UK minister says Argentina not acting as a ‘responsible country’ in Falklands’ issue
British Foreign Minister David Lidington condemned on Wednesday the actions of Argentina against the Falkland Islands claiming they were not those of a 'responsible' country.
”(Argentina's) behaviour remains aggressive toward the Islanders. The actions displayed by the Argentine government are not those of a responsible power on the world stage, with threats and military rhetoric“ said the minister in a statement to the House of Commons.
Likewise the official celebrated the decision by the Falklands' government to hold a referendum by saying it would send a 'simple and powerful' message of democracy to Argentina.
”The Falklands have no interest in becoming a province of Argentina,“ he said, adding that ”regrettably not everyone has been able to accept this reality“.
Lidington said Argentina had become increasingly hostile to the Islanders, preventing free trade, stopping cruise ships bearing British flags docking in Argentine ports and preventing flights using its air space.
But the Foreign Office minister said that “this government will offer unequivocal support for the Islanders, protecting their rights and wishes just as we did 30 years ago,” he said.
Lidington said the referendum would be held in the first half of 2013 and be overseen by independent observers and “I hope Argentina will take note of the islanders soberly expressed democratic view”.
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The comment is irrelevant. Next.
Happy Liberation Day
Hundreds of thousands dead, no WMD, Britain fingerprints all over.
Pathetic. No serious country would enter into a “preeptive” war anyhow, much less on a fabricated dossier and evidence. It matters not anyhow, I can discern for myself if my countries policies are responsible or not.
(I never brought the Chagos issue up till now, because I wasn't informed upon it. I have read multiple sources and is is indisputable that there were people living on those islands, very simple lives, but there nontheless), and the UK didn't give a damn about their culture or their future generations.
Get out of my sight, to be honest British politeness is laughable. It is code for “we want to be seen as gentlemen even though we are utter turds”.
No one believes it.
Deflect the topic all you want. There is no “different circumstances” when it comes to taking people from where they have lived all their lives. Pathetic, dishonorable anglo.
Luckily Britain only deported them to Mauritius. If your country had been running the place they would probably have been “disappeared”... Silly, ill-informed Argie.
Things will just stay the way they are, won't they??
Anyway, I am not going to pursue the issue further. I'm trying to move past dredging peripheral topics.
The main point is, what a British foreign minister thinks of Argentina is as moliminous in world affairs as lighting a match on the surface of th sun.
It induces oscitancy.
@3 Fillipo I've told you once now pay attention our Missle submarines are within range of RGenweener when they are tied up alongside in Faslane, so trot on and stop shouting!!! One foriegn minister represents militerizing the FALKLAND ISLANDS you really are a complete idiot
Oh Iraq gets a mention again shock horror.
The C24 will do what they always do NOTHING, apart from giggle at CFK's ranting.
WHO IS HE TO CALL ARGENTINE IRRESPONSIBLE???? - same right your government tells lies about the UK's stance on the issue....freedom of speech and all that!
WHY IS ENGLAND MILITARIZING THE FALKLANDS BY SENDING NUCLEAR MISSILES SUBMARINES - once again you have no proof so why waste your time posting? TO FALKLANDS TO BE WITHIN RANGE OF MY HOME? - Dont need to be near the falklands to be in range of your home, again misguided statement from you!
WHY IS THE BRITISH MINISTER OF DEFENSE IN MALVINAS?becuase he can go whenever he wants. Why is KFC going to NEw York? God you are a prize Nonce. HIS PRESENCE AT VICTORY CEREMONY IS MILITARISING THE ENTIRE REGION - what? How explain please (sorry you cant can you becuse once again you have no solid facts) AND THIS WILL BE PRESENTED WITH ALL OTHER FACTS LIKE THIS TO COMMITTEE C24 - yes you guys will, and like calls made by Timmerman before, the general response will be that there is no militisation other than what is allowed and needed. So another waste of peoples time.
IT IS TIME FOR ENGLAND TO REALIZE IT LOST WAR - Hehe, no we didnt porr misguided child that you are. AND FOR ALL PEOPLE OF MALVINAS TO BE BORN AGAIN AS ARGENTINE LIKE HERO JAMES PECK - What? How do you make this up? Are you on acid?? WHO IS TRUE PATRIOT NOT LIKE HIS FATHER WHO FOUGHT WITH THE BRITISH!!!! OR GO HOME TO ENGLAND!!!!!!! - We could consider falkands a little part of England so they are at home in the county of Falklands.
So because they were “taken” there that means they have no rights. So I guess all black men and women in the New World have no rights, neither do the Indian (Asian indians) taken to the Caribbean, etc, etc.
And the Falklands were also uninhabited. They are barely habitable. 3,000 people after 300 years is pathetic. I submit they should be made pristine again (which will never happen, since the British exterminated the Falkland Island's fox, a unique mammal species).
Does the word hypocrisy exist in British RP?? Perhaps it is only in American english borrowed via Mexico.
Why you have truth in your name? Is it sarcasm?
Guess what ??? you aint getting the Falklands hehehehehe! There is nothing you can do about it. No organisation in the world can make it happen, they can only make suggestions etc.......so you and your dreams are right royaly furked.
Doesnt matter what you say, your arguements could even be right, but it still makes difference. So until the islanders decide otherwise the only way to get the Falklands back is by force, and you would be incapable of doing that.
The UK does lecture others about “freedom and democracy”, when they for 300 year denied millions around the planet exactly that.
Which is why most of us non-Brits do not giggle, but guffaw.
Why are you still posting? It doesnt matter! Your points are irrelvant! You and your club of simians can not and will not change anything! Just suggesting you find something else to do rather than waste your time making pointless posts!
Perhaps you could write a book? Learn to play the Piano? grow a brain cell?
What you want is for us to aver the UK is an honorable country (government). You may never be afforded that.
Not because I refuse to vouchsafe this due to blind personal animus. Simply because it would be a lie.
I believe that any post made that may try to illustrate that the Uk is an honorable country/Gov. is because of the too and fro banter from both sides. if there was no issue with the Falklands, i dont think any of the Brit/Islanders would waste their energy trying to sell you any idea of Britain being honorable because there would be no reason to!
BTW, What is it with your over flowery language?? - its a relatively new thing for you to do this, which to me suggests you are trying to prove something (either to yourself or others)! But what does it go to show/prove! You trying to up your ego? you think that by using a theasuarus or dictionary, that others will bow to you mastery of the english language?
Sad! i pity those who have to put up with you on a daily bases, then again, i guess you dont get many guests in your ward (you ever read Once Flew Over The Cuckoos Nest?)!
:-)
Diego Garcia and Malvinas, What Do They Have in Common?
Answer: Their local population were illegally expelled by the same country.
The Chagossians were offered no recourse to self-determination. Dispossesed of their homes and their means of livelihood, the democratic choice offered to the Chagossians was to become slum-dwellers on the Mauritius mainland. For the inconvenience of having to accommodate these refugees, the government of Maurituis was compensated with the princely sum of three million pounds.
Diego Garcia and Falklands, What Do They Have in Common?
Answer: Their local population were illegally expelled by the same country.
Wrong Answer and I can gather a score of legitimate references to argue your point.
You have no proof that a local population was expelled from the falklands by the British. please quote your reference points.....otherwise dont waste you fucking time with idle posts
BTW i corrected your question for you!!
Diego Garcia pales in comparison to the murders during the 70s and 80s or would you prefer made disappear?
they have always had the right of self determination cant wait to see you proved wrong
Make a list of what the Islanders have done to Argentina.
Now, make a list of what Argentina has done to the islanders.
Please respond.
They're then going to have a presentation on how little Argentina has benefited the world at large, and then let some of their native population starve to death.
Currently they appear to be in full whine mode.
Today we remember the brave British soldiers, sailors and airmen who liberated the Falkland Islanders from evil foreign oppression.
“Since when do we care what foreigners think of us?”
Since you've been bleating your victimhood fantasy to any international forum which can't escape listening?
“WHO IS HE TO CALL ARGENTINE IRRESPONSIBLE????”
I believe he's a British Foreign Minister - the article was fairly explicit
“WHY IS ENGLAND MILITARIZING THE FALKLANDS BY SENDING NUCLEAR MISSILES SUBMARINES TO FALKLANDS TO BE WITHIN RANGE OF MY HOME?”
It's not. A nuclear powered submarine is different from a nuclear armed submarine. The Falklands have a comparatively small defense force to deter future aggression. If you recall it was invaded. If Argentina is not planning a second invasion, why would you concern yourself about the military forces in the Falklands?
“WHY IS THE BRITISH MINISTER OF DEFENSE IN MALVINAS? HIS PRESENCE AT VICTORY CEREMONY IS MILITARISING THE ENTIRE REGION AND THIS WILL BE PRESENTED WITH ALL OTHER FACTS LIKE THIS TO COMMITTEE C24!”
A defense minister isn't a military asset. I refer you to my previous comment regarding militarisation. Does Argentina not have a military in the “region”?
As for your claim to Argentine “truths” - its a matter of perspective as to whether Argentine assertions are historically accurate.
“IT IS TIME FOR ENGLAND TO REALIZE IT LOST WAR AND FOR ALL PEOPLE OF MALVINAS TO BE BORN AGAIN AS ARGENTINE LIKE HERO JAMES PECK WHO IS TRUE PATRIOT NOT LIKE HIS FATHER WHO FOUGHT WITH THE BRITISH!!!! OR GO HOME TO ENGLAND!!!!!!!”
We don't disagree, we fully support the people of the Falklands in determining that for themselves. The will do so in a referendum. As far as I understand they are already home, in the Falklands. That is as ridiculous as telling you to go home to Spain.
Dear Mr. Baron-Cohen,
I thought Borat was pretty funny to begin with, but the joke wore off after about five minutes. I have to admit I am experiencing the same phenomenon with your new creation “Filippo”.
Regards
H.
The Falkland Islands still has its rightfull name.
The population still speak their own language.
They still drive on the left side of the road.
British forces protect their freedom.
Today they celebrate their liberation and remeber those gave their lives for it.
Contrast what would have happened had we won:
The island would now be called the Malvinas.
The indiginous populace would have been ethnicaly cleansed.
The implanted population would speak Spanish.
They would drive on the right.
Argentine troops would be Garrisoning Puerto Argentina.
Today would be Argentine Victory Day.
All in all, I think it is a bloody good job we also lost the First and Second World Wars, just imagine what the world would be like today had we won!!
Happy Liberation Day to all Falkalanders.
“From the Sea - Freedom.”
@41 It's all an extension of the Fact that Peron got really pyssy after WW2 because his bff Hitler lost, which is why he then said 'the wrong side won'. Hitler had promised his good friend and ideological compadre Peron the Antarctic and the Falklands if he won... and Peron being Argentinian couldn't deal with reality and started barking on about owning everything in the world.
This government is still Peronist, and still spouting the rhetoric of Hitler and Peron...
they're a danger to humanity.
So why are you whining?
The UK govt has already admitted and regretted its guilt in respect of the Chagos and has granted them British citizenship and numerous hearings in courts.....
The key differences between you and us..is we have said we made mistakes in the past...no excuses.
You lot on the other hand come up with every conceivable excuse on the planet to justify your abhorrent disregard for the Islanders rights and democracy.....
To all those brave soldiers and civilians who fought against the Argentine oppressors and rose victorious against overwhelming odds.
FALKLANDS TO REMAIN FREE
GOD SAVE THE QUEEN
Please try and actually come up with one new and legitamate reason to argue your point, Im getting sick of the winging and bullshit.
Do you understand the differnce between “hunter killer” nuclear submarines, SSN in NATO terminology, and Trident missile submarines, SSBN in NATO terminology?
If any UK nuclear submarines are in the South Atlantic, these will be SSNs. SSN's don't carry nuclear missiles - their role is anti-submarine, anti-ship and also precision land attack using Tomahawk cruise missiles.
There is no need to send Trident submarines, SSBNs, to the South Atlantic: the range of these missiles is about 12,000 km, which the missile covers at about 21,000 kph.
If you are referring to 1833, the local population of the Falkland Islands were not illegally expelled in 1833. Try looking up the history, or if you don't agree, reference a source that says otherwise-and if you wish I will provide you with a sourced reference that backs up what I say. The illegal United Provinces of the River Plate criminals were expelled (later some were tried and executed by the Buenos Aires authorities, something you always fail to point out). The civilians were asked if they wanted to stay under British rule.
4 (not from the UPot RP) wanted to leave, but they had a choice (therefore they were not expelled),and the other settlers, most from the UPotRP wanted to stay under British rule. This means, you fool, that as they were allowed to stay, they were not expelled.
Moreover as the Islands were British since 1765, and a protest (ignored by the UPotRP) was made by the UK government about the militia and penal colony, the presence of the UPotRP authorities was illegal and the British had every right to expel them. The fact that most of the population that was allowed to stay were the original forefathers of the present Falkland Islanders, shows that there was no artificially transplanted population on the Islands which is an Argentine myth.
a) reading and understanding an argument
b) responding with anything other than opinion
c) learning
So, although what you say is the truth. It's largely lost on the small cognitive abilities of argentines.
They don't even know Argentina didn't exist in 1833.
@3 TROLL. IRRESPONSIBLE TROLL. MURDEROUS TROLL.
@5 Traitor.
@6 You haven't “thought” yet. Why start now?
@8 You don't have anything to “think” with!
@9 You would know about “turds”. Having a cuntry composed of little else.
@12 But you want to!
@18 Point 1: Remind us again of how many South American natives you exterminated. Point 2: The Falkland Islands are considerably more habitable. Except for the nearby argies. The stink that wafts across some days.
@29 Thanks for confirming you don't reside in Britain. The whole country can heave a sigh of relief. “British” my arse!
@30 STFU. Asshole.
Here's the thing about this pirate invasion of 1833: what crap! Not a death worth a damn, no maidens held to ransom, no keelhauling, no walking the plank. Hardly so much as a dog kicked or a beard singed!
And a so-called “expulsion” that leaves Rivero and his gang still on site several months later to show the world how a proper murder spree is conducted.
And to add insult to injury, a mere 17 years the Argentines have forgotten the whole thing to the point that they are prepared to sign a treaty settling all disputes.
What kind of a crap pirate invasion is this? Anybody might think it never happened! Frankly, I'm embarassed! I hope my pirate ancestors complained to their MP at the time, or OFLOOT, or the Sir Francis Drake foundation, or whoever the responsible authority was at the time.
The book The last Colonies by Robert Aldrich and John Connell page 200
1833 ' The British commander raise the Union Jack, claimed possession of the islands and expelled the Argentinians.
”The Falklands officially became a Crown colony in 1840, a governor and a few Scotsmen arrived to establish a British pastoral settlement. Argentina hotly disputed the Brithish takeover, and Buenos Aires made continual diplomatic representations over the next 150 years to recover the islands”
The cool and careful analysis of the arguments and
issues does not, however, quite convey the obsessional, at
times rabid, nature of claims such as those as Argentina
over the Falklands.
The work concludes with a look into the future, noting
overall declining UN concern (with one or two exceptions)
over the territories, and the fact that in the majority the
inhabitants wish to maintain their dependent status
relationship.
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No it didn't. There were no representations between 1850 and 1884. Nor between 1884 and 1941. That's a total of 90 years. So, for more than half the time between 1833 and 2012, argieland said NOTHING. How easy it is to demonstrate argie STUPIDITY!
I have said it before, and I will sat it again - any argument using the eviction of the chagos islanders to justify thge eviction or subjugation of the Falklanders in morally bankrupt.
By the way - I note that Argentinians like rushing to the defence of Saddam Hussein and the Baath party in Iraq. You seem to like supporting facists who practice continual aggression against their neighbours and genocide against “undesirables”. Quite a lot of you like defending Nazi Germany too.........
Saddam Hussein was a monster created by you. Iraq is not a country. Get it? It was a British/French whim
Libya is not a country, it was an Italian whim.
Tanzania is not a country, it was a German whim.
And on and on and on... Why do you think Africa and the Middle East have the most internecine turmoil of any places in the world? Because the borders carved out by YOU are irrational.
Like carving a country from southern Ireland, England and northern France, or from southern Germany and northern Italy...
Look at Yugoslavia, Czecholovakia, etc... even in your own continent you see what happens wehn you create “nations” that make no sense ethnically, religiously, or tribally.
I don't support the facsists, but I support your interventions even less! They were the original disease.
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