Do human beings not have human rights if they reside on a piece of land that Argentina wants?
The first petitioner for the Falkland Islands MLA Roger Edwards before the UN Decolonization Committee said that Argentina claims to fight against colonialism yet wishes to annex the Islands and “subject our people to alien subjugation and domination”, which is the very definition of colonialism.
MLA Edwards also referred to the fact that the Argentine Government claims to fight for human rights but ignores the rights of Falkland Islanders? “Or do human beings not have human rights if they reside on a piece of land that Argentina wants?”
Likewise MLA Edwards found it interesting that this Special Committee’s draft resolution on the Falkland Islands does not recall or reaffirm all of the principles of the United Nations Charter, particularly the right to self determination.
The full text follows:
Mr Chairman, distinguished delegates, ladies and gentlemen, I am Roger Edwards, an elected Member of the Falkland Islands Legislative Assembly and I take great pleasure in making this statement to you all today on this our thirtieth Anniversary of Liberation from the illegal invasion and 74 day occupation by the armed forces of Argentina.
As a result of that defeat, Argentina lost its brutal military dictatorship and has subsequently experienced the longest period of democracy in its history. Unfortunately, this has not stopped Argentina from persisting with its attempts to deny the people on the Falkland Islands our democratic rights.
This Argentine Government attempts to distance itself from the actions of previous Argentine military governments. I accept that Argentina has changed and I am pleased that it has. However, I do not understand how the Government of Argentina can absolve itself and its people from its recent past, while simultaneously seeking to punish and harm a small and peaceful Falkland Islands’ people for something that it incorrectly claims to have happened almost two centuries ago.
This Argentine Government claims to fight against colonialism, yet wishes to take away our people’s rights, annex our islands and subject our people to alien subjugation and domination – the very definition of colonialism.
This Argentine Government claims that Argentines are banned from visiting or settling in the Islands. This claim is not borne out when you look at the number of Argentines visiting by both sea and air every year nor by the small but significant number of Argentines who live permanently in the Islands. Many of these Argentines have lived sufficiently long in the Islands to now consider themselves Falkland Islanders.
This Argentine Government claims to fight for human rights. What about the rights of Falkland Islanders? Or do human beings not have human rights if they reside on a piece of land that Argentina wants?
This Argentine Government claims that the UK is ignoring United Nations General Assembly resolutions, when it is itself ignoring the United Nations Charter which obliges all members to respect the principle of equal rights and self-determination.
In summary this is all clear evidence of hypocrisy. I understand from the recent news that the accusation of hypocrisy is not something new for this Argentine Government, but it is nonetheless symptomatic of this Argentine Government and its policy towards the Falkland Islands. I can assure you however, that the Falkland Islands Government does not try to interfere with the currency or location of our citizens’ savings.
This Government of Argentina has been conducting economic warfare against the people in the Falkland Islands. During the last few years Argentina has withdrawn from almost all forms of co-operation. In addition, it has banned charter flights through its airspace; under Presidential Decree 256, it has threatened to intercept shipping; it has attempted to persuade other South American countries to refuse lawful entry of Falkland Islands registered ships and, through intimidation and association, it has tried to harm and damage our hydrocarbons industry. Moreover it has attempted to damage our fishing and tourism industries which we have been successfully developing.
The Falkland Islands has grown out of its colonial status and has become a democratic Overseas Territory of the United Kingdom. It now has devolved powers and a new post-colonial constitution, as well as new found wealth and, since the eviction of the Argentine forces on this day in 1982, we have moved forward with a new found energy and confidence to face the future. Our post colonial constitution is, in itself, a reflection of our aspirations to press on with internal self-governance. Today, therefore, all that we ask for is the right to determine our own future without having to endure the belligerent and bullying tactics of a neighbouring country.
Mr Chairman, last year we invited you and members of the Committee to our Islands so that you could see for yourselves the progress that we have made in developing our Islands, our Constitution and our internal self Government. The special Committee offers advice on the options available to Non Self-Governing Territories in the exercise of their right to self-determination and we could have discussed this in detail. Sadly, you did not take up this very genuine invitation and so I extend the same invitation to you again today. I am sure that by accepting, by seeing our Islands and by talking to our people, you will recognise just how important it is to us to exercise our right of self-determination as we are currently doing.
Mr Chairman, we in the Falkland Islands were somewhat dismayed to see that your predecessor visited Argentina but did not accept our invitation to visit. My understanding, Mr Chairman, is that this committee and its members are expected to adopt resolutions on the basis of an impartial and informed understanding of the issues. How can this Committee truly understand the issue and adopt resolutions when it has never officially visited our Islands? First hand knowledge is always helpful.
There is no alternative to the principle of self-determination. Within both United Nations General Assembly resolutions and international law, it is explicit that the right of self-determination applies to ALL peoples. It does not say SOME peoples, or even ALL peoples except those involved in a sovereignty dispute, as Argentina would like you to think. Argentina tried to insert that exact language in a General Assembly resolution in 2008 and failed, with the General Assembly re-iterating that self-determination applied to ALL peoples, with no pre-conditions. Argentina has consistently attempted and, quite rightly failed to dilute the principle of self-determination under the United Nations Charter.
I find it interesting that this Special Committee’s draft resolution on the Falkland Islands does not recall or reaffirm all of the principles of the United Nations Charter. Considering that the principles of the United Nations Charter prevail over all other international agreements and resolutions, it is strange that this draft resolution only appears to reaffirm some of the principles of the Charter of the United Nations.
It is however heartening to see that it does recall General Assembly Resolution 1514 of 1960. This was the founding resolution for the Decolonisation Committee. It declared and I quote:
“The subjection of peoples to alien subjugation, domination and exploitation constitutes a denial of fundamental human rights, is contrary to the Charter of the United Nations and is an impediment to the promotion of world peace and co-operation.” It also declared; “All peoples have the right to self-determination; by virtue of that right they freely determine their political status and freely pursue their economic, social and cultural development.” Argentina is currently imposing an economic blockade on the Falkland Islands and so is acting against the very principles of Resolution 1514.
Let me be clear, if the United Kingdom were to negotiate sovereignty with the Republic of Argentina against the wishes of the Falkland Islands’ people, this would deny us our right to self-determination. In addition, it would be subjugation and domination by the United Kingdom and the Republic of Argentina thus constituting a denial of fundamental human rights, contrary to the Charter of the United Nations.
Argentina has argued for many years that General Assembly Resolution 1514 also declares, and I quote “Any attempt aimed at the partial or total disruption of the national unity and the territorial integrity of a country is incompatible with the purposes and principles of the Charter of the United Nations.” The problem with this is that facts do not support Argentina’s claim.
Firstly, the principle of territorial integrity did not exist in 1833. If it did the world would look very different today. But more importantly the Islands were never Argentine! No Argentine civilians were ever forcibly expelled from the Islands in 1833! Records prove this as fact. At that time Argentina was a brand new country, half the size it is today, and did not even have territorial integrity over Patagonia, let alone the Falkland Islands. Argentina stopped protesting over the Falkland Islands after ratifying the Convention of Settlement in 1850. In the years that followed, Argentine Presidents, such as Bartolome Mitre, Domingo Sarmiento and Vice President Marcos Paz confirmed publicly that Argentina had no dispute with Britain and Argentine Constitutions made no mention of the Falkland Islands. Argentina only submitted one official protest between 1850 and the Second World War. With Argentina’s agreement, this issue was resolved 162 years ago.
History does not support Argentina and neither do any of the modern principles of the United Nations Charter. A peoples’ right of self-determination is a fundamental modern democratic right which takes precedence, a point which has been highlighted time and again by decisions of the International Court of Justice, international arbitrations and through peoples’ revolutions across the globe.
Under the auspices of the United Nations General Assembly, Resolution 1514 (XV) of 1960, people from Non Self Governing Territories can exercise self-determination and reach full measure of Self Government by ‘Free Association’, by ‘Integration’ or by becoming ‘Independent’. There is however a fourth way!
In a paragraph taken directly from the 2004 brochure on the “United Nations and Decolonisation” is the following statement:
“In 1970 it was agreed by the legal committee of the General Assembly” that in addition to the above “three options, the emergence into any other political status, as long as it is freely determined by the people, can also be considered a way of implementing the right of self-determination by that people.”
In other words, should the majority of the people so wish, and as long as they can demonstrate their own free will to remain as they are, the United Nations will accept the status quo.
Mr Chairman, we have had in the past, a poll conducted under the watchful eye of the internationally acclaimed firm Mori, to ascertain where the people thought their future lay. An overwhelming 96% of the electorate wished to retain the status quo and remain as an Overseas Territory of the United Kingdom enjoying full internal Self Government while looking to the United Kingdom for guidance on its foreign policy and for its defence, such defence only being required because of the ongoing belligerence shown by our closest neighbour.
Mr Chairman, the Government and the people of the Falkland Islands announced on the 12th June, that we have decided to conduct a referendum to re-affirm to the world, if re-affirmation were needed, our wishes to retain the status quo, to remain under the sovereignty we desire. The referendum will be conducted within the next year and will be observed by an internationally recognised body ensuring free and fair voting and the outcome reported as a true wish of the people.
Sadly, Mr Chairman, there is one in the Argentine delegation today who has already declared this exhibition of self-determination to be illegitimate and not complying with international law. Perhaps he is suggesting that the United Nations Charter itself is illegal; because it supports the right of all peoples to determine their own future. Mr Chairman, I am confident that the outcome of this referendum will show a similar result to the poll conducted previously. It will express the wishes of the Islanders and show this Committee and the world that the people of the Falkland Islands know what we want for our future. That will be true self-determination in action.
Mr Chairman, thank you.
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MLA Edwards certainly did his homework. Congratulations.
Excellent speach,president Kirchner!
Down with the brits pirates!
ARGENTINA 29 ---MAlvinas 0!!
AAHHAAHHAHAHHAHHA
LOSERS!!
great speech and those of us able to see MLA Edwards deliver it via internet will remember it. One of the important speeches that will surely form a key part of Falkland Islands history
Garbage speech by the pirates!!
KFC said: “ I felt shame from afar for them because wars are not to be celebrated nor are they to be commemorated. Do you know why? Because many people lost their lives.”
HOWEVER……………………
Monday, April 2nd 2012 - 01:49 UTC
Cristina Fernandez leads main Malvinas war commemoration in Ushuaia
Argentine president Cristina Fernandez will lead on Monday the main ceremony commemorating the 30th anniversary of the beginning of the Malvinas war or South Atlantic conflict, when Argentine troops invaded the Falklands and held them for 74 days until ousted by a British Task Force.
“The Argentine president ATTENDED the CEREMONY at the impressive Malvinas Plaza in Ushuaia with Vice President Amado Boudou, Tierra del Fuego governor Fabiana Rios, members of her cabinet other local and military authorities, foreign delegations plus Malvinas war veterans and next of kin organizations.”
Sorry to all malvinists, but I think I just proved that your Queen is either a liar or a plain lunatic or possibly both !!!!!
So suck that, and try and tell me I am wrong!
Cristina Fernandez leads main Malvinas war commemoration in Ushuaia
Argentine president Cristina Fernandez will lead on Monday the main ceremony commemorating the 30th anniversary of the beginning of the Malvinas war or South Atlantic conflict, when Argentine troops invaded the Falklands and held them for 74 days until ousted by a British Task Force.'
As I said:
It raises questions about the sincerity of Argentine claims to be 'peace-loving' that Kirchner celebrates on the anniversary of the beginning of a war, not the end.
How humiliating for Argentina though. Not only does your President demean your country by attending this minor committee, which no self-respecting senior government official would do let alone a Head of State, but then she gives a completely uninspiring speech, filled with obvious lies and contradictions.
And all the while she is spending tax payers money on frivolities, such as taking out huge advertisements in British newspapers, which will not change the resolve of the British people to protect the people of the Falklands from the train wreck that is Argentina, but strengthen it.
I hope CFK enjoys her shopping trip, again using taxpayers money, probably from the pensions that she stole.
CFK has lied so spectacularly and so often shes clearly got no idea what she has said previously and contradicts herself on a hilarious scale.
CFK's speech part of Falkland's history? Haha.... We've already forgot about that meaningless bunch of lies and ridiculous points. I laughed almost all the way through it.
Haha!
It shows what level of intellect you're talking about here.
The speech by the Syrian guy was most hilarious. The committee was one step away from suggesting the UN Charter was irrelevant, and the Papua New Guinea guy did the right thing by suggesting the Committee was just utter utter rubbish.
It was very good fun to watch, and I suggest the UN sell it on DVD.
Still we gave you hell.brit prick!
Papua New Guinea guy did the right thing by suggesting the Committee was just utter utter rubbish
Even that the MAlvinenses are losing.....
They are finished
Listening to those squatters summers,and edward was PATHETIC!!
Bye bye losers!
AHAHAHHAHAHHAHHHHAAH
keep spending money to NO AVAIL!
@17 At least we all HAVE money!
the C24 is a very Biased organisation or at least appeared to be. with a larger then average formed from latin america it self. who clearly have views that are counter productive.
it would be more fair if the Representative involved had had more experience in tune with each country that “needs” decolonizing in the case of the Falklands i would suggest country's that are neutral to the Falkland island issue who have high regard for how the UN works
personally i don't see why decolonization is necessary. i feel the islands (Falklands and any other territory's that wish to remain with the UK) should be permanently integrated in to the UK and in the case of Argentina remove all diplomatic ties until they accept its our way or the highway
i feel the UN is obsessed with Decolonization and these liberation movement will calm down in time. UK and territory's are happy with the statue quo all others be damned
I personally thought the Syrian guy lecturing the UK on human rights, and trying to undermine the relevance of a referendum was hilarious.
You cannot buy comedy like that.
Even she and Timerman has maintained they will at least consider our interests. - How the hell cam you with out at least listening to and discussing them!!!!
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a) The c24 only has remit to discuss and issue reoslutions ataining to decolonisation not soveringity disputes
b) It is not in compliance with the UN charter
Argentine have won nothing other than another trip to the UN next year to repeat the same tired lies and contridictory statements. Such as all we want to do is talk but we will not accept an offer to do so when invited by the FLC. The UK will continue to ingore these illegal resolution untill a time comes in which the Islanders ask the UK government to talk to the Argentine government. Lets get this straight Argentine and its despot freinds in SA have absolutly no way to enforce any talks what so ever and will spend the rest of their existence moaning about lack of prgoress, you are no closer to taking the islands than you were 30 years ago.
its run by her indocrinoughts, and a bloody disgrace it is,
this commitee, should be scrapped,
so why isnt it,,
That's why you ignore them. You disgusting rodent.
You disgust me.
By the way the Spanish or the Kingdom of Castille (there was no unified Spain) actually removed the African Moors by force in 1462.
So why exacly do Spain have any claim???
You have an excellent point there, one which will not be missed by a lot of people, in the UN and elsewhere. Major, major diplomatic, blunder by the Argentines, yet another one in a long list of diplomatic blunders.
What else is there to say?
Why do you thick git's insist on quoting things you know absolutely nothing about.
From the Americas, through Africa and down to Australia.
Pick up a map of The Americas..yes go on!! pick it up!!
Where are the largest representation of Indian population and where
are there hardly any Indians?? I don´t have to answer this for you,
do I? you silly pea brain.
That is right the Indian populations are in Central and South
America..colonies of The Spanish. AND
the Indian colonies in NOrth America are mainly in the South West
region run by THe Spanish and Mexicans.
@34 And I suppose you know everything!!
@ 32 Did you finish school?? or are you of these people that learnt
nothing in class? Let me enlighten you..Spain become unified in 1492 when
Spain kicked out the last remaining moors from Spain ( some year
That the Spanish discovered America.
And the winners in a war can and will remove you whether you want or not..and in this case the Spanish Inhabitants were removed by
force ...much easier if you have a little paper saying you have the
right--something like that little paper that Neville Chamberlain
signed with Hitler which later Hitler used (the paper) as dunny
paper...well the same here...
a) The largest population of Indians in is India.
b) No one in the Falklands was removed by force, other than the military who mutinied. The Vernet's community, which asked the UK to settled on the Falklands, failed and they left.
c) Argentina routinely slaughtered their native population and continue to allow them to starve, as has been in the press regularly.
Apoligise I got my dates slightly mixed up however it still does not remove the fact that Spain dispelled a population of Moors from Gibraltor so they have rightfull claim not Spain. Spain removed the Moors by force or are you prospoing that as non Christians they have no rights.
Again Spain ceeded Gibraltar in a treaty in return for British acceptance of Philip V as king of Spain at this point spain lost all rights to area.
You are wrong also in stating the larget concentration of native American tribes are from the South and South West of the USA. the 2000 census records show that the top 10 native tribes are.
1. Navajo Nation (Ariz.-N.M.-Utah) 175,228 2. Cherokee (Okla.) 104,482 3. Creek (Okla.) 77,253 4. Lumbee (N.C.) 62,327 5. Choctaw (Okla.) 39,984 6. Cook Inlet (Alaska) 35,972 7. Chickasaw (Okla.) 32,372 8. Calista (Alaska) 20,353 9. United Houma Nation (La.) 15,305 10. Sealaska (Alaska) 15,059
Only 1 of which is the area you mentioned, and althought it is the biggest the others far exceed it in population.
Are you denying that General Roca commited genocide in the 1870 (approx 50 years after the events of 1833) when he clensed the pampas and Patagonia and then implanted a population from the Unitd Prov of the Rio Plata?
So what about the rights of the original inhabitants of Australia and Argentina then.
Or do you like being a planter too much for that!
How far back do you want go with this?
This has been going on since the dawn of human history, in history no one is innocent or they would not be here today
The issue is about people’s rights TODAY.
For Argentina to claim they had the right to De-colonise themselves, but the Islanders do not is pure hypocrisy.
Talk of “implanted populations” from Argintines is simply laughable.
A completely fictional version of history from Argentina.
And a completely, morally bankrupt argument.
The South West Of the USA. The Navajos were named by the
Spanish. I am sure This General Roca commited genocide but so did other nations in the name of Empires.
Cheers
Fisrtly, it's true that the whole population from the islands wasn't expelled in 1833, but rogers omits that our authorities were forced to leave the islands (commander jose maria pinedo), and was lowered the argentine flag, what the u. k did that day, was to deprive argentina of exercising it's rights which were based on the succession of states, thats' omited by rogers too. On the other hand, it's true that after 1850 untill 1884, our country didn't claim for the islands, but it's also true that the convention of settlement of 1850 didn't have anything to do with the dispute for the islands, it was related to the rasing of the blockade only. Beside, between 1884 and 1888, arg. suggested the u. k to take the question to the arbitration, which was rejected by the u. k, on the other hand, in none of the answers by the government of her british majesty the u. k didn't even mention the convention of 1850. It's hightly arguable to invoke that treaty because in 1968 1973 and 1980 the u. k tried to start negotiations with argentina with the purpose of finishing with this dispute, so, the actions of the u. k dont help it to invoke the convention of 1850. In fact cristina yesterday read before everyone the public documents that are found at our chancery, that are related to the negotiations between arg. and the u. k before peron's death. Anyway cristina omitted the silences of our country between 1850 and 1884, and didn't say a word about the readley's mission of 1980.
On the other hand, the u. n didn't ask yesterday the u. k to return the islands to arg., in fact it has never done it. It means that if the islanders want to remain under british government, nobody can change that, but it doesn't mean that we can't find a fair solution for all the parts, maybe thats' something that enather rogers nor all the rest of the l. a want.
“Only 1 of which is the area you mentioned, and althought it is the biggest the others far exceed it in population” oh yea there it was.
However your statement that majority of natives are from the areas of the USA orginally governed by the Spanish was incorrect was it not?
The difference is that the UK is not currency attemping to colonise anywhere, where as the Argentines are currently attmeping the colonisation (by definition) of the Falklands.
The point of many on here is that for Argentine to call the British evil for our colonial past is hypocritcal as Argentine has the same deamons. I do not deny britains colonial past, the argentine government believes it to be a good thing (the conquest of the desert is celebrated on the 100 peso note)
What the British did that day was to recover what had long been British territory.
You cannot argue “the succession of states” over territory you have illegally seized in the first instance.
This is a case of “the succession of failures”.
Argentina being no more successful in stealing that British territory than the Spanish, French or Dutch before them.
The convention of settlement 1850, settled ALL disputes between Britain and Argentina, by definition including the Falklands issue.
As usual you try and completely misrepresent history, and completely omit the moral issue of today, thinking no one will notice.
Nothing can remove or negate the Islanders rights under the UN convention.
Think again.
a) Argentinians seem incapable of understanding that they are an implanted population given the Conquest of the Desert pretty much destroyed all life other than that brought in.
b) The British claim for the Falklands from 1700's. Claiming we ejected people who were there legally is just utter utter nonsense.
c) Are they not aware that negotiations in 1850 were clearly then ignored by the Argentines making our trust of them with regards to sovereignty, approximately zero.
Seriously, are Argentines really this imbecilic? They seem incapable of absorbing any kind of objective fact. Do they not understand that they're not trustworthy?
Frankly everyone has given up any hope of talking to the present Arg government as there is now so little trust of CFK and her cronies
I hope at some point ther may be more constructive dialogue regarding mutual co operation etc but I think that has been put back 10 years
Deciding the fate of a people in modern context by arcane points of law from the late 18th and early 19th century is faintly ridiculous. The Falklands would probably be on the road to full independence if they didn't feel there was a military threat hanging over their heads
Can you provide the link to documents where Spain transfered sovereignity of the Falkland Islands to Argentina? Presumably these documents would be dated 1816, although I understood that Argentina was not a country (seperate from Uraguay) until the mid-1880s
And if so, why did Spain continue to claim sovereignity of the Falkland |Islands well into the 1880s?
Can you remind me which date Spain recognised Argentina? So as Uraguay was a part of the United Provinces of the River Plate, why did they not have a successsion claim to the Falkland Islands after 1816?
The British had a claim on the Islands from 1765 and did not relinquish it, so Pinedo's men were seen as illegitimate, as , unlike Vernet's settlers, they had not recieved permission from the British Government to be there.
Besides, over on another article TiT (Truth_Telling_Troll) has already virtually admitted that the Falklands has nothing argieland wants and CFK has been lying through her teeth.
may have been [ vikins]
from arround the 14/15 centuries,
mmmm
There is a lot of moaning from the British side which indicates that something is biting hard .
Too right mate. According to Argentine logic;
1) celebrating the cessation of hostilities (i.e. Liberation Day) is offensive and glorifies the war, as opposed to celebrating the commencement of hostilities (i.e. Argentina's celebrations of April 2nd)
2) Flying the Falkland Island flag in a show of solidarity is cause for shame and disgust, whereas having your nations citizens burn British flags and generally act like they were in the Middle East during the Arab Spring is perfectly acceptable
CFK and Argentina in general is the dictionary definition of the pot calling the kettle black.
@Aussie Sunshine #all of your posts
Go to the kiddies table to talk mate, the grownups are trying to have a sensible conversation here.
The only moaning going on about this issue is coming from Latin America. Britain is continuing to act in a gentlemanly and refined manner, while the various TPLSACs (To paraphrase 'Yes Minister') prattle on like some bratty little child.
Really? What is your evidence for this?
The effectiveness of the illegal blockade is, with all due respect (ie none at all) not anything that you would know anything at all about; so you are as usual just spouting your usual drivel.
Your peronalised, autographed copy, is winging its way to you as we speak.
Complete with a life times free subscription to the KFC fan club. Sources have it that you are going to be invited to hold the venerable post of President of the UK branch. May I be the first to offer you my heartfelt and sincere congratulations. I do hope this life changing honour will adversly affect you.
Just remember, we knew you on here when you were still a normal person.
@35 Yeah, it's a shame that Americans wiped out so many of the North American Indians. And SUCH a shame that the Spanish, and to a lesser extent the Portuguese, thought it reasonable to exterminate up to 100 million South American Indians. And so nice to know that the winners in a war have the right to “remove” any of those there before that they don't want. Must remember that next time WE have 11,000 plus latin american “prisoners”. What say we fly them “toward” the continent, dropping one or two hundred off each mile?
@55 You get on here. Why would we want any more drivelling garbage?
@56 Its never been either “normal” or a “person”.
Now I know you are taking the urine. Blind_Kirchnerist (he must be, he thinks The Mad Bitch is beautiful) has never been normal.
He is after all an unreconstructed communist in the traditional Old Labour (Scotland) ilk. It is not really a surprise he fancies some old tart who cannot hold an intelligent conversation in any language, nevermind English.
All the women he has personally known have the same traits!
I suspect he is waiting for all the Brits on here to club together to pay for his airfare to his beloved Argentina.
Hang on, it may even be worth it to get rid of him once and for all: knife in the guts in front of the war memorial again?
What about the Scottish, St Helenian, Argentine, Chilean Canadian, and Falkland Islander communities on the Falkland Islands??
As the Falkland Islands are a multi-cultural society I probably have missed some of the communities out. Any FI's there who can enlighten further on this?
Let me see now, have I got this right, you would advocate and support ethnic cleansing of the current population of the Islands?
If that is the case, then can I just say this. The body bags you talk about, you are certainly going to need a plentiful supply of them, because before any Brit stands by and lets you, or any one else, ethnically cleans their people, they are going to do their damnest to fill them for you!
Oh and please, at least have the courtesy to equip the future contents of those bags with “Dog tags” this time. Even a dead war criminal is entitled to have his name on his grave marker.
That's right, war criminal, any soldier why invades a land and cleanses it of the inhabitants is a war criminal. Niced to see you have no scruples about supporting that.
So no change there then.
The UK stole the Falklands/Malvinas, they won't give it back. Too much time has passed. Period. But please smirk with discretion, high five in private, but enough with the hypocritical self righteous indignation. Please.
Actually they are called the Channel Islands, except the French don’t question the Islanders right to decide their own future.
Any more that the British would in your scenario “île du fromage”
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