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Obama and CFK leave trade issues aside and want to continue as ‘friends and partners’

Sunday, April 15th 2012 - 04:34 UTC
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President Cristina Fernández and US President Barack Obama agreed to work upon trade differences “which in no way conform the central aspects of the bilateral relationship” during their Saturday afternoon half hour meeting with an “open agenda” at the 6th Summit of the Americas hosted by Colombia. Read full article

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  • KFC de Pollo

    What support for her crazy malvinas crap! well done KFC!

    Apr 15th, 2012 - 05:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    30 mins of USA saying 'get your furking house in order' translates to 'we want to continue our friendship'.

    Apr 15th, 2012 - 06:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    Wow! a whole 30 minutes.

    Apr 15th, 2012 - 07:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stefan

    Of course Kentucky Fried Turkey Neck would complain about Cuba's absence. It ads one more voice to her Falklands bitching. I know EXACTLY why it wasn't mentioned however. When asked, Obama's reply was “I'll be more flexible after the reelection to screw my allies over. Just wait till then, crazy salamander lady.” Besides, he has enough to worry about, with his Secret Service detail being suspended for hiring prostitutes.

    Apr 15th, 2012 - 08:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • McClick

    These movements always determined by technocrats & technicians not by politicians.

    Apr 15th, 2012 - 08:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Doveoverdover

    Can't wait to read the consensus communique from the OAS “Summit of the Americas”. Could be in for a very long wait though.

    Apr 15th, 2012 - 09:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    The last OA$ summit?
    Useful for the U$, useless for US...
    Let US put the U$ behind US and strive for UNASUR

    Apr 15th, 2012 - 10:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GALlamosa

    Silence is golden.

    Apr 15th, 2012 - 01:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • tobias

    If several sources are to be believed (credible newspapers from several countries), there was going to be a formal pronouncement of support for ARG/UK negotiations of the Falklands, but Argentina itself vetoed it.

    The USA had a “reservations” footnote or something to that regard, and apparently Argentina rejected it. None of the sources said what Canada's position was.

    Apr 15th, 2012 - 01:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @9 So to translate that: Argentina wanted a statement giving full support for their illegal claim to the Falklands. However, not all members support them and would not agree to it so Argentina withdrew the topic in a fit of temper.

    Apr 15th, 2012 - 01:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @9 Does it really matter? The Falklands, like the UK are an Atlantic territory and seemingly have nothing to do with the Americas, including in trade. This is shown by their lack of invite to this Summit of the largely-corrupt and crime ridden Americas.

    Whatsoever these Americans feel like agreeing amongst themselves is largely irrelevant to the lives of the Falklanders. Even if they did make an announcement, it wouldn't matter... the Latin americans would still be knee deep in corruption, poverty and crime, and the Falklanders the complete opposite.

    Better just to focus on the Atlantic, and leave Latin Americans to beheading each other over drugs and other nefarious activities.

    Apr 15th, 2012 - 01:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Joe Bloggs

    10 Elaine

    What other explanation could there be?

    By the way. I haven't heard anything for a while about the joint statement of solidarity that CFK and the Chilean president were going to make after CFK visited him. Also, what about the LAN flight and CFK's offer to replace it with Aerolineas Argentinas flights?

    Tobias
    It's good to see you back on here. I always enjoy your contributions. You're one of the most consistent at taking people to task from either side if you dn't agree with them.

    Apr 15th, 2012 - 01:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • tobias

    @11

    Actually the most corrupt activity in this summit involves just the whole of the US Presidential Detail service and the entire USA military. Go figure.

    And there's been more deadly mass shootings north of Mexico in the last week than in Latin America combined. Stay away from the Anglo American regions, you may be forced into sex with a body guard or shot dead in the office or university!

    Apr 15th, 2012 - 01:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @13. Seriously? A few guys getting drunk, one of them picking up a woman who turned out to be a working gal is the most corrupt activity? I agree it is embarrassing behaviour but let's have some perspective. : )

    @12 It seems CFKC is being thwarted at every turn. Chile would not play ball. Still, I expect her team of 'advisors' are onto another hopeless idea drawn from the suggestion box at the last Kirchner Youth rally.

    How does Timmerman still have a job?

    Apr 15th, 2012 - 02:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Britninja

    Timmerman's there to make everyone else look amazingly competent in comparison.

    Apr 15th, 2012 - 02:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • tobias

    @14

    Uh.... it's not just some guys, hello... it is the presidential escort and military attaches!! They could have “while drunk” given away major tactical and security secrets to prostitutes who were Al-Qaeda informers or some double-agents for country X! It is a massive breach of protocol and rectitude just on its face, but when you add the fact of who was involved, and that it was two US agencies... yes it is a major situation. the embarrassment part is the least worrisome.

    Apr 15th, 2012 - 02:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @16 Are you suggesting that people from the intelligence service can never have a drink? Or be off-duty? Or they all use state secrets as foreplay? Nah. I don't see this as a security risk at all. Utterly stupid and an embarrassment, yes! If you follow your line of reasoning the agents should be locked up at all times, have no off- duty time, never go on vacation and should only be allowed out to work. Just in case they might encounter a waiter at Club Med who is a double-agent. Infiltration of the security services is a little more sophisticated than this kind of chance encounter.

    Still, it is a mystery why they behaved that way. Usually the intelligence service act with a little more intelligence. I am interested to see the story unfold.

    Apr 15th, 2012 - 02:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pugol-H

    @ 17 ElaineB

    When you are involved in security and or intelligence at their level, you are never off duty.

    And that is exactly the kind of compromising, attention drawing situation they should have avoided at all costs.

    Apr 15th, 2012 - 03:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @18 I agree it should not have happened. Was there a major security risk involved? I doubt it.

    Apr 15th, 2012 - 03:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Xect

    @9 - Tobias.

    Would you mind posting the links to these credible sources please?

    Thanks.

    Apr 15th, 2012 - 03:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    17 ElaineB “Still, it is a mystery why they behaved that way”

    What mistery? Hellooo :-)))

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1jaVWiL51M

    Apr 15th, 2012 - 03:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    While you're all laughing about Secret Agents sleeping with women like a 007 film, I'm laughing at how 'mouth of sauron' Telam goebbelian not-news agency said the reason there was no final written statement was because of the Cuba issue (http://english.telam.com.ar/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=14818:president-cristina-thanked-the-solidarity-of-more-than-30-countries-with-malvinas-during-the-summit-of-the-americas&catid=42:politics) Whereas, more believable Miami herald said it was because the USA wanted a footnote saying 'nonsense about malvinas is nonsense' (http://english.telam.com.ar/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=14818:president-cristina-thanked-the-solidarity-of-more-than-30-countries-with-malvinas-during-the-summit-of-the-americas&catid=42:politics) therefore the Argentinians refused to sign up to the draft.

    30 mins with el presidente ripping you another asshole and then no 'every country in the world agrees with us over las malvinas' B.furking.S, then Telam printing some non-truths.

    How very Argentinian is that? (answer: very)

    Apr 15th, 2012 - 03:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @21 I NEVER click links on message boards. I have said this many times. If you have something to say, say it. Try using your own words to express an opinion.

    @22 Timmerman was lying his pants off in a press conference before the summit. Crash and burn; again.

    Nothing has changed and nothing will change.

    Apr 15th, 2012 - 03:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Xect

    Timmerman's international political career was over when he made the brilliant comical speech at the UN where apparently neither the Argentine intelligence services nor Timmerman know the difference between a secret military radar and a weather radar.

    He then went on to show pictures of the nuclear submarine in the Falklands - for those that don't know it was copied from a British newspaper and was a picture of not only a different submarine in British waters but was a picture of a different class of submarine.

    Epic, truly epic.

    Thanks for posting GreekYoghurt, that actually sounds about right given Obama has promised not to move against the UK on the Falkland's issue.

    Apr 15th, 2012 - 03:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pirat-Hunter

    Lol is USA and UK playing good cop bad cop again?? How did the strategy work against luis vernet in 1833 or even Saddam hussain and Iraq or Gaddafi and his hometown Libya??? English people should get a red nose and a clown dress for people to take them serious. Is USA with us or against us Argentine's??? We should aproach USA with bushe's attitude and apropiate their terrorist bank accounts in Argentine under the national security banner as USA did to Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya, can you imagine how much money this terrorists thieves must have in their accounts. And all this is legal under international laws in australia the English government can burn boats of people who wondered into their what Australia consider their sea, witch we can emulates to expropiate. And burn pirate ships illegally drilling for oil in Islas Malvinas Argentina.
    www.treehugger.com/green-food/egg-shortages-uk-due-end-battery-eggs.html

    Apr 15th, 2012 - 06:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    So, CFKC flounced off and went home without attending the official closing meeting.

    “Colombian journalists assured that Fernández de Kirchner’s erratic behavior comes in response to the lack of consensus on support to Argentina’s sovereignty claim to the UK over the Malvinas, South Georgia, and Sandwich Islands, hence the no inclusion of the topic in the summit’s final report.”

    When is she going to grow up?

    Apr 15th, 2012 - 06:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brit Bob

    From the Buenos Aires Herald:

    'Columbian journalsts assured that CFK's erratic behaviour comes in response to the lack of consensus on support to Argentina's sovereign claim to the UK over the Malvinas, South Georgia and Sandwich Islands.'

    Is this because no-one else in the continent gives a damn about Argentina's spurious claims?

    Apr 15th, 2012 - 06:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @27 LOL! Snap.

    I wouldn't want to be on the plane journey home with her.

    Apr 15th, 2012 - 06:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stefan

    http://www.aljazeera.com/news/americas/2012/04/201241517107911574.html

    I hadn't even heard that KFC had “stormed out”. (most likely crying) What did she expect? After Chavez was sent to Cuba to die, the block was like a chicken with its head cut off! haha. Another embarrassing, diplomatic defeat for Argentina and the Mercosquad.

    Apr 15th, 2012 - 06:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Britninja

    I wonder if any junior ministers got shoved out the plane door at 40000 feet after one of her tantrums. Hopefully they calmed her down with some salted peanuts and a couple of botox syringes first.

    Apr 15th, 2012 - 07:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Xect

    I find it interesting she stormed out, shows her mentality.

    A bit like when the American politician asked if she was on medication for her behaviour.

    It's also interesting that there appeared to be a strong lack of support from her comments and also from other reports.

    Apr 15th, 2012 - 07:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    At least the photographer got a picture of her flouncing out across the concrete WITH HER HAND HELD IN FRONT OF HER FACE, which spared us seeing it. Still in 'widows weeds' though.

    Perhaps her 'man friend' couldn't make it and she needed a good seeing to to calm her down. Bet even Obarmy's security detail would have turned her down.

    She is getting more laughable every day.

    Apr 15th, 2012 - 07:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Joe Bloggs

     Latin American nations say there may not be another summit unless the US overcomes its objections to Cuba [AFP]
    Argentina's President Cristina Kirchner has stormed out of the Summit of the Americas in protest against a perceived lack of regional support for her country's claims in the dispute with the UK over the Falkland Islands.

    The summit in Colombia had already been marred by a lack of consensus among attendees, with Latin America countries opposing the decades-old US isolation of communist Cuba.

    Several countries put pressure on Barack Obama to end the ban, as the US president continued to be plagued by a US secret service scandal involving prostitutes.

    Al Jazeera's Lucia Newman, reporting from Cartagena, said the summit was at risk of “falling apart” after Kirchner's exit.

    “I suppose the collapse shouldn't be too surprising. There was complete disagreement about signing a final statement but the nail in the coffin came when Cristina Kirchner stormed out of the summit followed by Bolivia's Evo Morales.

    ”[Kirchner] was furious, we are told, because of the lack of full, complete support for Argentina's claim of control of the Falkand Islands,“ Newman said.

    ”We understand she was very, very angry that [leaders] didn't even mention the dispute over the islands with the UK.“

    ”She was overheard saying, 'This is pointless. Why did I even come to this.”

    Apr 15th, 2012 - 07:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Britninja

    “This is pointless”. Damn right you silly bint.

    Apr 15th, 2012 - 07:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Joe Bloggs

    Has the Internet gone down in Argentina or something. I haven't seen a post on here from their part of the woods for quite some time.

    Marcos, Pirate, McClick, Think? Are you guys okay over there?

    Apr 15th, 2012 - 07:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    If she really did say “This is pointless. I don't know why I came here”, or words to that effect, just because she did not get support for her attempt to colonise the Falklands, that shows that all she is obsessed with is one issue. Sheer madness for a leader of a country.

    Apr 15th, 2012 - 07:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Britninja

    Maybe it's a La Campora barbecue, karaoke and GBH social evening.

    Apr 15th, 2012 - 07:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stefan

    @35 - They're crying, just like the dear leader! Morales walked out too. Figures. He had some coca leaves to chew.

    Apr 15th, 2012 - 08:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    Was she seen stuffing her face full of meds after telling them all about how 'clickclickclick was argentinian and invaded the malvinas in 10'000'004BC and got thrown off by bangbangbang 10'000'001BC, and the argies are going to get them back after they were stolen for 10'000'200 years' and basically everyone did the 'she is mental' sign with their finger on temple ... and then she said 'la campora understand me' and Morales screamed about seeing a purple face whilst chewing on coca leaves, and they stumbled out into the darkness crying together.

    It's all furking nonsense from those parts.

    Apr 15th, 2012 - 08:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stefan

    @39 - Morales thought he had hallucinated a turkey-necked monster, but it just turned out to be KFC!

    Apr 15th, 2012 - 10:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    There are so many rumours and articles,
    We heard on the grapevine that the Argentinean contingent was told in very polite terms that the Falklands was a no no , and not to be mentioned, even at the press conference later,
    Apparently Obama has had enough of this [childish obsession]
    And he has an election to win, and the last thing he needs is Argentina xxcking it up for him,

    Well that’s what we heard,

    .

    Apr 15th, 2012 - 11:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • TipsyThink

    The 1982 war gave voice to a nasty,intolerant British nationalism which most people in these islands never believed in or voted for ,but which won over London political classes and elites.

    Apr 16th, 2012 - 08:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    42 TipsyThink

    Yes, get off the point because you cannot handle the facts that the Mad Bitch threw a fit in front of her 'friends' thereby confirming what they already thought: she's a Mad Bitch.

    Apr 16th, 2012 - 10:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • honoria

    @ 42 TipsyThink
    Exactly how does wanting to remain British instead of being stamped all over by people who don't like us equate to nasty, intolerant nationalism?
    Agreed - we will not accept Argentina's attempts to colonise the Falklands but does that make us intolerant? Agreed - we are very clear on who we are and who we want to be in the future but does that make us nasty nationalists? Your comment is very typical of Argentina's tendency to lash out at us when things don't go your way. If Argentina expended a similar amount of effort on building a sensible working relationship with the Falkland Islands - and this would require a sustained long term effort to undo the damage inflicted over the past 30 years - we might actually get somewhere that would be good for both of us. And don't give me any nonsense about how much Argentines hate the British and can't accept our presence in the South Atlantic. We have a lot to let go about you guys too.

    Apr 16th, 2012 - 12:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Bubba

    Botox Queen and Barry in the nude.. ewwwwwwww!!

    Apr 16th, 2012 - 02:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • toooldtodieyoung

    42 TipsyThink

    What, what and what?

    “a nasty,intolerant British nationalism???”

    If someone came into your home and told you that as of this moment, you had to stop being Argentinian and start being English, wouldn't that strike you as being intolerant?

    My Partner bought me a book called “Lost voices of the Falklands” the invasion as told in their own words by the Islanders, British forces and the Argentinian invaders, it makes for eye openning reading.....

    Telling certain Islanders that they were a “Threat to the peace and stability of the islands” and shipping them off to Montivideo.

    Exactly who is guilty of “intolerant nationalism?”

    Apr 16th, 2012 - 02:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    42 TipsyThink
    we think you imputted the wrong code into your indocrination system,
    please replace with , 000666000 thanks .

    Apr 16th, 2012 - 08:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • British_Kirchnerist

    #7 lol =)

    #46 “Exactly who is guilty of “intolerant nationalism?”” Look at all the sexist bilge above attacking the beautiful and effective leader of Argentina in the crudest terms, and also the racist stereyotyping of Morales as a drug addict when everyone serious knows that coca does not mean cocaine as far as Bolivians, as opposed to Americans and Europeans, are concerned

    Apr 17th, 2012 - 01:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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