Thursday, February 2nd 2012 - 23:08 UTC

Iron Lady, basically a mediocre film, according to the Argentine reviews

Meryl Streep may have been nominated for an Oscar for her portrayal of British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher in “The Iron Lady” but Argentine critics reviewed the film as ‘mediocre’ during its premiere in Buenos Aires on Thursday.

Praise for Meryl Streep’s efforts but a poor script with not much new revelations

The film opened in Argentine theaters amid a furor over the Falkland Islands, which Thatcher's Britain and Argentina fought a brief and bloody war over 30 years ago, when forces sent by the military Junta invaded the Islands in April 1982.

In the movie, Thatcher is shown ordering Britain's military to sink the Argentine warship Belgrano, which killed 323 Argentine sailors and remains controversial because the ship was considered to be outside the war zone.

She also dismisses the entreaties of the American ambassador to settle the dispute peacefully, suggesting that as a woman, she's had to “go to war every day” to maintain her hold on power.

Reducing the war to a question of feminism “is absurd, to say the least,” the daily Clarin wrote in Thursday's review. Nevertheless it admits that the brief scenes on the Malvinas war will “trigger curiosity” among Argentine public opinion, even when there are not that many revelations, besides the fact that the Iron Lady was the most convinced of going ahead with the war, in spite of all the advise to the contrary.

Others praised Streep's acting, but panned the script as mediocre.

“A character so controversial for her own citizens, the citizens of the world and especially for Argentines, Thatcher deserves a better movie” huffed La Nacion.

According to government financed Tiempo Argentino the director Phyllida Lloyd opts for a former prime minister that in senility and with the first symptoms of Alzheimer, “roams through her home holding imaginary conversations with her late husband and ill-treating her daughter”.

However it praised the re-edition of the war, “one of the few chapters with the right timing with a documented and serious investigation about the conflict”.

Which is the Thatcher that the director, script writer and leading actress really wanted to come across with asks Pagina 12. Ultimately the former prime minister is not properly defined.

For Ambito Financiero the film shows a Margaret Thatcher that pleases nobody. “Only the good team of actors with Meryl Streep saves a biography poorly compiled, from mediocrity”.

“The film will not please feminists or admirers or opponents of the Iron Lady and for Argentina it adds another factor of disappointment: “a triumphant Troy version of the Malvinas War with an admiration framework for that terrible imperial order to ‘Sink the Belgrano’”.

The sinking of the General Belgrano cruiser 2 May 1982 caused the loss of 323 Argentine sailors, mostly conscripts, and half the Argentine losses in the war. The sinking was involved in a long standing controversy because allegedly she was exiting the British exclusion zone imposed round the Falklands when she was torpedoed.

However politics aside Argentine Navy officers and recently released documents from the UK indicate that she was actually regrouping with an Argentine task force planning an attack on the Islands.
 

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1 Braedon (#) Feb 02nd, 2012 - 11:17 pm Report abuse
its been receiving mediocre reviews everywhere

hardly something worthy of an article
2 Marcos Alejandro (#) Feb 02nd, 2012 - 11:25 pm Report abuse
:-))
3 BenC30 (#) Feb 02nd, 2012 - 11:52 pm Report abuse
It's like asking the Pope his views on Condoms - you know what the answer would be! No surprise there.
4 British_Kirchnerist (#) Feb 03rd, 2012 - 12:20 am Report abuse
Cristina is the real Iron Lady, if only we had a leader like her in Britain willing to stand up for the people against the bankers and special interests
5 BenC30 (#) Feb 03rd, 2012 - 12:23 am Report abuse
British_Kirchnerist >> Surely Cristina is more 'Plastic Lady' than 'Iron Lady'?
6 British_Kirchnerist (#) Feb 03rd, 2012 - 12:53 am Report abuse
To throw another British icon into the mix I'd say she's the people's iron lady =) But seriously I wish we had a leader like her to grow the economy and put people first, rather than Cameron with his disastrous cuts and servility to the banks who caused our economic crisis. As someone who has no time at all for either Thatcher or Galtieri I admire Cristina even more for being the constant target of abuse on here from supporters of both =)
7 UKOwnsArgentina (#) Feb 03rd, 2012 - 01:27 am Report abuse
I have been doing some research and found that following the successful British invasions of the Río de la Plata Britain did not cede sovereignty and there is a continuous claim of UK sovereignty over Argentina..
8 Fido Dido (#) Feb 03rd, 2012 - 01:56 am Report abuse
Typical british propaganda and worst movie ever. They couldn't even find a british lady to play the role.
9 union.civica.radical (#) Feb 03rd, 2012 - 03:12 am Report abuse
¡¡¡PIRATAS FOR EVER!!! THE GOD'S HAND...
10 ElaineB (#) Feb 03rd, 2012 - 03:17 am Report abuse
I saw the film and enjoyed the acting. I think the script is lacking in places. This is very much a drama and not an historic account of MT's time in office.
11 Kiwisarg (#) Feb 03rd, 2012 - 04:52 am Report abuse
Pirates and bullies for ever.....!!GO HOME!!
12 Nightingale (#) Feb 03rd, 2012 - 08:45 am Report abuse
I think the argies are obsessed with us...It all they ever talk about
13 BenC30 (#) Feb 03rd, 2012 - 09:31 am Report abuse
#11 - are you having trouble with Somali pirates? Didn't realise they sailed that far but don't worry the Royal Navy is in the South Atlantic, that should hopefully deter them for you.
14 Dr Carrizal (#) Feb 03rd, 2012 - 09:51 am Report abuse
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Note that in the rugby sevens in Wellington (the capital of NZ, FYI...) today, Argentina went down (lost) bleating...

If, in actuality, or the film version, more - or less - Argentine sailors had died, would this have made the film more, or less, popular in Argentina? Many people did not like Thatcher, myself included, but she was a vast improvment on the maggots who were running Argentina at the time.
15 AGCOWES (#) Feb 03rd, 2012 - 10:24 am Report abuse
The Argentine media can ´t accept to see in the movie the characterization of the real Margaret Thatcher a woman fighting by her principles with coherence against a maffia dictatorship that was initiated an invasion of the Islands inhabited by a peaceful people.
16 McClick (#) Feb 03rd, 2012 - 10:42 am Report abuse
I am certain that this film will find a market mostly ,especially in Argentina not in England.
17 MichaelLocke (#) Feb 03rd, 2012 - 08:30 pm Report abuse
“Cristina is the real Iron Lady, if only we had a leader like her in Britain willing to stand up for the people against the bankers and special interests”

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA honestly I cried with laughter in real life.
18 British_Kirchnerist (#) Feb 03rd, 2012 - 10:10 pm Report abuse
Think Dave's doing well then? Enjoying the cuts and double dip recession?
19 MichaelLocke (#) Feb 03rd, 2012 - 10:21 pm Report abuse
I am enjoying the cuts. As a matter of fact, I'd cut even deeper (and my income is a fair bit below the national average).
20 British_Kirchnerist (#) Feb 03rd, 2012 - 10:36 pm Report abuse
More fool you then. Truth is whether you enjoy masochism or not, and thats your own private choice, the cuts are not working as public policy as evidenced by the double dip recession
21 BenC30 (#) Feb 03rd, 2012 - 11:06 pm Report abuse
18 - Think Dave's doing well then? Enjoying the cuts and double dip recession?

Well guess what...
I'm doing better than ever under the Tories. I have a great job. I have just purchased a new car. I am off on holiday abroad this year - possibly twice. I am also in the process of redecorating my home and tomorrow will be buying myself a new watch. I'm really loving life at the moment. I eat out regular at Gastro Pubs and make frequent shopping trips to London. What recession? I do not support the Tories and have never voted for them, nor Labour either, but I must say life is rather good. I know it isn't the same for all my fellow citizens but there we go. Shit happens. In life some people are on the way up as others are on their way down.

I must agree with Michael Locke - the cuts are not going deep enough.

One question though, has Argentina taken notice of any of IMF advice relating to their terrible inflation? No, because they are too caught up talking about the Falkland Islands.
22 British_Kirchnerist (#) Feb 04th, 2012 - 12:31 am Report abuse
Or maybe because too many other countries, and Argentina in the past, got screwed by taking advice from those sharks in the first place
23 MichaelLocke (#) Feb 04th, 2012 - 12:43 am Report abuse
Masochism? Not at all, I'm doing the same sort of work I did before 2008 and still end the month with a healthy disposable income.

Also, we're not in a double dip recession yet; there's been only one quarter of negative growth. I suppose you shouldn't be expected to understand simple economic terms seeing as you idolize Cristina Kirchner, Queen of Latin American basketcase economies (Chavez is King).
24 British_Kirchnerist (#) Feb 04th, 2012 - 01:56 am Report abuse
I support Cristina (and yes Chavez) over Cameron because she wants the economy to serve ordinary people, people like you, rather than greedy bankers and vested interests, even if you dont
25 BenC30 (#) Feb 04th, 2012 - 02:05 am Report abuse
Support Chavez? He is so paranoid he thinks the US has given him cancer (along with other Souh American leaders). The guy is a crazy.

Would you like the UK to have crazy inflation hikes as bad as some South American countries? Their policies are wrong. They have pathetic priorities - Argentina would rather let their country crumble and gain the Falkland Islands than have a safe, economically stable, wealthy country.
26 AGCOWES (#) Feb 04th, 2012 - 12:16 pm Report abuse
It is not real that Cristina & Chavez wants the economy to serve ordinary people ..They play the roll of “good leaders” cheating the people making believe that their interest are protected but they really are working for their interest and the polititian and business ´men arround the power ....They don ´t care about individuals interest of the nation ´s people ....I am sory but that it is the trust.
27 Pirat-Hunter (#) Feb 04th, 2012 - 04:29 pm Report abuse
good, lets build a mini sub fleet in Argentina and set a protection area around Islas Malvinas Argentina and sink any ship coming near, as UK did with the Argentine ship.
28 livin' in argentina (#) Feb 05th, 2012 - 03:32 am Report abuse
your really are a pratt
29 row82 (#) Feb 06th, 2012 - 12:38 am Report abuse
Argentines are not very bright, given the choice between fascism and democracy they have chosen fascism every time. Given the choice between American hegemony and being an independent nation, they have chosen America hegemony every time, characterised by its attendant secret police (NSA, CIA, Special Forces and other such gestapo trappings, including their own) and an attendant military or militant right government.

Given the choice between being diplomacy and child like spats of anger and lies, they choose child like spats of anger and lies.

Argentina has never recovered from being a wannabe be Axis power in the 1930's. Argentina's version of fascism (like that of Spain's) remained undefeated by WW2 Allied powers. It hadn't even had to fight a real civil war to maintain power, just murder 50,000-100,000 of its own unarmed political activists and we all know how easy that was for their brave and heroic military men, like their hero Commander Astiz.

It took the Falklands War to shake the Argentines into some semblance of reality. Remove their military government and see the Americans as something other than a benevolent uncle, rather more like a the uncle you kept your children away from, you know the one in the old mack who always had his hands in his pockets and a grimace on his lips.

But within a few short years a girl came alone, a wannabe Eva Peron and took them all the way back to year zero! And the Argentine people gave up their collective memory and switched back to servile child.

In the West it's very difficult to understand how the average Argentine thinks. We have to imagine how our own per-adolescent children think and we can then get into their mindset. Give them a box of toy soldiers & some flags to play with and they are as happy as pie, tell them that they can't own Tracey Island though and they will cry their eyes out.

At school, the teachers would always tell them “Tracey Island” was their's. Even though the reality was, it wasn't!
30 British_Kirchnerist (#) Feb 06th, 2012 - 04:02 pm Report abuse
What a complete travesty of a history, WHATEVER elsse you might think of her to say Cristina has taken Agentina “back to year zero” (when no-one has done more to bring the junta to justice and ensure the human rights of their victims), is not only a complete lie, its a joke
31 Benito (#) Feb 07th, 2012 - 06:38 pm Report abuse
@ 30 British_Kirchnerist

Where are you living? Certainly not Argentina. Who has been brought to justice? A few short prison terms, slaps on wrists. You are not even on same planet!

You can tell me what Kirchner has done for the economy? The corruption? She's in bed with the corruption and being screwed by the economy!
32 ernvera (#) Feb 09th, 2012 - 06:14 am Report abuse
I only saw a couple of scenes of this mediocre movie. Clearly, it is a morbid exacerbation of a brutal and irrational nationalism. I can imagine the scene in wich this decorated criminal order the sinking of General Belgrano. That was a war crime, a vessel outside the war area, full of children of 18 years. This macabre and bloody ritual which is celebrated in London, the cave where all humanity and its cultures were eated.
33 fermin (#) Feb 09th, 2012 - 04:16 pm Report abuse
Hey I live in Argentina and I haven't heard that it is a mediocre film. In fact I want to watch the movie. I love Meryl. I am a bit disappointed that she took part in this movie that I suspect intends to humanize such a right-winger like Tatcher -friend of the chilean dictator Pinochet-.

I wonder: is it just accidental that a film like this comes in a moment where ordinary people is being wanted to pay the crisis in Europe?

I hope I am just being prejudiced about this. But the truth is that films always support political and ideological ideas behind the stories they tell.

I want to watch it anyway :)
34 British_Kirchnerist (#) Feb 09th, 2012 - 06:20 pm Report abuse
“I wonder: is it just accidental that a film like this comes in a moment where ordinary people is being wanted to pay the crisis in Europe?”

Good question, I like how you think =) But seeing how much a lot of Thatcherites over here hate the film themselves (a lot of it is about the present day Thatcher suffering from dementia) and given that its director last worked with Meryl on Mamma Mia, I'm not sure thats right. This time...

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