OAS calls on Argentina/UK to find peaceful way to solve Malvinas sovereignty dispute
The Organization of American States general assembly, meeting in Tiquipaya, Bolivia, passed a resolution urging the Argentine and British governments to find a peaceful way to solve the Malvinas Islands sovereignty dispute.
On the last day of session the organization urged both nations “to retake negotiations in order to soon find a peaceful way to solve the Malvinas Islands sovereignty dispute” that caused a war between London and Buenos Aires in 1982.
Foreign Minister Héctor Timerman invited the British representative in the OAS assembly to immediately engage in dialogue in order to find a definitive solution to the conflict.
“I would like to offer Great Britain the opportunity to meet in a room. The OAS secretary general can be present. I want to negotiate with Great Britain. I want to find a peaceful solution to this colonial conflict,” he said during the fourth session of the meeting.
Timerman regretted that London chose to ignore the 39 resolutions passed by the UN urging both nations to solve the bilateral conflict.
Before the final approval of the draft resolution several Foreign ministers read aloud similar statements in support of Argentina from Unasur, Mercosur and Celac calling for diplomatic negotiations on the Malvinas issue.
However Canada pointed out that it is for the Falkland Islands people to decide on their future adding that it did not agree with some chapters of the OAS resolution.
Likewise and as had been anticipated the US delegation adopted a neutral stance but also accepted the call for a peaceful solution to the bilateral dispute.
The draft resolution was presented to the general assembly by Brazil’s Deputy Secretary for International Policy, Vera Machado, and was approved by acclamation on request from the Uruguayan delegation.
The resolution reads as follows:
Considering its repeated statements that the Question of the Malvinas Islands is a matter of enduring hemispheric concern;
Recalling its resolution AG/RES. 928 (XVIII-O/88), adopted by consensus on November 19, 1988, in which it requested the Governments of the Argentine Republic and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland to resume negotiations in order to find, as soon as possible, a peaceful solution to the sovereignty dispute;
Bearing in mind that in its resolution AG/RES. 1049 (XX-O/90), it expressed satisfaction over the resumption of diplomatic relations between the two countries;
Recognizing that the accreditation of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, under CP/RES. 655 (1041/95), as a permanent observer of the OAS reflects principles and values shared by that country and OAS member states, which facilitate greater mutual understanding;
Noting with satisfaction that the Governments of the Argentine Republic and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland maintain important political, cultural and trade ties, share common values and are also engaged in close cooperation both bilaterally and in international fora;
Bearing in mind that, despite those ties and shared values, it has not yet been possible to resume the negotiations between the two countries with a view to solving the sovereignty dispute over the Malvinas Islands, Georgia del Sur y Sandwich del Sur Islands and the surrounding maritime areas in the framework of resolutions 2065 (XX), 3160 (XXVIII), 31/49, 37/9, 38/12, 39/6, 40/21, 41/40, 42/19 and 43/25 of the United Nations General Assembly, the decisions adopted by the same body on the same question in the Special Committee on Decolonization, and the reiterated resolutions and declarations adopted at this General Assembly; and
Having heard the presentation by the head of delegation of the Argentine Republic,
Welcomes the reaffirmation of the will of the Argentine Government to continue exploring all possible avenues towards a peaceful settlement of the dispute and its constructive approach towards the inhabitants of the Malvinas Islands.
Reaffirms the need for the Governments of the Argentine Republic and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland to resume, as soon as possible, negotiations on the sovereignty dispute, in order to find a peaceful solution to this protracted controversy.
Decides to continue to examine the Question of the Falkland Islands at its subsequent sessions until a definitive settlement has been reached thereon.
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Why do they keep quoting expired resolutions including the last one which Argentina violated with an illegal invasion of the peaceful islands?
I think the UK should set the negotiation terms given it decides what happens and ynsere's point about removing it from their constitution will be a good start.
So really, just a seamy confused situation.
The direct metaphor would be a convicted paedophile ordering you to give them your child, and I suggest the response should be the same.
No.
con·struc·tive/kənˈstrəktiv/
Adjective: 1.Serving a useful purpose; tending to build up.
a) the words of the argentinians reflect no respect for the falkland islanders.
b) the actions of the argentinians reflect no respect for the falkland islanders.
Can't see how that is in any way constructive, unless they truly intend to ethnically cleanse the islands, which we all know they want to.
Wake me up when they actually say something worth listening to.
Essentially they quote the UN resolutions which they breached and in the Falkland's war acted directly against Binding resolutions of the UN, its hypocrisy on a truly giant scale and amusing to boot.
No wonder everyone outside of SA laughs at them on the world stage.
Argentina needs a decent, progressive and modern government that can tackle its economic and social issues. Once it does that it can prosper, until then you've got the corrupt CFK trying to raise internal support by banging the drum over the Falkland's islands whilst the country destroys itself internally.
This is a fight Argentina has zero chance of winning.
Welcome back, we've missed you.
Where have you been?
@ 12 Isn't Mad Max the heir apparent to the throne? The Prince of Whales, as his friends call him?
@ 10 It would make a perfect prison. The Alcatraz of the South Atlantic. Inmates to be trained in the art of deepwater drilling...
@ 1 Good idea. The whole thing could be over and done with in 24 hours :-)
Fun here, innit?
Simple, easy, no one dies.
It was all sorted out in 1850 under the 'Convention of Settlement' Part vii reads, 'Under the Convention perfect friendship between her Britannic Majesty's Government and the Government of the Confederation (Argentina) is restored to it's former state of good understanding and cordiality'
The treaty therefore settled all outstanding differences.
The Argentine government later produced maps showing that the Falkland Islands were not part of Argentina. Preidents of Argentina acknowledged this fact.
There you have it dear Hector and Co 'Perfect friendship has been resored'
argentina we want the falklands
foreign Office chappy turns to the FIG representatives do you want to be argentinan chaps please be civil
fig er NO!
right thats settled then same time next year?
maybe in 50 years the argies might get it
So we can expect Tinpotman to finally admit all the lies argieland has told the UN and the world, can we? Good of him to offer the British representative in the OAS assembly to immediately engage in dialogue in order to find a definitive solution to the conflict. Knowing that the British representative was an FCO official with no authority. The man (?) is deranged.
Why doesn't the FCO send a copy of Pascoe and Pepper's paper of 23 May 2012 to all OAS governments, except argieland?
Falklanders are peaceful, Argenweener are not
Falklanders are rightful inhabitants, Argenweener are not
Falklanders outlook is very bright, Argenweeners is not
Falklanders are democratic, Argenweener is not
Falklanders are has right on its side, Argenweener has not
Argenweener is the problem, and the UK is the solution, a lesson they have too soon forgotten.
SELF - DETERMINATION & INTERNATIONAL COURTS OF JUSTICE
“Game-over”
Argentina: Hand over the Malvinas, it says in our constitution they're ours.
UK: According to history the Falkland Islands are not. Please speak to FIG.
Argentina: Who?
FIG: We actually govern the islands now, we are the indigenous population, and self-determination/independence is how the Secretary General of the UN wishes de-colonialisation to happen.
Argentina: We only recognise 2065, as we are irretrievably stuck in the past, but as we own the Malvinas, according to our constituition hand them over now!
UK: Axccording to the UN rules on self-determination, please speak to FIG.
Argentina: They don't exist.
FIG: Go swivel losers.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=P39Dszzyw5I&feature=related
- Flying to these meetings every month makes them feel and look busy and important
- Flying to these meetings every month was distracting the masses from domestic problems although now it seems many Argentines are starting to lose patience
- Flying to these meetings every month gets them away from the hassle they're facing domestically.
- Flying to these meetings every month gives them nice stays in hotels and fancy lunches
- Flying to these meetings every month gives them a chance to Troll massively because they are a vindictive, malicious bunch of politicians. Deep down they surely must know that practically there is nothing they can do to get the Falklands so the next best thing is to try and get a reaction from the British and FI governments and Islanders.
How is this for a Mickey Mouse economy run my Mickey Mouse politicians:
Taken from The Economist 2.6.12: 'From this week, any Argentinian wanting to take a foreign holiday must not only provide his tax identification number but also tell the tax agency (AFIP) where and why he is going. Officials say this violation of privacy is needed to fight tax evasion and money laundering. In reality the reason is that the government of CFK is starting to run out of dollars. Since the inflation rate is over 25% the government is TERRIFIED of letting the Peso depreciate and is resorting to a seige economy.'
Next question is, where are all the pro-arge bloggers? why arn't they telling us how awesome this is for Argentina! (i need a laugh)
At the end of the day a growing economy is ALWAYS the priority for the masses. Has a bad/unethical government ever been voted out whilst the economy was growing strongly?
Good call on the 'tuppeny sh*te' phrase!
Because they know they don't have a case but need a never ending dispute to raise nationalism in times of internal crisis, like now when the Argentine inflation is is close to 30 per cent.
Never heard of them.
sounds like just another fucking nothing statement from a less than credible organisation.
Argentine own goals are mounting up!
talk talk, what a load of rubbish, did someone not tell this stupid assembly, that peaceful means does not include, threats , abuse , intimidation , blockades , legal threats , and abhorrent lies ,
Or was this conveniently forgotten about,
Someone should have stood up, and bloody humiliated the Argies , [ did they ???]
Like fxck they did .
.
If you had had your way, The Falklands would have become an Argentine colony in 1982 (please spare us the bullsh!t about how it was all the Junta's fault)
They are still there,
The Queen is still on her throne,
Long may it stay so.
(ln other words, Argentina, get lost!)
We don't need you & we don't want you.
We don't want anything to do with you.
Disappear! pouf!
Look clown: I have told yoyu before: uk REJECTED in 1884,the invitation from Argentina to settle the AMlvinas issue in a court of law,and at least 5 times after.Why in HELL uk declined,if they are sio sure....
ICJ? Hmm part of the UN..UN has 10 res,considering Malvinas a colonial issue.....C-24 another branch of the UN,also uk and MAlvinas LOSING all the time.
ICJ: uk rejects any ISSUE prior to 1974..just look for yourself in the ICJ.....
Nothing has changed and nothing will change.
You are rigth elaine: Nothing will change FOR YOU!
You were born a crook,are a crook and will die as a crook!
As the future of MAlvinas: The outcome is clear: MALVINAS ARGENTINAS...Bye bye,brits losers..keep spending FOOLISHLY the money on MAlvinas....BTW,did the uk economy improved? Or is the regular disaster?
If the Islanders said tomorrow:
“Pleases let us become Argentines, you have really convinced us, so please let us in.”
Kretina, Timerman, and the rest of the troupe would have massive heart attacks and scream NOOOOOOO.
The whole “Malvinas” thing is only for local consumption. It is designed to be trotted out whenever the peronistas have f*cked up again, as they always do, to destract us while they do the next stupidity.
I'd love to see their faces if you Falkland Islanders called their bluff!!!!
It still doesn't alter the fact that if you really thought you had a case, you would go to the ICJ and not the ineffectual talking shops of the OAS and the C24 sub committee on colonisation
We'll ask my local WI branch to pass a counter resolution. If you know some of the WI ladies that I know, you should be very afraid!
Agreed. It seems that the situation is exactly the same as it was 6 months ago. Or 12 months, or 30 years ago. Argentina has no more or less support than they ever had and the American position has never altered one jot since................................... well whenever you care to mention.
@46.
Simon I am sure you are 100% correct but calling the Malvinista bluff would be a little too risky I think. As unlikely as it is they might really want the islands afterall and double bluff the Falkland Islanders. Not a risk worth taking in my opinion but it is of course the Falkland Islanders choice to make I suppose.
Thankyou Canada. No fence sitting there then.
“...Britain would finally relinquish all claim to authority over its own affairs and essentially cease to exist as a political entity. What Hitler and Napoleon couldn’t do, the dull Eurocrats and their silky-voiced, terribly respectable media cheerleaders are intent on doing. But then again, Britain is already dead, it just hasn’t been buried yet.”
pjmedia.com/blog/britains-already-dead/
Your childish language and behavior tells me you are too young to attend this forum.
Return in a couple of years when you have turned 15.
:-)
Thank you for the link.
-“Timerman immeadiately DEMANDED talks on sovereignty”
Did he now?
Drop dead, Timeridiot.
Just like orangehead blithered on about “negotations”, to Hague a few weeks ago.
Do you think that there's a contest in CFK's cabinet to see who can make the Falklands buckle first?
CFK-“l'll give $1,000,000 US to any of you idiots, err l mean ministers, who can deliver the malvinas to me. Arrrrrrrggggggggghhhhhhhhh, must have malvinas, wants it bad l do. give, give, give meeeeee.”
@45Malvinero1,
What? not you again?
l told you to stop sniffing that petrol, it'll fry your brain.
Uuuuummm, what brain?
Wake up to yourself, malvibaby, or you will be FINISHEDDDDDDDD!
You write as if something is happening, as if something is in motion. It isn't, its just in your fevered imagination. Self determination is the key and so far, all we can gather is that a majority of the Islanders reject Argentina and people exactly like you.
Your Government has foresaken armed conflict and dedicated itself to peace. Unless of course this too is another falsehood, don't you think they would be better employed engaging with the Islanders in a rather more polite and civilised fashion?
Just a thought.
Jun 07th, 2012 - 02:34 pm
So what? I agree completely with your facts, but also repeat; so what?
Are the Islanders to thank us for invading them so that they could get benefits from UK?
What exactly did we “put out”? As I recall we bilt an airport at Stanley, LADE made a few flights every now and then, YPF put a fuel depôt, and not much else.
What we should have done is a massive emigration to the Islands, then WE could be claiming self determination, but WE DID NOT WANT TO LIVE THERE. So now we've had it, we just have to get used to it.
Why would any Argentine want to live in a country where they are despised. The islanders hated the Argentines, and begged the British for their nationality. The only ones that ever did anything for them was Argentina. And that's another FACT.
That is the answer in a nutshell, pre-1982 the population of the Islands was in the region of 1800 people, it wouldn't have been difficult to put 2000 adult Argentines on the Islands at that time, but we didn't. We stayed home and comfortable in Argentina with our military government slaughtering our young leftists.
Now the “leftist” politicians like Kretina and her troupe are playing the “Malvinas son Argentinas” card for all they're worth trying to take our minds off the economic melt-down which is waiting for us.
As somone said on another thread, Kretina is fiddling while Rome burns.
Enjoy.
Have you tried electro-shock therapy yet? I am told it is usually helpfull in cases like yours.
So what?
Did Argentina do all these great things for us because they are such fine chaps?
No!
Because they wanted the lslands, but not the people.
Yes, mistakes were made in the past, but now they've been corrected.
The Falklands are booming.
For Argentina(re the Falklands), the window has closed, the moment has passed.
Sad
The window was never open. Anyways, I still say it's up to the Falklanders to decide what THEY want. Not the UK or Argentina.
Isolde is an Islander!
I understand that in the most recent poll over 90% of Islanders wanted to stay with the UK. I am sure a F.Islander will correct me with the right number.
Well you would appear to be in agreement with the UK government because they also say it is up to the Islanders to decide.
It is the only civilized thing to do, the Falkland Islanders have to decide what they want to do, no one else should make that decision.
www.StopFundingArgentina.org
Anyone reading this outside of Argentina please sign THE FORM NOW and make Argentina start paying back the monies it ows the rest of the world.
Would sign it 10,000 times if they would let me!
www.facebook.com/Britain1592
#43 “The Queen is still on her throne,
Long may it stay so”
Isolde I didn't take you for a Cristinista =) But as you mentioned it yes Reina Cristina still owns the throne =)
#65 Dinnae be nasty!
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