Boom year for the Falklands’ tourism industry propped by the war’s anniversary
Tourist arrivals to the Falkland Islands are expected to increase by 14.9% in 2012, with a significant 28.8% jump in the number of leisure visitors, mainly driven by the 30th anniversary of the Falklands War.
This works up to over 7.600 arrivals (up 9% over 2011) because of returning servicemen, journalists and interested leisure visitors, according to Acorn Consulting on behalf of the Falkland Islands Tourist Board.
In total, 7.635 overnight visitors are expected to visit the Islands in 2012, spending over £4.8 million and cruise passenger arrivals are forecast to remain unchanged in the 2012/13 season, totalling around 35.000 day visitors.
Domestic tourism is forecast to grow in 2012, albeit at a moderate rate of 3.5%, and will generate 14.300 trips and £1.25 million in expenditure.
In the first quarter of 2012, tourist arrivals from the UK grew marginally. Overall there were 1.516 overnight visitors from the UK.
Overall visitors’ arrivals in 2012 by inbound overnight tourists, cruise passengers and domestic tourists are expected to total over 57,000, spending over £7.3 million.
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(“Rockhopper” or the “Company”)
Farm-out agreement signed with Premier Oil plc
Rockhopper, the North Falkland Basin oil and gas company, is pleased to announce that it has entered into a conditional farm-out agreement with Premier Oil plc (“Premier”), regarding the Company's interests in its petroleum licences in the North Falkland Basin (the “Transaction”).
Highlights of the Transaction
· Premier to acquire 60 per cent. of Rockhopper's interests in its North Falkland Basin licences
o US$231 million upfront cash payment on completion of transaction
o US$722 million Sea Lion development carry (net to Rockhopper)
o US$48 million exploration carry (net to Rockhopper)
· Premier to provide standby financing arrangement at Rockhopper's election to cover any additional development capex beyond the development carry of US$722 million
It is becomming clear that the outcome of the Mad Botox Woman's campaign against the Falkland Islands people is producing effects completely opposite those desired or dreamed of by MBW.
Argentinas attempt at colonisation of its succesful neighbours is falling flat on its arse.
How sad.
“Falkland Islands - the Premier tourist destination in the South Atlantic.”???????
“In total, 7.635 overnight visitors are expected to visit the Islands in 2012”
Wow! That reaaaaaly is huge amount. Doesn’t it?
@Britworker
“English speaking with a strong northern european work ethic”????
Are you talking about???
Germans perhaps????
Brits are lazy and incompetents. Sorry but someone have to tell you the truth.
“They hate the Islanders because they make them look like amateurs.”
Sorry to hurt your feelings but I guess the only one paying attention to Islanders or British may be they are all in this forum.
Btw do you import arrogance from little Britain or just comes with the language??? just curious
The Argentines winge, bully, and corrupt history=bugger all effect.
The Falklands make slow but steady progressand show the rest of South America how a country is properly run-with a liitle help from the UK in the form of defence against the Argetnines governments corrupt beligerence.
Note 7,600 overseas visitors is enormous when the population to finance is only C.3000
That would be roughly the equivalent to 100,000,000 tourists to Argentina
So much for Argentina getting in the way.
Dany certainly is. Although all his type always post uninformed, unsubstantiated crap in response to any good news that comes out about the British Falklands. What else can they do though when so much good news is coming out?
He or one of his mates will be telling us next that the oil bit is all a big conspiracy. This usually happens when some long established, successful and experienced company invests a few hundred million in the British Falklands industries.
Good news. That'll bring on a particularly loud wailing, gnashing of teeth and rattling of empty sabres from Argentina, lets's see how many 'eeengleesh pirats' sort of comments there from them.
Maybe the tourists feel safer when visiting the Falklands as opposed to the Argentine.? Just a thought.
Beaches , piers , seafront entertainments , fruit machines , bingo , kiss me quick hats,
Fish and chips ,
Hey come on, anything is possible,
The future looks bright ,
And the envious are queuing up.
Is this not partly true .
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Argentine GOv~ approach to the Falklands is all wrong anyway. Kirchner is trying to persuade the whole world that Argentina should have the Falklands even though history says otherwise and there is already a People living there; instead all she ACTUALLY needs to do is convince 3000 Falklands Islanders.
Surely any Argentine with an ounce of intelligence has to wonder why she is taking the “Persuade 6.8 billion people” is easier than “Persuade 3000 people” approach?
I'd suggest it is about Argentine pride. They dream of being able to take the Falklands in a “told you so” manner and somehow win a war in which the Falklands conflict was merely a battle lost.
You've gotta feel a bit sorry for them really.
www.buenosairesherald.com/article/105957/uk-company-strikes-us$1-billion-deal-to-pump-oil-in-malvinas
www.buenosairesherald.com/article/105957/uk-company-strikes-us$1-billion-deal-to-pump-oil-in-malvinas
I've never saw people so happy for little things like this.
Are you always so optimist or is just that you never have nothing to happy about?
Because after 200 years and I don't remember how many generations your progress have been so poor.
Have you realised that you have the little GDP in the whole western Hemisphere?
How long will take to see any type of civilised world there? another 200 years perhaps? ha ha
I'm guessing he was addressing another Argentine?
Well not really no. UK has 8th LArgest GDP in the world (tip: that is why it is in the G8)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)
Try again with a new argument.
Dany, the GDP per capita of the FI is #7 with a value of US$55.400 (2002), the GDP per capita of Argentina is #51 with a value of US$17.376 (2011).
The fact that the FI had a GDP of US$75 million in 2005 and has a negative government debt of £14 million is pretty amazing, sounds like very good administration. CFK should ask the FIG for lessons!!!!
FI Govt and peaople also say a BIG thankyou Cristina because now the world is learning that there are TWO sides to the story and PEOPLE are involved - and it has not cost us a penny - and we have made money from it!! Double win!!
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)_per_capita
“How long will take to see any type of civilised world there? another 200 years perhaps? ha ha”
Come and see if you want, you'll find we're pretty civilised Danny.
Unless you mean the trappings of civilisation like Shitty fast food franchises, shanty towns, slums, homelessness, street crime, pollution and so on, if you're looking for that sort of civilisation then yes you'll find us very uncivilised.
To those wondering how I got to type Chavez the Spanish way, I was cutting and pasting! No smoking gun here
It seems he had difficulties remembering the spelling of Chavez's name (all 6 letters), notwithstanding the fact that he had copied and pasted the name many times either (all from English websites) and the spelling of the name was directly in front of him as he was writing, on this occasion, and struggling with the spelling AGAIN, he decided to change his computer settings to seek out a Spanish website to copy from and finish off his brief posting.
NO
I agree Argentina is a beautiful country I have spent a lot of time travelling here but it is becoming more and more expensive especially internal flights, accomodation and food. This time last year I was able to get a night in a chain brand hotel in BsAs for around $120 US a night now the same hotel for the same dates is now around $150 US a night. It is simple economics that high inflation and a low strength peso will discourage tourists. tourists are also getting annoyed over the difficulties of selling back pesos they have not used when leaving the country.
Understand you live there. What about all of the crime and violence?
Are being a little contentious here? You are not getting the territory and it never belonged to you. Is that OK?
Just listen to that superior English (Chile, NZ, Australia, Canada, Argentina etc. etc. etc.) civilisation that lives across the pond from you.
@ 29 Violence and crime exists in any large country in the world, or does not live London recently a wave of looting or riots? if you have no violence or crime rates is because they are as a community very, very small.
could not agree more, and I've been to most of them.
Issues in London were different and a lot of people are now in prison. There seems to be a lot of disenfranchised people in the world at the moment. Sad to see the picture, circulating the world, of the Spanish lady bleeding from head wounds and as a result of crack from a Policeman's baton.
I was talking about personal crime. Saw a survey from an University that claimed that 1 in 3 families of students had suffered in Argentina.
I dont live in Bs As so I escape the majority of the crime issues which do seem to be concentrated around the principal cities. I live in a fairly small city just north of Mendoza and as such I have not been affected personally.
What I can tell you is there is a real perception of high crime here. Many shops will require you to put bags, purse etc into a locker or to a securoty guard before you enter a shop and there are a huge number of police everywhere. We are constantly being warned by our Argentine friends that crime is a problem and to be careful. Many of the houses have bars on windows and doors (although this is just as likely to be a result of Spanish building styles).
Sorry I cant be of any more help Im sure someone who has spent more time on the major cities could tell you more. There is a big problem with grafitti thought which is not cleaned off, in fact the political parties grafiti political slogons all over any building they can get their hands on.
@31 but many of the islanders have been lived in the UK they were born on the islanders. Your argument is the same as insiting that Argentina belongs to the pre collumbian natives and all European settlers desendents should return to Germany, Italy, Spain, Wales, Scotland, UK, Eastern Europe even they were never born there.
I have a friends from Salta. The closest has nothing nice to say about this side of life., in particular theft. She has told me that at every opportunity, this will occur. Nothing can be left out unattended for a moment.
I shouldn't say this but a child (young teenager) from where I live was killed by a drunken Argentinian policeman (hit by a car) whilst he was on a rugby tour with his school in BA. You might have read about the story.
Relativity does not seem to be the point when you are being robbed and beaten up whether in Brasil or Argentina and after paying for a holiday. I understand what you mean though.
I am sure that Iguassu Falls are spectacular and will have a look for some videos on the internet.
I have just returned from a long weekend in Salta and I must admit it did seem a little less secure. It is so far the only palce I have found in Argentina with large groups of young men hanging around, insulting others and openly drinking on the street. As for theft I agree that if I did leave things unattended they would be gone. I do not leave my bike outside my flat without being locked to the railings.
The police here in Argentina do actualy scare me the majority seem to be very young (late teens early 20s) and all carry out firearms without what appears to be very muhc training in their use. My wife saw a young female officer lifting her pistol up with thumb and forefinger by the trigger guard before dropping it on the floor, thank god it didnt go off. I frequently see low level traffic crime (not wearing setabelts, speeding, going througth red lights, ignoring pedestrians, motorcycle helmets not being worn) being ingored by policemen at the side of the street.
You're correct, in terms of geographical attractions the Falklands cannot hold a candle to the large countries in the continent....yet our tourist industry, though tiny compared to the those on the continent, just keeps on growing, fast. Why don't you ask yourself why that is?
I would guess (having been to the cataratas de Iguazu) that the real reason 70% of tourists view them from the Argentine side is:
a) The falls themselves are in Argentina, you get a nice view from the Braziallian side but it does not compare in beauty to the Argentina side.
b) US citizens ( making up a large proprtion of tourists to Iguazu) need visas to cross into Brazil.
c) The Argebtine parque nacional is prettier and better organised.
Incidentily the whole area of north Missiones is very geared up for Tourists and as such crime is very low. The city of Iguazu is also small when compared to Mendoza, BsAs and Bariloche so you would expect crime to be smaller.
My friend spends all of her time in Europe and has stayed at my house on many occasions over the last 8 years. I have seen many pictures and the advertisement for (I think) Chivas Regal was made their. The Centre and Cathedral seem pretty and she keeps telling me to visit.
Rarely have we have spoken about the Falklands but she has no issues at all with it being British. She is very bright and no-one could brainwash her (she is far too clever). Her favorite country is England although her ancestry (a long time ago, but typically, has an European passport) is Italian.
She recalls a story that her great grandmother always told her that if the country had been colonized by the British and she has indigenous blood, the country would have been properly governed.
(awaiting the howls)
The referendum to undertake next year to ask? If you wish to remain British, so right? Do not ask if Americans want to be independent, right? Well then the British living in Britain belong to Europe. Now ask anyone in this part of the world and proudly tell them that it is American, is something you do not feel as their own and do not blame them. So I defend to remain British and as such are entitled to citizenship shame that this country refuses to provide a piece of his land to return. Again, British civilization is much better than ours would be nice to live fully in any town in England and not here in the ass of the world.
@42 I share your opinion ..
The argentines I am close to are all anti peronists and many do not care about the FI/IM what they really care about is the economy, what they do agree on is that CFK is using the wrong tactics to try and the islands.
Many Argentines hold dual nationality with either Spain or Italy. Was her grandmother a Poteño by any chance? They are the most angloised of the Argentines and many do not relaise that the majority of Argentine infrastructure and especialy in BsAs was built by the British Merchants who set up in BsAs in order to undermine Spanish trade (at the time the Proviences of the Rio Plate were part of the viceroyalty of Peru, and all trade had to go throgth Lima). It was this trading that brought money into Argentina and helped them build the armies and show them that they could be independent of Spnaish rule than set about the chnage of events that lead to the revolution, unfortuantly this side is very rarely taught in Argetnine schools.
No howls, a lot of Argentines, principally in Buenos Aires say that the worst thing that ever happened to Argentina was to beat the British invasions of 1806 and 1807.
Porteños are smart cookies lol. What most people do not relaise is that the anti British sentiment was constructed in the 1940s by Peron to nationise many of the buisness in Argentina which were run by Brits. It is ever since this point that Sucessive Peronist governments have continued with the anti-british sentiment in order to woe voters. However, I believe teaching a political motivated history in schools is wholy wrong and deplorable. The oppurtunity for good relations between Argentina and the UK are there and we have a long history of good relations but unfortuantly the Peronist governments need a scape goat.
By the way it seems very civillised on the forum today.
My home town of Comodoro Rivadavia has a 5 star Hotel, the Luciana Palazzo, the best of all.
Just seeing the picture these people don't have good taste on clothes.
They look so passe!.
She really is a citizen of the world and has lived everywhere.
On the economy, she has two brothers who live in Spain purely for economic reasons. They cannot find decent work in Salta but miss the life and family terribly. Sad really.
I cannot answer your question. Salta is near a couple of borders I believe and understand that there are cross overs by the original inhabitants.
I know a little about the early history of the country and Britain's involvement up to around the 1920s. The massive investments. The building of the infrastructure (rail networks and so on) and indeed BA. The tiny population at that time (10 fold now)
Irony given the criticism of the British Empire on this site that all of the money came from trade within the Empire (theft not trade if you ask our friends).
CLASS? COMODORO? Are you quite sure it is a town built on the back of hydro carbon exploration and has a number of abaondoned cosntruction projects including the stadium as the city ran out of money. Theres a casinos and thats about it. It may have a 10 storey hotel but this was build prodomently for buisness men who come in and out of Comodora as a way of travelling further south to the mining concesions in Santa Cruz and the hydro carbons. Comodors is not a classy place and neither is it a holiday destination.
So it is true that you are a 4 foot tall wicked dwarf then?
How about the restaurant around the costanera? Best lobster thermidor in town. How about my hairdresser Marconi trained in Paris?
How about Rada Tilly and its night clubs?
How about the Torraca apartments on Calle Almirante Brown?
Can you find all these in the Islands? No
Accept the facts. The islanders don't have money, no class.
Only 5*****
Boy we have 9 and 10 stars over here,..
You know we will never convince these brainwashed people, exactly what indoctrination is, as long as they are not willing to listen to the truth,
Then may we suggest,
That everybody goes back to square one, before the Europeans started out to explore and conquered the world,
And that way, we can all start again,
Say the 1300s or 14th century to Argies,
So if you all go back to where you originated from we can end this the logical way,
[But of course CFK knows not what logical is ] lol.
.
justa joka
What a strange notion that money=class. It's well seen what God thinks of money - look at the people he gives it too. !
I know what you're getting at. If the coming referendum is just going to be us having the 'choice' between being the sovereign territory of this Argentina or sovereign territory of Britain then it's no choice at all, it's a forgeone conclusion what the result will be and that result is no change. this would not be us exercising our right to self determination. This is supposed to be us showing the world that we have the right to choose our own political future but if it's phrased like that (and looks likely that it is) then in my opinion it's just a rather transparent way of ratifying British sovereignty of the Falklands, it'll impress no-one.
you dont have to be british, if you dont want to.
What you mean “overhere”? Cornswall, England?
I only found the Malvina House Hotel which looks so poor!
What justa joka means?
The
1. Claridge's,
2. The Dorchester, 5
3,
RITZ
4langham
all 5 star.
it means
justa joke .
The British government won't be constructing the question on the referendum paper, it will be The Falkland Island Government asking the question. All I have heard about it so far is would you like to maintain the status quo or opt for a different future of your own choice. The latter affords them no protection and the former guarantees protection from one of the worlds most technologically advanced armed forces in the world today. Which would you choose?
He is taking the piss out of you and you fell right into it. There is no such thing as a 9 or 10 star hotel. Given that Stanley is quite small do you not think a huge 10 storey building would look just a little out of place?
I have to disagree thought Comodoro is a dive, apart from that nice rugby bar, what was its name again?
Having 7,000 overnight tourists may not sound like a big thing to Argentines, but consider that this is 230% of the entire Falklands populaiton. Just imagine if 920,000,000 (2.3 times Argentina's population) land-based tourists visited Argentina in a single year. It is all relative.
eye no take the piss out of miss sussie,
eye no live in the falklands,
eye see stars after and not before,
relax,
besides, i am an islander, and thats the very truth,
born and bread islander,
just not the island you think ..
I always hear the complains where the chocolate can not be found at FI.
I always hear the complains where the imported fruits are expensive and not fresh at FI
I always hear the complains where all kinds of edible oils cannot be found at FI.
I always hear the lemonades made from Argentine concentrated lemmons are in great request at FI.
I always hear the soaps/detergents imported from Argentina are used at FI.
Bloody hell you hear a lot dont you, the question is from who do you hear it? You also think a litre of milk in Argentina costs ARS $1.52 when it costs ARS $6 so no one should believe a word that leaves your gob.
Our right to self determination is too big a deal to be tied up in a question of do you want this option or that option, what it can do is eliminate what we don't want whilst leaving the result open. 'We don't want Argentine sovereignty' does not neccessarily mean 'we want to be a British Overseas Territory for ever', it just depends on the question asked in the referendum, which brings me to....
@60
Yes I know, but at the moment they seem to be decided on the 'do you want this or that sovereignty' format whilst agonising over how to phrase it so make it sound like it's going to give a meaningful result. I know which way I'm going to go on this, I don't want to have anything to do with Argentina and I certainly don't want them having sovereignty of the Falklands. My concern is that this referendum is supposed to mean something more than ratifying our Britishness and that if it's done like this then that's all it can do. It's supposed to be us for the first time exercising our right to self determination, a foregone 'British Overseas territory for ever' result is not, in my opinion, self determination.
The milk/cheese are abundant/cheap but no youghurt at FI.
In short, what to vote next year is his decision to remain British, good in my opinion this decision does nothing to feed to the world Argentina's position. Since my country claims that UK has a colony here and confirm its status means confirming that they are settlers from a European country. Ok?
For the record, I'm not Peronist vote or to CFK.
Last time you were in FI...........
Would you delineate where /how is their unique grocery shop !
Obviously you never went to FI.
It was impressed upon me by the site manager that I must be vigilant at all times and not wear any jewellery etc. and never look any potential robber in the eye.
Although I was only over there for a short time I never felt at risk and the locals in the town were great.
I now live in Uruguay and could easily make a visit to BsAs, but then I stop to think: why risk a visit to probably the worst shit hole on the planet?
Even my next door neighbour, a very nice Argentinian who rides his BMW GS1200 over from BsAs for his holidays while his family fly over, has warned me about the situation regarding personal safety. He claims most of the criminality goes unreported in the papers as there is just too much and people become accustomed, and therefore hardened, to it.
So I find it very difficult to believe that the large towns of Argentina and BsAs in particular with their shanty towns (just like Nigeria) are worth the potential personal grief of a visit.
Well Chris, you need an after midnight certification. You scared me to death.
Certain to stay away from the place now.
The word Bitish may not even be in it
Ultimate Independence- within the Commonwealth - is the dream of a good number here - but totally unrealistic for many years yet! Arg claim for one problem
That is to join as a member state could set its conditions. They might be some, no Argentine continental can not take up residence in the islands without the consent of its inhabitants. All British born there will always be an option Argentina will in no way an imposition. All natural resources belong always to the islanders and their descendants, shall have jurisdiction only Argentina but never the domain of those resources, etc.
not deligated by the federal goverment.
but is it not true,
just like the united states, that if required or needed or felt in the nations interest,
the federal goverment can and will take and inforce control.
You are a real trier Xavi. I think you should apply for a job in the Foreign Office.
I would be very interested to know if you live in a Province or in CABA, because where I live we depend on the President looking with good “onda” on the current Governor to get our partial share of the tax income.
It would be a disaster if the FI became part of the Argentine. At the moment the FI have a GDP per capita of US$55.400, whilst we have US$17.380.
The Islanders would be crazy to become part of our economic disaster!!!!
That is to join as a member state could set its conditions. They might be some, no Argentine continental can not take up residence in the islands without the consent of its inhabitants. All British born there will always be an option Argentina will in no way an imposition. All natural resources belong always to the islanders and their descendants, shall have jurisdiction only Argentina but never the domain of those resources, etc.
Stop dreaming that is nothing you have not population so x% of nothing = Nothing
@EnginnerAbroad
UK is in Europe and the Islands are in SA still irrelevant.
@ Simon68
Your comparison is irrelevant compare the Islands with Monaco 1,95 km² per capita US$ 180,000. Ha ha
Population matters compare any company with a country GDP and you will see how high they are.
Per capita only shows an idea of productivity not richness.
So one man selling USD 20K per month will have a per capita of USD 240k even if he has not profit a lives like a poor in the process. Ha ha
Now Simon really where are you from?
@Islander1
Good for you but those figures are irrelevant even for a very poor nation.
So my question is.. you claim to be better than the argies but them in 200 years have built a modern nation with a close to 500bn dollar GDP.
So can you tell me what went so wrong with you after all?
Because your performance looks like from the poorest nation in Africa than a country in the western hemisphere.
How do you pretend to become a nation is you lack of the basic that any nation has?
Think about it.
@WestisBest
I see it from sat imaginary nothing there the most lets say relevant thing there is the military base the rest just little houses, few close to none pavement roads, infrastructure, lets say nothing.
In the middle of the jungle in Africa also there is not fast food, crime, slums, pollution, etc.
Have you been to the jungles of Africa Dany?. I have.
Fast food is what you can catch. Settlements have “dwellings” made from any material available, crime is not reported and dealt with by the people there. Justice can be summary. Sewage and God knows what, flows down by the dwellings. Water is often taken from mosquito laden pools. Anyway your analogy is lost in translation.
I would imagine that the average Falklander has a better standard of living than the average Argentinian. By this, I am not saying that there are not many Argentinians who have a higher income but that there are also many Argentinians with a much lower standard of life.
Why do you need a paved road when you can drive a Land Rover ?
I take it from this comment that all roads in Argentina are paved and that the remoter parts of your country have a wonderful infrastructure?
Good one Clyde. :-)
GDP per capita is the only way to compare countries' productivity, because if you try to compare GDP of Argentina with that of UK, for example, you get a nonsense result.
UK GDP (PPP): Total $2,308.503 Billion
ARG GDP (PPP): Total $435.2 Billion
No comparison!!!
Dany is right
GDP/per person doesnt show us people revenues.
For example:
in US; median household income ~ 50 K
their revenue portion is 2-3 trillions $ in GDP.
Is to share 21 miles of the English channel.
Consider “ income distribution ” effects.
A culture defining class by what you're wearing or the night life, THERE'S the problem!
I ADMIRE Argentinans for what they do WELL
But in any time in history, doesn't -excess -superficiality usually mark a government decline?
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Dignity, transparency, heroism, stewardship, depth-that's universal class.
You and Conqueror
Accept the facts: The islanders have the islands for 189 years and the only hotel is The Malvinas Hotel with the wrong name simply does not make sense. Where is the pride of the islanders?
I was expecting to find many hotels with all kinds of food to welcome all kind of turists including visitors from the Island of Japan. Hey, when I was in Tokyo I was impressed by the japanese modernization. Can the Islanders learn to copy from the japanese? Oh, No! OK. The islanders are passe and stay the same! Yaaaaaaaaaaaak!
And did you feel at home? Ha ha
Now serious you cannot compare the 8th bigger country in the world (Argentina 2.8km2) with little Islands or states.
And even though Argentina (92%) is more urbanised than UK (90%) and US (82%) and many others EU countries.
So making infrastructure for a little Island like UK is quite easy but for a large country like US, Canada, Russia, Australia, China, Brazil, etc. is a difficult task.
Now use your brain for once and imagine western Europe with only 40m inhabitants and 92% of these people living in cities. Have you got the picture now?
“I take it from this comment that all roads in Argentina are paved and that the remoter parts of your country have a wonderful infrastructure?”
Not even in US, ASIA, UK or in Europe are all roads paved especially in rural areas. You should know very well that are you not from Scotland?
I recommend you to make a trip for Wells and Scotland and then come back.
www.scotland.gov.uk/Resource/Img/278281/0099437.jpg
www.crofting.org/images/croft-holidays-images.jpg
But the “poorest” rural province in Argentina “Formosa” looks far more civilised than many EU countries (no names here). Ha ha.
mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/photos/medium/8531589.jpg
www.verfotosde.org/argentina/imagenes-de-Formosa-5740.html
www.ciudaddeformosa.gob.ar/modulos/galeria/templates/media/galerias/categoria1/images_anfiteatro/imagenes/anfiteatro1.JPG
www.ciudaddeformosa.gob.ar/modulos/galeria/templates/media/galerias/categoria1/imagenes_ciudad/imagenes/ciudad11.jpg
So in conclusion better to be dominated by argies than Scottish and Englander from the countryside ha ha.
Oh! and don't get offended It is that I couldn't resist to make the joke. ha hihihiii
Sorry to disabuse you - as usual - but Scotland does not have any unpaved public roads. Come and see for yourself. As for Wells, where is this. I have never heard of it.
Your references show a typical stone house built about 1800 in the remoter parts of the Highlands, totally modernised inside and let for holidays. The locals live in modern bungalows with central heating, double glazing etc.
I notice that in your pictures you have shown camino al puerto - a dirt road in your civilized town. I could troll the net for pictures of areas of slums in Argentina but that would prove nothing. Every country has areas of deprivation and decaying infrastructures
Anyway, I have no idea what you are on about and as to taking offence, there is nothing you could say to make me offended.
#95
Sussie, you come across as a self obsessed poseur, only interested in fashion and showing off.
The tourists who visit the Falklands are not coming there for de-luxe hotels, designer shops and fancy restaurants. If that's what they wanted, they would go to London, Paris, Rome or New York Many are coming out of curiosity and others for the wild life. Would you expect to find a Hilton hotel in a remote region of Patagonia. I think not. A comfortable estancia is more than sufficient.
You ask, can the islanders learn from a nation of 110 million and apply the same standards. Of course not - horses for courses. Port Stanley's population could fit into a couple of Tokyo's high rise flats.
As to the name of the Malvina Hotel. It was named after the daughter of the original owner. Malvina was a popular name in Scotland at that time and has nothing to do with the spurious name given to the Falklands by Argentina. I think it shows class to keep a historic name and a sense of maturity from the owners. They just don't care what you think !
The 'pride of the islanders' is evident in the fact that we won't change the historic name of an historic hotel to pander to the ignorant pretensions of our agressive neighbours.
In 50 years time the Malvina House Hotel will still be there, and still called the Malvina, as part of a prosperous and perhaps independent Falkland Islands.
97 DanyBerger
Why don't you engage your brain for once? The Falklands has 3000 people, of whom 90% live in Stanley. About 3% live on rural West Falkland. We're hardly going to blow our entire capital reserves on providing paved roads to 300 people, are we.
Instead we have an air taxi service that will take us wherever we want whenever we want (almost!) How lucky are we?
That gentlemen is the post, and a fact,
All else is pure envy and jealousy .
You have what they want,
Its that simple.
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If Argentina concentrated its efforts on running itself in a more competent manner rather than wasting its time trying to steal the Falklands from the Islanders, they would not need to be jealous as they are now.
Still far underdeveloped compared with “super power Scotland” of Clyde15.
On a surface of 78,387km2 he has all paved even his bedroom. Ha ha
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@Imperialist Haters
Bad news for Britain Mir Khan (British boxer) lost while fighting against Latino Danny Garcia (US).
He last words before landing by a punch from Danny were I have no doubt that I won like the Falkland are British.
Ha ha
I will forgive you Dany because it is obvious that you do not understand the nuances of the English language very well and your comprehension matches this.
Thank you for acknowledging that Scotland is a “super power”. I would be too modest to claim that myself but compared to “Argentina” it is. That puts us miles ahead of you !! Chuckle , chuckle ,ha ha.
Your point about me paving my bedroom is factually incorrect - like most of your postings. I had thought about that; although Caithness granite is extremely hard wearing, it is a bit cold on one's feet and difficult to lay on suspended wooden flooring, so I reluctantly had to settle for Wilton wool carpets for bedrooms and living areas, teak parquet flooring for the dining room and vinyl flooring in the kitchen and bathroom. The granite slabs are used in the garden ,for paths.
Although I think boxing is a stupid “sport”, congrats. to Mr Garcia for winning. I see you are indirectly claiming him as an honorary Argie.
We look forward to seeing the Argentinian team at the Olympics.
I genuinely hope they enjoy the experience and will get the credit for their performances as individuals or teams without jingoistic national fervour raising its ugly head.
I will sign off with your brief salutation, although I think “he he” is more apt. There is a subtle difference which would be picked up by a native speaker of English.
Bye for now
HA Ha
But he came a close 2nd,
But that’s boxing for you,
But hey ,
At least HE went down fighting,
Unlike some we can name,, can we not .chuckle nuckle .
Excellent, came a close second! Ha,ha,ha,
The only thing about DunniBurger aka Mr. Blobby (that is an inside snide) is he is so used to coming second, wait for it: HE THINKS HE'S WINNING!
I mean, be fair, no Argie ever comes anywhere but first, even when they are last!
even when flushing the chain, they jump before they think .
then wonder why they always end up in the sewer , lol.
In the late 1800s Malvina was a common girls name(from Scottish origen as are many folks here). There is a picture of the lady the place is named after left hand side of the entrance!
There was an opinion poll a couple of years ago on the names - and the overwhelming majority of Islanders said - keep it as Malvina.
The Hotel owners have now renewed the hotel sign - complete with a painting of the Islands flag beneath it - that sort of seems to attract less Argentine Tourists around it now for a photo- wonder why!!
Hell we even have a wild fruit called TeaBerry or Malvina berry!!!
I know it is difficult for an Arg supporter - but do try and right something sensible and true for a change.
- Potential BAS Merger With National Oceanography Centre
- White Paper: The Overseas Territories
- Shaking It Up
- Fishing And Shipping News
- Profile Of An Aerial Rat Exterminator
- Shackleton Expedition Support Ship Announced
- Is Bird Island Really Like That?
- Bird Island Diary
- South Georgia Snippets
www.sgisland.gs/index.php/(h)South_Georgia_News_and_Events
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and even for the debris lef behind
which can perhaps include the planted mines
why? islanders got new passports,
now first class,
not the fleeting papers of yore
which they hated and would tell the F.C.O.
to shovel up their ... (a word to rhyme with class)
so now the time's back
to renew acquaintances and friends
to shake hands
us in the continent
and you in the overseas lands
again...
:-)
“After the Lord God Made the Earth he found that he had some small piece of land left. This he placed in the Southern Ocean, next to, but not of the Continent.
He selected a chosen people and bade them to take dominion of this barren land. The people were happy in their simplicity and thanked their God for his bounty. He replied, do not thank me but look who I have given thee as neighbours.
Years passed and voices were heard from Argie Land to the west. A false Prophet arose and promised his people that the lands of the Falklands were rightfully theirs. A great clamour did ensue and the people cried lead us to the promised land . Out of the darkness of the night, the bespoilers came and wrested the land from the chosen people. The people cried full sore ”Why have you forsaken us ? Fear not spake the Lord, an mighty retribution shall be visited upon the ARGIES. And it came to pass that it was so. God's chosen ones came from the sea and sorely chastised the Argies so that they cried. We were led astray by a false prophet and were blameless. The Lord God said go to thine own land and return not. This they did. The false prophet was deposed and a semblance of peace prevailed in their land
Years later, a new voice was heard crying. Believe not the words you have heard before. The land belongs to you. If we take this land then we will have fulfilled our destiny. Our country will become a shining beacon and be admired by all. The people cheered at this. It must be true, surely she is the promised prophet. Her name is Holy embodying Christ and the Church. Let us praise Christina and follow for she can do no wrong. She is exalted amongst men. Great leaders hang on her words of wisdom. Her visage has no wrinkles and her hair is the colour not seen in nature. She must be the Madonna.
The chosen people of the Falklands did say unto this :-
I see the Trolls are on Mercopress again --- Ho Hum.
Here endeth the lesson
to renew acquaintances and friends
to shake hands
Now that they have failed at everything they have tried, from threats to blackmail,
They want to be friends,
We say, would you shake a hand with death written on it.
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go back to the brown trouts and graylings,
that the river fill
or better still,
open a dictionary
for certain words
chastisised would have been better,
because God spells well
all Babel-born languages
just as all those that were originated therefrom
and are still spoken, here and there...
Now dear briton @ 11
'Flog that man, Mr. Christian'
'But, Sir, he's dead'
'Mr. Christian, I said flog that man'
and after this was done
by order of Capt Bligh
we would all have merrily sung,
to the tune of Auld Lang Syne
We're 'ere because we're 'ere,
Because we're because we're 'ere;
We're 'ere because we're 'ere,
Because we're because we're 'ere;
if we'd been aboard the Bounty
and this were'nt a lower-deck song of World War II
I may add then... that you if you knew
who are you chatting with
would know that my hand
as creative as it is
wouldn't dare to have death written on it,
but life!
PS:
I have my friends on the islands
on the islands I have friends
the question of names
has no influence,
it cannot be an issue
between friends!
chastisised ? No such word in the current English Language which is supposed to be mandatory in this forum. Not in the King James version of
the Bible either. Where did you get this one from ?
as you would a dead horse.
For on rode the 600
And dead men tell no tails,
But if a man slaps you in the face,
Why then should you get the blame?
And he aloud to be the victim.
Argentina the victim as always
Picked on by the nasty brits
They want what is not theirs,
Or they take it bit by bit
But to claim the victim,
Whilst attacking the innocent
The Falklands as it was,
Is a disgrace in humanity?
And a victim, argentina never was.
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Yet another good poem. :o)
Keep the islands in your ass! That's what the islanders needs to eat, your shit!
I see you are keeping up your high literary standard.
The first sentence is a physical impossibility - even for you.
Grammatical error in sentence two - should be need -not needs.
Thank you for your contribution to the debate.
brits and argies's exchanging
them as sandwiches in the Park at lunchtime.
That's good, we'd both be learning
if not English, how to rhyme!
Thank you briton
thank you Clyde!
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Thank you for your vote of thanks. Sussie is supposed to be fluent in English so I was just fine tuning her grammar and/or syntax.
I would be the first to admit that my knowledge of Spanish has been gleaned from Speedy Gonzalez cartoons - a credit to the Mexican people.
If I attempted anything more than rudimentary Spanish, I could be shot down in flames.
whose English I would love to hear
albeit perhaps not to me very clear
undoubtedly strange to one's ear,
more used to Irish brogue,
or even stiff upper lip's,
one of my words in 113 you critisised.
But, may I bring your attention to the fact
that from your comment it transpires
you're not very conversant on UK bands
free.band websites is the place
where the word chastisised you'll find
despite King James' approved text
to be read..., but of course
there were no Metal bands then
except headbands, and chastity belts...
Fetch here 'Sanctity Chastisised'
darkjam.com/Rigor_Mortal/info.php
and, friend,
you'll be surprised!
ah! I'm sorry for fingerslip on 118
instead of 'argies's'
'argies are' should be read
Now, English and English Literature,
travellers, history, sail, I love
Spanish being my mother's tongue,
aber Deutches Sprache ich auch kann.
Bye for now!
sadly the femal usaian, still has a lot of growing up to do,
and i wont utterence with a child,
sorry.
Point noted, but I would not take English lessons from a Heavy Metal Band !
When my daughter was in her teens, I was forced to listen to Motorhead, Deep Purple and Whitesnake. I preferred 1930's ragtime and blues played on the guitar. We managed a compromise in ZZTops.
Age 45, she and her husband ( a consultant surgeon) still go to see HM bands. When they told us they needed us to watch the children because they were going to Ramstein, I could not understand why they wanted to visit a USAF base in Germany who were flying F-16s. Well, it is an age thing .
My generation were the first rockers - Elvis, Buddy Holly , Everly Bros. etc. In those days, few people had even heard of the Falklands.
To all other posters, I apologise for going of topic.
bring in money tourism, and world media .
And Clyde15, may I join you in your apologies to all other posters and Mercopress for going off topic, and torturing you with my lousy poems?
No need to appologize, your “lousy” poems are very entertaining, but I support Clyde's taste in music, having been brought up in a household that believed that the only music to listen to was JAZZ!!!
I am from the USA. I am your enemy. I am anti-british like most argentinians.
Accept the fact. Here in the USA most of the americans says “stick it in your ass” ..means I don't care (islands). Is obvious that you don't have americans friends and like Zhivago have difficulties understanding the american english and argentinian spanish.
Also, it takes my attention you don't have any knowledge on the USA law such as the USA Privacy Act which prohibits to release sensitivity
information from my files : this includes my financial information, the 2 telephone calls recorded by the UK team and all other information you team collected from my internet account. BE CAREFUL. BETTER FOR YOU TO SHUT UP.
now grow up and act your age .
You comments on USA immigration and USA privacy acts make you look nothing more than an uneducated briton..I can slap you with a law suit for transpassing my privacy. You old man!
Briton has never mentioned you immigration or privacy laws,
As for you doing a law suit on me,
Try it,
And will have you extradited for insulting language and threats ,
And racist insults,,,,,
No wonder people call you
[chlamydia Jane ]
If you want to play the insult game, young lady,
We would suggest you keep looking in the cracked mirror ,
And wished ya never drop the damm thing.
bla bla bla .
You, the UK team ('agents”) and the islanders started insulting the argentine leader with profane language which is unacceptable.
Conqueror keeps making threats against all argentinians which is unfair. Argentinians are peaceful people and don't need the UK team
continously making unnecessary observations about my country Argentina, the argentine leader and argentine citizens.
I have the right to use offensive language in retaliation for insulting the argentinian leader, like it or not.
There is not such law in the USA for deporting a person that have used profane language. Profane words is my rights of freedom of speech.
Anyone have the choice to ignore my comments, so do it.
You hate everyone and everything,
Why do you live there?
You do nothing but deride them, insult them, and abuse there kindness,
America has given you everything, and this is how you repay them, by hating everything American.
If you hate America that much, go somewhere else to live .
And stop humiliating your self.
Oh! Poor briton I would like to see him become the lady of some crazy Latino in a US jail.
Do you want 2 kgs of baseline if you are deported to US?
It is the less we can do for you after all we learned to appreciate you. or may be not??
Well I’m confused now. Let’s see after the extradition stuff.
Oh poor Danny boy,
Your just jealous that SussieUS aint stalking you,
No doubt you would enjoy being stalked by a nymphomaniac .
lol
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I imagine, I hope...
Whenever CFK grabs headlines with her anti-Falkland Islands diatribes, the Falkland Islands tourism will reap benefits because the high-income tourists who tend to be voracious news readers and love actually getting to places in world headlines are a great market for the Falklands-South Georgia-Antarctica cruise ship circuit and will want to return to the Falklands on their own to spend more time in Stanley and in camp areas.
Don't change the conversation Miss Isolde.
I never said I “hate” the USA.
The USA and Argentina are my countries, believe it or not.
I hate the UK people and the UK team (“agents”) do not worth a shit . They are uneducated and their english don't impress me at all.
You all have not knowledge of the USA Privacy Act which don't permit confidential information be release to these viewers.
I am not a nymphomanic.
I am an arrogant person, a racist and atheist.
No, they won't. The islands are a Nature's incredible reserve, lovingly cared for, and whatever the widow may say (does anyone overseas read her at all?), the South Atlantic environment has its own attractions.
Cheers!
No monies to build high class apartments buildings found in my Comodoro Rivadavia.Hahaha.
No monies, No class, Keep the islands in your ass.
If you think class is the same as money, you don't understand class.
If CFK actions prompts more headlines against Falklands from actions in London or Buenos Aires, the tourists won't be going to London or BA in response, but will be more receptive to going to Falklands if only because its in headlines and seems like an important place because of that.
In effect, almost any news about the Falklands is free advertising that helps “break through” some of the morass of daily media flow bombarding higher-economic status market segment.
Agree that single biggest draw to Falklands is nature-related tourism, and the high-economic status market segment will be drawn to that, including huge high-status segment readership of Audubon, Sierra Magazine (US), and Wildlife (Britain), etc
However, the segment of those attracted to the Falklands might include quite a few who may wish to see some nature, but will also want to mix it with some time in Stanley - walking to nearby penguins and beaches, going to pubs, visiting churches, museum, etc. In a way, like Penguin News editor Lisa Watson quipped about the Zylberberg Olympics video, it could have been made by Falklands Tourism Commission.
So assuming that CFK's diatribes are going to fade, what could be a good marketing strategy that would build on the nature-related focus of Falklands? I like this:
“Where else can you enjoy a full English breakfast while penguins stroll past?”
www.discoverwildlife.com/advertisement-feature/falkland-islands-wildlife-holidays
You stalk the brits, because you can’t have Danny boy,
Who obviously likes you,
Ya can’t find a decent guy,
So you spend your time stalking the guys on here,
And spreading your vile insults,
We just feel a slight sympathy for a stalker without a future.
Insult away , stalk away and stay away.
.desperation of what .
I am not a nymphomaniac.
I am arrogant, a racist and atheist.
You don't need to keep insulting me anymore. So, keep your mouth SHUT.
The problem with the Islanders is they have no money, no class and no grass.
Just big mouth.
Ha ha
I see you too have a firm grasp on the concept of class. I bet you loved it when the Grand Army of the Incontinent landed and shat everywhere.
I've never been to the South Atlantic disputed arcipelago, but lived (studying, sitting for exams, working at a London insurance brokers') in England long enough to understand how the Brits click and, in my view, they click as most people should. I've been a member of the Royal Society for Middle English, I am one in the Conservative Party since 1969, and a devoted fan of Falklands Conservation. How come? ADN perhaps. I'm a seaman. My Basque ancestors shared for centuries, the fishermen's fortunes and misfortunes of the English Channel and the Kantauriko Txokoa with the English. Seamen are, as you might be aware of, a 'class' in themselves, no matter their birth, nationality or mother tongue. They help each other in times of distress, ever at the risk of their own lives. That's me. That's why I act and write as I do.
143 briton, would you stop burning your fingers by treading windward on impossible sagas?
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no, keep you mouth shut,
and stop stalking me, are you desperate, or hard up,
stop replying, you perve,
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143 briton, would you stop burning your fingers by treading windward on impossible sagas
explain .
You are trying to compare apples with oranges. I looked up Commodoro Rivadavia. I would have to admit it looks a lovely city. That is the point - it IS a city. Population 186,000 - Stanley's Population is 3000 and a very small town. There is a population difference of 60 times .
You would have to compare it with a comparable town of the same size in Argentina.
Co. Riv. supports a large percentage of the Argentinian population as a holiday resort with easy access from the main population centres..
Stanley can only host tourists who arrive in ships or aircraft thanks to the restrictions from your government. The infrastructure could not cater for a huge increase in numbers at present. If there were huge extensions in the way of building, then it would lose the very charm that tourists want to experience. They do not go there for sophistication , but to enjoy the wildlife in a safe environment.
Lets make another comparison and compare Sydney with Co.Riv.
The population difference is about 25 times greater than Co. Riv.
Your beloved city is a minnow in the scale of world tourism compared with Sydney, which has infinitely more world class cultural activities, restaurants high rise apartments and luxury hotels. It makes your city look provincial and out in the sticks.
So by your analogy, your city has no money and is 3d class class !
Just another aside, Sydney was founded by the British and they all speak English.
Let the Argentine/American witch
boil in her own hatred broth...
full of sour spumes and froth.
Save your mandrake and ellebor
for better endeavours,
kick away the (word meaning female dog)!
www.facebook.com/Britain1592
Let the Argentine/American witch
boil in her own hatred broth...
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I would like nothing better,
We have tried to be polite,
We have tries to ignore her,
But she still insults and abuses,
We are much better than that
And will try to ignore her,
Lets hope she goes away,
And turns into an evil bat.
Thank
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I repeat. No other web site permits personal offensive attacks.
You can file a complaint with Mercopress and tell them you really feel “touchy” by SussieUS.
No one scare this female argentinian.
No UK men, no USA men, no Argentine men!
Hahahaha
over to you .
Road map in Buenos Aires only a place having more than 300.000 inhabitants is consider a city.
In the provinces just 100k is fine.
3000 is just a neighbourhood.
You should compare Sydney with Buenos Aires. Result Sydney just a town...
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