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Lula da Silva back in race if President Dilma Rousseff does not try re-election

Saturday, June 2nd 2012 - 03:57 UTC
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Brazil's former President Lula da Silva admitted during a television interview that he will be presidential candidate in the 2014 elections if current Head of State Dilma Rousseff does not run for re-election. Read full article

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  • ChrisR

    Fingers crossed that she stands again or this prat croaks it before the election.

    Jun 02nd, 2012 - 03:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • rnbgr

    Looks like he is trying to send a message to Dilma and the rest the political crew in Brazil. I want back in

    Jun 02nd, 2012 - 10:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • British_Kirchnerist

    #1 I'm interested Chris, as an admirer of both Lula and Dilma I'm surprised that you wish death on one and re-election on the other; what differences do you see between them, when they are as far as I'm aware close collaborators and friends? Brazil seems lucky that it has two Cristina style leaders to chose from next time =)

    Jun 04th, 2012 - 01:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    3 Blind_Scottie_Kirchnerist

    I do admire Dilma, I have never made any secret of that.

    It is unfortunate about the American Officer episode and that undoubtedly cramped her visit to America.

    Dilma has done many thinks to distance herself from Lula - like getting rid of his corrupt cronies from the government and has made good progress with the economy.

    However, it is very easy to run a country when things are going well. It is another matter to come up with new policies when things are not so good. I am somewhat disappointed with the moves being made so far with regard to short term subsidies in the auto-industry, etc. but I have made my views known many times here: we will just have to see how things turn out.

    Lula is the past, and yes, to some extent gave her the start she needed to get to being President: it was a ballsy move for him to nominate her when he was ill but he could see first hand the ability that the woman had.

    She has now outgrown him and to some extent I think it might be wishful thinking on his part that he could take over again and still keep his health.

    It seems he has had a near miss with death, I hope he does not throw it away irrespective if Dilma stands or not, though I most certainly hope that she does.

    Does that answer your question?

    BTW, Dilma and her abilities are way beyond TMBA. I have said it before and repeat it again, I wish Dilma had BOTH Brasil and Argentina.

    Jun 04th, 2012 - 04:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • British_Kirchnerist

    #4 “Does that answer your question?”

    Its definately a good measured analysis, even if I don't agree with all of it. Which begs the question, why do you seem to lose all perspective when discussing Cristina? Its one thing to admire Dilma more than her, another to become literally murderous as some of your posts have been

    Jun 05th, 2012 - 12:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @5
    Your 'queen' is the worst type of bi-polar, bordering on psychopathatic behaviour, person in power in South America.

    I think to be fair, Nestor has a lot of blame here: he was clearly fracturing the rules (if not breaking them) when he set her up to be a puppet president, a role she was barely capable of while he lived and utterley out of her depth in when he died on her.

    By then of course she had succumbed to the popular 'belief' that she was good for the country, despite the problems she caused. It has been reported that her children, out of concern for her, tried to dissuade her but she even ignored them.

    She is known to rant and rave and pull stunts that are so transparently stunts you have to wonder if she really thinks people do not notice.

    But more than that she terrifies, or attempts to terrify not only the Falklands (there are no Malvinas) but also her nearest neighbour, Uruguay, my chosen place to retire. As far as I am concerned that is where she crosses the line.

    Her cohorts want her to continue because they can grab all the money possible while she is in charge. The YPF dividend scandal shows what they were up to as a couple and it seems to have got worse now she is on her own.

    Actions such as these subjugate the people she pretends to care for. This is nothing but a callous deceit on her part.

    No-one in the opposition seems capable of doing anything about it. Whether they are frightened of her or of attaining power, is another matter.

    And I tell you something here and now,“another to become literally murderous” as you put it is absolutely correct. Her actions may severely diminish our retirement funds and I would not hesitate for a nanosecond to kill her in whatever way was possible to prevent that from happening.

    Although I am an atheist I do live by most of the tenents of the bible. I look after my own with a vengeance, I ALWAYS have done.

    Jun 05th, 2012 - 12:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • British_Kirchnerist

    Well you seem to have the worst possible view of the Bible, it seems you as an atheist accept the Dawkins characterisation of it as tribal and amoral - and then try to live by it!

    You do know that Cristina and Dilma are friends, Cristina was picked just a few weeks ago to profile Dilma for Time, and they are both women leaders who have emerged from struggle against horredous real dictatorships (not the kind people say Argentina is now!) and have prioritised human rights and social uplift. I can concede that in the dictatorship period Dilma's role as an urban guerilla who was imprisoned and tortured was even more heroic, but no-one sitting in a democracy could credibly fault the Kirchners for getting out of the capital to stay alive and fight another day.

    Many may also prefer Dilma's less dramatic style - personally I like Cristina's drama and charisma, but stylistic issues are secondary anyway. On policies the Brazilian model has not gone as far to the left as the Argentine (which itself is not as far to the left, yet, as Venezuela, Bolivia or Ecuador) which may be why you as a Maggie fan prefer it.

    But on the specific issue of Uraguay it seems its not Argentina bullying Uruguay but both governments versus the tax dodgers. If I was running Britain I'd use all our powers of “bullying” to close the tax loopholes in the Cayman Islands, Channel Islands, Isle of Man and our various other “dependencies”...

    Jun 05th, 2012 - 07:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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