MercoPress, en Español

Montevideo, March 28th 2024 - 19:29 UTC

 

 

Brazil reiterates support for Argentina, denies any blockade to the Falklands

Wednesday, February 1st 2012 - 07:14 UTC
Full article 57 comments

Brazil reiterated its support for Argentina’s Malvinas Islands sovereignty claim and insisted that solving the controversy with the UK is ‘most important’ for South America’s stability. It also pointed out that it’s not correct to talk about “a blockade”. Read full article

Comments

Disclaimer & comment rules
  • dreyfoss

    Britain is heading down a road that will end in a serious confrontation with the whole of South America.
    Absolute insanity.

    Feb 01st, 2012 - 07:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Braedon

    @1

    And once again your delusions of importance and power shine through again dreyfoss.

    Do you really think any nation in south america gives a damn about your fantasies of “lebensraum”? do you honestly think that they care what some deluded, crumbling, and soon to be dictatorship wants?

    they give non committal, disinterested support for your claim at best to enable argentina to comply with their demands, and at worst to ensure they can get massively disproportionate favors from you in return for mere “verbal” backup. This is why for all their faint words of support, there has been zero meaningful action taken to help you.

    argentina should really stop assuming the rest of the world shares argentina's delusions of it's own power, popularity and prestige, as such deluded self importance merely leads to inevitable collapse

    Feb 01st, 2012 - 07:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • O gara

    Davidito is seen as a man of steadfastness.He vetoes an EU agreement in december only to happily allow 25 of the 27 to forge ahead in january.Cristina will take note this little man will talk when the.pressure gets hot enough.With recession already biting debt rising at formula 1 speeds it wont be long

    Feb 01st, 2012 - 08:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Teaboy2

    @o'gara - The veto never did stop the rest from going ahead you dumb irishman wannabe. All the veto did was prevent the UK from being drawn into or being part of such new agreement, which also means we are not obliged to follow the economic and finanical measures that the rest will have too, nor will we face being fined for failure to follow such measures. Not to mention the fact the Eurozone will never have control of our finicial sector either, much to their distaste.

    Feb 01st, 2012 - 09:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • johnfarrel2050

    As in a lot of cases, sooner or later the truth prevails, the truth can´t be hide for ever, UK must to know that the military power is not enough to hide the truth, in this case it´s absolutely clear that the Malvinas Islands belong to Argentina, just only, take a world map and look at it. Nothing more...

    Feb 01st, 2012 - 11:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • catagom

    Braedon: Great response to Dreyfus.

    I spent a decade in South America, mainly Argentina.
    They are constitutionally incapable of admitting when they are wrong.
    And they have no problem lying, because they have no conscience.
    They also have a hard time internalizing rules, norms, and moral codes.

    Let's see, can't internalize rules, and have no conscience.
    Hmmm, isn't that the definition of a psychopath?
    In fact, yes, it is.
    And make no mistake about it, in terms of the whole region we are talking about a culture of psychopathology.
    And culturally speaking, South America in general does not like Argentina.

    Argentina has one arm extended anxiously toward Europe, the other arrogantly pushing away the rest of South America while sticking out it's tongue to the U.S.A.

    The adjectives I would use to describe the people: immature, selfish, dishonest, chaotic, confused, corrupt, and grandiose.
    They are not worth taking seriously at all.
    The world does not have one second to waste on people like this.

    In fact, today, to be able to run any large scale organization, from a company to a country, requires a certain quality of thought and action, and a specific quantity of people doing the thinking and acting.
    Argentina has neither.
    Conclusion: It can not and will not survive the first quarter of this century.
    While all this talk is going on China has bought 50% of The Bridas Corporation, while Global interests have bought the other half using an Argentinian as a front man.
    That is pretty much what is happening here in a nutshell.
    Puerta Madero is the example is the microcosom of the macrocosom.
    It is booming because of an infusion of money from SOMEWHERE ELSE!
    Do you think the region, famous for it's lack of productivity, has all of a sudden become productive?
    And why btw is it unproductive?
    Because it is a low-trust culture. Low-trust, low-cooperation, low-productivity.

    The rest is all talk.

    As for the Falklands?
    No Army + All Talk = A Big Smackdown!

    Feb 01st, 2012 - 11:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @5 A somewhat infantile approach to sovereignty.

    The truth is very clear. The Falkland Islanders have the right to live peacefully and determine their own future. They do not want to be Argentine. Unless they change their minds nothing will change. Never.

    Feb 01st, 2012 - 11:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • A.J.Rimmer

    @5. I have looked at a map, I have also looked at many maps, including the famous map Argentina put forward to the ICJ for the Beagle Channel Dispute. Even THAT map says Falklands, British Territory.

    Gotta love it really!!

    Feb 01st, 2012 - 12:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Liberato

    Catagom, i was in London in 2004, they were still thinking Saddam had weapons of mass destruction. Thats how they've been naive, deceived by their own government and eated all the british propaganda.
    They british really believe they stand for democracy, invading foreing nations and taking their natural resources. They believe they stand for self-determination too, yet they expelled the illo community in the chagossian islands so the US can build and mantain a military base, they imprisioned the governor of Turks and Caicos with no proof but the word of a judge born in the UK, destroying their constitution in the passing by.
    Thats how the british think catagom and believe me they had never recognized any killings of innocent civilians in no of their adventurous wars.
    So we argentines who have no conscience do not get involved in wars for oil, just for peace keeping operations.

    Feb 01st, 2012 - 12:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • mendoc

    5 johnfarrel2050 (#) Feb 01st, 2012 - 11:39 am Report abuse
    As in a lot of cases, sooner or later the truth prevails, the truth can´t be hide for ever, UK must to know that the military power is not enough to hide the truth, in this case it´s absolutely clear that the Malvinas Islands belong to Argentina, just only, take a world map and look at it. Nothing more...
    Which maps do you refer? I have looked and they say the UK owns the Falklands.

    9 Liberato (#) did all the Argentines know about the lack of WMD then?

    Feb 01st, 2012 - 12:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Braedon

    @9 ah yes, that's why the largest public marches in British history have been against those wars, whereas the biggest marches in argentine history were in shrieking support of your attempt to subjugate the islanders.

    Britain, like all nations has interests and acts to further them, often in amoral ways, as all nations do. However, unlike your own nation, Britain has a long history of challenging and toppling tyrannical regimes, and also of massively improving the lives, livelihoods and status of those in it's protection.

    In the conflicts in Afghanistan, Iraq, and Libya we have assisted with the removal of demonstrably genocidal regimes which have caused near infinite suffering, and have aided in attempting to establish democracies there. While this indeed has been done in pursuit of British interests, it is still leagues ahead of what nations like argentina have done.

    argentina on the other hand, has done little but exterminate natives and steal their land, massacre political opponents and try to bully a peaceful island community into submission.

    But what truly shows how different Britain and argentina are, is that only in argentina is there a brainwashed, spineless population of drooling nationalists who demand thousands of innocent islanders be subjugated and ethnically cleansed, just so that argentines can fulfill their delusional national myth

    Feb 01st, 2012 - 12:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Nightingale

    “preserve the region as a zone of peace and prosperity” .. Wasnt it the argies invading the islands 82 that caused nearly 1000 deaths .. They seems to be the only ones with blood on their hands in this issue

    Feb 01st, 2012 - 12:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    6. I lived in Argentina a number of years and I have the exact same impression of them as you do. I think they are vile and corrupt with no redeeming personal qualities.
    They are doomed to failure and will be more like Venezuela/Bolivia than Brazil in the next few years. The successive gov't have stolen generations of wealth and most of the “people” are too dumb to even realize it.
    I use Argentina as a example of what the USA would become if Obama was re-elected and it hits home for anyone who knows anything about them.

    Feb 01st, 2012 - 01:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • stick up your junta

    the Malvinas Islands belong to Argentina, just only, take a world map and look at it. Nothing more...

    Does your map show the Argie island of Martin Garcia within the boundaries of Uruguayan waters?

    Feb 01st, 2012 - 01:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ptolemy

    Seriously,..turn back the world map to 1833 and see who owned what. The entire world would be at war over this map. There has got to be some statute of limitations.

    Feb 01st, 2012 - 02:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • TipsyThink

    (7)

    You say :

    The truth is vey clear............................

    I say :

    The reality is a lot of different,even when intentions are good,the system is still full of sloppy work,indifference,incompetence and politics.Attempts to cast a little light on the process get reactions that vary from a gentle pat on the head to outright hostility and retaliation.When common citizens get caught in the gears,the machine is imponderable and often unstoppable ,so the poors souls have little hope for true justice...!................

    Feb 01st, 2012 - 02:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • werowe

    Here is a review of Margaret Thatcher's book on the subject plus the view from Chile: http://www.gringolandiasantiago.com/2012/01/30/margaret-thatcher-on-the-malvinas-falklands-war/

    Feb 01st, 2012 - 02:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Scipio Africanus

    @13

    Are you Mexican - American yankeeboy?

    Feb 01st, 2012 - 03:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    ”It is a territorial dispute in South America which we want to see resolved, in the shortest time possible. If this happens we all win with a region ever more pacific and stable”, underlined the Brazilian diplomat

    Obrigado Brasil

    Feb 01st, 2012 - 04:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Scipio Africanus

    Marquitos, before you want to expand your house, the kitchen has to be clean first, se entiende? :-)

    Feb 01st, 2012 - 04:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Karl101

    Anyone heard of French Gianna ?

    Maybe worth remembering that French Gianna is part of territorial France.

    What's the relevance? Well any pan Latin American rhetoric on “colonisalism”, etc directed at Britain over the Falklands Islands, is probably far more relevant to French Guiana, which is not part of the South American land mass but has a native “South American” population. It is effectively a part of the EU siting smack bang in the middle of the OAS.

    If France wants to maintain sovereignty of French Gianna, it is in their interests that the EU takes seriously the threats to the Falkland Islands.

    It is in the interests of the OAS and EU that good relations continue. It isn't in the interests of the OAS to back a fascist governments claims in Argentina for territorial advancement. You may have a lot of back slapping and a lot of rhetoric but in reality, Argentina is on its own and always will be. Most of her neighbour fear her because they know the average Argentine isn't too bright.

    Feb 01st, 2012 - 04:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DanMoura

    France was much more clever to avoid any future troubles with french guyana. Brazil and France are in SOFA (status of force agreement) more or less an military and political alliance and
    nobody in SA will be fool enough to play with Brazil, even banana dictators like Chavez.
    However, about the islands, Brazil shouldnt support Argentina until them fulfil their support about our claim to the UNSC.
    Both countries have good arguments to defend their legitimacy over the islands.
    But i think is that this subject is getting back to disturb attention over others real issues, like controled news, economic statistics, etc.
    Hope this time our argie friends pick up quickly and dont let a corrupt government manage their toughts, with all due respect.
    Greetings.

    Feb 01st, 2012 - 06:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Britishbulldog

    Sorry Argentina but I can see quite a few countries’ bordering you just waiting in the shadows to ambush you, you are actually in a very difficult situation now, you have no money, your government is corrupt every country in South America hates you no matter what they say to your face. They are just waiting in the shadows for you to fail in this debacle. And seeing that you have no military to speak of I would not be surprised that in a very few short years you are invaded by one or more of these countries who are saying one thing and meaning another. your actually a very naive nation and that will be your downfall. You can’t see what is happening before your very eyes can you Country's like Brazil, Chile, Uruguay and one or two more are pushing you by supporting you in your fool’s gold in to a confrontation with us and when you do finely snap and do what THEY want your ripe for picking. BE WARNED for your own sake or Argentina will soon cease to exist.

    Feb 01st, 2012 - 06:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • shb

    @ Liberatp

    Thats how the british think catagom and believe me they had never recognized any killings of innocent civilians in no of their adventurous wars.
    So we argentines who have no conscience do not get involved in wars for oil, just for peace keeping operations.

    Do you mean like the thousands of murders committed in the dirty war by your military or the invasion of the falklands in 1982............

    Feb 01st, 2012 - 07:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Scipio Africanus

    “murders committed in the dirty war.... ”Is not murder when somebody is shooting at you and you have to shoot back? Is called a confrontation and like you said “it was a war” .... It needed some clarification Shb. :-)

    Feb 01st, 2012 - 07:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • O gara

    4 seems like most of the house of commons from Labour,Lib Dems and most of his own part dont quite see it like that teaboy or indded any of the serious English press which is admittedly ever smaller.
    6,13 two jokers who spent years in argentina and who couldnt even score once with an Argentine lady and how bitter the poor bast...s remain.
    Boys the English are an amazing lot.They have commied more savagery than any other nation in history but unlike their saxon neighbours in Germany have no collective guilt for their natural brutality.that is why modern Germans are well liked throughout Europe but the Union Jack brigade are held in utter contempt.

    Feb 01st, 2012 - 07:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    25 Simio Tejano
    What a milico pelotudo :-))

    Feb 01st, 2012 - 07:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Kipling

    Comment removed by the editor.

    Feb 01st, 2012 - 07:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Scipio Africanus

    Comment removed by the editor.

    Feb 01st, 2012 - 08:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    Insisted that solving the controversy with the UK is ‘most important’ for South America’s stability.

    [so are they saying that without an agreement in the Falklands
    The south American [act will just collapse then .]

    It also pointed out that it’s not correct to talk about “a blockade
    [shhhhh don’t mention the war.]

    Brazil may be falling into the classic trap
    You do my bidding and you get the blame
    And we pick up the spoils,
    .the only advise we can say , is NUTS .

    Feb 01st, 2012 - 08:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    29 Pomi, learn from Mr Think, he goes a little Typsy but never too Misty :-)

    Feb 01st, 2012 - 11:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • shb

    @ O GARA

    If you want brutallity - have a good look at the Soviet Union, Communist China, Cambodia under Pol Pot or Nazi Germany. Nothing we ever did can come close to that sort of murderousness.

    You're country has a track record of empire building too, starting wars with Brazil, annexing Paraguayan territory, threatening to invade Chile to seize their territory and attacking the Falklands. Not to mention the operations to sweep the natives from your desert regions and the dirty war. All these acts reguired a large amount of brutallity which the average Argentine will deny if you challenge them (to be fair you're countrymen are quite rightly disgusted at the actions of the Junta and I share your desire to see justice done to the guilty).

    History isn'nt pleasant, we've all got enough blood on out hands to go around and we know it.

    Stop making up ridiculous sweeping statements. You can crayon in as many imagined English atrocities as you like into your bumper colouring book of atrocities, lets see you prove your point with some sort of statistics, only I don't see that happening because you know you are talking codswallop.

    Feb 02nd, 2012 - 12:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ljordao

    Marcos Alejandro, obrigado, my bloody eye! Most Brazilians are repulsed by the idea of babysitting their colonialist and chauvinist neighbours. The ridiculous level of complacency exhibited by the present crop of Brazilian diplomats will cost dearly to Dilma Rousseff's popularity. Get a clue!

    Feb 02nd, 2012 - 12:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pragmatic Bob

    It's obvious that Kirchner isn't really serious about the islands. She's just trying to distract people from other issues that are hurting her popularity. If she WAS serious, she would have:

    1. Continued the joint oil exploration agreement with Britain
    2. Avoided the whole blockade/closing of ports
    3. Provided government help for the construction of oil exploration infrastructure at Argentine ports nearest to the islands
    4. Worked on developing South American tourism to the islands
    5. Encouraged easy and cheap commercial, educational and tourist connections between the islands and Argentina.
    6. Sat back and waited for the difference between 1000 miles to BA and 7000 miles to London to have their effect.

    Feb 02nd, 2012 - 01:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Filippo

    Who cares for Brazil?

    We will dominate them soon. They are only nation in Latin America no speak our language!

    Feb 02nd, 2012 - 01:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • tobias

    I adore shb's history lesson. Permit me to add an addendum of tru to his/her apocrypha:

    (1) Argentina went to war with Brazil in large measure to support Uruguayan patriots fostering rebellion in their homeland against the quixotic Brazilian Empire, a monarchical power in the Western Hemisphere, which had OCCUPIED Uruguay in 1822. Argentina had been fighting for 10 years against Royalism in Latin America; it was not about to tolerate a monarchy holding occupied territory across the Rio de la Plata, which the locals did not wish (sound familiar????). The war with Brazil was in fact to repel an empire, and not empire building by Argentina.

    (2) The Paraguayan war was a conflict, and I know people here will go apoplectic reading this, where Argentina perhaps was the most innocent player. The preponderant cause of the war was the combination of an extremely jingoist dictatorship in Paraguay (who had larger army than the ABU alliance COMBINED at the outset), coupled with Brazilian historical meddling in both Paraguayan and Uruguayan affairs, leading to factious intra and extra-national alliances. Somehow (I'm a layman on the details), the Uruguayan government of the time gained the antipathy of both Brazil and Argentina, but was supported by Paraguay. When Brazil invaded Uruguay (again), Uruguay solicited Paraguayan help. Paraguay declared war on Brazil, yet after a (forced) change of government in Uruguay following the Brazilians deposing the prior one, the new Uruguayan regime realigned with Brazil. Months later, this belligerent environment precipitated an invasion of Paraguayan troops into Argentine territory; Argentina retaliated.

    The “race for Patagonia” was performed with no threats to invade Chile. Both nations signed a series of treaties. If some Chileans today are dissatisfied with how their government dealt with the Patagonian and Tierra del Fuego questions, well that is not our concern. Are you suggesting peaceful treaties are conquest?

    Lesson over.

    Feb 02nd, 2012 - 01:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    33 ljordao
    I couldn't care less about your opinion and yes I say it again:
    Obrigado Brasil

    Feb 02nd, 2012 - 02:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ljordao

    “Who cares for Brazil? We will dominate them soon. They are only nation in Latin America no speak our language.” Well, Brazil also happens to be the only top dog in Latin America, and so, no, sorry to disappoint you, you are not going to dominate us. No dessert for you tonight, Filippo!

    I hope the pro-Britain crowd can see from Filippo's comment how fragile the so-called “Latin American unanimity” is.

    Feb 02nd, 2012 - 02:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    Filippo(Roger) is a British pretending to be an Argentinean.

    Feb 02nd, 2012 - 03:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Frank

    Marcos is a parrot pretending to be an Argentinian..... her real name is Polly...

    “”“He added “it would be incoherent to accept such a symbol; so much so that if vessels change flag, they can have access to all ports of the region”.”“”

    So no problem with a ship registered in 'Puerto Argentino' flying the British red ensign then.....??

    OK... carry on chaps......all's well....

    Feb 02nd, 2012 - 04:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    Frank is a Yank pretending to be a pastor in Puerto Williams...his real name is “black shoe lover”...

    Feb 02nd, 2012 - 04:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Teaboy2

    @o'gara #26 “seems like most of the house of commons from Labour,Lib Dems and most of his own part dont quite see it like that teaboy or indded any of the serious English press which is admittedly ever smaller.”

    Really o'gara - Sorry but you misunderstand what is actually going on. The Veto still Stands, the UK is still not signing up to the EU fiscal treaty, all cameron and the government has done is backed down on its stance to not allow EU bodies to be used to enforce the EU fiscal treaty on those that signed up to it. Perhaps you would care to explain how that means the UK's stance on signing up for the treaty which it vetoed (which only means they refuse to be part of the treaty) now means we are signing up to it when indeed we are not signing up to it at all. We are not part of the EU fiscal treaty as a result of the veto and that is not going to change nor has it changed. And i for one have not seen a single article in the press of on the news or anything mentioned in parlimentary debate on the issue that suggests the UK has decided sign up to the EU fiscal treaty. I suggest instead of reading just the headlines of “UK about turn on eurozone treaty” that you actually read the article and read between the lines, before making inaccurate and false statements. As we are not and will not be signing up to the EU fiscal treaty and neither is the cech republic.

    In fact heres just one of many articles that makes it clear we are not part of the EU fiscal treaty - http://praguemonitor.com/2012/02/02/pr%C3%A1vo-pro-eu-parties-should-sue-klaus-over-fiscal-treaty

    and i quote the relevant part, just incase all you read is the headline - “At an EU summit on Monday, all member countries except for Britain and the Czech Republic joined the new EU fiscal treaty. While the British rejected the treaty last December, the Czechs did so at the very last moment in Brussels.” Note the article was dated 2nd february 2012.

    Now show us a single article that says the opposite!!!!

    Feb 02nd, 2012 - 05:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Valle Ricardo

    26 O gara
    “6,13 two jokers who spent years in argentina and who couldnt even score once with an Argentine lady and how bitter the poor bast...s remain.”

    You feel the need to degenerate the post again with personal attacks.
    Stop projecting your own failings on us.

    Feb 02nd, 2012 - 01:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Filippo

    In 1970's my father responsible for helping to disappear many thousands of political traitors from this country but his work was undo by failiur of our coward military to win Las Mavlinas battle. But always remember that parents of disapeared were praising their government when we re-occupied Las Malvinas, this is proof that people believe in our country more than they care for their family. This is what make Argentine such strong country.

    We can be strong again, with all our might and all our passion directed at Las Malvinas and ignore all our problem at home, we can again be strong.

    Never give in to English colonials because our blood is thicker than water and the blood of Las Malvinas I believe is black gold for which many of us with right connections can get very rich from...

    Feb 02nd, 2012 - 02:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    Nice try “Philip”

    Feb 02nd, 2012 - 05:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • catagom

    9 Liberato (#)
    Feb 01st, 2012 - 12:19 pm

    “So we argentines who have no conscience do not get involved in wars for oil, just for peace keeping operations.”

    Ah, thanks Liberato. You reminded me of another very important attribute of psychopathic Argentinians, ie; The Myth of Innocence.
    That's the myth that says in effect, “We never do anything wrong. Things are done to us.”
    Blah, blah, blah.
    Like I said, you're all talk.
    Oh, and can you prove any of the accusations you made against the British
    Of course you can't.

    But I can prove everything I said in my comment about Argentinians.
    All one has to do is “Look and See” as Wittgenstein used to say.
    Just come and look for yourself. A nation of Mama's Boys.

    But the bottom line is: All talk like yours that I have heard from that kind of Argentinian is clearly pro-war when it comes to the Falklands.
    Pro-war in spite of the fact that you have no Military!
    This is what is known as Psychotic Arrogance.
    You are simply asking for it. And you're going to get it.

    My advice to the good Argentinians, and there happen to be more than a few, though regrettably not enough, is save your money, speak lots of English, and get with an English company or start one that is fluent in English.
    Why? Because the world is not coming to Argentina. The world is here.
    And it is doing very well.
    Expect the immigration laws to change.
    Expect a large flow of Chinese, Africans, Europeans, and Americans, and Canadians too.
    Buenos Aires is already the fifth fastest growing city in the world in the 21st century and it is all coming from outsiders.
    As one Argentine friend told me, “If you are 30 and can't speak English you are ****ed.”
    So “Liberator” you can't win a war, you don't run your own economy, we do, and you can't protect your people.
    You morons couldn't pick the winner of a one horse race.
    And your name? Liberator? What do you want to be liberated from? Morality? Intelligence? Hard word?

    Yankee Boy: Great comment about BO!

    Feb 02nd, 2012 - 06:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • tobias

    “That's the myth that says in effect, “We never do anything wrong. Things are done to us.”

    Actually, the entire planet if you ask them, think of this as the ”Anglo-American Myth of innonence“, mainly American but by extension British too.

    ”We didn't do anything to get the muslims pissed at us... ”

    Feb 02nd, 2012 - 06:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    niether did you,
    but they wacked you as well, did they not ??

    Feb 02nd, 2012 - 11:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Teaboy2

    @48 Don't you just love it when they conviently forget little details like that in an attempt to make us and the americans out as not being so innocent, only for yourself and the rest of use to put them straight in just one sentence, by reminding them that they too are not as innocent as they like to think lol

    Feb 03rd, 2012 - 12:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Scipio Africanus

    he that is without sin cast the first stone? ;-)

    Feb 03rd, 2012 - 02:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    49 Teaboy2 , more they lie,, more we put them straight.

    50 Scipio Africanus / who said that first ?

    Feb 03rd, 2012 - 09:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • tobias

    @48

    Yes we were. But at least we were clearly innocent, we did nothing to the muslims. Any terrorist attacks in the US and UK, while evil and wicked, do have a rational, and unlike us, you are not innocent in the matter.

    Feb 04th, 2012 - 06:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    52 tobias
    That would be seemed as an insult to hundred of innocent people who died in those attacks, including women, children , and of course Muslims,
    You cannot claim innocents in the form of a terrorist attack of any form,
    When you deal with people who think life has no meaning, then your opinion falls on deaf ears,
    And neither can you be hypocritical and continually blame the British and Americans,, unless of course it was our fault Argentina got whacked,
    ..

    Feb 04th, 2012 - 06:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • catagom

    47 tobias (#)

    Thanks for proving my point.
    Your knee-jerk reaction is to continue to put the blame somewhere else.

    Doesn't matter. You guys are doomed. You're just another typical Latin American Idiot, like the book of the same name describes.
    You have no conscience so we can't make an appeal to your humanity.

    All you do all day long is blame the US and English, and Western Europe and blah, blah, blah.

    The idea that someone from one of the most corrupt cultures in the history of culture or countries actually thinks he is morally superior to ANYONE else, let alone Americans is laughable.

    But yet you take yourself so seriously.

    What does the US Foreign policy have to do with dog shit on broken sidewalks, trash on broken streets, spray paint on broken buildings, etc? Nothing.

    Also, many Americans have spoken out about how it's Foreign policy has enraged the Middle East. But you deliberately ignore that and then - like most Argentinians, present your stupid idea as an ultimate truth and in an arrogant manner.

    You're sick, crazy, and stupid and you will not have a country for long.

    Also, do you know who controls the US Foreign, Domestic, and Economic policies? Do you think it's the President?

    And you talk about Americans as if they were one person.
    We are 300 million. The most diverse population in the history of countries.

    So, which American are you talking about?

    You don't know!

    But you keep on talking anyway, instead of cleaning up your own country.

    Like I said, a typical, loud-mouthed, Latin American Idiot of the Argentine variety.

    And the rest of Latin America hates you, as they keep reminding me.

    But they all want to live in the USA to live a better life, and many of them do.

    You're doomed you little Mama's Boy.

    Chau y Bueno Suerte!

    Feb 04th, 2012 - 09:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • row82

    Argentines are not very bright, given the choice between fascism and democracy they have chosen fascism every time. Given the choice between American hegemony and being an independent nation, they have chosen America hegemony every time, characterised by its attendant secret police (NSA, CIA, Special Forces and other such gestapo trappings, including their own) and an attendant military or militant right government.

    Given the choice between being diplomacy and child like spats of anger and lies, they choose child like spats of anger and lies.

    Argentina has never recovered from being a wannabe be Axis power in the 1930's. Argentina's version of fascism (like that of Spain's) remained undefeated by WW2 Allied powers. It hadn't even had to fight a real civil war to maintain power, just murder 50,000-100,000 of its own unarmed political activists and we all know how easy that was for their brave and heroic military men, like their hero Commander Astiz.

    It took the Falklands War to shake the Argentines into some semblance of reality. Remove their military government and see the Americans as something other than a benevolent uncle, rather more like a the uncle you kept your children away from, you know the one in the old mack who always had his hands in his pockets and a grimace on his lips.

    But within a few short years a girl came alone, a wannabe Eva Peron and took them all the way back to year zero! And the Argentine people gave up their collective memory and switched back to servile child.

    In the West it's very difficult to understand how the average Argentine thinks. We have to imagine how our own per-adolescent children think and we can then get into their mindset. Give them a box of toy soldiers & some flags to play with and they are as happy as pie, tell them that they can't own Tracey Island though and they will cry their eyes out.

    At school, the teachers would always tell them “Tracey Island” was their's. Even though the reality was, it wasn't..

    Feb 06th, 2012 - 12:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • nitrojuan

    THANK YOU , All South America, Caribean Commonwealth Countries, Unites States, Russia, China, All AFrica, Some asian countries and now IRELAND which we share the same hero of Lft.Brown. to support Malvinas Argentinas. THe empire is falling down in a decadence kindom ... www.youtube.com/watch?v=xd3o21MW2vI

    a message from Ushuaia, Capital of TDF, Antarctica & South Atlantic Islands (includes Malvinas islands).

    Feb 06th, 2012 - 01:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    you missed outer mongolia .

    Feb 06th, 2012 - 01:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

Commenting for this story is now closed.
If you have a Facebook account, become a fan and comment on our Facebook Page!