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Olympic Games joins Falklands’ dispute: “To compete in English soil, we train in Argentine soil”
As was somehow anticipated by Ambassador in UK Alicia Castro’s attitude, Argentina is determined to take advantage of the London Olympic Games global exposure to press for its claims over the Falklands Islands, as part of a plan allegedly called “Sowing for the Malvinas claim”. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesHow comical, and desperate. Shame the indiginous population of Argentina cant do the same..all dead :(
May 03rd, 2012 - 06:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0More ill timed, misjudged propaganda, but I can not deny the comedy value this has.
May 03rd, 2012 - 06:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0Starring an athlete who was born in Buenos Aires and has played in Spain for the past ten years.
May 03rd, 2012 - 07:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0Has he actually been to the Falkland Islands more than once?
I think he did very well, he managed to avoid all those landmines his countrymen left behind :-)
May 03rd, 2012 - 07:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0This behaviour, like that of the ambassador, is very abnormal indeed.
May 03rd, 2012 - 07:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0Again - promoting the idea of starting a dialogue.
May 03rd, 2012 - 07:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0(dialogue - discourse toward problem understanding and consensual action)
Argentina sees only one outcome - the Falkland Islands belong to Argentina - if you don't agree the Islands still belong to Argentina.
Okay. So Argentinian government policy is to politicise the Olympic games.
May 03rd, 2012 - 07:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0Should the UK consult the Olympic authorities about this now they know what the Malvinistas intend? Personally I was deeply offended in 1982 when they defiled my country, I expect I shall be just as offended by them the next time they do it.
Actually, if you think about it, it is a consistent pattern. Utterly unacceptable behaviour to anybody without an axe to grind but totally normal and acceptable for KFC, her circus roadshow and 'Kirchneristas' world wide. Thankfully there are precious few of those and most are as mentally unstable as she is.
So on the other hand I think I am looking forward to it now. It should be entertaining and cringeworthy.
Also pertinent to point out that politicising the Olympic Games is against the rules.
May 03rd, 2012 - 07:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0Rules - those thing that the RG's dont bother with.
Another utterly shameful act by the Argentines.
Young and Rubicam HQ is in the US but they have a UK presence that has UK Government contracts. Perhaps FIG should be considering retrospective civil and criminal litigation under swiftly ratified Prevention of Tourism legislation or something.
May 03rd, 2012 - 08:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0Does he actually kiss the sand when he falls over doing pushups? That has to be one of the funniest things I've ever seen! Glad Argentina has students that admire comedy......what? It was a political short? Paid for by the government? **shock**
May 03rd, 2012 - 08:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0red phonebox all the signs in english yeah looks like argentine land.
May 03rd, 2012 - 08:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0What is the “Malvinas Islands Patio” it sounds comic. Do we have a First World War gazebo?
May 03rd, 2012 - 08:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0How far do you have to go to get kicked out of the Olympics for politicising them?
Yes Argentina making themselves look even more pathetic than usual.
May 03rd, 2012 - 08:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0Maybe the Falklanders should put an embargo on Argentinians visiting the islands under the 'prevention of terrorism act'. I mean they've already tried to bomb the EU building in Argentina.
Plus it would really annoy CFK and her cronies, and she may have to annex another international business in revenge! LOL
@12 Before thinking of badges and banners they really need to read the IOC charter...particularly rule 50:
May 03rd, 2012 - 08:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0“No kind of demonstration or political, religious or racial propaganda is permitted in any Olympic sites, venues or other areas.”
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“No form of publicity or propaganda, commercial or otherwise, may appear on persons, on sportswear, accessories or, more generally, on any article of clothing or equipment whatsoever worn or used by the athletes or other participants in the Olympic Games, except for the identification [...] of the manufacturer of the article or equipment concerned”
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“Any violation of the provisions of the present clause may result in disqualification or withdrawal of the accreditation of the person concerned. ”
Actually think they are probably safe with the video though...they steered clear of actually naming the Olympics.
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On a less serious note...this is crying out to be satirised by the FIG, or anybody else with a camera...
I have a vision of Islanders of all shapes and sizes running out of the various buildings shown in this video, and past the various scenes...all ending up at the same place...with a big sign saying “Polling Station”. Cut to end slogan including words like “freedom”, “democracy”, “self-determination”, “human rights”...
Find the fatest man on the Falklands and get him to recreate the video with an ambulance in tow.
May 03rd, 2012 - 09:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0All the video succeeds in doing, is showing how British the Falkland Islands and Stanley are! It shows Zylberberg running past a British flag, a red telephone box and signs in English. There's nothing Argentine about the Falklands based on what was in that video.
May 03rd, 2012 - 09:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0The Olympics Charter guards against politization, Item 50 bans demos, propaganda and advertising. Argentina will be out on its ear if it tries. The only true route to publicise their cause is to not attend.
May 03rd, 2012 - 09:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0The Argentine IOC member Gerardo Werthein must also abid this charter and has to suppress political abuse of his country's athletes and promote the host countries and host cities. Seems to me that the Zylberberg video is against this charter. IOC take note please!
It's about time FIG banned all ARG visitors, these cretins are starting to take the piss. Also return the remains from Darwin cemetary and be totally Arg free.
May 03rd, 2012 - 09:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0@15 Nice one!
May 03rd, 2012 - 10:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0Awkwardly desperate advert is awkward. Not only do I feel sorry for the Argentinians who are just getting desperate, poor old Y&R seem to be going through some tough times too. Getting someone who abandoned your country because it was a bit sh!t to be in an advert about the forced annexation of islands against the occupants wishes, pretty much makes Y&R about as goebellian as it gets. (http://www.yr.com/people/list/)
May 03rd, 2012 - 10:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0David Sable, Global Chief Executive Officer “Never forget that only dead fish swim with the current.”
Yes David, we won't forget that Joseph Goebbels didn't swim with the current. (http://www.yr.com/people/list/) Here is David Sable, CEO talking about being Jewish in business and having a higher ethic than other people.
He goes on in his You-tube to judge people like Bernard Madoff, who are apparently incapable of seeing who they hurt, people who are incapable of showing desire to make amends, zero desire to help the poor, the poorest of the poor, and then he goes and runs a piece of work helping to promote the forced annexation of someone elses land.
Then he goes on about taking the high ground... “are you respectful of the laws?” well David, not respectful of the UN charter or international law.
Well done Y&P, you're morally vacuous.
So good to see that Argentinians - 30 years on - are so good at their speciality - running in the Falklands! Thousands of British veterans who chased them down the hills in 1982 are rolling on the floors in laughter at this lot!
May 03rd, 2012 - 10:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0I suppose they do it again the lads at mpa could rustle up a ghurkha should get his personal best time up to gold medal standard:)
May 03rd, 2012 - 10:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0Can someone with the magic-skills lighten it up a bit and super-impose a ghurka chasing him down the streets and then Kukri'ing him on the beach?
May 03rd, 2012 - 10:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0That would make me laugh for quite a while...
The RG press is full of criticism of this shameless propaganda.
May 03rd, 2012 - 11:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0The military regime pulled a similar stunt in the '78 World Cup , using football as a propaganda tool back then . “ Somos derechos y humanos ”
( We are “ proper” and human )
Comments sections of all the RG papers including the pro government ones say the regime has really gone too far with this stunt .
The athlete admits it was made in secret at dawn and that he did for the money
here is a link to it :
http://www.clarin.com/politica/Expectativa-misterioso-televisivo-Gobierno-difundira_0_692930959.html
GY : Brilliant post BTW.
It is odd that they don't even seem to understand how propaganda works.
May 03rd, 2012 - 11:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0By including all the obvious British symbols on the Falklands they've made it look like they are laying claim to parts of the home counties.
It seems to highlight that the place isn't Argentine at all.
I say........carry on.
@24,25 It's all very peronist, and they pretty much ran past every british flag they could find on the island. Not really sure if the underlying messaging of 'this isn't argentina' is intentional or just due to amateurism.
May 03rd, 2012 - 11:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0I just read one comment from LA Nacion where some dude said that if he was truly running in Argentinian territory he would be stepping in dog poop, he would get bitten, beggars would be asking him for a beer, there would be grime from boxes everywhere, prostitutes posters on the wall and vehicular chaos. He then went on to say that he would be lucky if he got home alive.
Puts it into some form of perspective.
Oh I don't know, I think its very comical although tragic for Argentinians.
May 03rd, 2012 - 11:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0Not to mention as others have pointed out this is against Olympic rules.
.......Sounds like Port Stanley got some free advertising out of it though. So yet again, their attempt at propaganda backfires. I think “The Cestrian” in his post when he said “We don't have to do / say anything to make the Argentinians look stupid, they do it all themselves”
May 03rd, 2012 - 11:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0This highlights the difference in mentality between the British and the Argentines. Most Brits would be embarrassed if our government behaved like that.
May 03rd, 2012 - 12:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#13 I agree, but the Argentine way - Build a special hotel out of 40' sea containers in the middle of nowhere for suspect visitors. (Grieving relatives visiting the war dead should be treated with respect and kindness) .
May 03rd, 2012 - 12:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Good publicity for the Globe Tavern which is a dump.
May 03rd, 2012 - 12:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If the islanders needed any excuse to ban argentines ever visiting the Falklands, clearly this is it. They invited these people to come to their sporting events with the best intentions, despite the sickening levels of racist abuse leveled at them by argentina, and how did these athletes repay them? by happily stabbing them in the back and using the islanders' generosity to be abused by making propaganda films to demand their subjugation.
May 03rd, 2012 - 01:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Fernando Zylberberg has been playing hockey for about 15 years, the last 10 of which he has lived in Spain. I estimate that to do this little film he must have run about one and half miles, maybe a little more, and he was THAT exhausted when he reached the beach!!!
May 03rd, 2012 - 02:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Doesn't look good for Argentinas chances in mens hockey.
@32 Surely the agency doing the advert and the guy in the advert were working, either for free or for funds. So he needed a working visa. If he didn't have a working visa then he was working illegally. Therefore he can arguably be sued in the UK courts and an arrest warrant put out for him through Europol. Or even just arrest him when he's coming to the Olympics for fraudulent application of visa. Then all the advertising agency video-production folk can get picked up when they visit the USA and we can use those reciprocal terrorism laws to get them into the UK, and sue them for hate crimes. This is all legal under UK law, and let's face it... the suggestion of ethnic cleansing is clearly a hate crime.
May 03rd, 2012 - 02:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If this guy is going to the Olympics anyways, then all they have to do is get the Polizei to pick him up at the airport.
@33 he looks like cream-bun powered Maximo could beat him in a 100m sprint.
“Olympic Games joins Falklands’ dispute: “To compete in English soil, we train in Argentine soil” Earthworms, Moles and the like compete” in English soil”
May 03rd, 2012 - 02:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Does C.F.K now have designs on their little underground kingdoms ? If so then what next? are we to hear the strains of an unfamiliar national anthem emanating from our compost heaps?
@34: He admitted having charged for his work: http://www.perfil.com/contenidos/2012/05/03/noticia_0002.html
May 03rd, 2012 - 02:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@36 Then I hope he and the camera crew all filled out a visas saying that. It's difficult to be claim to be an olympic athelete when you're locked up for visa fraud.
May 03rd, 2012 - 02:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The advertising agency could be complicit, and conspiracy to commit visa fraud is also serious.
A true patriot would have done it for free don't ya think?
May 03rd, 2012 - 02:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@38 Apparently. I guess he's not a true patriot.In some ways I can understand them if they just ban all argtards from visiting the islands. They have absolutely no respect for anything or anyone.
May 03rd, 2012 - 02:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0(http://en.mercopress.com/2012/05/02/argentina-recalls-air-force-malvinas-baptism-of-fire-promises-utmost-respect-for-islanders) I guess this is what utmost respect means. Just like peace means harassment.
So we're beginning to build up a dictionary of argtardian terms:
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utmost respect = complete disrespect
peace = harassment
We'll keep it updated.
Also shows Argentinian contempt and disrespect for war memorials - showed the bloke doing running step ups on a war memorial here! Well one accepts you cannot expect much else from that sort of thick thug and his camera crew!
May 03rd, 2012 - 04:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0WE though do respect war memorials and nobody would even think of doing that on their one at Darwin - that is the difference between the culture and attitude of Islanders and so many Argentinians ( there are some good ones).
All this freedom to film on the Falklands Islands yet the Argenswines failed to find one single Falklander being held against their will by the British.
May 03rd, 2012 - 04:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@40 You could phone the police and tell them. Some dude was swinging off the cenotaph (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/nov/15/charlie-gilmour-released-from-prison), the British equivalent of your memorial and he went down for four months in total. I guess the British police should have some words about his respect for people who died in wars.
May 03rd, 2012 - 05:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 041- Yep no hostages to be found! this chap must of got up dead early to swing off a war memorial classy!!! shows the true colours of the RG's.
May 03rd, 2012 - 05:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@43 Seems remarkably fun for them to do that. Now imagine if a thick-set islander was doing the mary poppins chimney skip from one arg-grave to another on an advert about it not being their land at all. I'm sure the response would be interesting.
May 03rd, 2012 - 06:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thankfully though, unlike them we're not low life vermin and don't have to sink to their level.
Dear oh dear oh dear. I hadn't realised he'd been skipping around on a war memorial. Why shoot yourself in the foot when you can blow the whole bloody thing off.
May 03rd, 2012 - 06:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I gather the production company was American. I'd be interested to hear more about the director. I can't help but think he sold the Argentines a poisoned chalice. The question is - was it intentional?
It's not and never has been Argentine soil - apart from those few weeks in 1982.
May 03rd, 2012 - 06:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The historical facts are:
During the 1600-1800 period the Falkland Islands changed hands many times between Britain, France and Spain until France gave up and Spain and Britian formed a truce. However, when Spain was thrown out of South America from various wars of independence, Britain was left with the last standing legal claim. However, the early Argentine Republic also decided it wanted the Falklands but instead of claiming it, it attempted to subdue the settlement/penal colony of one Loius Vernet - who had already gone to the British for permission and had recognised their ownership. When the British found out that Vernet was working with the Argentines they sent a ship to take direct control of the settlement and ejected the garrison but allowed the settlers to stay on. While this irritated Argentina, by 1850 Argentina had forgotten about theb issue and legally dropped its attempted claim in a treaty with Britain.
It was only later when Peron came to power in Argentina were spurious versions of history invented. It is because of this propaganda we have today's proplems that have been made worse by CFK and her cronies.
@45
May 03rd, 2012 - 06:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Director: “I didn't realise he was jumping up and down on a big and obvious war memorial”
UK Boreder Agency: “Really, didn't you?” *puts on rubber gloves*
think the director may well have done it on purpose
May 03rd, 2012 - 07:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Simple, check he had a working visa, if not then pass details to UK border force, detain him in July when he arrives for the games, detain for questioning long enough to miss his matches, send him on his way, claim it was a routine check.
May 03rd, 2012 - 07:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0... it would be nicer if europol put out an arrest warrant for him and he did bird in some british prison as 'the argentinian who danced on the war memorial'. I'm sure a pretty hockey boy like him would be very popular in the prison showers.
May 03rd, 2012 - 08:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0then who'd be laughing about scurrying around the falklands in the early hours? (answer: we would)
@45Idlehands “I gather the production company was American. I'd be interested to hear more about the director. I can't help but think he sold the Argentines a poisoned chalice. The question is - was it intentional?”
May 03rd, 2012 - 08:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Young & Rubicam (NY) according to The Telegraph, can contact them @ http://www.yr.com/contact
Intentional (unlikely) or not, I sent them a wee note already. I'm usually quite restrained with such responses, however, not when people use war memorials as training props in an underhand propaganda video.
@51 Fair comment. I think I mentioned earlier the CEO of this firm is all over the internet saying how he felt he is morally and ethically superior to everyone else in existence (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_DLkwI5G-A).
May 03rd, 2012 - 08:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I guess this is achieved through the production of crass propaganda for a peronist tyrant who cares not for human rights, complete with dancing on war memorials.
I still think Argentina should boycott the Olympics.
May 03rd, 2012 - 08:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Not for the Falklands, but for the Olympics. Corrupt, rotten, uber-political institution. Thankfully 95% of argies will not even watch the Olympics, we don't care. Its like the World Cup to Americans or South Africans.
@53 Cream bun eating isn't an olympic sport, so you're not going to win anything anyways.
May 03rd, 2012 - 09:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0An englishman crowing about sport prowess is spelled F-A-I-L.
May 03rd, 2012 - 09:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just saying.
To compete on Pirates soil, trained on Argentine soil (Puerto Argentino).” Nice spot!!! I really like it!!!
May 03rd, 2012 - 09:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@53
May 03rd, 2012 - 09:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You don't care because:
1. La Campora doesn't take part, and
2. You never win any fucking medals.
As for your sporting prowess tell me how many Olympic medals Argentina has won?
@56 nice pimple?
May 03rd, 2012 - 09:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@55 I wasn't crowing, nor was I ravening. The fact is, the only way you could win a medal is by getting Cream Bun eating as an exhibition sport. Then you can get your chief Cream Bun eater himself to win you the Gold.
@57
May 03rd, 2012 - 09:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You idiotic fool... if you don't care about an event or sport, are you likely to win?? What a fool.
The sports we do care about (football, basketball, tennis, rugby, field hockey, polo, and auto racing), we do QUITE well, usually in the top 5-10 in the world rankings, and have world cups or olympic gold medals in them.
Now get lost you uber-nationalistic bum, and just admit you can't be better at everything and live with it.
@59 You do 'oh so well' in hockey and only get into the Olympics because South Africa pulled out.
May 03rd, 2012 - 09:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If they had a sport called War Memorial Desecration then Argentina might win a medal, that guy in your propaganda looks like he's had a lot of practice.
Has Argentina no dignity at all? I feel sorry for them.
May 03rd, 2012 - 10:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@60
May 03rd, 2012 - 10:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Shows your utter level of jealousy and contempt to admit anything. Argentina won almost every tournament including World Cups and like three Champion Trophies in a row over the last 4-5 years.
A reminder that in that span Argentina won more tourneys than England in 1000 years.
The worst part is that is the best you could do. Certainly can't say anything in Football, basketball, polo, or tennis. I guess you forgot rugby, but lets face it, that is Argentina's amateur sport and we only played 3-4 tests a tear while the other tier one nations play 12-16. And still we have beaten England and otherwise kept it incredibly tight (including last RWC in spite of injuries)
Now that Argentina will begin regular international play I expect in 5-10 years (after a decade of playing the All Blacks, Springboks, and Wallabies plus the proffesionalization of the sport in Argieland itself), to simply piss on the poor english 15 on a routine basis like the other 3 southern hemisphere nations do.
@62 I think your dreadful off-discussion rant took away from the on-topic point I was trying to make about your sportsmen desecrating a war memorial. Not only a war memorial, but one to those that died during a war that your country caused.This desecration has been turned into some kind of comedy during some government propaganda created for general consumption, in your country.
May 03rd, 2012 - 10:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's for reasons like this that people consider you folks to be utterly disgusting, completely shameless and morally-vacuous toads.
You can get back to trying to distract people from the topic now.
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May 03rd, 2012 - 11:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Malvinas are Argentina!! I found this link for you, enjoy!!
Homenaje a los caídos y ex combatientes de Malvinas
www.youtube.com
65 puerto argentino
May 04th, 2012 - 12:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0You will find every newspaper and tv station in the UK has been reporting an Argentine runing up and down a WAR MEMORIAL in a FLAGRANT INSULT to BRITISH WAR DEAD!
FAIL ARGENTINA you are just a bunch of indocrinated sheep following your leader who is using a foregin enemy as a mean to distract you all from the WORLDS second highest inflation rates and an almost certain pending defalt.
www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article4295654.ece
On the 30th Anniversary of an invasion of the Falkland Islands by a fascist Argentine military regime, with the deaths of tens of thousands of their own people on their hands, in a violation of international soverignty and United Nations Charter, this advert is a pathetic statement and a testimont to the crass nature of the Kirchiner regime!
A documentary about Nazi Argentina, on a discussion group the Argentine posters were quote “disapointed” that Argentina was still a military dicatorship. However you people are still fanatical nationalists with ambitions to add the entire South Atlantic and Antartica to your territorial aquisitions. next step will be Chile and Uraguay and they know it. Which is why we have so much support from the people of those nations.
May 04th, 2012 - 12:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6pB57lhPlk&feature=youtu.be&skipcontrinter=1
The video was on the Naval memorial and they released it to coincide with the 30th anniversary of the sinking of HMS Sheffield which makes it truely disgusting.
May 04th, 2012 - 01:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0To all the Falkland Islanders and UK posters on this thread:
May 04th, 2012 - 01:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0Speaking only for myself, as an Argentine I am absolutely ashamed of my Government for having made this despicable film. Please don't blame the Argentine people for this, we really are not that crass.
#69 Simon, I didn't know you were Argentine. Nice comment.
May 04th, 2012 - 03:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0#69 And I am a Briton and i am absolutely ashamed of my Governmnet for trying to take Argentina's coastal oil and defiance of world opinion in refusing to negotiate with the peaceful and reasonable Cristina. Not all my countrymen are so crass, and on the economy many are crying out for a Cristinista pro-growth pro-people policy of our own
May 04th, 2012 - 03:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0Can somebody with a bit of filming skills please make a spoof of this with a Benny Hill look alike. Fast running all over the place, bald guy head slapping, ladys nickers, Smiling Benny Hill?
May 04th, 2012 - 04:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0TWIMC
May 04th, 2012 - 06:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0“The Sun” says (and the Turnips parrot):
ARGENTINA sparked outrage last night after running a TV advert showing an Argie Olympian doing step-ups on a British War Memorial to our fallen heroes in the Falklands.
I say:
The Monument in question is NOT a “British War Memorial to any fallen heroes in the Falklands”
The monument in question is a WWI *VICTORY* monument, as clearly chiseled on its granite:
“VICTORY”
It’s written on top……..and then it continues……:
“IN COMMEMORATION OF THE BATTLE OF THE FALKLAND ISLANDS FOUGHT ON THE 8th DAY OF DECEMBER 1914”……
When a British Victory over their German Cousins……….:
“SAVED THIS COLONY FROM CAPTURE BY THE ENEMY”
No mention of no “FALLEN HEROES”................., nowhere.
yellowairplane.com/adventures/falkland_islands_war_guestbook/Falkands_War_Malvinas_War_Photos/Adam_Coleman_Battle_of_the_Falkland_Islands_Memorial.jpg
Anglo Turnips….., try to inform yourself before displaying your false indignation and your authentic ignorance ……
Brainwash anybody?
#73 Thanks for that Think. The twisting on mercopress and in the British press is very bad, for obvious reasons: people are more likely to be angry in defence of a memorial to fallen soldiers than to a chest beating “victory” memorial to a disastrous war most people over here now believe we shouldn't have fought.
May 04th, 2012 - 06:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0(74) British_Kirchnerist
May 04th, 2012 - 06:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0Don't mention it............
No-one's doubting it was a first world war memorial, of the Sun, one of the worst papers on the planet, wants to give a false impression it wouldn't be for the first time, it's a rag of a paper, but the fact remains that a war memorial was treated with disrespect, that's the main issue here.
May 04th, 2012 - 07:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0(76) Boovis
May 04th, 2012 - 09:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0Since when is an Olympic athlete doing some pulse enhancing step aerobics on the granite steps of the platform of a chest beating victory monument commemorating a fratricidal battle of a fratricidal war being disrespectful?
Stop the whining…............. Stop being pathetic….
@71 & 73
May 04th, 2012 - 12:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If you read @51 you would know that you have both allowed yourselves to be duped by Argentine propaganda.
#77 I WILL mention it - good point =)
May 04th, 2012 - 02:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#76 At least we agree on one thing - the Sun is definately one of the worst papers on the planet. And its gunning for Cristina today =) Not to let the Argentines off the hook entirely as they have Clarin, but at least Cristina's dealing with them....
(79) British_Kirchnerist
May 04th, 2012 - 03:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Please, excuse me for having “recycled” your words...: “Chest Beating Victory” Memorial” in some other threads without your permission.....
They perfectly summarize the only meaning that Monument has...
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May 04th, 2012 - 07:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As per 46
You have grown up to be duped by propaganda started by Peron in the 50's and carried on successfully be the present Nazi comedy politburo of CFK and Co.
How does this feel?
One step forwards, one step back, I also like the fact that the government of Argentina said they didn't sanction it but that CFK did, do they not support her?
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Protest Argentina offensive ad campaign insulting our forces and war dead, make sure Argentina is banned from the Olympics or stopped from making any more political capital out the games and causing more hurt to Falklands vetrans and their families. Sport is not about politics ban Argentina from the Olympics now - join the campiagn
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#80 Don't mention it =)
May 04th, 2012 - 09:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/may/04/sir-martin-sorrell-argentinian-ad?newsfeed=true
May 05th, 2012 - 12:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0WPP boss 'appalled' by ad made by one of his agencies, featuring Argentinian training on war memorial in Falklands.
Sir Martin Sorrell has condemned one of his advertising agencies for creating a TV commercial featuring an Argentinian Olympic athlete training on a war memorial on the Falkland Islands and called for it to be taken off air.
Sorrell, the chief executive of the world's largest marketing group WPP, said he was appalled by the campaign and that his subsidiary had called for the Argentinian government to ban the commercial.
The TV ad was secretly filmed on the Falkand Islands by WPP-owned Y&R Buenos Aires and features hockey player Fernando Zylberberg training at British landmarks with the strapline, “To compete on English soil, we train on Argentinian soil”.
In the ad, Zylberberg is shown frowning at a Union flag, running past Falkland Island landmarks, such as the Globe Tavern pub, the offices of newspaper Penguin News and a red telephone box, and doing step-ups on a first world war memorial....
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May 05th, 2012 - 01:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0You stupid pathetic little prick.
It's a war memorial. Where were you in 1982? Sitting on your couch wanking over pictures of your flag.
You have no idea about war, you pontificate on here as a fake interlectual but what you are in fact is a fanatical nationalists who wants to impose his nations soverignty over someone lse. If you feel so strongly about it you would get up off your couch and do something about it rather than trolling Merco press. The fact is your probably about 4 stone over weight and aging. You expect others to fight your wars. You're a coward. You want to take other peoples land and you want others to do it for you and you engade in whipping up retoric along with your government, the Malvinista's and all the other right and left wing hate groups that have popped up around the issue and CFK.
It's rather pathetic and you know it.
On the 30th Anniversary of a war of aggression waged by a fascist military junta, invading small peaceful islands, in violation of international soverignty, the will of the people and United Nations your country is still whipping up hatred and claiming other peoples land.
It will not work, the numbers of people anti-Argentina in the UK and elsewhere grows every day while you own government scurrys through the rat infested gutters for support from people like you.
This people are funny, first the fakland island company draw lines in Argentina and now the Olympic corporates dictate rules to Argentine's rights to freedom of speech. This is all adding up to a international dictatorship, like the one in Libya.
May 07th, 2012 - 06:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0'As usual, it is about the papers again.
The men, mostly those white men — also again, also as usual — have official papers upon which they have written their rules and their laws and their treaties. They are very sorry, but it is all there on the papers.
The Six Nations of the Iroquois Confederacy have papers, too, but those are no good. It is a shame and everyone is very sorry, but those papers are meaningless. Please stop showing us your quaint, useless papers.'
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Argentina is a product of colonialism, conquered by the sword, most of the natives killed and infected by disease, their land taken from them and worked by imported African slaves, oversean by imported European colonials. The African's who made up 50% of the population would themselves completely disapear from Argentina between 1850-1900 in what could have been a chilling fore runner to the disareances of the Dirty War in the 1970's when an estimated 30,000 Argentines were raped, tortured and murdered, many more were held illegally in detention camps and tortured. The true figure for the dead could be as high as 100,000, no one knows because there is little official documentation and most bodies were dumped in the sea.
May 08th, 2012 - 02:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina took land from its neighbours in numberous wars , civil wars and land grabs - Paraguay, Uraguay, Chile. Today Argentina despite the changed political landscape is still a nation characterised by uber nationalism. The claim to the Falklands was surendered in 1850 but reserected in 1941 by a fascist junta, which inc Peron, they thought their friends the Nazi were going to win the war, the Falklands looked easy picking.
In 1982 Argentina was under the latest succession of a series of fascism military junta's. Their hold on power was looking precarious, in deperation they sort a war, Chile looked like a good victim, they already claimed lots of land and were ignoring the international tribunals that had ruled in Chile's favor. But then they changed their mind and invaded the Falklands. Today the war is romanticized by a nation ruled by a kind of cross between a Neo-Nazi uber nationalist and a Charvesta Revolutionary uber Marxist. The only thing missing is the land reform. Maybe that's for later? But as few natives remain, maybe they'll just ignore their rights... God knows they always have. An entire culture replaced by a European one. Entire languages destroyed.
Timmerman should take time to read about his country's history.
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