persistent my friends, and keep talking,
There are men, and there are children,
You sadly fall into the later,
The world will ignore the children till they learn to grow up .
End of, full stop,
.
I am very good at SEX!
Do you want to try???
that is something a gentleman would never say about a lady,
but in your case, im off
bye
“blaming everybody else for their problems”
I don't know where you got this but well... it doesn't sound as serious enough to go deeper into that. But you can be sure Argentina has got involved into solving other countries problems lately:
- Conflicts between Venezuela, Colombia and Ecuador.
- Rescues of hostages that have been captured by FARC forces in Colombia.
- Coup D'etat attempt in Ecuador and also another one in Bolivia.
- Strong and explicit support on Palestine in order to be recognized as a state by the UN on 2011.
- And if you want to go back in time: giving a place for living in peace, far from wars and hunger to millions of european immigrants from 1880 till 1960 more or less. Including them as equals in society, with access to schools and universities, not using them as a 3rd class civilians like in England/Germany.
you just couldent get pass a few words, without anti british retoric,
yes your policy of getting as many white settlers to occupy lands freshly cleansed of all those troublesome natives (which they TOTALLY had coming for refusing to willingly give argentina their land and resources, and then politely disappear, so its a good thing argentina exterminated them)
and best of all as argentina had used nearly the entire black population as cannon fodder to either fight Spain or to steal land from your neighbors, these settlers would not have to be burdened with having to exist near non whites.
also the vast majority of settlers came from Spain/Italy. i dont know about Germany but in Britain even the poorest had better opportunities and freedoms than their counterparts in argentina
Lan stop in Comodoro because Argentina asked for it as part of the 1999 agreement. It isn't a 'technical stop' and only happens once a month.
You stop it if you want to. It's the only direct link to the Falkland Islands you have and the only way for families of the fallen of 1982 to visit their graves.
Argentina are not 'suddenly' the bad guy; you have been for many years. Only the degree of badness varies.
If you think that Falkland Islanders in general would accept any kind of Argentine citizenship you are out of your mind. After what you are doing to us now? You must be joking.
You obviously know nothing about the Falklands.
lt is NOT Argentine territory
You ARE the bad guy
We do NOT want anything to do with you,
So get lost.
Well I could mention the 60 years argentina has spent demanding that the islanders are subhuman without basic human rights within the land they have lived in for near 200 years, as well as ordering that all islanders who do not bow to total disenfranchisement and subjugation be forcibly removed from their land, which cases like the Balkans confirmed as constituting ethnic cleansing
I could mention the policy of economic terrorism aimed at destroying their livelihoods and making them suffer to bring about this eventuality
I could even mention the intention of Jorge Anaya’s explicit intention to ethnically cleanse the islands, which he would have succeeded in without a word of opposition from the entire argentine population had he managed to win
However I will say only this. Since argentina was born, it has held and continues to hold a glorified, if not deified view of it’s own exeptionalism, it’s importance, and it’s unquestionable divine mandate to act as it wished regardless of law, logic, and basic human decency.
The clearest way this was shown in argentine history was it’s treatment of peoples who interfered with government dogma by their very existence. For example, the natives, who lived in lands argentina saw as argentine by holy right and refused to be quietly forced out were wiped out in explicit campaigns of outright extermination, which are still celebrated in argentina on the money.
Were the islanders, whose very existence is the biggest factor thwarting argentina fulfilling it’s divine mission to take land it wants, to fall into argentine hands, your own history shows with sickening clarity what will eventually happen to the islanders should they not allow themselves to be ethnically cleansed.
And yes, by virtue of trying to subjugate thousands of innocents for reasons which are not only demonstrably fraudulent, but sickeningly hypocritical, argentina is and always will be the bad guy in this issue
you can certainly talk
no good, but certainly talk .
And tell me, what historical sources demonstrates
a) that vernet never asked Britain for permission despite ”Vernet to Aberdeen, “Dispatch 24”, in PRO FO 6 499, p. 4. Also quoted (in Spanish) in Caillet-Bois 1952, pp. 305” showing that he clearly did
b) spain bequeathing it's claim on the islands to argentina despite not even recognising argentina until years later
c) britain renouncing it's claim despite the fact that the treaty of Madrid specified neither Britain nor spain dropped their claims
d) argentina having sole and uncontested ownership in 1833 despite not having any legal claim
e) that the 1850 convention of settlement detailing argentina no longer claiming the islands somehow does not exist
because if argentina is unable to demonstrate each of these points with primary historical sources to the point of being utterly incontrovertible, argentina has zero rights whatsoever with regards to the Falklands
Also how is a population of islanders whose ancestors committed zero crimes against anyone to take residence in the land their descendants still inhabit centuries later, somehow in possession of LESS legal and moral rights than a population of argentines whose ancestors committed crimes of genocide and extermination coupled with land theft from native peoples, and whom on multiple occasions seized land from neighbouring nations without giving any of it back?
plus seeing as the UK has had to do precisely nothing and argentina’s blockade is already falling apart, plus the subject of this article, it is painfully clear who cannot handle this situation
And by your logic the islanders are too nice to allow any argentines to go near the Falklands, or even to allow the bodies of the argentine soldiers who fought to subjugate them to remain on the islands. They have every right to ban argentines entering, and to send the remains of the argentine soldiers back to argentina
Malvin70 is another Malvinist who doesn't live in Argentina! Why is this not a surprise? None of the Malvinists live in Argentina :P
Stay in The Netherlands, Anglo-Argie freak, you don't have a clue what you're talking about, don't mess around.
“The UN has never said anything about the UK giving the islands to Argentina. Why not? Well, simply because the islands don't belong to Argentina.”
Do you believe your lies? Really? If the UN didn´t believe that Argentina has something to claim, then why would it be constantly asking the UK to sit and solve the situation? The UN believes there´s something to talk about, and that´s sovereignty.
If the islanders want to talk or not, is not relevant. The UN is requesting both parties , the UK and Argentina.
You are in Argentina, get over it.
Go play the xbox.
1. I never called you a traitor
2. If I decided to leave my country is because I didn't want to put up with our polititians, nothing to do with the country.
3. As far as me staying where I am at , I don't need anybody's permission
Are we cool ? :-)
The world is saying: UK give up with your colonial empire in South America, give the islands back! :)
The world is a big place and hardly anyone knows about, nevermind cares about, Argentina.
The UN does not demand the UK or then FIG (there are no Malvinas) sit down and talk. Not in the real sense, where it can be enforced.
Again, if Argentina are so confident of their case, go to the ICJ.
It is that simple: really.
Yawn. Broken record or what. I somehow think that the Islanders will not have too much trouble getting over the fact that you think they live in Argentina. Tell me, how is the weather today in Cloud Cuckoo Land?
“If the islanders want to talk or not, is not relevant.”
That is the point at which your understanding of the real issue fails you,
and your argument becomes morally bankrupt.
”The UN does not demand the UK or then FIG (there are no Malvinas) sit down and talk. Not in the real sense, where it can be enforced.“ Yes it does demand so. It cannot be ”enforced”... gues why? Imaging who´s holding a permanent sit of the Security Counsil? Oh! That´s democratic!
We won´t take it to the ICJ if the UK doesn´t accept decisions that take into account actions of the XIX century.
@59 As per Latinamerica, and many others around the world, MAlvinas is Argentina. Keep yawning...
@60 My undestanding doesn´t fail. Just stop a minute and think of the UN position. It never suggests that the islanders have to decide anything. It is Arg and the UK that have to do so. You can have you opinion represented by the UK, of course -and that will be so only if it meets with the UKs interests-.
@ 57 Next week I'll be in Uruguay, taking my well deserved vacation, family and friends, football, cars, sea, beach, music, girls, food, horses, beer, sun, sleeping, grabbing and scratching my sack all day as if there are no worries in this life anymore. When I comeback you'll still be right there where you are,moaning and crying about how rude and cruel the UK is. Boring.
This means that the Islander have the right to decide if there is anything to be discussed with argentina in respect to sovernity.
It cannot be approached as a bilateral issue, not possible under the UN charter.
The islanders don't just have a say, they decide what happens.
@63 All lies.
So as far as argentina is concerned:
Rights of the islanders - lies
British history of the region - lies
These are the two relevant points as far as the British are concerned.
Exactly what is there to talk about.
See no sense, hear no truths, and speak to insult,
You just cant talk, to the untellable
who wont listen.
just pretend to agree with them,
I think 67s on the wrong blog, his espanol makes no sense at all to this one: but hay, why am I not suprised?
pity he never went to . lol
AHAHAHAH!! what a vulgar guy,this lordy!!
Go back to the police,where you belong!
No brains.cheap policeman!
Police don't come cheap in Britain.
I understand things may be different there.
in the end they will always agree,
do they not .
posting comments they just fill the blogs with mindless diahoria
all they do is complain like a bunch of old farts go and join a retirement
villages so sad boring bunch of Britts.
I await another rant about a totally unrelated subject...
Lets all go to and settle this in court put the facts to the UN...
Is that Britt Elkland
The only boring old fart is the drilling machine,
And yes it make a noise,
But to be fair, all the complaining is drifting in from Argentina, is it not, the brits only respond
To the indoctrinated comments,
Such a shame then, that a once great country, is being brought to its knees, by the government, and its loyal bloggers,
And who is looking after the Tigers whilst your on here …
.
I know what, I'll complain about some of the things that other countries did to us over 100 years ago.
Like the French. They blockaded us with the continental system during the Napoleonic wars - we should call President Sarkozy rude names, call his country a basket case in terminal decline then blockade corsica.
Or perhaps we should cause Russia some hassle - lets arm the chechens and start a run on their banks. That'll teach them for firing on the dogger bank fishing boats in 1905......
The man is an idiot. You could lay the blame for anything wrong with your country by going back far enough in history.
What did the Romans do for us..................(cue monty python)
Your country England should be the last one on earth to talk about Morality,
Yes Argentina unfortunatly had systematicaly wiped out a large part of its native population and Argentines are aware and lament the atrocity of that event centuries ago,
But what about America's native population which was nearly exterminated by the english colonialists and how Brittain supported illegal regimes and militias around the world from Africa, to Asia to the Middle East making dodgy deals in the sake of getting their greedy hands on oil and resources at the expense of innocent people living in those regions not
to mention the number of innocent children being bombed daily by
Britt Bomber aircraft wake up your country has plenty of humanitarian work to do!
Argentina dosen't “lament” the killing of the native population at all.
What a liar. !!!! Some Argentine on here said that the natives in Patagonia “deserved” it because they were from Chile.
And it wasn't centuries ago. Try 130 years, pussycat.
Your “hero” who ordered the killings is commemorated on your banknotes.!!!
You not only cannot tell the truth, l doubt that you could lie straight in bed. Hypocrites all.
otherwise its open to speculation
is it not .
I am glad that Saddam Hussein is gone, he was a criminal who started 2 major wars and tried to exterminate the marsh arabs and kurds. We did'nt decide to attack him for no reason, he should have been finished off in 1991. Remember Halabja?
I am glad that we helped remove the Taliban and agreed to help to fight Al-Qaeda in Afghanistan. They are murdering thugs who bomb night clubs in places like Bali, behead aid workers, try to shoot down airliners with SAMs and crash others into skyscrapers full of people. We did'nt start it - 911 was an act of war against the USA that killed 67 british citizens. If they dis'nt want to fight a war against us they should have left us alone.
We aren't living in 1912, it's 2012. Deal with the present. You can name call at us as long as you like, you're the ones trying to carry out an eviction campaign right now.
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