Falklands’ students spend time in Punta Arenas as part of an exchange program
Students from the Falkland Islands Community School (FICS) have returned from a two week exchange visit to Punta Arenas in Chile, reports the latest edition from the Penguin News.
“The visit gave the students the opportunity to see some of the friends they had made when a number of Chilean students visited the school back in October of last year,” FICS Headmaster David Tongue told Penguin News.
Eleven students from the school made the trip accompanied by their teacher Michael Barton and former teacher Veronica Fowler.
The group comprised: Axel Rodriguez- Reid, Byron Stewart-Reid, Clodagh Stewart-Reid, Kate Stenning, Jake Buckett, Kirsty McLoed, Michaela Clifford, Pilar Castro, Laoisa Bishop-Newman, Shannon Alazia and India Clarke.
The students stayed with host families and attended school during the first week of the visit. In the second week, the students stayed in a hostel in Puerto Natales for two nights, ate out together, went to Torres del Paine National Park and saw Milodon Cave.
Student Kate Stenning said: “It was interesting to see the difference between school here and the school in Chile. It was great to meet so many new friends and it helped me to improve my Spanish”.
Michaela Clifford added: “It was amazing! A great experience! Before I went I knew very little Spanish and now I have learned quite a bit”.
Jake Buckett also enjoyed the experience: “It was wonderful to see some of the friends I had made when the students came here”.
Mr Tongue said it was great to see how the students had valued the experience: “The opportunity to spend time and make friends in a different country, and immerse themselves in that country’s culture, is an excellent part of their extra-curricula education. We have made some important links which we hope to explore further in the future.”
In 2010 and 2011, Chilean students from Punta Arenas received scholarships to spend time in the Stanley school to improve their English and get a feeling of the Falklands’ culture. (PN)
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We really are making great strides now in south america what with royalty going to Brazil just last month, new embassies opening in the continent.
all in all the whole continent - bar Rg Land - seems to be getting on very well with the UK.
Must say I've always liked the chileans and the Uruguayans, but not the Argentines who are very bad people and cannot be trusted.
Goodness knows what the south american continent makes of the police no longer being in charge of the streets having been usurped by La campora.
hope tobias and Marcos are ok tonight patrolling the streets of BA.
These children need to know that thew are illegal immigrants who are unfairly occupying sacred Argentine lands. I say, ship them home to where they belong...
Why don't you get off your fat little comfortbale ass and try to ship them home yourself. One tip, have a set of dog tags, so your relatives can reconise your tiny part of the malvinas when they visit you. Fear not, you will be interned with all the best possible taste!
May 12th, 2012 - 12:45 am
It would be great if some of the kids could put some comments on one of these threads so that the malvinistas could learn what the young Falkland Islanders feel about this whole thing.
falklandsnews.wordpress.com/2012/05/12/david-cameron-confirms-support-for-the-falklands/
I have two daughters, though I think mine might be a little bit older than your girl. I am very glad she enjoyed her trip. My girls have been away with their school. The youngest to New york twice, visited ground zero, came home very sad and afraid that a terrorist would take her. I had to explain that there were more better people in the world than there were bad and that those better people would take care of her. Tell your girl that there are people here who care about her and will not allow anything bad to happen to her, that she can live the the life you as her father provide for her. That is my solemn promise to you. We will never abandon you and your daughter, no more than I would abandon mine.
Ignore the postings on these sites. Its just point scoring against them.
the truly pathetic thing is that argentina honestly seems to expect that islander children are all desperate to study in argentina, and that they all wish to enjoy the hospitality of a nation which has spent the past 30 years hysterically screaming for them and their families to be reduced to subhuman serfs and disenfranchised of their basic human rights as well as their homes and resources (when they are not making “subtle” threats to outright ethnically cleanse them).
“british soldiers in iraq beat the hell out of innocent kids”
www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhOYpy0iIz8
”British soldier 'killed Iraqi girl, 8, as she played'
Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1323040/Wikileaks-Iraq-war-logs-claim-British-soldier-killed-Iraqi-girl-8-played.html#ixzz1ucgzg64f
any source for British soldiers having intentionally killed thousands of civilians?
unlike your spineless scumbag soldiers, British troops have zero interest in butchering civilians as yours do, which is why any allegation of having done so is big news.
For your soldiers, murdering tens (if not hundreds) of thousands of civilians in the dirty war was just a continuation of your 200 year history of attacking innocent civilians and unarmed natives, only to flee like cowards when real soldiers shoot back at you
then again, I guess your nation cannot hope to achieve anything but humiliating and shameful failure, especially in feats of combat, so your predilection to victimize civilians is not unexpected
Where do you live in Mars?
Britain has not 'intentionally killed thousands of innocent children'. Either post the evidence or shut up. You're just embarrassing yourself.
21 Marcos Alejandro------- Do I have to remind these Brits that they are the ones that killed thousands of innocents children in Iraq!!!!!!!!!! I have told you a million times Morshit to stop exaggerating. You’re Just another irrelevant Argentine speaking out of his arse as they always do. Now either put up or fuck off, your choice.
Do your german anglo saxon cousin’s children count ???.....:
”More than 600,000 civilians, including ~80.000 children died in the bombings……..”
(”Mehr als 600.000 Menschen, darunter fast 80.000 Kinder, fielen den Luftangriffen zum Opfer.)
www.spiegel.de/sptv/reportage/0,1518,258062,00.html
Do the estimated half a million children that died in Iraq since UN sanctions were imposed - most enthusiastically by Britain and the US count???.......:
www.guardian.co.uk/theguardian/2000/mar/04/weekend7.weekend9
Or are both above mentioned “small episodes” an Argentinean invention?
Educate yourself, lass…………….
Brainwash anybody?
And we all know how well you look after your own children
Dying from hunger in food-exporting Argentina
www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-12973543
Before you lecture Argentina and the world how to treat children take a look what your government officials did a few years ago and still doing the same nowadays in Afghanistan.
Remember, when Bush(US) and Blair(UK) enjoy themselves bombing cities they should've known that innocents children lived there don't you think? so don't come and tell me that was collateral damage, hell no! that is called intentionally killed.
www.indybay.org/newsitems/2006/03/16/18080471.php
Likewise, two doctors, Héctor Abate, and Miguel Tregnaghi- were fined with 300.000 Pesos (approx 70.000 dollars) each for irregularities during the studies.
The charges included experimenting with human beings, falsifying parental authorizations so babies could participate in vaccine-trials conducted by the laboratory from 2007 to 2008.
And you talk about experimenting with children...
Shipping home children- that is a particularly overly aggressive suggestion; verbally targetted on the completely helpless...What an alleged mind...I have counselled such people...some are incurable, but that's another advantage of free speech; it shows us where enemies are.
Not my cousins, pal. I'm mostly Celt.
You have yet to prove that anyone set out deliberately to kill millions of innocent children. It's rubbish.
I don't think it's very becoming in you to talk about 'sanctions' either. You'd do the same to Falkland Islanders if you could. The only things stopping you are the fact that your neighbours don't actually love you at all, and won't do what you tell them, and that lovely shiny new destroyer getting around.
This is all crap anyway. This is an article about some children having a nice time. You are all bleating on about Iraq, again, because you can't think of anything relevant to say. In those situations, I've always found it best to say nothing at all.
That's just how scumland works.
You say:
”In those situations, I've always found it best to say nothing at all.”
I say:
If this is true, why do you write at (22) :
“Britain has not 'intentionally killed thousands of innocent children'. ”
And, further on you say:
”Either post the evidence or shut up.”
Well…………… Evidence has been posted……. and what’s your response?
1) No problem… I’m a Celt…..
2) You would do the same to us…..
3) This article is about something else…..
As Guzz mentions at his post (29), a clear case of Plato’s Cave……………
Brainwash anybody?
John I am Argentine and know that would never hurt your daughter or any other kids. know that many Argentines would be very happy to welcome children islanders.
It is true that in big cities like Buenos Aires, Cordoba, Mendoza or Rosario there is some degree of crime but it is very difficult for children islanders are kidnapped by Argentine.
Tell your daughter and other children who do not feel afraid to travel through Argentina.
24
when the war happened I was 20 years old, at that time was compulsory military service in Argentina.Mi biggest fear was being recruited to participate in that war.
I was lucky not to be recruited because I would have refused to participate even at the risk of being imprisoned or perhaps shot.
I have hope that these beautiful and happy children in the picture grow without wars around.
8 Hi friend!
Mostly, it's evidence that you read the Guardian. Well so do I from time to time, but I'm not about to post it as 'evidence' of anything.
And you've got a cheek telling me I'm avoiding that subject. The whole point of this exchange is that that tool Marcos deliberately sidestepped any meaningful discussion about the article by dragging in Iraq and Blair. And now you're doing the same. Some bloody idiot will start ranting on about how the British are all descended from the vile Romans in a minute.
Now if you'll excuse me, I have some shopping to do.
Second time you mention “ Millions of children killed”
Mr. Marcos only mentioned “Thousands of children killed”
Do you have a problem with maths?
You better be carefull with your shopping, lass.
You can easily end paying 500£ for a dozen bananas......
You have a nice day now.
May 12th, 2012 - 01:06 am
I think Chico is being ironical.
You have a nice day too.
And please, please, please.....
Don't spend too many of Mr. M's hard earned monies.....
Remember................. he is a true Kelper and it aches him ;-)
As for the Argentinian trollers like Think, Marcos and your foolish Uruguyan mate, Guz, keep up the posts, it just provides evidence of the complete ignorance of CFK supporters, including La Campora. For example, look at how the Las Camporistas behaved against the Argentinian farmers who protested against the imposition of more taxes upon them....political thugs, nothing more, nothing less, a throwback to the blackshirts of Mussolini's Italy and the brownshirts of Nazi Germany.
Until this year, I had hardly ever followed Mercopress, but it's quite enlightening and sad to see how Argentina is regressing. In Australia, in the mid 1980's, our Australian Govt's Labor treasurer, Paul Keating warned our people about not going down the Argentinian Road.....it was a road to economic oblivion, and how true were his words.
Whoops!! , allowed my emotions to get the better of me. Apologies Chicureo, only read the the post and not who was postings it.
The subtlety of the difference might be lost on the Argtards, but it's not lost on me.
Think!! You out there? you should read what this guy is posting. and if you do indeed “Think” at all you will take notice of what he has said.
If your kids approached our kids, they would be playing football on the beaches, ignoring the stupidity and insults. Even so, nobody wants the islanders any harm, and still they are militarized. Yes, Argentina invaded the islands 1982, a regime that also raped their own people of pride and dignity. Same thing happened in Uruguay. But we got rid of them, and even if the new regimes don't give up their support to Argentinas claims, it doesn't mean anyone will harm the islanders. We all want a peaceful solution on this matter, and that means Britain calling home her warmonkeys
The only one providing evidence of gross ignorance about Argentinean affairs is you………..
Firstly…..:
It is correct that Aussie Labor Treasurer, Paul Keating, warned Australians about not going down the “Argentinean Road”................
But….. He was referring to the “Neo-Liberal Argentinean Road” of the 80’s and 90’s that indeed ruined Argentina in 2001………..
Since 2003, with the election of the present government, things have changed quite dramatically for the better……………….
Secondly………:
It was one of the farmer’s militant organizations that tried to break into the Provincial Legislature and hinder the legislative work of the democratically elected Provincial Government.
They were stopped, inside the building, by a few “Campora Youth”, that had been warned about that quite undemocratic way of protesting.
Why don’t you try to “inform yourself” before commenting in here?
Or are you here just for the pleasure of lying to yourself?
The only thing standing in the way between the Argtard psychological violence and peace are the British Armed Services, who provide them with a feeling of peace and security from foreign terror.They are militarised for exactly this reason. Should they not be militarised your untrustworthy country would invade them again, just like you did in 1982.
You seem to not understand that you say 'peace' and yet you express violence, and as such no one trusts you.
Dealing with the fact no one trusts you is your issue.
No one trusts an Argtard.
Folks are still waiting for this evidence of deliberate British Forces attacks on unarmed civilians in the last 100yrs? (Excluding the rare freak maverik mentally broken soldier attack).
I would exclude what UK and Germany did to each other in WW2 - that was indeed TOTAL War - tragic - but reality.
To my knowledge all missiles and bombs in Iraq and Afghanistan were and are aimed and guided at military targets.
Not that the subject is of much relevance to this news topic though?
But...........maybe it is?
After all - whose soldiers DELIBERATLEY left explosive booby traps like grenades with the pins out under equipment and the lids of small desks in childrens classrooms in Stanley School as they retreated through in June 1982?
And who did likewise to bales of wool and crates in private civilian wharehouses at the same time?
... and these people are Argtard Heroes!! Hahaha They're even discussing taking the British to the Hague! Hahaha They're utterly untrustworthy.
Even Scottish_Coward would struggle to polish that turd.
You say………..:
”I would exclude what UK did to Germany in WW2......”
I say……………:
How very convenient !
Are we allowed to do that ?
I would then exclude Argentina’s Military Malvinas Adventure in 1982, where we didn’t kill or injure any civilian, be it men, women,children, cats or dogs.
You say further…:
“To my knowledge all missiles and bombs in Iraq and Afghanistan were and are aimed and guided at military targets.”
I say…………….:
“To my knowledge most missiles and bombs in Afghanistan are aimed and guided at houses, compounds or small hamlets where ”SUSPECTED” Islamic fundamentalists live together with their not so small families and relatives.
Hence all the “Collateral Damage” that is estimated to be about 10~20 to 1.
That’s why, even the puppet governments of Afghanistan and Pakistan are tired of you.
But, who cares…. They are just Muslims aren’t they?
Did you read & understand post #53 from lslander1?
Does it mean anything to you?
Understanding what your despicable army did in the Falklands.
You will NEVER be welcome here, we have long memories.
@54GreekYoghurt,
You make me laugh with your descriptive phrases like Orange head!
“l say PM, there seems to be a large ugly orange hedge moving towards us”
“Thats not an orange hedge, chancellor, thats the Argentine ambassador”
apologies to Blackadder!
Sad really, I was enjoying hearing what the children thought of their visit.
I could however understand the children who were concerned they would be kidnapped while anywhere near Argentina, given they were from the Falklands (there are no Malvinas).
The Mad Bitch should be really pleased at frightening young, innocent children.
55 Think---- let’s face it you really are a tool aren't you, Nazi Germany started World War 2 just as Nazi Argentina started the Falkland's war. I know in your warped deluded mind we should have just lay down with our paws in the air like a dog and submitted to Nazi Germany just as we should have done when you bastard’ terrorists invaded the Falkland's. However, life is not like that you kick me and I kick you back harder and if you continue to kick me after that I will put you down by any means possible and if you put your wife or your children in front of you after kicking me don't blame me if they get hurt blame yourself for putting them in harm’s way. GOT THE MESSAGE YET or are you too thick in the head to understand how it all works.
Ohhhhh yes……, I did read & understand post #53 from lslander1!
It means that you Brits just can ”exclude what UK did to Germany in WW2” (600.000 civilian casualties of the British bombings of defenseless cities; 80,000 of them children…… )
Most of them during the very last days of WWII, when your German cousins were already laying down………..
It means that you just can disregard all existing evidence from the United Nations, the Red Cross, Médecins Sans Frontières etc. about the daily killing of civilians by British forces by just renaming them as ”Military Targets”
It means that Argentina can’t exclude or disregard the killing or maiming of 0 (Cero) defenseless civilians by its dastardly Armed Farces during their Malvinas Adventure.
It means that some totally undocumented urban legends about some “abandoned grenades” that didn’t harm even a cat on the Islands, are enough excuse for the British to steal 12,000,000 square km from a weaker Nation’s territory.
That what Islander1 post means to me.
You're one sick puppy.
(12,000,000 square km that was never yours)
My comment @18 “Do I have to remind these Brits that they are the ones that killed THOUSANDS of innocents children in Iraq and they are still doing the same nowadays in Afghanistan?”
Then @33 you wrote“You have yet to prove that anyone set out deliberately to kill MILLIONS of innocent children. It's rubbish”
Me, thousands, you millions, I posted facts, you look the other way and went shopping...typical woman.
42 Diddles/GY ZZZZZZZZZZ
May 12th, 2012 - 02:13 pm
I'd say what happened between Britain and Germany was also none of your business but that wouldn't be quite true would it? What with the legacy of your forefathers escaping to Argentina like rats deserting the sinking ship we now see their legacy laid bare.
Like you, they thought it was perfectly okay to bomb the shit out of women and children, invade other peoples territories, torture, pillage and comit gonocide. Like you they thought the only immoral act was when somebody dared to defend themselves how dare the UK stand in our way? Or anybody else for that matter and how dare you bomb our cities and our innocent civilians?
A word of advice. Live and let live. You leave us alone and we will leave you alone.
If the dastardly Argentinean Armed Farces had any intention to kill defenseless civilians, they could have easily done it during the more than 70 days they where in full control of the Islands…….
They didn't.
To Turnip (62)
Well…..
That’s where the problem lies….
You won’t leave us alone……
You come down here, 8,000 miles away from your Hood, with all your guns and try to steal 12,000,000 square miles of our territory.
No way, Jose
Are YOU on one our lists of argie criminals? What other categories might you come under? Too cowardly to go. One of the thousands that surrendered? Perhaps one of their vicious “officers”? What do you belong to now? The argie versions of the SS or Gestapo, Herr Gruppenfuhrer?
Only it never had it, it is not entitled to it and it is never going to get it.
Dream on Herman.
eeerrrrrmmm, and what about the Americans in WW2? were their squadrons of B17 loaded with flowers and pink fluffy things? What “Think” seems to forget is that it was called World War 2 for a reason, and that reason el Think, was that nearly the whole world was involved in it..... apart from Argentina. Let us not forget the contribution that Argentina made to the second world war..........
Ok, then. we can't.but that's ok, lets thank Argentina for giving the losers of ww2 somewhere to hide afterwards then.
I would like “Think” to answer my question from about a month ago though. In fact I think I'm being ignored because no one can answer it and that it “Can anyone name an Argentine war hero?” I suspect that I have ask the un-answerable question. If he / she can't answer it then I will have to throw it open to the floor.
What “Think” has forgotten in his rant is that “Gun's don't kill people, people kill people” A gun doesn't just shoot anyone. It has to be pointed and some one has to pull the trigger.
As 57 ChrisR said it was really nice to hear from the parents of these kids who obviously had a great time in Chile. I repeat what I said before that it would be super if they would make a few comments on here.
Yeah, you know what? It would, it would show everyone in Argentina how things could have been, if they all stopped hating long enough to give peace a chance.
write in english
I’m always amazed by the ignorance of the European Turnips about their own dirty history.
They speak about how justified they were in killing millions of dreadful Anglo-Saxon Nazi civilian cousins during WWII, .......conveniently forgetting Britain’s leading role in causing WWI and forcing through the disastrous Treaty of Versailles…..that conduced to nazism and WWII.
They speak about how justified they were in killing hundreds of thousands dreadful Iraqi Ba'athist civilians, conveniently forgetting Britain’s paramount responsibility in the division and destabilization of Iraq during most of the XX century.
They speak about how justified they are in killing tens of thousands dreadful Taliban Afghani civilians, conveniently forgetting the first, second and third Anglo-Afghan War……
The same Turnips that, after reading a pair of articles on ”The Sun”, believe themselves ”Experts” in Argentinean history and idiosyncrasy.
What a bunch of Turnips.
Haven't you got anything better to do than troll the turnips?
Give it up. It's going nowhere. Yes it's all Britain's fault- the 100 years war, the Napoleonic wars, WW1, WW2, the Vietnam War. Yes indeed; I wasn't born for any of them, but I accept full responsibility.
If we'd only followed the example of more enlightened countries during WW2, what a happier, more peaceful, more Aryan world we woud be in now. Can definitely see where you're coming from, Mr Swedish Turnip.
Do you know what we do with swedes in the Falkland Islands. Be afraid. The knives are sharpening.
That's all you need to know when dealing with Argtards.
Now let's get back to talking about a nice school trip where Falklanders made friends with Chileans.
Move along Fritz. There is nothing for you here.
I hope not the same what your people did/do in Iraq and Afghanistam.
People of the World, It's Time to get Paid.
www.britishreparations.org/commercial.php
No, Marcos. As far as I know, the Falkland Islanders have never chopped up Iraqis into small pieces and put them in a casserole.
Do try to keep up.
So now you are not British anymore?
Thanks for sticking to the subject, which was about how students from Chile and Falklands get along well together. We appreciate everything that you added, including the way that you stuck to the topic for once and didn't repeat the same copypasta over and over and over again..
Thanks,
Geoff.
Back from shopping, I see.
Hope you did spend all of Mr. M’s money……..
Will teach him not to spit to the side every time he hears the name “Argentina” :-)
You misunderstand (as usual) my point…..
It’s not “all Britain’s” fault… Not Colonialism, Imperialism, the 100 Years War, the Napoleonic Wars, WW1, WW2, the Vietnam War……..…whatever…….
There are many culprits… The Krauts, the Frogs, the Guidos, the Diegos, the Japs, the Yanks…. You name them.
Most of them thoug accept some degree of responsibility and show some remorse for the past misdeeds of their forefathers.
But not the British turnips in here…. There are proud and haughty about every single drop of innocent blood Britain has spilled over the centuries……
And you, my dear chicken feeding spearhead chick, are the perfect excuse for their wet dreams of murder and destruction to come through…..
“Most of them thoug accept some degree of responsibility and show some remorse for the past misdeeds of their forefathers.”
When are you Argies going to try that?
No but Dagmar Hagelin was
The nazi knows as does anybody else that the British have no more apologies to make to the world than anybody else and certainly no more than Argentina. It can also be deduced that the nazi will not be involved in the next attempted invasion of British sovereign territory in any other way than to provide moral support to far braver nazis than it. Just cheering the goose stepping swabs on a bit.
The nazi has finally succumbed to the 'tactic' of bringing up dubious claims irrelevant to the discussion in every single post. The nazi is stuck in a moment and it can't get out of it.
Sooner or later the nazi will realise what an utter throbber it sounds like and will snap out of it, put on it its 'nice' face and change the fecking record.
It isn't working Muller. Let it lie.
Took 30 years to do it, argie wheels of justice bit like you Marcos
Anyone got any thoughts on that? Or are we just going to through appeasement let the La Campora Sturmabteilung ruin another thread?
Well you know CFK was not afraid to put that killer in jail, and by the way since you are good counting Royal Marine Alan Addis disappeared in mysterious circumstances in August 1980, 32 years ago right?
Those kids do seem to be having a nice time together don't they, whereas if they'd gone to Argentina they'd be having to do goose-stepping and saluting statues of Nestor and Maximo.
I haven't spent any of Mr M's money, you'll be glad to know. I even bought him a present.
Anyway, I wouldn't name any of those nationalities in that way. It can't have escaped your notice that I'm not all that keen on racist and pejorative language.
I also think if you had really read the Guardian properly, you would know that there is a great deal of angst in Britain about our colonial past and about more recent events in Iraq and Afghanistan. It informs the treatment of the Falkland Islands by the left- wing press. As you well know.
I try not to to judge all Argentinians by the cretins you get on here. It would be quite nice if you could extend us the same courtesy.
Erm. Well done kids. It must be good to know there is at least one friendly country nearby that you can go to for a little change of scenery. Chile a grown up country.
These folks are precisely the reason people died to keep the falklands free from tyranny.
I thought it was a good idea. Did you read what Simon68 wrote at 68? Now there is one Argentine with his head screwed on straight.
This is good for the kids and the school and the islands. Broadening the minds of the kids, making new friends abroad and forging friendships with other countries. Argentina would do well to take note of all of this. Visits to Chile by Falkland Island schools, visits by Will Hague to declare “Friendship” ( That word again ) between our two countries..... what must KFC and her yesmen think?
You worry about your Desaparecidos right?
www.yendor.com/vanished/
I think it's better that the kids of the Falklands forge close relationships with Chilean kids, as can you imagine how La Sturmabteilung and KFC would front-load any intercultural exchange. It would be brainwashing central and forcing them all to sign some declaration of malvinas.
Anyways, it's nice to see them all enjoying life. What about exchanges with Uruguayans?
Sure, send them :) You will risk them wanting out of that Plato's cave though, they'll return calling themselves orientales... :)
Yup, there should be trips and trips and trips all over. The kids should be able to see as much of SA as possible. Get exposed to as many different cultures as possible. There should be exchanges so that the Chilean kids, Uruguayans, whoever can visit the islands and see that they are inhabited by people, just people. Not the monsters that the Argentinians rave on about.
But like you said, Argentina is not ready for this yet. We all know their idea of “intercultural exchange” and I bet the Falkland islanders don't want anything more to do with that thankyouohsoverymuch.
I know. Kids today eh?
That's right, he dissapeared in mysterious circumstances. Without finding his body they remain mysterious. Unlike in some countries our courts do not condemn people on the strength of gossip and hearsay.
I refuse to blaim the islanders though, they are all victims of britains invasive politics...
The British there don't tell their kids that some of them were born in Argentinean hospitals, like Adam C. in Comodoro and their former government official(nice lady), not to mention how much they enjoyed going back and from the islands to the mainland just in front of them or how much many of them enjoyed going to school over here at no charge.
@102“Without finding his body they remain mysterious”
That's right, some Brits over there did a great job hiding the young marine body and some more keeping a tight lip...
www.independent.co.uk/news/falklands-arrests-over-missing-marine-two-arrested-over-falklands-marine-1603200.html
This is an article about Falkland Islanders visiting South America, you lobotomised moron. How can you say we have 'no intentions of mingling with SA' when the article is all about us mingling with SA?
Goooooooood girl……..
Just a word of advice from an old fox….
Unless that gift was in a bottle or some kind og fishing tackle….
Just give him the money next time, instead of buying things one doesn’t need
THAT would make a Kelper man real happy.
If you had read my post No.: (80) properly, you would have noticed that I do not judge all Britons by the cretins present on here……..
I specifically wrote…......:
“BUT NOT THE BRITISH TURNIPS IN HERE…. They are proud and haughty about every single drop of innocent blood Britain has spilled over the centuries……”
Courtesy was extended before it was shown, dear lass.
As it should be.
“Apoyar la comunidad Chilena..” :-)) Did you write it yourself?
en.mercopress.com/2012/02/09/chilean-community-in-falklands-march-in-support-of-the-air-link-with-santiago
First (@108) Helmut Lebensraum. You morons seem cognitively incapable to deal with the fact that when you invaded the islands the trust was lost completely, and for generations and generations. The current doublespeak by your tyrannical rulers have removed the trust for generations and generations. The fact many of the Falklanders went to school in Argtardia and were born there means nothing any more, the world has moved on. You foggats really need to learn the consequences of your actions.
Secondly (@103) are you such a moron that you cannot understand that no one wants a cultural exchange with a country that wants the people ethnically cleansed. You have ruined the chance of cultural exchanges with the Falklanders because simply they don't want them with you. Your peronist-hitlerist culture is offensive to them, your lies are offensive to them, your attempts at stealing are offensive to them, your lack of consideration of their views is offensive to them, your demands that they speak spanish is offensive to them, your disregard for their laws is offensive to them, your propaganda is offensive to them, your thieving is offensive to them, your corruption is offensive to them, your lack of ability to realise that you invaded them is offensive to them, your lack of respect is offensive to them... et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
@104 “britains invasive politics” tells us that you're definitely an argtard, and La Sturmabteilung at that.
Better that those kids stick with making friends with Chileans and Uruguayans, because at least they won't try to harm them, or make them sign-up something saying 'we love peron and maximo'.
Sorry, Marcos. Until you grow a few more brain cells, I don't think we have anything to say to each other. Your post about how the Falkland islanders born in Argentina are kept in ignorance of the facts plumbed new depths of idiocy. Their birthplace in on thier passports ffs. Do you think they haven't noticed?
Or perhaps you are saying that they keep it secret from their own children? Absolute tosh. a friend of mine recently took his whole family to see his old school in BA. You're just making it up.
civilians who were targeted deliberatley by Hitler,s Germany? And think of who actually started it.
Argentine Grenades left primed as booby trpas in Childrens classrooms in Stanley - yes indeed- ask to look at the archive records of the british Engineers who cleared those building and made them safe.
I was in Stanley when they were clkeared - only 1/2 a block from where I was living. I was actually in the dockyard by the wool wharehouse when the engineers came out and told us what they had found and to move back and away.
I am so sorry if the truth does not make very good reading - but that sometimes is life old chap.
I like many am not over proud either about some of the things that Britain did in the past with the Empire etc!
But lets face facts - that was often how one did things those days - after all, are you proud of what your army did to the native indigenous Argentines of the Pampas and Patagonia in the mid 1800s?
Marcos , I can assure you that banner was indeed written by a Chilean living here in the Islands.
The fact is, the underlying cultural values are hideous. After the invasion the mentality of total disrespect remained, the pathological inability to understand the consequences of actions remained, and the incapability to apologise for the war remained. All they did was regress back to 1981 pretending it didn't happen and remained there ever since.
Just look at the foggatry that is spouted on this site, claiming that after booby-trapping schools and throwing land-mines around the Falklanders will embrace their culture willingly, before reaching a 'mutual agreement'. It's just lunacy that they think the Falklanders don't understand the lack of respect that Argies have for anyone, and that the cultural values of the Falklanders aren't completely opposed to those of the monsters.
The reason the Argtards refuse to accept self-determination is simply because they know the Falklanders would never ever accept the horrible values that Argentina stands for. No one in their right mind would.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-uNMZ1wfR4
Nobody will harm the islanders, look what you did to usa with your paranoia, they shoot eachother just in case... Stop waving with those guns, YOU are hurting children
The British guns are protecting the Falklands people from your psychological violence.
Let's keep to the subject, the joy of the kids meeting new friends and learning new things, this is what life is all about, not the sterile name calling by the contentios few.
Any islander can tell me that kinship between veronica and john fowler?
I watched a video of a news story by the newspaper Clarin of Buenos Aires to john Fowler.John speaks fluent Spanish and also John seems a nice person.
falklandsnews.wordpress.com/2012/05/13/c24-to-meet-in-ecuador/
It's nearly as much as when I see very-uncorrupt unbiased south american states Ecuador and Cuba are chairing the process, a country that wants Chile to give a lot of land to Bolivia, which it in turn wants to enter into a confederacy with. And of course Cuba is a great example of international good will. Basically they're Chavists, and we all know they support Argtardia's wish to annex extra land. Utter furking nonsense.
Falklands people rest assured, reason will win the day.
Great story about the kids and I loved reading it.
I don't think that there needed to be any worry though re any Argentine reaction, as I've gotta tell you that all of the Argentinians that I speak to and have become friends with..love all the children of the world and would not see any harm come to them.
Hopefully these trips will continue and perhaps be allowed to broaden in time? I hope so John...so you had better start saving up your pennies as I expect it was expensive, ha.
Up the Falklands! and peace to us all.
Once again that master of deception & slippery elusiveness shows his art.
Think, why do you come out with such obvious lies?
They can be easily refuted.
l was going to answer your ravings point by point but Conqueror has done it for me in his post #65.
lts not often that l agree with Conqueror but this time l wholeheartedly concur.
Well done, Conqueror.
And lslander @ post #112 has proved you lying about the booby-traps left by your heroic Argentine Army in schools etc. Despicable people.
@72Think,
l must also take issue with another of your ridiculous statements:-
“Britain's leading rôle in causing WWI”
Think, you are so far off the mark as to be laughable.
Must l give you a history lesson? lt seems so.
Britain's traditional enemy had been France(l know, l know!)
Britain was always on good terms with the north German states.
After Germany united in 1871, they looked around for an empire like all the other European nations.
Alas for them, most of the world was taken.
They came late & resented it. And so wanted other people's possesions.
Just like Argentina coming late on the scene & wanting British Antarctic territory.
Germany invaded France & Russia. They had planned it since at least 1900.
Britain was not obliged to come to France's aid but was to help Belgium.
Neutral Belgium was invaded by Germany as it was the quickest road to France.
Bullying tactics against a smaller nation, again similar to Argentina's attitude towards the Falklands.
Ergo Britain was at war with Germany.
Every schoolchild who learns about WWI knows all this except it seems señor Think.
Think, you'd better stay a turnip farmer, you're useless as a Historian.
Google Translate: These guys would be nice to share experiences with kids from schools in Argentina. Visiting Bariloche, San Martín de los Andes, Carlos Paz in Cordoba, or the North of Argentina, which is very cute. For example, take a trip together, with some college kids around here.
Better just stick with good countries like Chile and Uruguay and then let them visit Argentina when they're old enough to not get manipulated by Goebbels.
You Brits have not only been the most aggressive and destructive Imperial power on the face of the Earth for the best part of the last three centuries….
You have also the highest percentage of brainwashed, self deceiving and unrepentant population of them all……
And you, Kelpers, have a “Place of Honor” in all this “Britishmess”.
Not only are you a Colonial festering pimple on the South American Continent.
You are also the place of choice for the training of the modern “British Crusaders”
More than two thirds of the men listed below were trained on them Islands.
Are you going to erect a proud “War Memorial” for them too…?
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-10629358
You wrote
“You foggats really need to learn the consequences of your actions”
“Just look at the foggatry that is spouted on this site”
I didn't understand the meaning of that word so I look it up:
Definition: Faggot, often shortened to fag, is a pejorative term and common slur used chiefly in North America against homosexual males
Ohh did you learn that word in US?
Look if some people decided to be gay is not of my business to judge them, by the way I can see that you are doing a great “job” defending Malvinas from penguins in this video...
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ljm1oymSv1k&feature=fvsr
Oh dear the sacry nazi still hasn't found its nice face. It has forgotten how to smile.
Get over it.
@132 I said foggatry, not faggotry, so learn to read. Besides, we know Maximo's La Sturmabteilung encourages greek-style pederasty so no one is judging you either.
I “Think” That Think is “Projecting” again.
“You have also the highest percentage of brainwashed, self deceiving and unrepentant population of them all……”
See how accurately he just discribed the entire population Of Argentinaland? Never mind. I'm just waiting for him to call someone a turnip, then we can all go home
121 Simon68 - Nice one matey!!! Well said as usual, but as usual, the voice of reason is lost in the manic shouting.
Last week the Falklanders were hostages to the evil colonial British Empire, and this week they're squatters!
No wonder Argentina is in such a mess. Your government needs to grow up and start facing the actual problems that face Argentina.
If by some miracle Argentina gained sovereignty over the islands Argentina would still be teetering on the brink of financial oblivion. All this crap about the Falklands is a massive diversionary tactic by your government.
Every one in the world can see it, except poor deluded 'turnips' like you.
The crash will come soon now, probably made all the worse by your government constantly lying about how great the economy is doing.
And once it has crashed, Think, who will be to blame? People like you think, because you didn't THINK at all, you just obeyed like a good little robot.
Back to the story however. It's good to see cultural exchange between two neighbours like this. Long may it continue.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=igPD1uXn-3U
May 13th, 2012 - 01:59 pm
Where did you get the info about 2/3 of the British Killed in Afghanistan trained in the Falklands? A citation please.
44 GreekYoghurt You wrote “See you at the ICJ, faggots”
en.mercopress.com/2012/02/14/don-t-cry-for-argentina
See, you just search that word and one of your many names in MercoPress and you can find that, I read it right, is just after your “own”people told you not use it you just changed a little bit.
Keep dancing in Malvinas GY
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ljm1oymSv1k&feature=fvsr
It came to 'I don't Think' in a vision.
A vision of lies, obfurscation and deceit: just normal, everyday visions for him.
Got any opinions on the article or just intent on praying to maximo?
Yes I have an opinion about the article but I don't discuss it with a British Wannabe.
Get over it.
Do you know that after looking up that link that you posted? I felt really quiet nauseous knowing that the eyes of a person such as yourself ( a Hemorrhoid of Asteroid proportions) had gazed upon their faces....
I quote you here “You Brits have not only been the most aggressive and destructive Imperial power on the face of the Earth for the best part of the last three centuries” Peace be upon you man..you'll give yourself a squint !
'You have also the highest percentage of brainwashed, self deceiving and unrepentant population of them all……'
Based on what, exactly? Highest percentage compared to what? Unrepentant for what? This is pitiful.
And how do you measure 'brainwashing' in percentage terms anyway? Get a grip.
And yes, we might erect a war memorial to them if we feel like it. It's no concern of yours.
I'd say Argentina has more experience in this subject given that they start the indoctrination at school.
You really are a nasty little low life.
You take pleasure in reading lists of military deaths and then you lie - “More than two thirds of the men listed below were trained on them Islands”
It is no wonder that nobody from the Falkland Islands would want to send their children to visit Argentina.
Looking forward to the evidence to back up your latest claim - as there are a mere 150 army soldiers here at a time fpr 3-4 months thats barely 500 different people in a year so not quite sure how it stacks up that 66% of the army have been here since Afghanista started!
Totally different terrain as well - the lads do get valuable training here - but not for that operation!
The Falkland Islands are not on the South American continent they sit on the Falkland Plateau hundreds of miles away from South America.
As far as brainwashing goes CFK and the politburo are doing a fine job of corrupting minds plainly evidenced by the fact that Argentina sits in 100th place in the World's Corruption Index of nations in between Benin and Burkina Faso. Think...
@132 Poor fool. Name one other species on this planet where the same sex of the same species has sexual relations. “Gays” should be neutered as soon as their unnatural tendencies are detected. But that's not the worst part. The worst part is the “politically-correct” term “gay”. Time was that they were called what they really are. “Queer.”
@142 Then STFU. @145 And FO.
And now a few words specifically for Twinky. How's your day, war criminal? Reminiscing about those “good days” on the Falklands when you could exercise your sadism on your own troops? Wonder how many you shot in the back? Did you eat when they couldn't? Did you ever actually face a British soldier? Did you ever leave argieland? You like to “talk the talk” but have you ever dared to “walk the walk”? Would you ever dare to face someone British with a weapon in your hands? Maybe you would. Throwing away your weapon is the best indication of surrender. Unlike the white surrender flag argies used to try to kill British troops. Unlike the Red Cross symbols argies used to avoid targeting of their positions. I am actually quite proud of myself. Just thinking of argies and argieland makes me feel physically sick. I just hope I can tell our troops what to do with you.
I AM TEACHING HIGH SCHOOL,,, I WOULD LIKE TO VISIT THE ARGENTINE MALVINAS BOYS BOYS AND VISIT ARGENTINA KELPES (ONLY FRIENDSHIP,,, NOTHING BUT NO POLITICS) ..... THAT'S MY DESIRE
That's why all these small little battles on here are a waste of time. If they want to think that the British are the worst people on earth, who gives a shit? Ifthey think the UK military is training for WW3 in theislands, who gives a shit?
What they think actually makes not a shred of difference. So I say let them go for it. The higher they get themselves the harder they fall.
Deadbeats. LOL!
... y nosotros también somos un gran país. Estás invitado a mi casa, sólo tenés que escribirme un mail.
Google Translate: I am not agree with the policies of Kirchner. I only spoke of exchanges of experience among high school youth. Boys and girls of the islands, with boys and girls from Argentina. Just that.
... and we also are a great country. You're invited to my house, you only have to write me a mail.
Yer but no but yer but no but................
.................Argentine Malvinas you said? No politics you said? In the same sentence you said?
I think my brain just dried up.
Beyond that, I also know of no one who gives a fark what those kid think of me. They are strangers, who cares.
Think, I believe you went way over the top, in a few comments you approached Conqueror territory. They really sounded rather hateful and lacked decorum. At some point, this Falklands issue becomes an obsession and I would suggest that for the argie government and some argentines it has indeed become a consuming obsession.
Really, it isn't worth the time or energy, and much less to resort to some of the poor language used.
Would you care to be a bit more specific about which one of my comments you disapprove upon?
Or do I have to assume that you are commenting about some comments you haven't even read?
The only entity that recognizes Britain's claim to the Antarctic is the United Kingdom. No one else does or will, and certainly should they make a move there someday they won't have any one in SA on their side, not even the Chileans (since they would be attacking their claim too).
Wrong.
The UK, France, Australia, New Zealand and Norway all recognize each others' claims to Antarctica.
All of Latin America recognizes the Argentine and Chilean claims.
So what?
Means nothing either way.
No official, independent entity recognizes your claim, and you are outnumbered by argies in Antarctica anyway. So any self-determination vote would fall our way over almost all other nation.
www.indexmundi.com/antarctica/population.html
We have the most people, we have the longest uninterrupted presence, and the first country with a permanent settlement, school, newspaper, radio, and people born there. And in most news from Antarctica even here at Mercopress, it is the Argentine military involved in operations to assist.
Britain will not have any role in Antarctica if Argentina does not have any. Simple as that. Population wise you lose, logistically you lose , geographically you lose , and in terms of countries support (you have 5 countries we have over 20), you lose.
You can have a part of Antarctica, after we have our portion. Sorry.
“Lousy” is on you, mister......................... I didn't use that word......
“Squatters” I have been calling the Islanders since day one, because that is exactly what they are, since 1833 when the British Empire kicked the Argentinean settlers out.
“A Colonial festering pimple on the South American Continent” summarizes perfectly my feelings and the feelings of many other Southamericans about the Colonial prescence of Great Britain in the South Atlantic, using the Malvinas Islands as their operational center for their appropiation of 12,000,000 square km of territory.
The day the Kelpers cease to be an active British Troyan Horse in the South Atlantic is the day they will cease to be a Colonial festering pimple on the South American Continent and become an integral part of our region.
Maybe you may seem a bit exaggerated fears of Greek yogurt but remember that there was a war at home while you and I look at the war for tv
But given the harsh comments from some Argentines who use the internet to fight a war of words that do not lead to anything positive.
You say: “It would be beautiful children came” I argue the same as you but I think for a long time will not be possible.
first The Argentines must learn to love the Islanders
Another thing I agree with you: Argentina is a great country! despite the continuing bad decisions of our leaders for a long time ago
They do? Which one? They overlap. By simple common sense and logic a country can not support both claims, they conflict. Perhaps you're talking out of your bottom?
“So what?
Means nothing either way.”
I completely agree, you was the one who brought it up, as at the time it must have meant something otherwise you would have not mentioned it, but i see now that you've been proven wrong it is no longer important.
“So any self-determination vote”
This is the best part. Argentina claims we have no rights to the Falklands as the islanders are “Implanted” Yet Argentina claims the Antarctic on an implanted population?
Classic stuff, really.
Argentina, the government specially, should leave the islanders alone and forget about them. On that one I'm fully on the side of the Brits here.
Think, the Falkland Islands may be used as a military base for Antarctica, but it does nothing on itself to help Britain's claim. Argentina will get a portion of Antarctica before Britain does, because what counts is the present, not past claims or who got their first, same as in all other landmasses.
Since Argentina has the most people in the continent, the longest uninterrupted presence of boots on the ground, the first permanent settlement, and is a major logistical actor there, those present-day facts completely trump and drown any other feeble claims of first sight. And even in that the Falklands have nothing to do with anything. It would be like Iceland claiming the whole arctic because they got “close” to there first.
I fully agree with you that this issue can only be solved with less hatred and more love, but you fail to realize that 80% of the posters in here are british warmonkeys whos relation to the islands are them being stationed there, or they are simply brits defending their right to point guns at people.
Their only contribution to these threads are personal attacks and warmonkeying in general...
If you want a serious discussion with any islanders, this is not the place.
Generalising, I don't know what common folks think about the islanders in Argentina, and I do realize that this agenda put up by CFK is not helping in their love, but pointing fingers at Argentina, refusing to realize it takes two to tango is just bullocks...
Of the seven countries who’s claims are listed in the Antarctic Treaty, five (Britain, France, Norway, Australia and New Zealand) all recognise each others claims.
Two (Argentina and Chile) are not recognised by any other claimants.
The British have also registered claims to the sea bed around the British territories.
Pretty much a done deal.
The Argentine base in Antarctica stands on British territory, and was first built and occupied by the British.
Britain will have a role in Antarctica whether Argentina likes it or not. Not to say that Argentina won’t have a role, but it won’t be decided or dictated by Argentina.
Argentina claiming Antarctica on the basis of a population implanted on someone else’s territory, that would be funny!.
We should all leave it be.
“or they are simply brits defending their right to point guns at people.”
Quite funny really. The only time anyone has pointed a gun at anyone in the last 150 years on those islands was when Argentina came for a house warming party,
It is not British territory, sorry. You can keep saying it however, it just doens't bring it an inch closer to realism.
The recognition are irrelevant, though they seem to contain an obvious racist overtone to it (exclude European nations). We don't recognize your recognitions... how about that. So they are meaningless really.
You have a right to the British territories and the sea bed, but Antarctica is not a British territory. Keep dreaming though that your self-recognition amounts to recognition :)
The Argentine base? There are multiple argie bases and all were built by Argentina. You are simply lying through your teeth now. How sad.
Do I really need to bring more links?
All that said, I have no problem with the UK or any other country being in Antarctica peacefully.
I think what you are saying Pugol is the UK will use force to ensure their Antarctic claims. Yet all brits keep saying the colonial days are over to us argies.
LOL
Hows the Argie cunning plan to prevent cruise ships popping in to the Falklands going? I seem to remember you stating it was only a matter of time, took the liberty of looking up the 2013 trips and guess what :-)))))
Cruises visiting Port Stanley, Falkland Islands during January 2013
www.cruisetimetables.com/visitingportstanleyfalklandislands-jan2013.html
www.virginholidayscruises.co.uk/azamara-cruises-azamara-quest-falkland-islands-16-nights-january-2013-0156826-holiday.php
you say: “If you want a discussion Serious With Any islanders, this is not the place.”
I am not here for any discussion I'm here to meet the islanders
'To compete on British soil, we train on Argentine soil'
www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AfIWccFJbk
Last time I checked, Uruguay was in the south pacific...
Pardon me for my wrong choice of verb, I meant a dialogue... Still, not many islanders here, mostly a bunch of gun-rattling, bad-mouthed warmonkeys upset for being denied by the sheep...
To compete and win on British soil, we train on Argentine soil.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPvmjwcPLFo&feature=relmfu
(new video)
1833 - care to list the names of the civilians who were kicked out as you claim?
You know very well that what you said there is a straight lie! You know that your own Country,s Archives show the facts- the military personnel from B.A. and their families/attatchments or whateved were the only persons ordered to leave by the British. All others were invited to stay and all did so bar 2 couples- 1 Uruguyan and 1 Brazilian.
Colony - do please check the traditional meanin of the word.
No folks here forced to live under the control of Government the do not want.
No native persons forced out of territory by incoming people form alsewhere.
The folks living here freely elect their own Govt which decides all the laws that operate within the Islands and this same locally elected Govt exercises full control over its offshore resources such as they may be within its EEZ.
Of their own free will and votes the population here elects to
maintain ultimatepolitical links with the UK who takes on responsibility for Defence and Foreign Policy and is responsible to the UN to ensure that good open free democratic Govt and human rights etc operate in the Islands
Now, we are aware of a neighbouring Country that claims us as theirs and has written such into its Constitution - imprescriptible rights is I believe the phrase used to describe it?
The Govt spokespersons for this Country have many times made it clear publicly that the people who live here should have no say at all in the matter and their wishes and democratic rights are irrelevant.
Same Govt seeks to limit free movement of people and goods in and out of the Islands through a variety of measures all of which contravene the International “norms”.
Wonder where the real Colonialists of 2012 are eh?
Oh dear, did-dums, 80% on here are British warmonkeys, you claim!
Been doing arithmetic have you? Pity you have got it wrong again. Marine Engineer course didn't have mathematics then, or logic? Because you certainly do not exhibit a grasp of either.
How many of your malevolent Malvanists are there? Or, is it that there are only a few, but like you they have two or more tag names?
If you want to talk about warmonkeys in truth, look to the country that has your rabid support. The same country who brought war to the Falklands (there are no Malvinas) in 1982.
Perhaps when you mature a bit, though I am not at all sure that is possible, you will see Argentina as all the rest of the world see it: a failed country that is failing yet again.
I told you before, and I tell you again; the ones that invaded the islands were a bunch of fascists that abused their own people, a military dictatorship that did NOT represent the Argentinian people (otherwise they would've elected them, don't you think?), so stop playing the victim card in order to defend a militarization of the islands.
I'm sure Argentina are wrong in many things, but as an Uruguayan, I don't want Britains loaded guns anywhere near me, especially not with your parkinsoned trigger fingers.
I have nothing against the islanders, and I have always stated so. They are the rightful inhabitants of the islands and I would never deny them that right. My issue is with the british warmonkeys.
By the way, why are you so upset with the Malvinas name? That's the spanish name for the islands, not the argentinian name, but spanish. Like George and Jorge... In english they are called the Falklands, in spanish, las Malvinas...
In the year 2012 practicing and improving their “spanish” language in Chile ?....Such poor education is so different from my elementary years spent during the 1958 in my elementary/secondary schools en Comodoro Rivadavia ( Mi Patagonia querida) in which foreign languages such as english, french and italian was taught and mandatory spoken by teachers and students.
The following video is a tribute to the beatles played by the musical group Argentino “The Barbarians”
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fqs3SBgHU6o
May 13th, 2012 - 11:06 pm
What are you talking about? Who is “atrasado”? These children went on a school trip to visit a neighbouring country whose language happens to be Spanish. Judging from your rather poor use of the English language your education in 1958 in Comodoro Rivadavia was pretty sketchy, especially if you've lived since then in the USA.
your comment is pathetic and aggressive. Do you teach them these children to be educated? is preferable that they speak Spanish badly and not be as pathetic as you are.
Chnaging the subject to bang on about what happened in WW2 shows the moral bankruptcy of your own arguments.
Using the amount of people killed in other wars is a piss poor way of justifying your actions.
Besides- the Germans thought it was funny to bomb us - they invented the word “coventrate” to describe the destruction of our cities. They also liked bombing other countries cities flat too.
I am glad we paid them back in spades - it wiped the superior smug grins off their faces and gave them a dose of what they did to us. I'll quote bomber Harris again “they sowed the wind, now they shall reap the whilrlwind”.
Sorry to keep changing the subject back to what the story was about in the first place but I think it was good, good for the children, good for Chile and good for the Falkland Islanders that this trip was a success. I glad to see that a SA country is ignoring all the noise and rattle coming from Argentinaland and has extended the olive branch to the FI.
I'm sure that if they keep this going the next generation of Islanders will look upon Chile as a trusted friend and partner in the years to come.
Integration is the key :)
Hopefully, we'll see them in Uruguay some day...
falklandsnews.wordpress.com/2012/05/14/cold-hearted-indifference-to-falklanders-wishes/
Did we hit a raw nerve, you squatting, lying, sanctimonious old blowhard?
(who is living on stolen land).
You know full well that no Argentines(?) were evicted.
You know full well that their descendents still live on the lslands.
lt must hurt your stupid pride to realise that even they DO NOT want to be Argentines!
Ergo:- you are lying once again.
(even if they had been evicted as you erroneously state, SO WHAT? They were trespassing on British land).
Please take note of what shb @post #186 said.
So it was all right was it for the Germans to devastate Warsaw, Rotterdam, Minsk & Coventry, but NOT ALRIGHT for us to give them back the same?
Get real.
You are a fool, Think.
And l thought that you were intelligent!
@163 tobias,
An “implanted” population, wouldn't you say?
Pathetic really.
You Argentines even flew a pregnant woman to Antarctica so that she could have her baby in British territory.
Smacks of desperation to me!
@189 LordTon,
Excellent Article M'Lord.
I like your thought about a future good relationship with Chile but the truth is that The Falklands already has a long standing excellent relationship with Chile. It is a great country and the people are lovely. Unfortunately the Argentinians don't like our friendship and have been using political leverage to try to destroy it. I hope we manage to keep the friendship alive despite the interference.
And to you Argentines who think we should send our children to you .... are you mad? All we hear from you on a daily basis is venom and spite. Our children read the newspapers and listen to the news and are forming an opinion of you based on your actions. As this has been the case for at least 30 years you have not only persuaded the children to be concerned about you but their parents also.
Why don't you send your children over here for a couple of weeks? It would give them a chance to improve their English and learn about our culture.
Nothing Argentina can do. Argentina does not have a claim !!
“Did we hit a raw nerve, you squatting, lying, sanctimonious old blowhard?”
I don't know why you just didn't tell him straight?
I am wondering as to why he refers to himself as “Think” ? seems a contradiction is in progress here..I wonder if it's because opposites attract?
Up the Falkland Islanders and confusion to the Enemas! no not wrong spelling.
Did you buy the irish butter for Yankee?? He only eats that.
There is a blockade only its not very interesting and I suppose we had forgooten all about it.
I'm increasingly convinced you are not a real troll but just software .... an Argie propagandabot programmed to go off topic whenever it detects the Argentinian cause is slipping.
May 14th, 2012 - 02:34 pm
I think even an Argentine propagandabot would be able to spell properly. I think malen is a retarded schoolgirl probably living in Villa 21.
You ask me; on what exactly do I base my argument about Britain having the highest percentage of brainwashed, self deceiving and unrepentant population of them all……
Well………….. We do not need to go very far for an answer, lass.
You showed your own self-deceive at (22) by saying to Marcos Alejandro that:
“Britain has not 'intentionally killed thousands of innocent children'. Either post the evidence or shut up.”
At (25), I called your attentionto the fact that some 80,000 children from your Saxon cousins were bombed by the Brits during WWI,..... you answered, haughty and unrepentant at (33)..........:
“Not my cousins, Pal. I'm mostly Celt.”
At (53) Islander1 showed his own self-deceive by saying......:
“I would exclude what UK and Germany did to each other in WW2”
Wooooow, that was easy………..Real easy............
A long list of brainwashed, self deceiving and unrepentant British Turnips followed, each one with a “good excuse” for unnecessarily bombing 80,000 innocent children….
Culminating with Mr. shb at (186), proudly writing….:
“I am glad we paid them back in spades - it wiped the superior smug grins off their faces and gave them a dose of what they did to us.”
Juppppp…....... I can easily visualize ”that superior smug grin on those 80,000 children’s faces, just before the blast”.
As I have said before……:
Britain has the highest percentage of brainwashed, self deceiving and unrepentant population of them all.
Their comments speak for themselves……………
PS:
(190) Isolde
I like you too, dahling........................
mai espeling is veri veri veri gud. If you dont like it, who cares.
And if Im of Villa 21, whats the problem, Saimon???Some racism I found in that
Where are you from Saimon?? Recoleta Hollywood???
@163 I could point out all your fallacies, but I don't care enough. Small point. International law is on Britain's side. And argieland won't have a claim when it's a glass crater. And you're getting closer to that on a daily basis. Be sensible. Settle for a snowball.
@167 Pity for you. As the Antarctic Treaty “suspends” matters. It doesn't turn them back to zero. So Britain made the first claim. Britain gave argieland its first settlement. And as for argies “hatched” in Antarctica, so what? Going to lay claim to every aircraft, vessel etc on which an argie was spawned? Grow up!
@168 So?
Point 1 - F*** off.
Point 2 - When you stop waging war against the Falklanders, we might stop pointing guns. But guns are all you understand.
Point 3 - Gets your attention, doesn't it? But WE aren't going to leave 3,000 Islanders to face 41 million argie scumbags. To get to them you're going to have to go through us. And you know you can't!
@171 “In 1903, the Scottish National Antarctic Expedition established Osmond House, a meteorological observatory on Laurie Island in the South Orkneys. A year later, ownership of the base was passed to Argentina and it was renamed to Orcadas Base. It is the continent's oldest permanent base, and, until World War II, the only one present.” So how much of your comment is lies? Look at that. A base built by Scotland and “given” to argieland.
@177 No argie soil involved. Unless you're talking about how easily argies soil themselves. The “new” argie fragrance. Eau de sh*t!
@180 A bunch of ARGIE fascists. Supported by the entire argie population. Uruguayans that support argies are scum. Second-class scum.
@188 Not with YOU there.
you provide a link to a Guardian article written by John Pilger, the same person who also believes America allowed 9/11 to happen. among many of his other conspiracy articles - the Americans got it wrong about the JFK assassination etc..
Unfortunately you, with all the links you post, are the one who appears to be brainwashed.
And do you really think that the people who post on here are a statistically representative sample of the population of Britain? Or Argentina?
Quite apart from that, you're not going to troll me into sypathising with the poor old Nazis, look what nasty Britain did to them, and all they did was drop some bombs, and the the mean old British went and dropped lots of bombs and that was hardly fair.
It's a pitiful line of argument, and it's not reflecting well on you. Once you start feeling superior on account of thinking you killed a few less children than the other side in an all out war that happened 70 years ago,you're in a dark and difficult place. I'm not even going to ask why you've decided to identify your cause with that of Nazi Germany.
Unfortunately the casualties of WW2 are estimated at 60 million.
Also
“Full statistics for the tragic fate of children who died during the Holocaust will never be known. Some estimates range as high as 1.5 million murdered children. This figure includes more than 1.2 million Jewish children, tens of thousands of Gypsy children and thousands of institutionalized handicapped children who were murdered under Nazi rule in Germany and occupied Europe.”
So please drop all this nonsense about comparing casualties!
I am sorry but you are really a sad bit of humanity.
I tried first with the very fresh example of what you Brits did in Iraq……
I then tried with the even fresher example of what your Brits are doing in Afghanistan…..
Want to see some British brainwash in action?...
Read comment (200) from Mr. Leiard ……
That’s why I used a perfect documented and undeniable example of unnecessary and deliberate killing of 600,000 civilians, 80,000 of them children, during WWII.
Half of those civilian casualties happened in the very last weeks of the war, when Germany was already defeated, their cities defenceless and full of refugees.
You response?
Accusing me of siding with the Nazis!
I can only repeat………….. You Brits are the most brainwashed, self deceiving and unrepentant of them all……
How about an update. What progress has Argentina made in the last week to get closer to getting their hands on the Falklands? None that I can see but I'm sure the deadbeats will enlighten me.
What about the famous 02 May deadline issued to companies involved in exploration in the islands? Has any of them received writs yet?
Here's one you'll have to put your memory caps on for. What ever happened to the president of Argentina and the president of Chile making their joint declaration about the Falklands? Remember after they met in January this year? CFK said there would be a joint declaration afterwards. It never happened.
How come LAN is still operating? Couldn't CFK stop it? What happened to her offer to provide flights from the country of Argentina to the Falkland Islands?
What's the latest for the poor old Argentine-born Spanish hockey player who furked up his sporting career in one clever move? Who else filmed adverts? There were a few other athletes over there doing the same thing. Will the other adverts get aired or weren't they made yet? Will the ad agency have finished them if they still weren't made by the time the trouble surfaced?
Answers please anybody.
Think, you are the one trying to prove that it DID happen. When you state that something happened, as you are doing, the burden of proof falls on you. That is the way that it works. I would say that YOU, are far more brainwashed than anyone on here (well, except perhaps for Malviner01 but lets not talk about him).
Malvinista deadbeat response:
The Commentator is nothing but US-Euro-trash and it is well known that it is funded by the UK and the USA with the sole purpose of repressing South America. LIES LIES LIES!! ALL LIES!! I HATE THEM I HATE THEM. Friends of British pirates.
Anyway, who cares what the world thinks of us. We don't care. Except the world supports us over the Falkland Islands. We don't need to borrow money. We can do it ourselves.
Go home to bankrupt Britain you thieving lying pirate squatters!
“The last few dozen posts are pointless circular arguments. A waste of time. ”
Joe in some ways you are correct but you have just as much chance of getting an answer to your questions as we have by pointing out the inaccuracies of posts by Think, Guzz, Max and others.
We all rise to bait when lies and miss-truths are posted.
Don't get me wrong. I'm not suggesting people shouldn't partake; I'm just saying I'm not going to. Think and the other deadbeats are just stalling by throwing that shit into the pot while they pray that some better news comes along from somewhere for them. You go for it mate. If they've thrown some crap at you have fun throwing some back.
I'd rather stick to the main story beneath all Falklands stories on Mercopress: The sovereignty of the Falkland Islands.
Some people on here, I think, sometimes get drawn in to these side-show events and start to think they matter. I just keeping my eye on the ball; that's all. I know the deadbeats won't answer my questions because the answers are all bad.
Chuckle chuckle.
Cheers.
This article is about “Falklands’ students spend time in Punta Arenas as part of an exchange program”
I know what you posted. What I don't understand is why. It has no relevance to anything being discussed here. I suggest you go away and have a nice private conversation with Malen (unless you are she).
You say:
What I don't understand is why......
I say:
Because:
”22 Monty69 (#)
May 12th, 2012 - 04:53 am
21 Marcos Alejandro
Britain has not 'intentionally killed thousands of innocent children'.
Either post the evidence or shut up.”
My mistake, you're actually Marcos.
And you didn't post any evidence of intent to kill children.
It has been British territory since long before any Argentinian ever set foot there, or are you suggesting that by setting foot there all previous history becomes irrevelant?.
With no population able to claim historical rights there, the issues become proximity and history. With proximity the British are as well placed as anyone, with history the British are better placed than anyone. These are the facts.
I agree the recognitions (on both sides) are now largely irrelevant, I was merely pointing out that other countries do recognise the British claim, in response to your comment:
“The only entity that recognizes Britain's claim to the Antarctic is the United Kingdom”
I don’t think there was any racist element in it, simply that the five countries had there claims done and recognised by each other, long before Argentina and Chile ever even thought about it.
My point is that the British have a very strong claim to their Antarctic territory, when the time comes (which it inevitably will) for the carve up, as it did in the Artic.
That is not to say Argentina does not have a claim, but as under the Antarctic treaty nothing you do can be used to enhance a claim, Argentina’s relatively recent population build up will not count for anything. If it could, all countries would be doing it.
To suggest that the British claim in Antarctica is in anyway dependant upon Argentina is nonsense. Any more than Argentina has any influence whatsoever over what happens in Falklands waters.
As you point out the British do have the military capability to defend their interest in the region against colonial encroachment from S America. Unlike Atahualpa, the British have more than just bows and arrows with which to defend their territory.
But when it comes to slander,
Nothing compares with nuns out of helicopters.
As the blog says
Falklands’ students spend time in Punta Arenas as part of an exchange program
It was for the children,
That’s all it was .
.
I specifically said discount WW2 as it WAS a total war - and terrible things happen - clue is in the word total. Next thing you will be blaming the US for nuking Japan in 1945 - even though it saved several million lives on both sides in the end.
Still waiting for the proof of eviction of all the civilians in 1833 as well? Guess I will wait a lonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnng time!
From the silence I take it that you now accept that childrens classrooms etc here were indeed booby trappped in June 1982 by retreating Arg forces.
Anyway - here is to the strenghtening educational ties the Islands have with Southern Chile and may they continue to grow.
The more he thinks about it,
The more it rhymes.
,,,,,
Confuse them with dates
Confuse them with years
More Argies that think about it,
The more they cry tears.
Well as
Unibond once said,
Stick with me son,
And our partnership is sealed.
.
Well they are not Swedes (keep blabbering in Danish) ergo they must be turnips.
topveg.com/2010/07/the-difference-between-swedes-and-turnips/
Alias Ersatz Argies.
Its ridiculous. And the HRW more too. The westerns failing with this. In my opinion.
May 15th, 2012 - 12:09 am
What on earth has your comment to do with children visiting southern Chile. Why don't you look for a thread that deals with Libya?
They should'nt have invaded a host of countries that were neutral and had no interest or wish to be a part of the war.
They should'nt have herded millions of people into extermination camps, or enslaved millions of others.
They should'nt have treated the peoples of eastern europe as subhuman scum and subject them to horrific ethnic cleansing and starvation.
You would probably have prefered for us to surrender - so that the Germans could have implemented their occupation plan - deportantion and extermination of the British Jewish community and all opponents of the Nazi regime. Deportation for slave labour for the vast majority of British males.
The bombing saved thousands of allied ground troops lives by disrupting the German economy and forcing them to skew production towards air defence.
They acted in a totally abhorent way on every level.
I don't care how many of them died, it was total war. The lesson Germany learned was that war was'nt so much fun when someone can give you a dose of what you've been handing out.
Don't go to war unless you are prepared for people to fight back desperately and dish out to you what you are doing to them. Heed that lesson well if CFK tries anything against us.....
“next thing you will be blaming the US for nuking Japan”
one of these malvinistas, l think it was tobias, has already done just that, a few weeks ago.
l pointed out to him that without nuking Japan, the war was estimated to last until 1947 or 1948 & cost at least 1 million Allied lives.
Of course he never replied.
As Corporal Jones says-“they don't like it up 'em”
@222 shb,
lts estimated that the Russians lost 20 million citizens(military & civilians).
l've been to Minsk, looking for my Grandfather's relations.
The city was almost completely destroyed by the Germans & the population scattered or exterminated. Never found them.
@197 Think,
l probably would like you, Think, if you weren't so anti-British.♥
Of course we're unrepentant, Think!
Also intransigent, stubborn,warlike(when we have to be!)& damned proud of it all, too!
But it really gets up your nose that we're proud to be British.
You can't help it if you envy us, poor Thinkus lad.
Oh well, thats the demon in your head that you'll have to live with.
Believe in Karma, Think?
You'll probably be born a British woman next time around! snigger.
This is what the German Luftwaffe were up to in a country that they were not even in a state of war with.
Bombing of Guernica,
The bombing of Guernica (April 26, 1937) was an aerial attack on the Basque town of Guernica, Spain, causing widespread destruction and civilian deaths, during the Spanish Civil War. The raid by planes of the German Luftwaffe “Condor Legion” and the Italian Fascist Aviazione Legionaria was called Operation Rügen.
The number of victims of the attack is disputed; The Basque government reported 1,654 people killed, although modern speculations suggests between 126 to 400 civilians died.[1][2][3] Russian archives reveal 800 deaths on May 1, 1937, but this number may not include victims who later died of their injuries in hospitals or whose bodies were discovered buried in the rubble.[4] The bombing has often been considered one of the first raids in the history of modern military aviation on a defenceless civilian population, and denounced as a terrorist act,[by whom?] although the capital (Madrid) had been bombed many times previously.[5] The bombing was the subject of a famous anti-war painting by Pablo Picasso. It was depicted by Heinz Kiwitz, a German artist who made a woodcut of it[6] and later was killed fighting in the International Brigades.[7] The bombing shocked and inspired many artists: Guernica is also the name of one of the most violent of René Iché sculptures, one of the first electroacoustic music by Patrick Ascione, of a musical composition[8] by René-Louis Baron and a poem by Paul Eluard (Victory of Guernica). There is also a short film from 1950 by Alain Resnais entitled Guernica.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Guernica
I remember the news reports just after the falklands war, of the clean up operation and how the Argentine forces put a big red cross on all their store houses, ammunition dumps etc, etc so they wouldn't get shelled or bombed and also the ones about the Agentine soldiers sh*tting in classrooms, hospitals, Post Offices or anywhere when they felt the need to go. And there is of course the reports of the ransacking of Islanders homes by the retreating Argentine forces, this was particularly well documented at Goose Green but bobby trapping classrooms????? That didn't make it into the news as far as I can remember. I could of course be wrong and either forgot it happened or didn't want to believe they had done that. Well it just goes to show:- “Never underestimate an Argentine”
Well, it's your fault, you must have taught her we have three arms and four legs. Oh, and by the way, Chileans have the worst spanish accent ever, next time send her to Uruguay, we share the Rio de la Plata accent that's going to be very useful in Malvinas in a couple of years' time
Well it does seem that you style yourself after a very illustrious and Heroic Murderer indeed.
This man so frightened the women and children that they fled from him and his co murderer companions...do you suppose that they were afraid of their appearance ..the three arms and extra legs? nothing to scare a child there then!
or could it have been the blood on their hands?
Antonio Rivero,
Rivero was born in Concepción del Uruguay, at that time a rural village in Entre Ríos Province, Argentina on November 27, 1808.
When he was about 20 years old, he was taken to the Falkland Islands by Luis Vernet, to work as a gaucho. Conditions of employment caused discontent among Vernet's workers. They were paid with promissory notes which Matthew Brisbane, Vernet's deputy, devalued following the reduction in Vernet's fortunes.[2] On August 26, 1833, eight months after the British returned to the Falkland Islands, Rivero led a group of Creoles and Indians in an attack against the senior members of Vernet's settlement.
His co-conspirators were two gauchos, Juan Brasido and José María Luna, and five Charrúa indians, Manuel González, Luciano Flores, Felipe Salazar, Pascual Latorre and Manuel Godoy. They killed five men, Captain Brisbane, Juan Simón (foreman of the gauchos), Dickson, Antonio Vehingar and Ventura Pasos. The population of that time, mainly women and children, fled to the nearby Peat island, until rescued by the sealer Hopeful in October 1833, who then passed information about the murders to the British squadron at Rio de Janeiro.
In January 1834, the British ship HMS Challenger arrived in the islands, bringing Lt Henry Smith, who set out to capture the murderers, who fled into the interior. Rivero then betrayed his companions in the hope of a reduced sentence.
Antonio, Antonio wherefore art thou? come back my Hero!
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonio_Rivero
What would anybody in the Falkland Islands want with a Río de la Plata accent?
Chilean Spanish is much nicer to listen to than porteño gobbledygook.
One of my grand -uncles was almost a victim of a nazi atrocity on crete. The fallschirmjäger lined his unit up against a wall and shot every other man in it.
Thats one personal reason why you'll never get me to feel any sympathy for the Germans.
I can relate several other first hand accounts of what the Nazis were like from older relatives or ex servicemen, like an old blind ex-soldier I met at my dads work place in the 1980s. He was in Normandy, part of a unit that found Canadian POWS murdered by the SS Hitlerjugen Division, he stated that it was near an airfield (I presume it was Carpiquet airfield). They handed over the SS troops they captured near the massacre site to the Canadians and let nature run its course.
So take your holier than thou attitude and stick it where the sun will never shine “think.” War is a terrible and messy business. Don't go there if you don't want people to treat you the way you are treating them.
Has Britain really payed for empire? Honestly.
And, not surprisingly, the brainwashed, self deceiving and unrepentant comments of the Brits continue to flow......…........
It's always some “despicable inhuman enemy’s fault” .....
First, the Spaniards....
Then was the French...
Later on, the Germans...
After them, the Russians...
Nowadays it is the Muslims...
None of them succeeded in stopping Britain from ruining or end the life of hundreds of millions of black, brown and yellow lesser Peoples, though....
For King and Country
May 15th, 2012 - 05:19 pm
What on earth has that got to do with kids from the Falkland Islands visiting Southern Chile and having a great time?
And the brainwashed, self deceiving and unrepentant cartoon continues………
www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cartoon/2012/may/13/prince-andrew-falklands-suicide-rate
www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cartoon/2012/may/14/prince-andrew-falklands-suicide-rate
Chuckle chuckle©
the one is just fluffing ones words,
..........................
and the children had a very nice time,
and will be very glad to get home to their familys .
Sorry cannot “get” your Guardian bit at all? For the record though you do of course realise that it is Falkland Islands and South Georgia and South Sandwich Fisheries Zones where Albatross mortality from fishing vessel operations has been reduced to basically zero.
Wonder what the incident rate is elsewhere?
This is a disrepectful treatment to a genious, best arg and world football player like Maradona. And all argentines. Squatters watchhhhhhhhhh
www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRV5iv66rBE
It should be taken away of air.
:PPPPPP
How mnay threads you post about Zybelberg ad??? We need of Maradona now.
I am sorry that we fought back against nazi aggression.
I am sorry that we did'nt surrender and let Germany occupy us to rape and loot our country.
I am sorry that we stopped the Nazis from exterminating millions of people.
I am sorry we liberated western europe from Nazi occupation.
I am sorry we supplied the Soviets with weapons, equipment and food to help them resist the Herrenvolks righteous occupation...............................
You are either a complete idiot, “think” or are just bitter about your lack of success in inflicting your own facist occupation in 1982, and consequent lack of success in crushing the spirit of resistance in the Falklanders since then.
Would be oppressors like you don't like their victims to fight back- they claim it is unfair.
@Tobias- yyaaaawwwnnnnn. Do you mean like the way your ancestors carved out souh america? Should Spain should be made to pay for it's crimes then? Should you be made to pay for the genocide in the desert?
Your argument doesn't amount to much really, does it?
'Britain has has fought in a lot of wars'....well, yes. And so have lots of other people.
What is particularly boring is the way you and all the other imbeciles on here wheel it out every time anyone wants to talk about the Falkland Islands and Argentina. You seem completely incapable of discussing anything except how beastly Britain is.Someone writes an article about fishing, or tourism, or a school trip, and you all start up in chorus.....'yes, and look at how many people you killed in Iraq, engleeeesh pig- dogs'. It's pathetic.
Lets start blaming you for all the millions Spain killed in its murderous past then, shall we? Except of course you became independent and wiped the slate clean of those crimes didn't you. Oh apart from the fact that you carried right on murdering indigenous people. I'm sure you'll find some way of blaming the British for that too.
I blame Argentina for Britain's involvement in Iraq and Afghanistan (and this is Max Hastings' argument). If you hadn't been so utterly useless as to allow yourself the be thumped by the British 8000 miles away from home, Britain would have carried on downscaling its armed forces and presence on the world stage, and would have ceased to see wars as a means of solving international and regional difficulties.
So it's all your fault, actually.
Shall we get back to talking about how nice it is that Chile and the Falklands get along? I guess in the future they'll be great trading buddies.
@238 shb,
Think(as a swede) dreams of the days when the Swedish Empire ruled the Baltic in the 17th century.
Now let me see, Sweden had colonies in:-
1) Finland
2) Estonia
2) Latvia
4) some of Lithuania
5) Norway
6) Northern Germany
A real colonial power until defeated by Russia.
Now Think is domiciled in Argentina & dreams of an Argentine Empire:-
1) Falklands
2) South Georgia
3) British Antarctica
& maybe even:-
4) Chile
5) Uruguay
6) southern Bolivia.
Guess what, Think?
lt will never happen.
LOL♥
Any opinion???????? Ah no you play the distractful tactic when it gets to you. You can do it. You are so PATHETIC crying and crying for touching a monument with a feet and put a Maradona, the best football player cleaning, to humilliate him!!!
UK again, the best kids of the blocs you are not, and mixing everything, although you say you dont do it, sports, nationalities, confrontation between countries with sth so nice and fair like the spirit of sports..........
www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRV5iv66rBE
come on give opinions...................Are you there????
we are born fans, dont need academies
May 16th, 2012 - 11:08 am
As usual you are trying to change the topic of the thread. The subject here is a group of FI students having a gret time in the south of Chile, it has nothing to do with the sponsor of the Eurocup or the Olympic Games and less to do with a fat, ugly, spoiled, drug addicted ex footballer like Maradona who is probably on of the people who have helped most to blacken the name of Argentina in sports.
The personnal problems of Maradona, that he can have as a person he is, doesnt shadows the merit and greatness of the way he played football.
Sorry Simon, but calling me retarded, school girl (thats not so bad), and of Villa 21 doesnt even speak very well of you as a person with better values either.
Dont like to debate with you. Find someone else.
And for the ad, if it was bad the arg ad this one is not different. Should be crying also, no?? disturbs the spirit of sports. hmmmmmmm
they forgot the part of “cantitos” and “papelitos” to be a good fan.
May 16th, 2012 - 03:33 pm
Obviously more future than you. The fact that you managed cto see a bit of the world because of working for an oil company or being married to an oil worker doesn't make you particularly “adelantada” or non-boring. These kids are making their first steps in the world, you are making your last. I would say that they have a pretty rosy future to look forward to, University in the UK (or anywhere else they want to go) and then back home to work in the oil boom, sounds pretty damn good to me.
Parts of Poland were also in the Swedish empire.
However I don’t think Stink is a Swede, (he keeps blabbering in Danish), and ergo he must be a turnip.
topveg.com/2010/07/the-difference-between-swedes-and-turnips/
Alias an Ersatz Argie.
@242 malen
Respect has to be earned, hence maradona gets none.
He has deservedly gone down in history as one of the world’s greatest cheats, unrepentant and unforgiven to the end.
Oh but of course it wasn’t him who snorted the coke, it was the nose of God.
@ 246 Simon68
Would you Adam and Eve it, travelled all that way, seen all those places, and still as Picadilly as the day she set out.
May 16th, 2012 - 05:39 pm
What a waste of time, when there is so much to be seen and done in this wonderful world.
So you can be disrespectful with Maradona because you think he does not deserves respect. Not an argument valid.
He deserves respect for how he played, one of the best football players of the world. And besides the ad is also disrespectful to arg in general.
Im joking about all the circus you made about not mixing politics, nationalisms with sport, that sports is sth nice and bla bla bla bla..................and now look you. Really pathetics, very pathetics. Continue crying babies. The olympic comittee, have you wrote so they expel us of the olympics??? and is the president of UK olympic comittee going to give us a speech for our disrespectful?????
Come on, so honorable people like you, cant accept such things......and cant do it either. clownsss
YaaaaaaaK...What a comment!...
Working for an “oil” company or being married to an “oil worker”?. .piuoooo! You stink...
I am the most independent woman in the whole world...I support myself.
Maradona is mainly known in England for a blatant handball incident that put England out of an important football tournament. And for being a drug addict.
And just listen to yourself will you? In one short post, you have used 'crying babies', 'clownsss' and 'pathetics'. Most people deveolp beyond name calling as a means of debate when they leave school. I suggest you grow up and come back when you have something useful to say.
Having No Respect for someone, is not the same as Disrespecting them.
I have no respect for him because of what he did and said (and all you Argy F*ckers know what I’m talking about).
He disrespected himself when he did them.
And then us, when he thought that we would EVER let this drop.
He has never repented, we have never forgiven.
It is the Irony of Maradona that his legacy (outside Argentina) is that instead of being remembered as one of the worlds greatest footballers (which he was, choke), he is remembered for the controversy, not least the “Hand of God” incident and subsequent confession.
We have our revenge, written into the history books.
So according to this point of view, so interesting Pugol, if you so honorable people can be disrespectful because in your opinion you think someone has been disrespectful with himself and others, can we too??? Yes because Arg is entilted to think you are being disrespectful ocupying the isles, so we make also those nice ad.
And Pugol dont you think the ad disturbs a little the spirit of sports, mixing nationalism, confrontating countries that by the way have a dispute with sports?? well you condemned us with that with in the other ad so I ask you the same.
But as you were so upset by an ad and made many threads giving bad opinions etc, we can too say it is polemic this one, no???
People who don't know this shouldn't trade or do business with Argies.
@Isolde- whether or not “think” is a swede, the list was good! Perhaps think is frustrated because the swedes were also thrashed by the Russians, like his do-good Nazis were (they only wanted to spread Kultur).....
As to Maradona - I remember watching the match. I have never been greatly excited by football and don't follow any teams, I only ever really bother during the world cup. Even I could tell that the “hand of God” was more than a little dodgy. When the referee allowed the goal I remember feeling cheated.
My next comment was “never mind, we won the only inportant match, in 1982”.
All the incident did was reinforce the image I had of Argentinians being incapable of achieving anyhthing by fair means, so resorted to being liers and cheats.
The image has only been reinforeced by their current antics on the world stage.
Sorry Malen. I haven't seen the Maradona 'ad' you're talking about.
Was it commissioned by the British government? Did they sneak into Argentina and start capering about on national monuments and trespassing on private property? Have Cameron and Hague been on television talking about how marvellously 'creative' it is?
Just asking.
Because it appears to be your government's policy to use sport for political ends , and to sponsor and support illegal, disrespectful and confrontational acts, and that is what we find disappointing.
When Sport resembles Art….:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=3z-qm-Sb_4s
English, not so Godly, hand…:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=vB2h1ynKLII
A Great Brit about a great Argie…:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkNEdEqtu8M
just watch that lad go
really ? Does Chilean spanish sound nice to you ?
hahaha, you know 5hit man, hahaha keep the jokes coming, Insel Affe !
and another difference nobody in Arg gave so much importance to this or made comments of dramtism as you do.
and cheating in a game is not so bad as killing, bombing I mean it was a game only. Not to make a novel about this. and I like M. as a player, not the vulgar things he sometimes say, etc. about if he used drugs sth bad, well is his life, whitney houstoun also did, but doesnt make her less great artist. I dont care much of that. yes reprobe the things he says.
and about Brit I think it is still an empire that with other arguments and strategies of today, continues invading, colonizing others countries. no need to go ahead to 1800. for shb. In my own opinion.
Yes Chilean Spanish is much nicer than porteño rubbish.
Insel Affe: Island Monkey? Are you reffering to the Falkland Islanders, because I don't think there were ever any monkeys on the Islands, too cold. The only “monkeys” that seem to be pertinent to this thread would be Kretin's troupe (Moreno, De Vido, Timerman, Kicilloff, et al) but they don't have much to do with a group of kids having a great time on a school trip!!!!
I think what CowBum Boy is referring to is a German expression, sometimes used when referring to the British.
Seems he is another Ersatz Argy.
Esta Susanita te dice la verdad:
The chilean spanish is the worst spanish spoken in south america..y eseeee aceeeennto quieeeeeeen los entiendeeeen? The chileans use the word carro instead of automobil. The Chileans simply don't have class.
Talking about Chile, the chilean grapes and cherries found at Walmart stores in the US don't worth the $3.90 p/lb/. Rio Negro, Argentina and California, US have the best vegetables and fruits. Keep your fruit you know where......
I dont have any problems with chilean about culture, there is bad chileans as bad argentinians...
But reading about invasions or murders, then the UK has long history on that...
another interesting thing is the ignorance of some people that says “Argentina is trying to isolate the islanders”
How funny because we offer them 3 flights that is cheaper and they could have most supplies...the only thing argentina and southamerican countries did is not to recognize the unexisting flag of “falkland islands” but argentina never tried to isolate them...
Its a shame how the islanders are manipulated with the monopolic Penguin News newspaper from the islands...
Do you imagine if “the Sun” would be the only newspaper in the UK...well imagine it because thats happening in the islands like it or not...its true
You do have to be careful learning porteno, you get to Spain and find out its not an Automobil, it’s a coche. Mobil not cellular, and they don’t take a bus, they f*ck it?
Of course, English also has its dialects, accents and expressions, more than most languages.
WAKEY-WAKEY searinox..............
Are you for real?
Or do you really believe the crap you are writing?
Can you think of any reason why the Falklanders may be a little bit unenthusiastic about letting Argentina take over air-links?
Lets have a look again shall we.................
Argentina claims the islands against the will of the inhabitants.
This is backed by lies and distortion, based on an inferiority complex and a sense of entitlement to other peoples land, your previous colony DID NOT HAVE PERMISSION TO ANNEX THE ISLANDS...
These inhabitants would be made to live under occupation or forced to leave. The last dose of Argentine rule they had was imposed at gunpoint.
You harrass vessels at sea in the area.
You keep trying to get Chile to stop flights.
You have stopped FI vessels flying their flags in your waters - an insult.
You have turned away vessesl from your ports that have called at the falklands- in an attempt to dissuade people from visting them.
You talked about fishing out squid bvefore the FI could start harvesting them.
Then to top it all, Argentinians like you brag about how you are making life harder for the Falklanders as a result of your actions.
Would you let a hostile power, intent on invasion or annexation gain control of your external communications....................
At least with Lan Chile, they get to fly on modern aircraft without having to use a white card.
They are already satisfied with the flights they get, so what could AA give them they haven't got already?????
Like to answer that???
Searinox, you now as well as I do that Argentina would find it difficult to carry small arms in the cabins of Lan-Chile flights, so they would use AA flights to send undercover Argentine commandos to try and take MPA. The Falkland Islanders can see through this, plus Argentina has nothing to offer them apart from cooperation with the fishing/conservation zone. And that doesn't involve like Argentinians, clubbing fur seals to death.
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