Falklands confused over Ushuaia decision to turn away cruise vessels
The Falkland Islands government and tourist industry admit to being confused and thus unable to comment in any great detail on the recent decision, apparently, by the Argentine provincial Government of Tierra del Fuego, turning away from Ushuaia two British flagged cruise ships earlier this week.
Mike Summers, who as Member of the Islands Legislative Assembly holds the Tourism portfolio, said on Thursday that the Falklands Government had been unable to establish where the decision to bar the vessels originated, and whether it had received national approval from the Cristina Fernandez administration.
“If it is a local issue” he said, “we will have to wait and see what their intentions are, but if it is a national issue then we will have to consider further.”
There was some speculation in the Islands on Wednesday that the last minute decision by the Veendam, another Holland America vessel, to cancel it’s Stanley visit might have been motivated by the action taken against its’ sister ships in Ushuaia.
However, Paul Trowell, General Manager of the Tourism Board, said that there was no evidence to suggest that.
“This has happened before with the Veendam. They get caught in bad weather sometimes – it happens.” Being a slower ship than some others, a spell of bad weather can lead them to cancel ports to avoid getting out of schedule.
Several years ago another ship, the Amsterdam, got caught in bad weather in Stanley and many hundreds of passengers were stranded in the town overnight. Residents accommodated all passengers but it has left some ships nervous of getting into that situation.
Trowell stated that as a man of the tourism industry, he felt sorry for the operators and tour providers in Ushuaia who have lost out on a lot of income in the interests of a politically motivated decision.
He added that the industry had forecast a 16% increase in cruise ship passengers landing in the Islands compared to last year but that cancels due to bad weather, has led to season taking very similar to last year.
“This hasn’t really affected us” said Trowell. “We will try and find out the facts and keep communicating with cruise companies for their plans, but at this point, from an industry point-of-view, we don’t have much to say about it.”
By Janet Roberston – SeAledPR - Stanley
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So the Veendam canceled?
How very strange!
First of many....
Feb 2012
“3000 people can not lead British foreign policy..”
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywrirqt-2Gc
Gaucho Rivero law gives the government the duty, right or possibility, call it how you like, to deny entry to the ports to any ship of British or convenience flag linked to the exploting of natural resources on the islands.
Now this whole mess started because Fabiana considered tourism to be a natural resource. As in Argentina tourism is not defined as one or the other, then it was up to her interpretation. She acted under law.
So because of this, we the Chamber of Tourism and also the Chamber of Commerce are taking the case to court so Justice rule wheter tourism is or not a natural resource.
George 'The Cat' Galloway is a well known looney leftwing nutter who works for such unbiased broadcasters such as Irans Press TV and bangs this particular drum whenever he gets the chance.
He was doing it again last night on Andrew Neils This Week and was well and truly shown up as an out of touch lightweight by not only Michael
'Spanish' Portillo but also by Alan Johnson who should have been agreeing with him.
I wonder whether Galloway uses the same weed as Roger Waters who asked the Chilean interviewer ' the islanders are British ,they have a point of view don't they'? His Argentine ticket sales are going well. If I were him I would forget about doing a tour of the UK or the Falklands for a while.
No serious artist would take the luxury of doing a tour, even 1 concert on the Islands. It's not economically worth it.
Arguing with a RG is like playing chess with a pigeon.
You could be the greatest player in the world, but the pigeon will still knock over all the pieces, shit on the board and strut around triumphantly.
AHAHAHAH lordy;uk is FINISHED!! Just stop liying and dreaming...
It must be comforting for CFK to be described as a beautiful and charming lady with whom he could settle the dispute in 5 minutes. Luckily for us, JG represents no one but himself
@12 Yep, the Falklands, like the UK is an Atlantic Island Nation, and they should be flying to South Africa or Africa more. Have less ties with the Latams and make friends with people who actually make some sense.
stop it, you're giving me uncontrollable giggles every time l think of your joke.
@14 GreekYoghurt,
Yes a weekend's shopping & coffee bars in Capetown sounds nice, right now.
Place: Cape town, Africa (Nice Place)
Main Airline: South African Airlines (good)
Flight Cost: ~£1000
Things to do: Have coffee, go see tigers and things, hang at the beach, have a nice time.
Place: Buenes Aires, South America (Not so nice)
Main Airline: Argentinian Plummet Airlines (V. Bad)
Flight Cost: 0.86p (Subsidized to kill off lan flight)
Things to do: Get mugged, Look at jewish people who like Peron-Hitler, Get stabbed, Get pushed under a train if you're brown (not white).
So, if I was the FIG I'd be lobbying for South African airlines to do a couple of flights and give you all a nice break in Africa looking at gazelles and stuff.
I would hope Falkland Island Air Defences are on a high, “shoot first, ask questions later” alert.
“It seems that most here are too young to remember the war, or even the commonly reported facts leading up to it. It also seems that the only things taught about it since is a one eyed propaganda story.
Here is what even the BBC would talk openly and honestly about at the time.
Only five extended families lived there before and during the war. They were sheep farmers and because of the remote position, their mutton and wool was far too expensive to pick up. England organised ships to pick up the products, in effect subsidising the Falklanders unproductive lifestyle farms.
No one wanted the pathetic chunk of dirt. The Iron Lady tried to give it to Argentina. Argentina refused. A year later Argentina believed a small propaganda coup was possible by annexing them peacefully and claiming victory over England as England would not defend it as they wanted to be rid of the place.
The Iron Lady desperately wanted a propaganda coup herself, and beating Argentina in a spat war was the perfect opportunity, believing that no or few losses would result. They even sent a Royal to heighten the propaganda frenzy. They lost two warships including a troop carrier filled with troops. It was only a matter of luck that the Royal was not onboard. They immediately withdrew the Royal.
England sent more ships. Only possible because the Commonwealth sent spare ships to patrol the waters the English ships patrolled.
Through force of numbers, England pushed the tiny number of Argentinian forces out.
At the time there was a lot of support on the Falklands for Argentinian rule. That support has continued for the following decades. Only recently, after a large number of English military has been stationed there has the ”opinion polls“ changed. Interesting since the Military now outnumber the tiny number of farmers”.
Isn't it just precious ? All that is missing is “and they all lived happy ever after”.
It's the bed time story Argentinians tell their children to prevent them growing up to realise what evil losers their parents were.
I used to watch RT for a laugh but it was just too mindbendy for any serious watching.
www.clarin.com/espectaculos/musica/Malvinas-Morrissey-Roger_Waters_0_656334551.html
Washed-Up Morrissey: Still Racist, Still Worshiped
Besides the depressing fact that Morrissey still makes music, he always gets a pass for making racist remarks just because he's Morrissey. He's back at it in a new interview with Guardian Weekend, where he calls Chinese people “a subspecies.”
Argentina is still on form then.
Well some they say is about selling tickets, I am not sure about Morrisey but Roger is going to have 9 concerts in Buenos Aires with over three hundred thousands tickets solds before he made the comment “Malvinas belong to Argentina”
I wonder who the next cult of celebrity figure will be begging for tickets in exchange for abandoning the FIslanders?
In 2009 he abandoned a stage at the Coachella Festival in California because of the smell of cooking meat.
Morrissey has been vegetarian since he was 11 years old. He has explained his vegetarianism by saying “If you love animals, obviously it doesn't make sense to hurt them.”[101] Morrissey is an advocate for animal rights and a supporter of People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA). In recognition of his support, PETA honoured him with the Linda McCartney Memorial Award at their 25th Anniversary Gala on 10 September 2005.[102]
In January 2006, Morrissey attracted criticism when he stated that he accepts the motives behind the militant tactics of the Animal Rights Militia, saying “I understand why fur-farmers and so-called laboratory scientists are repaid with violence—it is because they deal in violence themselves and it's the only language they understand.”[103]
Morrissey has criticised people who are involved in the promotion of eating meat,
He seems a rather unsavoury character from what I read, I then listened to a video on youtube of him singing “Moon River” The comments on his rendition were glowing. After 30 seconds I realised that he was singing “off key” in parts of the song. Why in heaven's name does anyone think his pronouncements are of tremendous importance. Of course he is going to say what he did in front of an audience in Argentina. He would have been lynched if he had said otherwise. His opinion is worth no more or less than any other person on this forum. Now, if it had been Nelson Mandela............
So if he hates meat so much, why is he in Argentina? Doesn't he know they eat more meat than any other nation? Morrihypocrisey?
He probably hates the falklands because you make lamb.
I suggest you apologise. Long live the Falkland Islands, WITHOUT bigots.
Mr Cameron is probably enjoying a nice cup of tea with a smirk on his face waiting for the next circus act from Cristina and her cronies.
Where´s Marcos, sitting in front of his computer writing horse shite comments as per usual...
Let me spell it out to you, in easy words. Peron was a big fan of Hitler, and most of his ideologies came from N. Bonaparte, Hitler and Mussolini. They all believe that they are a part of a supreme master race. Kind of like the Ashkenazi and Sephardi Jews believe that 'Goyim' are donkeys that only exist for their pleasure and slavery. So, we have the Jews thinking that they're a master race, we have the Argentinians thinking they're a master race, etcetera etcetera. The irony is that Hitler wanted to exterminate all the jews, and now argentinian jews are following his ideology, rebranded as peronism.
So, that's irony. It's not racism, it's not bigotry it's just basic irony.
Viva la Revolution!
Not really Brit, he is crying in TV about something inappropiate he did with a horse...“Mounting” pressure on Cameron?
Hey, look at the massive plonker on that old horse!
a bit like those nuns doing a bungee jump,
She has been to FI recently and is down to visit again this year. www.polarcruises.com/antarctica/tours/ushuaia_8/falklands-south_120.htm
So argentina has screwed with 2% of the FI cruise trade.... its a simple matter for the Islands to screw 100% of theirs......
Wheter or not Rios and Kirchner are political “friends”, TDF government can take some desicions without asking the federal government.
As it was said, Rios aplied the “Gaucho Rivero” law. It talks about natural resources and it explotation, but she interpreted that tourism was a natural resource, so the tourism businessmen took the case to court. It will decide.
24 hours BEFORE her arrival monning at Stanley she was still 600miles north of the Islands battling her way through a freak storm with 12mtr waves(36feet).
To reach Stanley on schedule she would have to have steamed at 30knots through 36ft seas! Either the ship would have shook to bits - passengers mutinied - or if neither happened the Captain would have been sacked when his Accountants got the fuel bill.
Nothing at all to do with any S American turnip lady!
@49 Thanks for the clarification...el thicko talking non sense again....
Ulster and Scotland are in the UK. The Elgin Marbles have nothing to do with anything. What's arrogance got to do with Gibraltar? Spain has far more 'enclaves' and Gibraltar is self-governing, unlike the Spanish areas.
You really need to sit down, take a breath and then start again.
www.ilmanifesto.it/
www.lefigaro.fr/
elpais.com/
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welsh_language
where u could find that in Argentina u can learn welsh (due to welsh immigration in Argentina and welsh schools).
Joaquín Sabina - WHOOOOO???
Juan Manuel Serrat - WHOOOOOOOOOOO???
Robert Fripp - WHOOOOO???
Peter Gabriel - Not done a good song in years, probably desperate for cash.
Ian Anderson - WHOOOOOOO???
Bono Vox - WHOOOOOOOOOO???
...that's all I have to say on the issue. Any more retired D-list 1970s pop stars to add to the list?
They all support Argentina- Garry Glitter, Chas n Dave, Mr Blobby, The Wurzels........
There is no hope. We're doomed.
I had an argument with a girl I know last night. She was saying how that it's unfair that if a guy f@#ks a different girl every week, he's a legend, but if a girl f@#ks just two guys in a year, she's a slut.
So in response I told her that if a key opens lots of locks, then it's a master key. But if a lock is opened by lots of keys, then it's a shitty lock.
That shut her up.
Bono Vox = U2
Ian Anderson =Jetro Tull
Robert Fripp = King Crimson
Serrat and Sabina = Most Famous Spain Singers!!!
Ion Anderson = YES
Peter Gabriel = GENESIS
Does he like anything? He should be well at home in Argentina! He can whine away with his Argie friends about the Malvinas. It'll be a constant drone.
regardless of whether they were in succesful bands or not, they are the same as the rest of us and have an opinion. because they are or have been famous, just means that their opinions are publicised. Doesnt mean they are right or wrong!
However it is sad that the RG's put so much weight on it! I personally think even if the above list of artists put on a “pro malvina concert”, the only place they would get a good audience would be in RGland. So put them into actual practise and i think you would be able to see is how irrelevant they are to the arguement.
I have learned to take your statements with a ”pinch of salt”
I still remember you ansvering me that a Medevac from Stanley to London costed about 1500£ !
I dont know them, but if they come here and put 2 days before a show all day on TV an easy verse of their song that people can sing (ex ”you are beautiful, you are beautiful, you are beautiful...to me, nara nanna -the rest I dont remember neither understand) the generous people of this country will go to their shows and they will make a lot of money!!
then enjoy the islands for a couple more years, after that I hope the Argentinian government deport and send back to uk all you islanders, cos we don t like KELPERS or second category Uk. again second cayegory mean GARBAGE .
My best wishes Kelpers:Garbage
I completely believe you. My prediction is that you will see a steady procession of failed and ancient pop singers turning up in Argentina now that they know what to say to sell a few tickets.
72 GreekYoghurt
He's probably a British troll ( 71 pepegalleta). The more ludicrously over the top and brainless ones usually are. Shouldn't be fed at any rate.
And a few washed up indocronoughts thrown in for the fun,
The fact is, they have more chance of mass 40 million suicides, that they have of ever getting the British Falklands, so dream on dreamers lol.
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Perhaps he needed to look for a job in Kermadeck Island!
Pepegalleta, ur comment is redundant and stos son de terror son (cerebroless).
Aguante lo Redondo!!!
Are you argentinians even capable of original thought? You can't even get the vocabulary right when you accuse people of piracy.
very weak.
There is a TV chanel in the island?,
Again Greek youghurt GET A LIFE
l think you've just been told to improve your lifestyle!
And he would know. ha ha ha
esta gente vive en otro planeta
[estamos Borg, la resistencia es inútil. ]
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no viven en las islas debe ser el lugar mas aburrido del mundo para vivir
pobrecitos
@39 ynsere -
How is “ Look at jewish people who like Peron-Hitler” anti- Semitic ?
I take it as, like turkeys voting for Christmas, because Argentina is strange twisted place
Or is this just more Argentinian intimidation ?
Peron brought to Argentina a lot of nazis but he never did anything against jewish people and remember Israel helped a lot the Argentinian de facto government in 82.
Argentina has a lot jewish people.
anti jewish people are all over the world not only in Argentina, I am in US and here there is a lot nazis too
So his remark wasn't anti-Semitic was it and as Peron had brought nazis to Argentina, just because they didn't do anything to the Jews, as they had done in Germany, it could have been naive of them to think it couldn't change.
I suggest you apologise to GreekYoghurt.
Plus Argentina is the number 3 larger jewish population in the world
Greekyoghurt is offensive I don t think I owe him apologise.
You are smarter than him that is way I apologised to you before
Salute
is there anything else to speak off ..
Well adk here in US , if you want to be a president you need the latino voto, 18%!latino citizens and mostly soanish speaken. Now is the spanish important or not, Why in Malvinas school are teaching spanish?, the islandas are in south atlantic where almost all states the spanish is the lenguage, what kind of neighbours are or want to be, it doesn t matter what happen.
I don t think is a bad idea to the islanders to learn how speak spanish as a second lenguage do you?
About the spanish again, in the US government every year there is more latino Senators, delegates, plus latinos in the presidential cabinet, that is why republicans wants to deport and limetd the avility to latinos to drive, to work, ilegal people here is facen a very bad time, if you read and wants I recomended to you to read about what is happening in Arizona, the goverbment of Arizona is like the nazi regiment, horrible, the only difference is that are not gas chambers. ilegals kids doesn t have the right to go to school, not state healtcare, plus a real persucution, the police has the right to stop you if he think you are ilegal, perhaps, most of the ilegal inmigration comes from Mexico and are really white, that is the motive to stop this people and then deport the poir guy, but there is a lot mire, read about it.
salute
You answer your own dilemma and don’t seem to be aware of it or don’t care:
“US government every year there is more latino Senators, delegates, plus latinos in the presidential cabinet, that is why republicans wants to deport and limetd the avility to latinos to drive, to work”…….
“ilegals kids doesn t have the right to go to school, not state healtcare, plus a real persucution, the police has the right to stop you if he think you are ilegal, perhaps, most of the ilegal inmigration comes from Mexico and are really white, that is the motive to stop this people and then deport the poir guy, but there is a lot mire, read about it.”
The poor guys? They shouldn’t be trying to get into the USA, your instinct is to take over everywhere, of course illegals have NO rights in the USA, except to go back to where they came from and sort their own country out so they don’t want to leave.
I don't need any familiarisation on immigration issues, I see with my own eyes what happens, firstly you allow or invite unskilled people into the country to do those jobs we find difficult to fill, only to find that many are not very good at them, always looking for ways to avoid doing them properly. Bad enough but it gets worse, as these people have lots of children, many of which don’t do well at school, but will not do those same types of jobs and just want to live on benefits or either turn to crime/drugs, or want to change society into that, which caused their parents to come to the country in the first place.
I’ve gone politically from leftish to right, because you can lead someone drink but you cannot make them drink it.
OK that’s their choice, BUT no benefits, (it’s not what they are for) or anything else, I’m not paying to keep them. If they commit any crime it’s a one way ticket to where their parents came from.
So I can completely understand Arizona and Alabama etc. attitudes.
So no doubt we are ideologically apposed.
You make a very good point, this is the USA's dilemma, let more in to continue with one generation of cheap labour and land up like Mexico, or stop them coming and do away with the false American dream.
America initially wanted the immigrants as comsumers but they didn't close the door when they should have because of having to get elected and because people always want more. They have created their own downfall.
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