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Montevideo, November 15th 2018 - 19:35 UTC
The European Union and Mercosur concluded Friday in Brussels the eighth round of negotiations for a free trade agreement with the commitment to begin exchanging market access proposals at the next meeting. Read full article
25 billion dollars annually for both sides
her presence caused certain disappointment among the group’s delegates
I'm sure that's how they all feel when *anyone* from Argentina shows up.
@2 I had an argentinian turn up to a party once. Flat out ruined the evening. FACT.
Especially the clothes horse that is Debora Giorgi.
This could be an opportunity for the major female fashion houses to launch a range of pretty paper bags. We ALL know the old joke about paper bags, don't we? :o)
Speaking from a British point of view, do we actually want a free trade agreement with a group of countries that includes a country that is not only an enemy but also has no idea of how to comply with agreements?
@5 technically no, but the rest of europe includes places like Spain, who is basically Argentina's gimp-pet, so we only have so much of a say in it. We certainly don't want bilateral free trade, and certainly don't want to give them any kind of credit.
Argentinians; they know not property nor contract law.
@5. Yes. If a free trade agreement exists between Mercosur and the EU then any sanctions against the Falklands/UK by Argentina automatically become sanctions against the EU, therefore exposing the entire Mercosur group to reciprocal action from the EU. How much support is going to be on offer from Mercosur members when their economies start suffering due to unilateral actions by Argentina?
Shall we all agree, here and now, not to purchase any argie goods or produce? And actively persuade everyone else not to do so either. No argie goods or produce in Britain.
@8 I'm not convinced we get a lot of stuff from Argentina, as I cannot remember drinking soy oil in a while.
'Argentina's sovereign rating is heavily constrained by inconsistent policies that have accelerated inflation and economic volativity', Fitch says.
Hence the Malvinas smokescreen let loose on a gullible population to hide away economic ineptitude being carried out by the currupt immoral political elete.
Danny B - you are being duped - why don't you do something about it?
We still have the technical issues of intellectual property rights to address - and no meeting of minds.
And Irish and French farming lobbies to accommodate.
So a huge and complex trading bloc agreement, and a terrible asymmetry between the high-level protocols of the EU and the under-developed protocols of Mercosur.
And on top of all that, Argentina can destroy the work done on behalf of over thirty nations of the world, and destroy any agreement 'just because it can' and because it only ever thinks of itself.
@11 Argentina only thinks about itself because it's peronist country and Argentina knows only peronist countries are good and do well.
Good to see the EU and Mercosur doing business.Anything that helps out Latin America is GOOD news.
Argentina only things about itself
Hahaha... I would like some of you to list me the instances when a country has done something in its policy (specifically economics and trade), that did not have as a goal to look out for itself.
I await with a cup of cholocate and a retirement account.
Argentine minister of Industry Debora Giorgi joined the talks on Thursday, since Argentina has the Mercosur rotating chair, but her presence caused certain disappointment among the group’s delegates since the talks at these rounds are usually at technical and not at political level.
Yet again Argentina show themselves up in an international arena.
My cup of chocolate ran out. I hope pension money doesn't.
Hi Mohammeds AuuuuuZZzzzzzzzzz goodmorning I mean noon Ah! little bit tired from yesterday party. AhhhZzzzzz well nothing interesting to reply on.
Watching from my window no sign of war, no Tomahawks flying in, no turbans around, none threatening to impose Shaira Law, still a western free country. Everything seems to be ok so.
tobias (#14) re. “Argentina only thinks about itself”
”I would like some of you to list me the instances when a country has done something in its policy (specifically economics and trade), that did not have as a goal to look out for itself.”
Politics and trade are arts of the possible. Trading blocs and supra-national unions frequently arrive at arrangement that are sub-optimal to one party or other - for the better good of the group. Trade-offs and compensations are the stuff of such compromises.
Germany and Greece are currently doing this within the Eurozone....
England funds Scotland disproportionately from taxes...
England gave up 'its' coastal seas fisheries when it joined the EU..
Argentina's issue is that it refuses to see the bigger picture and always appears to act selfishly in its own narrow and immediate interest.
Mercosur can never succeed with such a member.
France and Ireland will block this nonsense.
UK doesn't need to get its hands dirty.
“Argentina's issue is that it refuses to see the bigger picture and always appears to act selfishly in its own narrow and immediate interest.
Mercosur can never succeed with such a member.”
Ha ha this is funny coming from someone that claims to be British.
Britain isolated by her veto
I see your point, Danny,
but the UK is outside the Eurozone, and the Eurozone interests run in parallel with those of the EU, they don't define them.
The UK has been cripplingly addressing the same financial stability issues in parallel with the EU to address the global problem through the world money markets.
Too unforgivably late, yes, but too unforgivably late along with the rest of the world.
Cristina Fernández de Kirchner the current disaster president of Argentina
and the other Argentina crooks are her vice-president, Amado Boudou, he is actually an owner of the company that prints money for the government in Argentina, a major conflict of interest, but he denies it, he owns the company in the names of other friends and associates. He is being investigated and surely will end up in jail where he belongs. Cristinas 2 VERY UGLY children, Maximo and Florencia Kirchner, are also very corrupt. Maximo owns all kinds of hotels and properties adn Florencia is a film student in New York and lives in a luxury Park Avenue apartment and is known for major cocaine use. Some of us who know her in New York remember how she always used to tell us how her parents have a bank account drawn on the Nation of Argentina and for her family money is no object. These 2 corrupt children of Cristina Kirchner are self proclaimed “militants”, they belong to 2 internal terrorist groups which Cristina Kirchner finances, “La Cámpora” and “Quebracho”. “La Cámpora” goes around to the poor shantytowns around the cities in Argentina and gives the poor people a bag of groceries, a sausage sandwich called “choripan” and $20 pesos to buy their votes. These people have no choice but to accept this as they are extremely poor and have no other hope. “Quebracho” is a terrorist group which Cristina Kirchner pays to protect her, they disguise their faces and go around shaking down businesses to get money and give back to the president. They are also responsible for drug dealing, robberies and murders.
Argentina doesn't need a failed union (EU) and a tumbling raft boat with no propeller along side that sinking ship (UK). EU and UK need us more than we need them, and Mercosur needs Argentina more than we need Mercosur. Which is why the EU and MERCOSUR will accomodate Argentina into whatever we want.
Argentina just needs regular trade with other countries, tobias.
The EU just gives it access to the world's biggest marketplace.
If it doesn't deal with the EU, then there are other places.
The EU - either jointly or severally - will deal with Brasil and Uruguay.
Mercosur will collapse;
Argentina will deal with Brasil, but - as their economy collapses - on Brasil's terms;
Paraguay will join the basket-case group as there is nowhere else for them to go;
B.A. will survive by depriving the rest of Argentina and by resorting, yet again, to military control;
Mercosur will be a missed opportunity and Parlasur will be gently forgotten leaving Brasil to contemplate 'what might have been'.
Oh, such a trail of continental damage from one country whose government got it all so horribly, horribly, wrong.
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