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Argentina targets Mexican car imports and considers revoking trade agreement

Sunday, April 1st 2012 - 08:02 UTC
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Argentina is considering applying measures to restrict the import of Mexican cars, which could include unilaterally denouncing the Economic Complementation Agreement (ACE) 55, which regulates bilateral trade, Argentine government sources told local media, ámbito.com. Read full article

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  • GreekYoghurt

    KFC: “down and down the hole I go. Where does it stop? Nobody knows!”

    Apr 01st, 2012 - 09:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DJ56

    Crazy politics - do they have ANY friends?

    Apr 01st, 2012 - 10:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @2 North Korea, Israel and Iran. In no particular order.

    Apr 01st, 2012 - 10:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Britninja

    Jeebus, the stress of all these nutty government ideas must be getting to Giorgi - she looks worse in every photo. I predict that by next week she'll look like the one in Exorcist.

    Apr 01st, 2012 - 12:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brit Bob

    The economics of a banana republic.

    Apr 01st, 2012 - 12:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Alexei

    This is impotent Argentina on a popularity drive, when they're trying to put on a friendly face to gain friends and influence. Imagine how unpleasant they'd be if they thought they had serious wealth and influence.

    A few years back they threatened not to buy cars assembled in Brazil. The Brazilian government just ignored the threat, knowing that Argentina couldn't get them cheaper from anywhere else. Of course the blustering Argies just backed down. Same old, same old...

    Apr 01st, 2012 - 01:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Truth_Telling_Troll

    Alexei, this is why you will never have peace, nor the Falklanders nor the rest of the world will. The world thinks they can threatene us with their cheating tactics, we strike back. And the world has done nothing for years because they can't do anything against us.

    Apr 01st, 2012 - 01:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @7 We'll see how you do in a few years after your desired economic isolation when you're all eating bark soup and praying to massive bronze statues of maximo.

    See how the world deals with cheats like Argentina then.

    Apr 01st, 2012 - 01:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Truth_Telling_Troll

    Argentina grows food, like wheat. Like oats.

    Like corn. Milk and cows. Apples, berries in the the south, bananas in the north.

    No bark tree soup when we get rid of you in the rest of the world, the real cheaters as Argentina exposed last night:

    USA: 114 complaints of trade barriers to WTO
    EU: 70
    ARG: 17

    LOL... Cheaters and liars.

    Apr 01st, 2012 - 01:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @9 It's more about their ability to align with the rules of free trade that the WTO is supposed to represent. They seem to be completely ideologically opposed to the letter and the meaning of the WTO/G20.

    It's the same in the UN. They sign the charter and then announce that they're ideologically and constitutionally opposed to Self-determination. That's one of the key aspects of the UN, and Argentina doesn't agree with it.

    Makes you wonder why they're even in any of these organisations to begin with. Better that they're not, and just get busy with their bark soup.

    Apr 01st, 2012 - 01:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Truth_Telling_Troll

    @10

    Maybe we have nukes after all, who knows. Everyone seems to wonder why Argentina gets away with so much from the whole world. Maybe 2001 showed that it could get a bit dangerous if things really went downhill and then the nukes could be unguarded. Otherwise why would Argentina not wace WTO, UN, Mercosur, US, EU sanctions in the face of such blatant abrogation of treaties left and right with all nations of the world (even Mexico now).

    Seems like a plausible theory. That's why nukes are so important. You don't need to be able to deliver them, you just need to have them. Look how the world now tip toes with Pakistan even though they hid Bin laden for 10 years. If they had no nukes, US and EU would have bombed them to hell like Afghanistan.

    But since the US EU UK only pick on the weak, they are safe.

    Apr 01st, 2012 - 01:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @11 You're all simply too lazy to figure out how to do that. You spend all your time standing in fields in the Falklands crying over your flag, screaming 'it belongs to us' and then gluing 'the islands are ours' plaques under rocks like I saw on a recent bit of Argsoc propaganda, where clearly those plaques would be chipped off the next day.

    I find your antics petty, but hilarious. Get cooking your bark soup.

    Apr 01st, 2012 - 01:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • jerry

    He would start cooking his bark soup, but there is a gas shortage, and he also ran out of flint and steel.

    Apr 01st, 2012 - 02:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Truth_Telling_Troll

    Well, then either you all are cowards in the rest of the world for not standing up to Argentina for years and years, or we have nukes. There is no other alternative to why Argentina gets away with it all, even CFK making all the leaders late for a G20 photo and the other leaders doing nothing about it.

    Apr 01st, 2012 - 02:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @14 She probably had to take some meds, and her hand was shaking wildly and the pills went over the bathroom floor, and she had to kneel down to pick them all up... you know how it is.

    Apr 01st, 2012 - 02:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @14 Argentina is just not very important. It is a mild irritant on the arse of the world' that's all.

    Apr 01st, 2012 - 02:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Truth_Telling_Troll

    @16

    Good, then that means our trade barriers won't affect you, which must mean this whole deal is just as CFK says, a deflection from your severe internal problems. Otherwise the big fuss over a mild irritant with so many nations actually COORDINATING to denounce us (that takes some behind the scenes and major time from officials), makes no sense.

    Wag da dog.

    Apr 01st, 2012 - 02:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @17 Hmm... you're going to love that Bark soup. It's just so tasty with a few leaves.

    Apr 01st, 2012 - 03:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @17 You misunderstand. The world looked the other way (or did not even notice) when the rug was pulled on Argentina 10 short years ago. No one rushed to help you when people were rioting and looting and starving. Your country was absolutely broken.

    Your country had been let back into the fold - your President wants to be part of these organisations and is happy to attend anywhere she gets her photograph taken with true world leaders - but still you do not play by the rules of the club. I know that you think this is the Argentine way (It is not unique; you imported it from southern Italy) but it is adolescent behaviour. The denouncements are a way of the world acknowledging that you have learned nothing from the terrible situation you endured ten years ago and that you are heading that way again. It is like watching someone self-mutilate; only the Argentine people will suffer.

    Apr 01st, 2012 - 03:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Truth_Telling_Troll

    So what do you care about an insignificant country? Leave us alone! We don't want your opinions nor your advice. Forget about us and stay in happy, prosperous, ful-employment Britain. :)

    The riots in 2001 were political, sorry, a peronist ploy. Everyone in Argentina knows that but since you don't really talk to argentines you wound't know that would you.

    Apr 01st, 2012 - 03:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @19 I couldn't have said it better myself. Congratulations on your fine literacy skills.

    Apr 01st, 2012 - 03:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @ 20 You think you speak for 40million people? Wow, that is one huge and delicate ego you have there.

    My work will continue to take me to Argenina for regular.long visits and there is nothing you can do about it. It is my business to know what is going on in Argentina.

    Fortunately, the majority of Argenines are not like you. They are welcoming and willing to talk to me about the failings of their government, their worries about inflation and corruption, their falling living standards and very real worry about the impending economic collapse. When I left there two days ago the growing feeling was that the country was better under military rule. They are proud people and their government continually humiliating them does not sit well.

    Apr 01st, 2012 - 03:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Truth_Telling_Troll

    Well, unless your work is almst and charity, then Argentina can't be doing so badly if you keep coming back or are sent back by your boss. Make up your mind, Elaine. :)

    Or maybe all your trilingual British friends can translate what I just said from my simple english.

    Apr 01st, 2012 - 03:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @23 LOL! You are so eaten up with bitterness and jealousy. The poison drips from your words. Your government has driven your economy off a cliff and it is free-falling to the bottom. You may as well enjoy the ride.

    I don't do business in Argentina (I would not recommend it either).

    Apr 01st, 2012 - 04:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • estg

    Becasue the responsible of all our trade issues is the rest of the world, not our gov´s senseless policies.

    So common: blame the other´s for you own faults. That surely will work for ever.

    Apr 01st, 2012 - 05:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Truth_Telling_Troll

    @24

    So are you Elaine, bitter and sour, and acrid, and caustic, and corrosive, and any other similar terminology. There is a saying in Spanish which for there is no English translation, I have looked:

    “Dime lo que presumes y te diré lo que careces”.

    Literal translation: “Tell me what you boast of and I'll let you know what you are lacking”

    You always are belittling Argentina as insignificant, almost trying too hard while at it.

    Sure it's no superpower but it is a regional power and still in spite of all and all amazingly one of the 20 largest economies or so out of 180 plus countries... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)

    Remember 10 years ago the UK was 5 and Argentina 33 in GDP. Now UK is 8th (India, Russia, and Brazil overtaking it), so from almost 20 places the difference is now down to 12.

    Never said anything good about Argentina, you tell me who is bitter (and worse of all, since by your own argument you shoudn't have to be since what could you be jealous about?)

    Apr 01st, 2012 - 05:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @26 You poor victim. Go tell your Mama I was nasty to you. LOL!

    I have plenty of good things to say about Argentina and most of the Argentines I meet. You fail to understand that we are here to debate the stories posted, not spread propaganda for your government. I have absolutely nothing good to say about CFKC and her dangerous brand of dictatorship. She is stark raving bonkers and should not be allowed to ruin the lives of millions of Argentines.

    Apr 01st, 2012 - 06:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Fido Dido

    Argentina is doing the same tricks as what Europe is doing for years. The so called west wich is broke is desperate to export itself out of this mess to other growing developing nations, but but but, don't accept their games, what is logic. When the same cheaters are barking, you know there is a problem.

    Apr 01st, 2012 - 06:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • estg

    @ 27 ElaineB:

    I absolutely agree with you.

    Apr 01st, 2012 - 06:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Truth_Telling_Troll

    @27

    You know, let me be blunt and harsh about it:

    The only people that will be ruined in Argentina are the morons that voted for her on the basis of them getting free stuff and services from her, and soon will not be able to get anything from her no longer. By that I am making a fine and subtle distinction: some middle class and others voted for her based on other things like the government's debt reduction and their commitment to restoring local science (for example, I completely approve of that). But since I loathe the peronist apparatus I did not vote for her on that basis.

    The middle class mostly works in jobs in the private sector who get their salaries adjusted for inflation, and of course the upper class has investments overseas which hedges them. It is the poor that work in the public sector or have become used to things like Planes Descansar that will suffer.

    So what is interesting is that many here blast the poor but in fact they are the ones that were duped by CFK but more importantly, should have known better since this happened before to them. Honestly, I have no sympathy for those that did.

    Apr 01st, 2012 - 06:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Frank

    @ 26 Literal translation: “Tell me what you boast of and I'll let you know what you are lacking”

    Aren't you the one boasting a while back about how very intelligent you were??

    Apr 01st, 2012 - 07:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    There is a saying in Spanish, which is “sólo la gente pobre habla español”.

    You can tell he's Le Camping because he's using their usual playground rule of repeating what you just said to them.

    Le Camping Rule 4.34.22 “If someone says something offensive to you then just repeat exactly what they said in the next comment”

    Then he tries to distract everyone by focusing on the UK when the question was about Argentina.

    Typical Le Camping Faggotry.

    Apr 01st, 2012 - 07:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @30 So in your opinion it is fine for the poor to go hungry and the middle-classes to lose everything they worked for? (I agree the rich will always be rich because they do not keep their money in Argentina). That is harsh when only one third of Argentines eligible to vote actually voted for CFKC.

    No one is immune when a country crashes; not even you. CFKC has no idea how to run the economy and her pea-brain ideas are child-like. I will take no pleasure watching Argentina implode again. I have good friends there and they are very worried about the future. The writing is on the wall.

    Apr 01st, 2012 - 07:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @33 When Argentina implodes, can we send some ships to save the nice people?
    Might only need a small sailing dinghy then.

    Apr 01st, 2012 - 08:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @34 LOL! There are more than you imagine. : )

    Sure there are the stupid, brainwashed, unwashed that would follow a whiff of hope (and a free microwave) anywhere.

    There are the English haters (British is rarely used) who are convinced we are responsible for all the ills of their country. Peron decided the English made great villains because a) we were successful in Argentina and b) we would have questioned the ideals of fascist Peronism.

    They have a different cultural code that worships wealth and beauty, and applauds anyone who cheats the system. It is imported from the South of Italy. They like the idea of laws but don't think they apply to them personally. They want good education, infrastructure, health care etc. but will do anything to avoid paying tax that might pay for it. (I say might because they know most taxes will be stolen by officials).

    But, here is the thing, most of the people I meet are good people. They want what we want and despair at the antics of their government and the corrupt police force. (I could tell you some real horror stories about the police).

    So, generally I like Argentines and Argentina but DESPISE the government and the corrupt system that feeds the greedy bastardos running the country and will keep the country in chaos. And I could never live there; I have a different moral code.

    Apr 01st, 2012 - 09:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Frank

    @9 TiT 'Argentina grows food, like wheat. Like oats. Like corn. Milk and cows.'

    Like in 2010/11 when butter disappeared from the BA supermercado shelves and the biggest dairy farm in BA province got out of the business because due to government interference they couldn't make a quid....

    Apr 01st, 2012 - 09:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Truth_Telling_Troll

    “They have a different cultural code that worships wealth”

    Sorry that is the Anglo-saxon moral code. If you have more money, you are better. It is on display here every day.

    A lot of the poor aren't even Argentine, they are immigants that came here and had 10 kids. Then they go squat at Parque Indoamericano demanding for “housing” .... Quoting a famous quote from that incident:

    “All we want is a house, we won't leave this park till we get a house. When the government gives us one, the we will leave and I can go back to my HOUSE.”

    Like it or not, there are millions of illegals in Argentina and are a big reason the poverty rate is higher than it should be for the country. We import the poverty of the rest of South America. They demand housing, hospitals, subsidies, etc...

    They are illegals and demand... it got to the point that even Evo Morales (an honorable man), told the squatters of Bolivian origin it is not fair that they go to another country and take land in a park like that. The Paraguayan and Peruvian presidents then said something similar.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBoBYLdVOBc

    Apr 01st, 2012 - 10:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • estg

    @ 35:
    You´re my new hero here at MPress.
    I´d like to point, just to complete your words, that the average Argentine has no personal issues neither with Britain nor wiwth the British people who visit our country, and that forunately most of the young & educated people simply wants this issue to be got over, and to move on.
    Thanks for your words, Mrs, It´s very refreshing to see so much common sense :)

    Apr 01st, 2012 - 10:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    20 Truth_Telling_Troll (#)
    So what do you care about an insignificant country? Leave us alone

    [then leave the innocent Falklands alone then ]

    23 Truth_Telling_Troll (#) Apr 01st, 2012 - 03:56 pm Report abuse
    Or maybe all your trilingual British friends can translate what I just said from my simple English.

    [Yes, you speak with fork tongue]

    30 Truth_Telling_Troll

    The only people that will be ruined in Argentina are the morons that voted for her
    [ here you speak with straight tongue ]

    CFK bad lady,

    Apr 01st, 2012 - 11:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • brit abroad

    truth tellling tit:

    You really are a brilliant dog turd of epic propotions.

    Apr 02nd, 2012 - 05:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Skåre

    Argentina revoking yet another agreement?

    Amidst a mounting pile of evidence that Argentina can't get very much right, you certainly can't deny that they aren't spectacularly good at revoking agreements that they entered in to of their own free will.

    Is there any wonder that there isn't a single country anywhere in the world that trusts Argentina or the declared intentions of its government?

    Apr 02nd, 2012 - 06:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    Is anyone else thinking that photo-lady's face has been stuck to someone elses using pritt-stick and the stickiness of the glue is beginning to wear off.

    Apr 02nd, 2012 - 08:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Alexei

    @9 Truth Twisting Troll

    “Argentina grows food... ”

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-12973543

    Apr 02nd, 2012 - 09:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • toooldtodieyoung

    42 GreekYoghurt

    Here is one lady who could do with the “Chelsea Face-lift” or did they just go to the nearest grave yard and dig up someone's grandma?

    Apr 02nd, 2012 - 10:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    We now have the truth, insofar as it relates to the Mexican car imports, that Argentina had a 1BnUSD HOLE in12 months of trade.

    How can that possibly be when all the stupid Malvanistas were claiming exports were saving the country?

    I think panic is really setting in at the top. Wait for Giorgi to put in her resignation, if she has any sense.

    Apr 02nd, 2012 - 11:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Fred

    I don't see any relation to Falklands issue and honestly Argentina is doing the same procedure as Brazil to this agreement with Mexico. Basically NAFTA cars are just more competitive than MERCOSUR ones. They are cheaper and better. So that an agreement with Mexico in this area is just dumbness. I support Argentina in this case.

    Apr 02nd, 2012 - 02:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • jerry

    #37 - “Like it or not, there are millions of illegals in Argentina and are a big reason the poverty rate is higher than it should be for the country. We import the poverty of the rest of South America. They demand housing, hospitals, subsidies, etc...” - At last you wrote something that is the truth.

    Apr 02nd, 2012 - 03:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    the picture above,
    looks like a before and after look at CFK

    Apr 02nd, 2012 - 04:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pirat-Hunter

    Lol is the dead laughing at the decapitated ?? All of the nations mentioned have protectionist measures far greater then that of Argentina, take Australia for example burning boats for fishing 6kilograms of fish. Or Canada taxing gas alcohol and even tobacco as little as 25% for importing some for personal use. Talk about hypocrisy.

    Apr 02nd, 2012 - 10:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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