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Piñera and Mujica committed to expand their countries Antarctic efforts
Uruguayan president Jose Mujica and his host and peer Sebastián Piñera said they are committed to expand and intensify the presence of their countries in Antarctica which they described as a “continent of peace and of the future”. Read full article
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Jan 14th, 2012 - 12:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0is upping the anti,
and this will backfire .
AHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! britton.uk is OUT of the PIcture....SA wants theirs resources for them....not uk or Spain.....uk is FINISHED!!
Jan 14th, 2012 - 01:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0uk is OUT of the PIcture!
Jan 14th, 2012 - 02:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Over 50% of the antartic population is British, bigger presence there than anybody else.
”marking sovereignty in this continent, as must be for countries such as Chile and Uruguay that have a deep Antarctic calling”.
This is the revelant comment, and the excuse for claiming what has always been British territory.
Between Chile and the Falklands argentina is cut off from the antartic,
part of the reason for argentinas vehermence now over the Falkland.
Look at the Artic devision, Norway in, Sweden out, Denmark in because of Greenland. This is what is worrying the argentinian political class.
LAN, and therefore also TAM, (CH & BR), cut out of BA airport: 1 - 0
Jan 14th, 2012 - 04:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Chile and Uruguay cut Argentina out of Antarctica: 1 - 1
Score at half time: 1 - 1
Pugol-H,
Jan 14th, 2012 - 05:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I must say I am forced to place in serious question both your logic and your facts in your last comment.
First, your “statistic” that 50% of the population of Antarctica is British is politely risible. I immediately saw it and pounced as I know (from many independent sources), that it is at best a figment of your imagination (even without any information at and, just given the number of countries present it is possible for even the most uninformed of readers to surmise that no one nation could account for 50% of denizens there), or it was a patently temerarious comment. :)
Statistics not out of the INDEC, not a link out of some votary pro-British or Argentine website, or any epigones of such. From the “neutral” US census bureau (hardly a friend of Argentina's, and the U.K.'s closest ally):
http://www.indexmundi.com/antarctica/population.html
Second, Argentina is neither cut out nor truncated geographically from Antarctica. The dividing boundary between Chile and Argentina is not a horizontal line extending west-east (as some may assume because Chile seems to “wrap around” at the southernmost tip), but in fact north-south just east of Cape Horn. This implies (or signifies), that the southern half of the Drake Passage coast of Tierra del Fuego and Los Estados Island are Argentine waters as they are east of Cape Horn, and these coasts are completely unobstructed by any other political entity, all the way to the Antarctic Peninsula. In other words, the geographic example of Sweden is innaplicable.
To perorate my answer, Argentina is not cut out from anything. In fact it has a very strong position, as do others. The fact that many here try to minimize anything related to Argentina (in any category: economic, social, cultural, educational, geographic), is not due to any facts but simple tendendiousness given the type of people and opinions this website tends to attract.
That anti Argentina stance you refer to 5# is endemic as you say.What is interesting in the case of the Antarctic is,once again,because of it's economic value,how states line up to colonise the territory for themselves.The responsibility for it's environmental degradation is absent as far as I can see.
Jan 14th, 2012 - 06:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Colonisation mentality lives
BRITISH Antarctica was claimed 32 years before Chile. But Chile won't lose much. It was also claimed 34 years before Argentina woke up. Argieland will lose the lot. Although we might let the perverts have the “station” we gave them in the first place.
Jan 14th, 2012 - 06:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0BRITISH Antarctica was claimed 32 years before Chile. But Chile won't lose much. It was also claimed 34 years before Argentina woke up. Argieland will lose the lot. Although we might let the perverts have the “station” we gave them in the first place
Jan 14th, 2012 - 06:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Look ignorant: Argentina HAS THE OLDEST BASE IN ANTARTICA,1904!!
Argentina has maintained a permanent occupation for more than a century, and controls the oldest base in Antarctica (Orcadas Station on Laurie Island).
The first Antarctican was born in Esperanza Base (Hope Base), namely Emilio Palma.
Argentina has sent more people to Antarctica than all the other countries together
I do not mind if you do not like Argentina(I do not like uk) so it fine with me.But reality and facts are there.....
What a crap the brits in this forum!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argentine_Antarctica
@5 tobias
Jan 14th, 2012 - 07:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0OK I admit you have to add in the population of the Falklands to get to a figure like that, but no more ridiculus than “uk is OUT of the PIcture”
@8 Malvinero1
HAS THE OLDEST BASE IN ANTARTICA,1904.
Yes, on territory claimed by the british in1843.
Argentina may have open territory facing the antarctic, so does Britain.
The British claimed there territory in the antarctic when the United Provences extended approx 150 miles south of ba.
In that part of the world argentina and chile are comparatively new arrivals.
9 The British claim this, the British claim that...hell no, your empire(once upon a time) stole everything by brute force no rights.
Jan 14th, 2012 - 07:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Stay in the Northen hemisphere where you all belong.
OK I admit you have to add in the population of the Falklands to get to a figure like that, but no more ridiculus than “uk is OUT of the PIcture”
Jan 14th, 2012 - 07:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So Argentina can had Tierra del fuego(130000 ha.),is closer to Antartica than MAlvinas......
So you think that uk is IN THE PICTURE??
Well think again.
Debt external:
1 European Union $ 16,080,000,000,000 30 June 2011
2 United States $ 14,710,000,000,000 30 June 2011
3 United Kingdom $ 9,836,000,000,000 30 June 2011
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2079rank.html?countryName=United Kingdom&countryCode=uk®ionCode=eur&rank=3#uk
Good show,pugol...
“Stay in the Northen hemisphere where you all belong”
Jan 14th, 2012 - 07:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No doubt what the native americans think about you.
The British claimed their territory in the antarctic when the United Provences extended approx 150 miles south of ba.
In that part of the world argentina and chile are comparatively new arrivals.
when the British arrived in the Antarctic it was uninhabited, unexplored and unclaimed.
Not so Argentina
No doubt what the native americans think about you.
Jan 14th, 2012 - 09:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The British claimed their territory in the antarctic when the United Provences extended approx 150 miles south of ba.
Sure pugol,but who lives in the area?/ The brits or Argentinians????
Argentina has The most bases,the oldest and the most people.This is for us,not for you!!
Do you want another figth???
All you will end up doing
Jan 15th, 2012 - 12:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0is upping the anti,
and this will backfire ..
Argentina may have open territory facing the antarctic, so does Britain.
Jan 15th, 2012 - 01:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0The British claimed there territory in the antarctic when the United Provences extended approx 150 miles south of ba.
In that part of the world argentina and chile are comparatively new arrivals.
Unfortunately for you,Spain claimed Antartica much earlier than uk..There are maps,dated from 1530,that shows Antartica.....
Argentina,has the Sucessor from Spain,inherithed the territories.....
Plus Argentina has FAR MORE INHABITANTS CLOSER TO ANTARTICA....So bye bye uk....It is South American times.....
Argentina,has the Sucessor from Spain,inherithed the territories
Jan 15th, 2012 - 01:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0as spain was sucessor of roman teritory,
does argentina thus claim amonged others
great britain .
rofl
Jan 15th, 2012 - 11:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0@15 You poor little delusional twerp. The “maps”, if they exist and who would believe a South American, are of a place called Terra Australis Incognita (Unknown Southern Land). There have been NO Spanish claims to Antarctica. PROVE I'm wrong!
Jan 15th, 2012 - 03:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Now get ready to stretch whatever you have between your ears. I know it's not a brain! And read this. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_National_Antarctic_Expedition
Be sure to read the whole thing now. Or do you need help with the longer words? You will see that the first permanent base was British (Scottish). It was called “Omond House”. Established in 1903. It was actually formally “given” to the Argentine government in January 1904, together with its furnishing, provisions and magnetic and meteorological instruments.
You see, you bunch of losers can't do anything difficult for yourselves. You have to wait until someone gives it to you.
And here's the really good bit. Even after being GIVEN a base, you made no claim until 1942. Briton, being far more intelligent, made its properly legal claim in 1908.
Fortunately, for you, current claims are not being advanced whilst the Antarctic Treaty is in force. Because shortly after that Treaty becomes ineffective, you will have NO bases in Antarctica. All of the current ones having mysteriously disappeared, together with their equipment and personnel, under the ice. One of the benefits of being a nation with submarines with sails (conning towers) specially designed and strengthened to break through the ice. But why would they? Just locate the argie bases from under the ice and fire torpedos until the ice gives way!
if we are correct, the treaty may well be extended,
Jan 15th, 2012 - 07:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0for their may be sharks circling, and awaiting to bite,
facts about debts previous postings. At least we publish ours!! what was your recent inflation rates, that shows a healthy economy. Defaulting to the IMF also a sign of a rich and powerful country ...get a grip
Jan 15th, 2012 - 08:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0facts about debts previous postings. At least we publish ours!! what was your recent inflation rates, that shows a healthy economy. Defaulting to the IMF also a sign of a rich and powerful country ...get a grip
Jan 15th, 2012 - 08:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Get real.A debt 0f 130 billions dollar,and the 8th largest country,with inmense natural resources. and human resources....Well,do the math...not much to talk...
the 8th largest country, with immense, natural resources.
Jan 15th, 2012 - 08:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And human resources....
And lead by an obsessed deluded stalking Barbie doll.
Trying to play Action man.
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