Except for defence, Falklands don’t need anything from any country, says MLA Sawle
The Falklands don’t need anything from any country, not even England, said Dick Sawle elected member of the Falklands Legislative Assembly, although admitting that the Islands do rely on the UK for protection.
“When talking about the Falkland Islands, there are three parts involved in this: the British government, ours, which is a democracy and Argentina,” although Argentina only acknowledges the United Kingdom for negotiations, insisted MLA Sawle.
“We are always willing to talk to Argentina about many issues except our sovereignty, because we want to continue with our self-determination and determine our own future. Our sovereignty is not negotiable,” he assured.
Speaking as a guest on the BBC Radio 2’s Jeremy Vine show, MLA Sawle minimized the arrival of Prince William to the Falklands, second in line to the British Crown, and pointed out that his arrival, as well as the deployment of the destroyer ship HMS Dauntless to the South Atlantic Islands “had been planned several months in advance”.
“There are things going on here all the time, such as Prince William doing his job as a helicopter pilot. If people want to read something else into that, then it is not true. And the HMS Dauntless is a Type 45 ship replacing a Type 42 one, which was already pretty old. Its deployment is normal and something like this happens in any modern military force” he stated.
Sawle then rejected an eventual integration of the Falkland’ economy with Argentina's because “their economy is pretty strong”.
“We do not depend on any country, not even England, expect for their defence of the Islands, necessary due to Argentina’s aggression in the past, which has continued since 1982,” he said.
Sawle mentioned several matters that both sides discussed in the past which allowed Argentine citizens to visit the Falklands with their passports since 1999 or their engaging in talks to protect the area’s natural resources, “but unfortunately Argentina only wants to talk about one thing: our sovereignty. And that is something we don’t want to negotiate”.
He said however, that the current diplomatic spat between Argentina and the UK is “nothing but a war of words”.
“Deep inside, I believe Argentina is a peaceful nation and the Government has always said that they do not want to aim their guns at us. I believe this is true. We are very peaceful people too and we don’t want any conflicts like the one we lived in 1982” insisted MLA Sawle.
After assuring that the Islands’ administration would continue with their policy of granting permits for oil exploration, Sawle said that “most of the Falklands’ population sees itself as Islanders first and British second.”
“Deep inside, we’re all very British, and many tourists visiting us say we’re more British than the British. We have our own traditions and British traditions as well. We also have people from other countries living peacefully among us: people from Chile, Saint Helena and Argentina, who we have no problem with. There is no discrimination towards other nationalities,” he concluded.
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Read what Dick has to say:
MALVINAS DON”T NEED ANYTHING FROM ANY COUNTRY
Therefore, according to Dick they don't need to trade with S.America.
You don't agree? Take it up with Dick
Fresh Eggs, Bananas, Grapes, Peaches, Plums, Nectarines, Strawberries and some fresh vegetables.
Is this correct?
Fresh Eggs, Bananas, Grapes, Peaches, Plums, Nectarines, Strawberries and some fresh vegetables.
Well some minus well inform Dick about because he seems to think otherwise...
lol
Simply trying to establish the facts.
Its just that fresh eggs, strawberries and fresh vegetables shouldn't be too much of a problem for the Islanders to produce themselves with a bit of investment. As for bananas, grapes and stoned fruit, well nice if you can get them but are they really that important.
As for the relatives of the Argentinian soldiers they would still be able to visit the Islands but would simply have to fly to the Islands via London.
So I hesitate to say this but from a purely practical, non-political view point, is the air link with Chile that important?
What are the Islanders views?
It's important because Islanders like to visit South America and many people have family and business connections there.
It's also important for the Chileans who live here.
It's also important for Argentines who want to visit.
In the long run, isolating the FI from South America is a mistake on the part of Argentina as it makes us more dependent on the UK and other places north for imports. It gives them less leverage, not more. It also encourages us to be more self- sufficient.
The fresh produce thing is a side issue. Quite a lot is now coming in on the oil flight.
Dick Sawle was talking about not depending on anyone in a financial sense. Everyone needs to trade, as even the most infantile Argentine blogger knows. we would all much rather it was with SA. If Argentina chooses to stop that, then it can try. It won't hurt much, but it will be very sad for all of us.
Good to get the Islanders perspective because at the end of the day, they are the only people who matter in all this. Thanks Monty.
It's just silly.
Like a spoilt child.
It is significant that he confirms the islanders cannot defend themselves.I'm sure they need the UK to do that function as no other country would defend the occupation of the islands.That is real point of the occupation.It needs to be maintained by force(while ever it can)
WHAT???!! Aggression from Argentinian side has continued?? Where has this man been since 1982? hasn't he read a newspaper at least? What aggression??
Argentina has claimed PEACEFULLY in the last years and this is what gets this right-wingers angry. They hate diplomacy.
What does ”WE DO NOT DEPEND ON ANY COUNTRY“ mean?
Doesn't he know there is something called GLOBALIZATION?
How funny, he thinks he lives in a DEMOCRACY while the floor the kelpers are standing on is specifically said to belong to the Queen, expressed like this by the British Government a few weeks ago.
It is funny how these people see LIFE IN TERMS OF WAR, I can notice when they see diplomacy as a ”WAR OF WORDS” Can somebody tell this man that there are different types or relationships between societies apart from WAR?
Argentina's constitution as it is today can assure the people living at the islands their british tradition, their choice to do commerce with foreign countries and even give them places at the Argentinian Congress, like any other province.
And it wouldn't be the first province in Argentina where there are several official languages.
WHAT???!! Aggression from Argentinian side has continued?? Where has this man been since 1982? hasn't he read a newspaper at least? What aggression??
Have a word with 23 Yuleno
It is significant that he confirms the islanders cannot defend themselves.I'm sure they need the UK to do that function as no other country would defend the occupation of the islands.That is real point of the occupation.It needs to be maintained by force(while ever it can)
Are immigrants allowed to stand for election in Argentina, or do you have to have been born there?
That's it.
Technically they are all immigrants Monty. So i doubt they have such a law. Only a few decades ago more than half the country were born in Europe, even their presidents parents arrived from Europe. It's not a real nation.
The Argentines are not a real nation, their country has only existed for about 175 years. Most Argentines trace their family history to Italy, Spain, Germany and the British Isles. The only real Argentines are the Amerindians and their nation is the entire continent of America.
The Argentines I know have Italian mothers, English father, Spanish grandfathers, German grandmothers, Welsh great great uncles. It's technically impossible to claim Argentines are a nation.
They also have the most comically fascist like government on the entire continent. Their entire policy agenda revolves around a group of islands they work 24/7 to alienate the population of. While spreading lies and peddling rants about “the British” that make Mugabe look normal by comparison.
Latin Americans find Argentina an alien culture, its a colonial relic, a piece of Europe transplanted onto a continent thousands of miles away. The culture is Latin European, with a touch of English and Welsh. It certainly bears no resemblance to its neighbors in Paraguay, Bolivia, Venezuela, or Peru.
Even the Argentine honour guards wear colonial uniforms copied from the British and Spanish Imperial era.
They are a throwback to another age. An age of fascism.
So who is to blame for the continued aggression and threats to the islanders,
And that same nation, could end this and return the place to peaceful tranquillity again,
So why does she persist on the relentless
Stalking of the islands,
.
malvina does not exist,
and even if the falklands are a british colony, and part of the british rmpire and are british,?
you still have no rights to them .
Argentines too.And WE WANT OUR PROPERTY BACK!
What a bunch of fantasy items at your comment!
Argentina has very strong european culture influences, of course, but be sure that another latinamerican countries also have them, in Peru, Mexico, Colombia, etc. colonialism was really strong, not like in this part of Latinamerica.
And if it was true what you say, nowadays Argentinian culture is looking like never before into its native aspects.
AND... if it is about immigrants, they can even come and study at our universities FOR FREE.
And about the voting thing: if you go to the past you will find that an important part of these european masses of immigrants where communists, anarchists, and they had ideologies that went agains the system in Europe. Argentina gave them a place far from war (and hunger in many cases) and involved them into a political democratic system very soon. With Education, not with fascist and aggressive nationalism like in the Europe of middle-wars time.
the World needs PEACE, or at least not so many wars every year. The british conservative governors in London have always user WARS to seize land, to get resources, to dominate another cultures. TODAY it is THE SAME....
What a pity, Governments like Cameron's one only give more fuel to WARS.
The word “Diplomacy” is not in their dictionaries.
How much you have invested in WEAPONS since 1945 ? Who got the money of this business ? I bet all of the Brits who are involved in this discussion did.
What do you mean you did not ??????
Read it. Argentina will not go to a war. you are pushing it. Have ever try to use your
brain for once?
Diplomacy might be in your dictionary, but it must have a different definition to the one in mine. Likewise 'peace'.
www.falklandshistory.org/spanish4.pdf
What about the land that Argentina STOLE from Paraguay in 1871?
They want their property back, also. Hypocrite.
They will be given choice be reborn Argentine like true hero James Peck, he turned his back on his dead father who was traitor during Malvinas War and helped British. James unlike his father Terry is brave and heroic Argentine.
If you do not with to be reborn you will be destroyed. We know well how to treat civilians who are traitors of Argentina. We have long record of destorying all traces of them.
At least you've all stopped blithering on about where Dick Sawle was born.
The point surely is that he is our elected representative. We voted for him, and we don't care where he was born. And you can all just mind your own business.
You're quite wrong. A UK person moving to the Falkland Islands keeps his UK citizenship, as we all do, and would wherever we went. He doesn't have the right to vote unless he acquires Falkland Island Status, and to do that he has to satisfy very strict immigration conditions, including being a permanent resident of quite a few years standing. The other thing you can do in the interim is apply for a permanent residence permit, but those aren't easy to come by either.
Anyway, are you an international lawyer? Only the UN named us recently as one of 16 territories that could exercise their right to self determination and cease to be colonies (press release of the UN Decolonisation Committe 2010). Your argument is spurious, because we are a distinct people as far as having anything in common with Argentina goes. We don't, and we'd keep on turning up to the UN asking for our freedom.
as its only as good as the person who puts the info into it,
so argentine indocrination cannot be over ruled,
or can it,
You can carry on parading your ignorance for us all to enjoy or you can educate yourself, it's all the same to me.
Personally I think it does us more good the more we can have a good giggle at you.
BTW would you like the link to that press release?
As for Britain, well, it has little culture left. British culture today consist mostly of trashy reality TV and pure naffness. The British despise creativity, having a very poor visual sense and a philistine belief that the more crap something looks, the more “substance” it has.
And thats the way we like it. So whats it got to do with you?
What I would like to highlight in this thread is that the author commented on is a British subject who located himself on the islands in the employment with the British government.He didn't emigrate to the islands.He could return to the UK tomorrow if he wished.Many Israelites also have dual citizenship to keep the advantages of their original nationality.But the people of the Malvinas don't have citizenship in the Malvinas.
I always think of the Cuban crisis,and how the west felt perfectly justified in their response to a bilateral agreement of two independent states.If you can see the concerns of the USA as genuine in that instances,then you must be able to ,at least,recognise the same principles of concern in this instance.
This does not,of course,mean that I view the situation with the Malvinas as anything other than an occupation by a foreign country,but I make this illustration just to try to get a little bit of understanding of argentina's situation.The refusal to negotiate can only justify Argentina in viewing the occupation as a hostile situation which is threatening to global peace.
wait and see what the UN does
this will be very interesting
2012 the year of the british
and the end of CFK perhaps .
The structure of the Security Council keeps the status quo for a lot of unfair situations in this world.
The more power you give to civilizations like the British ones the worse the results are...
This is the UN we have, and this is the world today: hunger, poverty, pollution.
Let's go on administrating the world resources from Washington, London, Moscow, etc and we will destroy the planet soon.
The UK conservative Government, with its dislike for diplomacy/human rights/democracy is a threaten to the world.
if the UN was that bad, why is CFK going there,
if the UN has problems, then untill people come up with a better one, then this one will have to do,
britain, does not have more power, in fact britain has less power now in the world that it did say 30 years ago ,
as for the destruction of the planet, while i agree that we humand are doing bad things, please dont go around blaming the british, we are doing more than some to be greener, and besides, china and india are the world formost poluters are they not ,
the british have nothing to talk about, and as for human rights, i would strongly suggest then you compare the human rights record of argentina first .
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