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Setback for Spain: EU confirms trade talks with Mercosur, including Argentina

Tuesday, April 24th 2012 - 01:09 UTC
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A member of the European Union assured it is not possible to negotiate an agreement between the EU and Mercosur without Argentina, as the Spanish Government planned after the country’s decision to expropriate YPF. Read full article

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  • Think

    TWIMC
    Article says:
    “If we negotiate with Mercosur, we negotiate with Mercosur, which is an association of four countries, we cannot negotiate with three quarters of the Mercosur as well as we cannot negotiate with three quarters of the EU,”

    I say:
    As they say in Scandinavia.....:

    Logik for burhøns.....
    (Battery hen's logic)

    Apr 24th, 2012 - 04:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    Half of EU member states do not want any trade agreement with Mercosur. Who would want a trade agreement with a group largely run by past and current terrorists and including rogue states. And what price a trade agreement when the majority of European consumers don't want the sub-standard contaminated products of South America. Buy it, pay for it and then throw it away when you realise your consumers don't want it makes no sense.

    Apr 24th, 2012 - 11:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    Won't this be voted on in the EU parliament? I'm sure any agreement would have to be. Surely that is the venue for member states to decide, what, if any action is taken, is taken. After all the EU was set up as a trading organisation.

    Apr 24th, 2012 - 11:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JohnN

    Key pre-condition of ANY EU free trade agreement with MERCOSUR must include respect for ALL EU members' territories and borders, including Falkland Islands:

    Special member state territories and the European Union:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_member_state_territories_and_the_European_Union

    European Union Law, Council Decision of 27 November 2001 on the association of the overseas countries and territories with the European Community (search keyword “Falklands” as included amongst listed territories):
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_member_state_territories_and_the_European_Union

    Apr 24th, 2012 - 02:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    I said this would happen when the whole thing about Spain using the EU against Argentina.

    The EU are DESPERATE to sell the EU products ANYWHERE, forget that they just ripped off an EU Member.

    Pathetic.

    Apr 24th, 2012 - 02:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Malvinero1

    Half of EU member states do not want any trade agreement with Mercosur. Who would want a trade agreement with a group largely run by past and current terrorists and including rogue states. And what price a trade agreement when the majority of European consumers don't want the sub-standard contaminated products of South America. Buy it, pay for it and then throw it away when you realise your consumers don't want it makes no sense.
    conqueror: AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
    uk going bankrupt!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaxV0qyaUMo&feature=relmfu

    Apr 24th, 2012 - 03:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • PirateLove

    @6 Bankrupt? witha triple AAA rating, if thats bankrupt what is Argentina they are not even on the scale, however Uruguay is
    think happy thoughts you lunatic.

    Apr 24th, 2012 - 03:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Malvinero1

    @6 Bankrupt? witha triple AAA rating, if thats bankrupt what is Argentina they are not even on the scale, however Uruguay is
    think happy thoughts you lunatic.
    AAA???

    UK credit rating downgraded... by China Despite George Osborne's best efforts, the Chinese agency said slow growth would keep the deficit high Continue reading the main story
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    The UK's credit rating has been cut by the Dagong rating agency of China.

    The agency blamed the UK's sluggish growth, which it said would be stuck in the 1.3%-1.5% range for two more years, hurting government finances.

    The downgrade from AA- to A+ puts Britain on a par with Chile and heavily-indebted Belgium, and the US, which Dagong downgraded in November.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-13518747
    I believe more China in this case than the western crooks....

    Apr 24th, 2012 - 04:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    @8 Malverino1.
    Here we go again. Quoting selective parts of an article, to make a point and missing out other parts of the article, that detract from that point. So let me quote another paragraph from it, “In contrast, Dragons ratings are not widely relied upon by investors outside china.” Well their we go then, next please.

    Apr 24th, 2012 - 06:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pugol-H

    Think about this, if murcosur wants an agreement with the EU, and Brazil wants, then murcosur becomes responsible for delivering its end of the bargin, including Argentina as it’s a member.

    Or mercosur can Un-include Argentina.

    Either way for any deal to happen the pressure within murcosur is now on Argentina.

    Apr 24th, 2012 - 08:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    no disrespect to spain, but now she knows what its like to be stabbed in the back, [remeber gibralter]

    is the UK really going bankrupt,
    6 billion, 999million, 999thousand , 9 hundred and 99 says no,
    5 say yes, all argie sympthisers, and one malvino, the the anti brit,
    need we say more,

    Apr 24th, 2012 - 09:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Malvinero1

    Here we go again. Quoting selective parts of an article, to make a point and missing out other parts of the article, that detract from that point. So let me quote another paragraph from it, “In contrast, Dragons ratings are not widely relied upon by investors outside china.” Well their we go then, next please.
    Well many good experts sya soo.....For some years,we have considered uk FINISHED...Actually since the '80
    That is THE REALITY>
    Iuk living in the past...!

    Apr 25th, 2012 - 12:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • vix

    ups!
    Mercosur without Argentina woudn't be Mercosur! That's way!!!

    Apr 25th, 2012 - 01:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    Ah, espainya,
    Land of
    Sun sand sea and sax

    A land runs on the fruits of juices

    Ah, argentine,
    Land of indocronoughts, astronoughts, and claiming noughts
    A land runs on the juices of brain matter.

    .

    Apr 26th, 2012 - 06:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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