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Argentina confirms it has accepted UN mediation offer for the Malvinas dispute
The Argentine government confirmed on Tuesday through a letter sent by Foreign Minister Héctor Timerman to the United Nations (UN) General Assembly President, Nassir Abdulaziz Al-Nasser, that Argentina had accepted the mediation offer in order to find a pacific solution with the United Kingdom over the sovereignty of the Malvinas Islands. Read full article
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Feb 14th, 2012 - 10:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Err, yeah, okay. Don't call us, we'll call you.
Feb 14th, 2012 - 10:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This United Nations Decolonisation Committee seems to essentially be a place where 1930s Germany styled countries can go and use a wide selection of excuses used by the Empire of Japan (i.e. geographic proximity, historical revisionism) for basically just taking land off other countries.
Feb 14th, 2012 - 10:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Does no one in the UN, particularly Ban 'Japan f*cked on Korea' Ki-moon not read the remit for these committees before giving them the green light? Is there a UN De-ethnic-cleansing Committee where they all discuss how to ethnic-cleanse?
I really think we should be told.
THE UN WANTS NEGOTIATIONS EVEN OFFERS ITS MEDIATION.ARGENTINA ACCEPTS UN MEDIATION.NOW WE WILL FIND OUT DO THE ENGLISH HAVE ANY RESPECT FOR THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY.
Feb 14th, 2012 - 10:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@4 O gara (#) You mean like Argentina's Great respect for the international community and any peoples that get in the way of its thirst for oil ?! lol.....
Feb 14th, 2012 - 10:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What the...... The UN haven't offered mediation! This really takes the p***! the falkland islanders haven't even been asked by the UN what they think! How f******* dare he! I never swear on here, but this is so unbelievable!
Feb 14th, 2012 - 10:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'm beginning to suspect this United Nations malarky is actually just a bit ineffective and seems to not really be telling what are essentially neo-Nazi (authoritarian national socialist) governments to get forked.
Feb 14th, 2012 - 10:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The fact they seem to be allowing Argentina to push their policy of expansion through geographic proximity makes it no better than the League of Nations... and we all know how effective that was against Nazis.
Poster 4, I think you are confused.
Feb 14th, 2012 - 10:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The UN doesn't want anything but offers to mediate should both parties wish to do so, this has nothing to do with respect for the international community, its a matter for the UK and Argentina should the UK wish to get involved and you guess it, the UK does not!
There has still been no mention of what the Falkland Islanders want?
Feb 14th, 2012 - 10:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The UN should do nothing until this is made clear!
@9. I think, in practical terms, the UN doesn't actually know what 'Self Determination' is. That's why the British Ambassador was face-palming all the way through his news conference.
Feb 14th, 2012 - 10:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So, they've accepted mediation. Which the clear analogy is like a car-jacker demanding that you give him the car, and you saying no, and then him getting a mediator to mediate his demands that you give him the car.
Like what is that? Mr United Nations, what the hell is that? Because we don't know.
I'm not sure anyone at the UN is addressed by “Your Excellency”?
Feb 14th, 2012 - 10:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just shows how much Argentina is bowing down and out-of-its-depth on the International stage.
@ 4 Ogara, what will you Malvinists do when the UN confirms that The Falklands/Malvinas are British? You live in Europe, so we will never know, what will you do Malvinists? It will be interesting to see. You Malvinists are funny people.
Feb 14th, 2012 - 10:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0”I beg of you to transmit this willingness to the UK”... Did you beg for someone to transmit your lack of willingness when you walked out of discussions with the UK in 2003?
Feb 14th, 2012 - 10:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'm guessing he did beg.
It is about time that Britain let go of its colonial past.The days of Britain ruling the waves and robbing the world at will are long gone.
Feb 14th, 2012 - 11:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@14 well it appears that the days of robbing the world are alive and well in Nazi Germany, sorry, Argentina.
Feb 14th, 2012 - 11:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 012 If the UN declares the Malvinas to be English xbarilox I will accept their verdict as the UN is the ultimate arbitrator.Donde vivo o quien soy no importa solo importa la verdad.Su verdad es 30,000 desaparecidos.
Feb 14th, 2012 - 11:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 06 The UN indeed has offered to mediate bewtween two sovereign governments you are correct.This is what the vast majority of the international community think is correct including your old all the United States who clearly say this is an issue bewtween Argentina and the UK
British colonial past? Ha!
Feb 14th, 2012 - 11:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0When will you accept that the people of the Falkland Islands want nothing to do with Argentina?
Its a little one sided at the moment, all I heard was a Minister sucking up to a UN General Assembly president telling him that the sun shines out of his rear end, but he seem to leave out the fact it was Buenos Aires who cut communications with London because we never said, “Well ok you win”
Feb 14th, 2012 - 11:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Watch this space ...............
OGaga the UN doesn't have the power to decide on sovereignty matters !
Feb 14th, 2012 - 11:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The offer of mediation is a long-standing one. The UN has always had the power to mediate. The question is - do you understand what the term means ?
I was asked a question to which I responded. I would ask you to read the thread before you go off on your holier than thou attitude.
Feb 14th, 2012 - 11:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The question you need to ask is do the english government have any respect for the United Nations of which it is a security council member.
@12 You Malvinists are funny people.
Feb 14th, 2012 - 11:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Says the guy who used to be a Malvinist. You're a joke, mate.
21 He was a Malvinist when the dictatorship went to war but when a democratic government asks for talks well then he is opposed
Feb 14th, 2012 - 11:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 021 Roddy boy
Feb 14th, 2012 - 11:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We've got the islands and the oil and Argentina is trying everything it can think of , or is capable of, but you still don't have the islands. Who's the fucking joke.
What is it with the Sir Rodderick bullshit anyway? Who knighted you?
@20 Let's have a quick language lesson for the Argofags amongst us.
Feb 14th, 2012 - 11:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Demand is “to ask for peremptorily or urgently”, so to ask for without any change of denial or refusal.
Negotiate is “to deal or bargain with another or others, as in the preparation of a treaty or contract or in preliminaries to a business deal.”
So, just to be straight here, we quite rightly aren't listening to your peremptorily demands and we have no interest in dealing or bargaining over sovereignty of the Falklands.
Which part of this exactly are you people struggling to understand?
There was no solution to the Irish Problem until the Good Friday Agreement 1998. The Republic of Ireland put a proposal to amend Articles 2 abd 3 of the 1937 Constitution to remove the Sovereignty Claim. A separate Referendum was held in the Republic and Northern Ireland and was carried 91% an 71% respectively.
Feb 14th, 2012 - 11:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The 19th Amendment of the Constituion came into force and we have PEACE.
Sovereignty must be taken off the agenda to alllow even talks about talks.
The British Government has lots of respect.
Feb 14th, 2012 - 11:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So here's another question for you OGaga - mediation is designed to answer a question - so what's the question ?
What a load of tosh; Mediation requires the voluntary process requiring the consent of all parties involved, that would include the UK and the Falklanders giving their consent.
Feb 14th, 2012 - 11:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I somehow think that neither the UK or Falklanders will give their consent, and as its voluntary, and non-binding, and without prejudice anyway, not giving voluntary consent does not affect the position OR credibility of the UK or Falklander position.
What a waste of time, take the matter to the ICJ or PCA, at least there that can make a ruling, IF Argentina had the balls to accept the Courts Jurisdiction.
Again, unlikely Argentina has any balls.
@25 I think it was more to do with post-911 IRA funds collectors in the USA were being beaten-up rather than being applauded. Then there were those three IRA guys in Colombia uncomfortably turning it into international terror sponsored by Libya and USA. Once the USA pulled the plug on that for obvious reasons, no one in the IRA really had an appetite for robbing their local bank, neither were they very good at it.
Feb 14th, 2012 - 11:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Then everyone in Northern Ireland sat down to talk.
The question your lordship is abundantly clear.Who are the legitimate owners of the islands.
Feb 14th, 2012 - 11:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0First of, Argentina can ask what ever it wants, it can have the UN fool arbitrate if they requires that is there prerogative,
Feb 15th, 2012 - 12:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0BUT
Don’t be to upset when the British government says non, NON
Why,,,,, because it has no bases in law, and it does not include the Falklands people, the fact is, [and you will see ]
The British government will decline the offer; unless it goes to the ICJ do you Argies think Britain has just come of a banana boat ..please tell me your not that stupid,
ICJ or nothing,
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I think Britain should play along with this and go into talks. However the talks should include Falkland Islanders in person. If at this stage the RG's don't storm out the next stage of talks should be respecting the wishes of the Falkland Islanders. if the RG's don't storm out they should theoretically agree to an island referendum based on the UN principles of self determination. If by some miracle the RG's don't storm out and agree with this referendum then they can move on to discussing removing their claim from their constitution - after all Britain actually has no claim over the Falklands and if the islanders wish to stop being an overseas territory they can.
Feb 15th, 2012 - 12:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0@20 Gaga: “The question you need to ask is do the english government have any respect for the United Nations of which it is a security council member”.
Feb 15th, 2012 - 12:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0Gaga - The English Government is not a member of the UN Security Council, but the United Kingdom is a member. Please do not leave out Wales and Scotland - They don't like it!
“If one party resolves to demand what the other resolves to refuse, the dispute can be determined only by arbitration; and between powers who have no common superior, there is no other arbitrator than the sword”, Samuel Johnson.
Feb 15th, 2012 - 12:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0To the sword it is then.
O'Gaga - There you go making assumptions again.
Feb 15th, 2012 - 12:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0:-)
So the UN want to mediate - have they even set foot in the Falkland Islands? No... they went to Argentina, they visit London. They agree that there should be mediation - without talking to the people in the middle of this “custody battle”.. The world has gone mad.
Feb 15th, 2012 - 12:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0As for negotioation - we say that there is nothing to negotiate. However should the UN force the hand of the UK - we should have have the right to make our voices heard - 10 generations and still going strong.
I am sure that Argentina will cry foul - still there is always Sean Penn..... a wife beating, drug abusing, alcoholic peace ambassador...
So before there is any form of mediation or discussion - Argentina needs to recognise the people of the Falklands.. however if they do, the whole disagreement is blown out of the water.
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/
Feb 15th, 2012 - 12:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentine fury at MPs Falklands trip
MPs will visit the Falklands next month to inspect Britain’s military force, heightening tensions with Argentina before the 30th anniversary of the conflict. Confirmation of the visit by members of the Defense, Select Committee — the first of its kind in more than a decade
Now Argentina thinks it can tell us, who can, and who cant visit the islands,
I see you mediation is going well,
A pity then you seem to be conducting it yourself ..
link should open .
Argentina are way out of their depth.... the coming months will show this!
Feb 15th, 2012 - 12:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0This must now be a real ambarrassment to not only Argentina but everyone else watching what levels they are now stooping too. Its like watching a car crash.
Feb 15th, 2012 - 12:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0You are right Cestrian. It is like watching a car crash... in very slow motion!
Feb 15th, 2012 - 12:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0Mediation ?
Feb 15th, 2012 - 01:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://falklandsnews.wordpress.com/2012/02/15/mediation-over-militarization/
32 England may not be on the card in front of the spokesperson but just as in the days of the USSR nobody doubts who they really represent.You see the rest of the World recognize that Scotland and Wales are not only the nearest but oldest colonies of the city This UK stuff has as much credibility as the USSR.
Feb 15th, 2012 - 01:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0@40 I hope that Argentinian Slide-deck Amateur knows what is being mediated, because I for one haven't got a clue. Is he 'mediating' the Radar array or the type Destroyer now?
Feb 15th, 2012 - 01:10 am - Link - Report abuse 042 Lets be honest amigo you really dont have a clue about anything.Of all the boludos.on here espousing the Sun line you are in a level all on your own fot pelotuduces
Feb 15th, 2012 - 01:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0@43 Doesn't take a retard to know when someone does a crap presentation to the world full of messages like 'they've got a radar' and 'they can bomb south brazil'. Seriously, I can only imagine the journalists were wetting with laughter themselves watching that. Like, what is the motivation behind bombing brazil??
Feb 15th, 2012 - 01:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0An unprepared child with a crayon and a speech impediment could have done a more persuasive effort.
Excellent we will be bringing the Falkland islanders to the table as well....Oh that's not fair is it?
Feb 15th, 2012 - 01:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0O'gaga fuck off, nobodies is fooled by your walter mitty Irish charade anymore because your too bloody thick to even pretend. you're an Argie cunt from BA and you couldn't even pretend to be a genuine Bog trotter even if he smashed your back doors in and passed on his genetic material.
44 Well now really have lost it.
Feb 15th, 2012 - 01:35 am - Link - Report abuse 045 I am.rather proud of being accused by some of the city mob of being an Irishman who has never been to BA and by others such as the little Welsh collaborator of being a Porteño who has never been to Ireland.But one way or the other I will always hold in the utmost contempt gutless collaborators who prostitute themselves before the imperial master.
@23
Feb 15th, 2012 - 01:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0All gibberish as usual from toothless chav.
Well see if we don't have it. Enjoy it while it still last
As for Sir Roderick is just a random name , so i really couldn't care less what type of mediocre insult can come out of your mouth. :-)
Timerman cracks me up, he's a real character. Check him out on twitter @HTimerman
Feb 15th, 2012 - 03:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0https://twitter.com/#!/HTimerman
Did I miss something here? When did the UN offer to mediate? Last I saw was the UN simply saying bugger off and annoy someone else.....
Feb 15th, 2012 - 03:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0In the photo it looks like Twitman is showing off pics of his grandchildre... or maybe post op pics of KFC
It must be post-op pics of KFC!
Feb 15th, 2012 - 06:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0*****Caption competition time*****
Feb 15th, 2012 - 12:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Timerman: “And here's some photos that my private investigator took of you last week doing those things”
We can now see how this will play out.
Feb 15th, 2012 - 03:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Britain to Falklands: The UN says it will mediate if you want to negotiate.
Falklands to Britain: You mean argieland wants the UN to faff about on something it doesn't understand and never listens to us about?
Britain to Falklands: Basically, yes.
Falklands to Britain: Does this mean that argieland recognises that we exist as a people?
Britain to Falklands: Uh, no.
Falklands to Britain: Thank the UN for its efforts and ask it to tell argieland where to shove it. Sideways.
Britain to UN: The people of the Falkland Islands thanks you for your kind offer. They would ask you to advise the argies to take the appropriate action. Sideways. Her Majesty's government fully support this position against the local mendacious imperialist colonialists. As Her Majesty's government has said publicly - The Falkland Islands will be defended ROBUSTLY. And by that we mean, with EVERY capability at our disposal.
UN to argieland: We think the answer means that if you keep pushing, they will return you to the Stone Age.
@52 .. to the 'glass' age.
Feb 15th, 2012 - 05:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0IRON AGE
Feb 15th, 2012 - 07:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@53 Like it! Excerpt from well known British TV commercial for “Battlefield Tours”, “As you can see, this part of the ”battle“ field has the distinctive pink shade that indicates the previous location of the so-called ”Casa Roasada“. Except for the part in the middle that looks like melted plastic with a gaping hole in it. It is generally accepted that this is the remains of ”the last president“ before the area became part of the resurgent British Empire. There is no evidence of which part of the presidential anatomy the gaping hole represents. Some say it is her mouth. Others say she was last seen face down.”
Feb 15th, 2012 - 07:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Speak to hand, face no listen.
Feb 15th, 2012 - 09:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Should be a short meeting....
Feb 16th, 2012 - 12:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sean Penn WHO THE FUCK IS HE.!!!!
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