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Red Cross to again address London over the Falklands Argentine unnamed graves

Wednesday, July 25th 2012 - 20:54 UTC
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The International Red Cross pledged it will again contact British authorities with Argentina’s request for special forensic groups to travel to the Falklands to identify combatants buried in Islands’ unnamed graves. Read full article

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  • Conqueror

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    Jul 25th, 2012 - 09:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pirat-Hunter

    Drums roll! Trumpet! Cnock Cnock!

    Jul 25th, 2012 - 09:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    I'm sure argies can figure how high they'll bounce. No more argie scum on British Islands. Dead or alive!

    Jul 25th, 2012 - 09:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Britworker

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    Jul 25th, 2012 - 09:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • scarfo

    However the request to send forensic teams for the identification of Argentine soldiers buried in the Falklands is not necessarily unanimous among the next of kin. Some support it enthusiastically while others prefer to keep things as they are and not remove the pain thirty years on.

    Cfk dosent give a shit whos graves she dances on, if she thinks she can get a point over the british reguarding the Falklands!

    Jul 25th, 2012 - 09:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • HansNiesund

    Now that's funny. No international forum is complete without the Argentines pleading for direct dialogue with the UK, while CFK herself does not shrink from personally accosting DC with an envelope full of old UN resolutions.

    Yet here on this emotional issue she and Timerman are apparently so overcome with shyness they need the Red Cross to act as their intermediary.

    I'm touched. And surely only a churlish cynic could conclude that the Red Cross and the dead are being used in a cheap attempt to portray Argentina as the poor victim of the heartless Brits.

    Jul 25th, 2012 - 09:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LEPRecon

    It's pointless addressing the letter to London, they will have to address it to the Falkland Islands Government, whose responibility it is as the bodies are interred on their land. The British Government should make this very clear to the International Committee of the Red Cross.

    I'm all for an independent ICRC team removing the remains of these Argentine soldiers, identifying them, and then returning the remains to their relatives.

    That should be the only acceptable outcome. I wonder what CFK would say to that?

    Jul 25th, 2012 - 09:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Islander1

    7- your are quite correct! That is why they are in limbo over their speeches about flights and fisheries- UK has referred it to FIG - who wrote to their Ambassador in London saying basically that yes the FI Govt was prepared to sit and talk about Fisheries anc Communications in general - with the UK at the table head and acting as Chair.- but ARG and FIG talking to and negotiating with each other across it.
    That has sort of buggered them! If they say yes - then that means they recognise we exist - and thus all sorts of things start to follow internationally.
    If they say NO - and ever raise the issue of nobody prepared to talk again - then UK will shoot them down in flames!

    Jul 25th, 2012 - 09:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    its just another exuse, to pile on the pressure.

    Jul 25th, 2012 - 10:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pirat-Hunter

    Argentina should open fishing season in Antartica Argentina and give the rest of the world licenses to fish. No more protectionism for british resources, let's start a fish grab fest.

    Jul 25th, 2012 - 10:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    their is no
    Antartica Argentina

    Jul 25th, 2012 - 10:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pirat-Hunter

    #11 Cool that means we will fish in the south of Argentina under the watchful eyes of nobody.

    Jul 25th, 2012 - 11:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #10
    So that we are all clear what you are talking about.
    Please give us your claim to territories and seas , with delineations in Latitude and Longitude

    Jul 25th, 2012 - 11:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Steveu

    I would suggest that it would be better for the next of kin who wish to repatriate their dead relatives bodies to deal with the Red Cross directly who will, in turn, contact the FIG to deal with their request in a no fuss/ dignified manner

    I just see this as another opportunity for a crass stunt by CFK - the woman clearly has no shame on past record and if she really cares about the war dead then I can't see what is wrong with my suggestion.

    Jul 25th, 2012 - 11:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • WestisBest

    LOL @10

    Go ahead and try, see what'll happen.

    ARG: We'll grant you licences to fish in Antarctic waters!
    ROW: Oh, has the Antarctic treaty expired?
    ARG: Er...no, but we say you can fish there!
    ROW: Riiight... and which part of Antarctic waters are yours to grant fishing rights in?
    ARG: There!
    ROW: Er...that appears to include British and Chilean Antarctic territories.
    ARG: That doesn't matter! Antartica Arrrrgentina!
    ROW: Well let's see...the Antarctic treaty is still in force so by attempting to grant fishing rights you've reneged on the agreement thereby voiding any participation by yourselves on what goes on in Antarctica.
    ARG: Er......is no fair! (sniff)
    ROW: too bad, that's how the world works......oh no...stop crying please, God this is so embarrassing....
    ARG: Waaaaaaa!!

    :o)

    Jul 25th, 2012 - 11:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    Would it not be better, for the International Red Cross,
    To send in special forensic groups to travel to the Argentine mainland ,to identify
    The untold thousands of innocent murdered people,
    Buried in unnamed graves there .

    .

    Jul 25th, 2012 - 11:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • HansNiesund

    @16

    Pirat-Hunter will sell them a licence to fish for corpses in the River Plate Estuary.

    Jul 25th, 2012 - 11:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • British_Kirchnerist

    #5 Why do some support it enthusiasticly, and why should they're views (the majority view I imagine) matter less - would it be “dancing on they're graves” for her not to try and identify they're loved ones?

    Jul 25th, 2012 - 11:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    You miss the point of the exercise,

    But as you know her, better than the rest of us,
    Perhaps you would like to divulge to us , WHY, CFK want this,,

    And why does she not just contact the Falklanders and ask them,

    Its called communication.

    Jul 25th, 2012 - 11:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • aussie sunshine

    @1 I can see you are not a soldier. A soldier would NEVER treat the dead body of its enemy in any bad way. We respect each other in battle and in death.

    Jul 25th, 2012 - 11:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Frank

    @20 Is that a fact now , little RG sunshine......

    So why does KFC keep using the RG dead as pawns in her grubby little game?

    Jul 26th, 2012 - 12:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • KFC de Pollo

    yawn... they forwarded this to the islanders. they said yes lets talk. argy refuse to talk...

    Jul 26th, 2012 - 01:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Lord Ton

    http://falklandsnews.wordpress.com/2012/07/26/argentina-complains-of-provocation/

    :-)

    Jul 26th, 2012 - 01:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Truth_Telling_Troll

    So if there is a problem with British nationals in Futaleufu department, Chubut province , who do the British call to negotiate with: Futaleufu City Hall @ Esquel, or do they call Buenos Aires CF?

    I'm sure they call Buenos Aires. Now how would London react if the federal government told them “don't call us, call Futaleufu City Hall and discuss the matter with them”?

    Jul 26th, 2012 - 01:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • redpoll

    @20 My views exactly. Thank you Thats why there is a German war cemetery in Staffordshire

    Jul 26th, 2012 - 01:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JPhillips

    @24 They'd call the city hall as advised.
    Also, your reductio argument is hardly relevant as FIG aren't a “federal” part of the UK. They manage their own affairs, to a far greater level than a city hall or even an Argentine province.

    Jul 26th, 2012 - 05:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Doveoverdover

    @24 The British Embassy would mobilise the third secretary to pay a visit, gather information and liaise with the local Honorary Consul on the situation. No British Honorary Consul in Chubut? I think I know just the person to fill this prestigious appointment.....

    Jul 26th, 2012 - 06:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • War Monkey

    @13 Clyde15 (#)
    Jul 25th, 2012 - 11:00 pm

    What would be the point. Argentine claims change with the wind.

    Jul 26th, 2012 - 06:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • St.John

    Return to Sender; Address Unknown

    ”In fact the British Government did respond at the time [early April 2012], saying that it would forward the request on to the Falkland Islands’ Government (FIG) to whom it should have been addressed in the first place. Since then the FIG has written to the Argentine Embassy in London to say that it is prepared to sit down and discuss a range of issues; a response that appears to have been ignored.”

    http://falklandsnews.wordpress.com/2012/07/26/return-to-sender-address-unknown/

    Jul 26th, 2012 - 07:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GALlamosa

    Another Argentine/CFK political stunt that ignores the wishes of those who matter - the next of kin. Heartless and undemocratic, promoting her own image at the expense of relatives feelings. Dreadful woman.

    Jul 26th, 2012 - 07:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • War Monkey

    Well we know that Windows is not compatible with Linux or OSX, Malvinista diplomacy is not compatible with internationally accepted norms and notions of decency. Until they start to address the right people and show a little common courtesy and respect........ F**k 'em. Toddler diplomacy has no place in the grown up world.

    Jul 26th, 2012 - 07:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Room101

    Deaths of soldiers should not be a subject for levity or insult, no matter from what country they come from.

    Jul 26th, 2012 - 08:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Idlehands

    So did the UK not respond in June or did they advise the Argentines/Red Cross to contact the FIG about it?

    Jul 26th, 2012 - 08:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Boovis

    They did, but the false misguided pride of the Arg government is more important than the legacy of the war dead or the feelings of the bereaved families. To contact the FIG would be to acknowledge their authority, and that's not going to happen.

    Jul 26th, 2012 - 09:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Idlehands

    So they are lying then? Quelle surprise!

    Jul 26th, 2012 - 10:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @18 Perhaps if you'd given the poor sods dog tags!
    @20 Of course I'm not a soldier. I'm 63. Don't know what argieland sent over in '82 but it's unlikely they were “soldiers”. Except possibly in the heat of battle, proper soldiers don't lock unarmed civilians, including children, in buildings for days without food or water. Proper soldiers don't crap in people's bathtubs, beds and over their furniture. Proper soldiers don't site artillery weapons between people's homes. Proper soldiers don't paint red crosses on everything for “protection”. Those are the actions of bully boys, animals and cowards.
    @24 “Futaleufu”? You have to be kidding. There can't be any such place. Nobody would be dumb enough to give anywhere such a stupid name. Surely it's “Futile of you”? A very appropriate argie name. And surely there can't be any “real” Brits living in the wilderness?
    @25 But then most Germans were an “honest” enemy. Not the nazis of course. Where did the nazis run to? Oh yes, I remember.
    @30 How many “real” next of kin are there likely to be after 30 years?
    @32 Just as a matter of interest, who has any idea how long a corpse would last in the soil of the Falkland Islands? Would there be anything left?

    Jul 26th, 2012 - 10:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Ted

    To “Conqueror”
    Your comments are about as Low Browed as you can get, you obviously are a medical case, but I reserve my pity for those poor people who live downwind of you.

    Jul 26th, 2012 - 10:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • St.John

    @ 33 Idlehands

    “So did the UK not respond in June or did they advise the Argentines/Red Cross to contact the FIG about it?”

    Answer w/ link in # 29.

    Jul 26th, 2012 - 11:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • TreborDoyle

    ''On that day at an official ceremony the Argentine president said she had addressed a letter to the Red Cross president asking him to intermediate before British authorities so that the unnamed graves in ***Malvinas*** (since 1982) could be identified.''

    There is no response from the United Kingdom as it does not recognise something called 'Malvinas' and before long may not recognise something called Argentina either!

    Jul 26th, 2012 - 11:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • BritishLion

    Once again, its a cruel ploy to keep the Falklands on their political agenda. There are no holds barred when it comes to this, like the repeat complaint that missile testing is a threat to Argentina and other South American countries. What they fail to say, to pull the wool over their poor deluded citizens eyes, are that these tests (normal routine tests held every year) are for short range air defence missiles that could not fly much further than five miles...hardly a threat to anyone hundreds of miles away. Again, its all a ploy and propaganda to keep the islands in the news and any attention away from more disturbing domestic troubles that they wish their folk to take less notice of.

    Jul 26th, 2012 - 11:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • honoria

    This is a heartless and despicable political stunt, orchestrated at the expense of the bereaved. The boys lying at Darwin are entitled to the respect due to the fallen soldier and should be left in peace unless their families decide otherwise. This should include families, of which there are many, who have adopted the grave of an unknown soldier. The Red Cross are well advised not to become caught up in Kristina's grubby scheming.

    Jul 26th, 2012 - 11:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • WestisBest

    Doesn't really matter that honoria because nothing will happen to those grave without the say so of the Falkland Islands Government, and old plastic face won't enter into dialogue with the FIG on any issue at all.
    All this does is make the Argentine Government look stupid (which does seem to be what they like to do mind).

    Jul 26th, 2012 - 12:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Boovis

    “All this does is make the Argentine Government look stupid”

    Nah, they have plastic surgeons for that.

    Jul 26th, 2012 - 12:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Iron Man

    If I was the Red Cross I would be furious at being 'played' in this way by Argentina. Never mind, pretty soon Argentina will have exhausted every international body (except the ICJ, of course) and will have to go back to mumbling in the corner.

    Jul 26th, 2012 - 01:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Alexei

    Utterly disgusting. That sick **** CFK is using those corpses in her ongoing campaign of harassment of the Falkland Islanders. If not for the feelings of the remaining relatives of the dead invaders, I'd dig them all up and send them back to where they came from. We'd save the RG “special forensic groups” the trip. They could desecrate and molest the corpses as much as they like back home in Argentina. You can bet if the FIG granted the vile witch CFK the authority to carry out this stunt; she'd make it a macabre theatrical spectacle, complete with TV crews and musical backing. Words fail me. Absolutely f***ing disgusting.

    Jul 26th, 2012 - 02:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • atk357

    I think the FIG should lead by example and tell Argentina the war graves are out of reach, they must be respected...end of story. I agree with @45...using the corpses for propaganda purposes and harassment....that's sickening!!

    Jul 26th, 2012 - 02:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GALlamosa

    #36 There are still a lot of next of kin, and indeed a lot of ex-combatants who have been abused and neglected by the CFK administration. This is a cruel and disgraceful political stunt with no regard for them, and no regard for common humanity

    Jul 26th, 2012 - 03:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • redpoll

    @41 Argentina does not comply with the ICJ judgements unless it suits her

    Jul 26th, 2012 - 03:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Truth_Telling_Troll

    @48

    How is it different from the UK? The UK only follows the international rules when they want to, otherwise they enter coalitions of the willing or such other illegal and criminal contraptual arrangements.

    Jul 26th, 2012 - 03:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • HansNiesund

    @49

    @49
    The coalition of the willing, whatever you may think of it, was legal under international law, and supported by those UN resolutions you guys are so fond of.

    Try naming a case of the UK violating international rules that stands up to examination.

    Jul 26th, 2012 - 04:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Truth_Telling_Troll

    Easy, the rebels in Syria... or do you think those formerly unarmed civilians got heavy weaponry overnight?

    Clear sign the American, French, UK, etc have been supplying them arms along with the Gulf states.

    Just because you do it under subterfuge does not mean it is any less criminal. The UK is a criminal gov, end of story.

    Jul 26th, 2012 - 05:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • HansNiesund

    @51

    What's your evidence that these formerly unarmed cvilians have got any heavy weaponry at all? I haven't seen them with tanks, helicopters, or artillery myself.

    And what's your evidence that they got these weapons they apparently don't have from the UK? And why would it be wrong if they did?

    Jul 26th, 2012 - 05:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    There's that nasty smell in the air again!!! The smell of politicing with the remains of the dead! is there no respect anymore? Is there no line that will not be crossed?
    As an ex serviceman, I would dearly love these men to be identified, to be given back their names, they fought for their country, they at least deserve that. Not for their next of kin but for them, anyone stop for a single moment and think what they might have wanted.
    DNA these guys, send the Data to the people who have abandonned them and leave it up to them, if they had a single ounce decency, they would do the right thing. Though some how I doubt it, because they would be throwing away a political pawn!!!!

    Jul 26th, 2012 - 05:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • SussieUS

    Comment removed by the editor.

    Jul 26th, 2012 - 06:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conor

    @54
    What are you implying bitch?

    Jul 26th, 2012 - 06:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    I still think we are all still missing the point. The point being, what would these men want, I defy anyone to suggest they would not want their names back!!

    The Falkland Islanders respect and tend thesee graves, I think they, their government, if they chose to, should DNA them, it can be done, there are numerous reputable Archeological Agencies who could do the job properly.

    The data would then be there, with which ever agency conducted the test, for any relative, of an unknown, to provide a comparrison sample for identification.

    I really find it sick, that in this day and age,with the technology we have, we deny a basic right to these men. The right to be a person, to be given back the most fundamental of all rights, an identity.

    Sod KFC and her sick politics, do it because, in the end we all know, it is the right to do. Put an end to her to the abuse of these mens memory.

    If the families then choose to let them rest there, then so be it.

    Jul 26th, 2012 - 06:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    This is a ploy by CFK to get publicity for her failed cause, but once it is over, it's over.
    The Red Cross should approach the FIG, as they know money has been raised in the Falklands for their cause and I believe their First Aid courses have been run there.
    Very interestingly there are some Argentine families who want their relations bodies repatriated, so this could be sorted out.
    However if the Argentine and Red Cross authorities refuse to talk to FIG, it would be time again for the MLA's to do something to earn their wages, get on the TV and expose the Argentine government's real reason for this which is to bitch about their false claims to sovereignity, again.
    It wasexcellent that the FIG asserted their case at the UN24 and at every opportunity they should exercise the increasing control of their foreign policy that HMG is allowing them, as evidenced at the UN24 this year.

    Also if the FIG has offered to talk to the Red Cross, why has this not been publicised, that they have?

    Jul 26th, 2012 - 07:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Musky

    ”57 PB
    You're right it must be in part a ploy on to which CFK has sunk her fangs in to. No doubt there are poor mothers wanting to know if their sons truly did meet their ends in far off lands and no doubt time is not on their side. However there are other parents that have had a world of pain and don't wish to re-live it, mercopress has already reported these 2 factions. It would not have arisen had argentina not invaded and then refused to take back the bodies. The fault lies with argentina and the delay in response is british due diligence.

    Jul 26th, 2012 - 08:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    55 Conor

    We have sent her to Coventry,
    Just ignore .
    .

    Jul 26th, 2012 - 09:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • shb

    @Truth telling troll

    What a plank. Syria is a country that operates conscription and is awash in small arms. Most of the stuff the rebels operate is either what they already own or have captured from the army, and lots of them have the training to use it....

    The heaviest thing I have seen them use was a captured T55 tank in Aleppo- the Syrian army has hundreds of them. Few weapons from the gulf states who oppose Asad seem to have arrived yet.

    As to the identification of dead Argentine soldiers - this is a matter for the Argentines to discuss with the proper authorities in London and Port Stanley. I don't know if Argentina has an equivalent of our war-graves commision - they are the people who should be handling this issue.

    I can understand the point of view of those families who want to know where their loved ones are buried.

    We stand to lose nothing in letting the Argentinians re-opening the wounds of the past - it may make them reflect on the futulity and waste of their war of aggression 1982 and make them less likely to support a second attack.

    It strengthens our hand - we appear to be the better people, magnaminous and compasionate in victory.

    I am in favour of it as long as CFK does not politicise it.

    Jul 26th, 2012 - 10:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Islander1

    Think some on here would do to remeber WHY so many or these graves sadly have no name.
    The British forces after each battle- ASKED- the Arg Officers to help them indentify their own dead and put names to them(as they wore no I.D,discs).
    Mostly the Arg Officers REFUSED to do so.

    Today these poor lads rest in peace - and every grave has been adopted by a grieving Argentine family.

    Jul 26th, 2012 - 10:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • toooldtodieyoung

    55 Conor

    You'll have to excuse SussieUS. she was on day release from the “secure unit” but day she just didn't come back. We are hoping that we can hunt her down and sterilise her before she procreates. We don't want that kind of madness in the gene pool, imagine what that could lead to!!

    Jul 26th, 2012 - 11:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • redpoll

    @ 61 I agree entirely. Lets not forget that the Argentine cemetery was put in place out of respect for the fallen by the Brits. Today the curator is stretched to repaint the crosses which he does out of his own pocket. Lots of those young conscript lads from the tropics didnt even know they were in the Falklands and were cannon fodder for their countries mistaken ideas,badly lead from behind by their arrogant officers who treated them like dirt. May they rest in peace

    Jul 27th, 2012 - 12:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Truth_Telling_Troll

    This is getting better by the minute!!

    http://www.abc4.com/mostpopular/story/British-PM-calls-Utah-Middle-of-Nowhere-following/nf6_Ox3XakmXl_VrORKzUw.cspx

    “On Wednesday, Romney told NBC that it was unclear whether the issues that have plagued the final preparations for the London Games could be overcome. Romney said London’s Olympic preparations were ”disconcerting“ and also stated, ”Seems like a struggel, it’s hard to know just how well it will turn out...“

    ”...Cameron later suggested that Romney had a much easier time overseeing the 2002 Olympics in Salt Lake City because they took place in “the middle of nowhere...”

    So much for anglo-saxons and their sense of diplomacy... hahahahahahahahaha, this is great stuff. Didn't know anglos were good at soap operas too.

    Jul 27th, 2012 - 01:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Frank

    @64.... try and stay on topic you dropkick....

    Jul 27th, 2012 - 06:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • shb

    I thought you did'nt care about the olympics TTT......

    I detect jealousy..........

    It's a good job that they are'nt being staged in BA isn't it, the Olympic torch would be the only light source, due to the power cuts.......

    Jul 27th, 2012 - 08:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    He is rather anti brit,
    We never tire of reminding you silly guys of this,

    And the next president, spent the whole day saying sorry,
    As for salt lake city, in the desert,
    A remark understood by us, and totally flunked by you,
    Las Vegas suffers the same remark, a city in the desert.
    Get it, ttt

    Jul 27th, 2012 - 11:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Truth_Telling_Troll

    Sorry, I put that response in the wrong article. They both had the same number of answers at the time so I must have confused them.

    Not that the main point is nontheless true.

    @66

    That's why we don't pretend to have the means to organize an Olympic Games. We can't, but better yet, we are smart enough not to.

    Jul 27th, 2012 - 04:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Simon68

    68 Truth_Telling_Troll

    It just goes to show that your “stupendous” intellect is beginning to fail you. On top of that you're lying, there was no thread that had the same number of comments as this one!!!!

    Jul 27th, 2012 - 05:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Truth_Telling_Troll

    Yes my dear Simon they did... the article about CFK not attending the opening ceremonies had the same number of answers (63) last night as this thread, and by the way that Olympics article is IMMEDIATELY BELOW THIS ARTICLE in the sequence of news under the “Argentina” section, which makes it totally plausible for me to have pressed the wrong one, especially if they both had the same number of answers.

    Go and count the response times for reply number 63 in each and confirm it yourself:“12:37 am” here by redpoll, and then my repliy 64 came at 1:10am.

    Look at the other article then: “10:42pm” by Conor was reply 63... reply 64 came at 2:49am by Zhivago.

    Which confirms both articles had 63 replies after 12:37am last night. And as I said both articles are next to each other in the Argentina section.

    I should be a detective huh?

    So not only I do have stupendous intellect, you owe me an apology for calling me a liar.

    Jul 27th, 2012 - 05:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • SussieUS

    @ 59 briton
    Hey, didn't you release you name, home address and phone number to attract males? That's what you get big gay:
    G.Briton, 112 Tintagel Castle, Cornwall UK, Post Code PL 34 OHE, Tel. White Hall 1212.
    Salute!

    Jul 27th, 2012 - 05:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • WestisBest

    @71

    Yeah that's mature. Tell me Sussie, when you go through a door do you have to open them or can you just crawl underneath?

    Jul 27th, 2012 - 07:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • A.J.Rimmer

    @51. comon then you sack of Sh1t, where is you proof? Yet again you provide nothing but hearsay, innuendos, and false accusations. You, yet again have proven yourself to be a fascist of the highest order.

    You have no morals, no soul, no nothing. You are infact a sad pathetic individual who prays on others misfortune as if it was a badge of honour.

    I have witnessed your posts here many times Tobias, very Racist, very homophobic, and very in-humane.

    You say that you are educated? lol, sry, but i have to disagree profoundly.

    From what i can see, you are only here to promote hostilities, and possibly to recruit other half-wits like Sussie here, to join your cause (although i think your scraping the bottom of the barrel with that one).

    You are so blinded by your hatred of the UK (from what i don't know) that you can not see any reason at all.

    I really do Pity you Tobias, you are not intelligent, it is plain and simple to us all here, you have no life, no loved ones, no nothing........... Shame really.

    p.s. I am not British, but i am European

    Jul 27th, 2012 - 09:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    [ 71]

    coventry

    Jul 28th, 2012 - 12:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • shb

    @74 I agree.

    @ 71 COVENTRY

    Jul 28th, 2012 - 12:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Eddieposted

    At the end of the Falklands War, the argentine government refused to allow any relatives to repatriate the bodies of their loved ones despite many requests to do so. This was for cynical and despicable political reasons to keep an emotional argentine toehold in the Falklands.
    Now is the ideal time to ask the Red Cross to intervene and arrange for all bodies to be returned to argentina enabling better access by relatives and for argentina to investigate unidentified bodies.

    Jul 28th, 2012 - 08:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LEPRecon

    @76 -Eddieposted

    I agree.

    The international Red Cross should exhume the bodies, take their forensic tests, then place the remains in a numbered coffin covered with the Argentine flag, and return them to Argentina, where the Argentines can rebury them with full military honours. Each grave will be marked with the number on the coffin, which will be connected to the forensic tests done by the ICRC.

    Any Argentine family that wants to know if it is their relative in one of the graves, only needs to submit a DNA sample for comparison. Once a match is made, the grave can then be properly marked.

    This would be the ideal time to remove the bodies back to Argentina, as they would be disinterred for the forensic tests anyway, and it's way past time that these young men were returned home.

    For too long the Argentine government has used the presence of Argentine fallen in the Falklands as some sort of 'proof' that they own the Islands, and this disrespectful use of the dead should be ended once and for all by returning all Argentine soldiers home to Argentina.

    I know that this may be against the wishes of many of the families of the fallen, who take comfort in the fact that their sons graves are far better respected and attended than they would be if they were in Argentina, but until the Argentine government learns to have respect for the dead, whether they be Argentine, British or of any other nation, then this would be the best solution.

    Jul 28th, 2012 - 09:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    . 43 Truth_Telling_Troll

    Btw, we did notice the 'snub' of Argentina at the opening ceremony

    [explain]
    Eye did not notice anything wrong .
    .

    Jul 28th, 2012 - 10:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Joe Bloggs

    71 SussieUS, 72 WestisBest

    Tell us also Sussie. When you go through doors does anyone even open them for you or do you find that mostly they get let go in your face?

    Jul 29th, 2012 - 06:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #51
    A bit late in the day, but Turkey has admitted to supplying weapons to the Syrian Freedom Fighters - we don't deal in Kalashnikovs. The heavy weaponry is being supplied by Syrian Army defectors, but it is a pitiful amount.
    It is nice to see that you support a dictatorial regime which is hell bent in slaughtering its civilian population.
    I wonder why the Falkland Islanders are suspicious of the Argentine ?

    Jul 29th, 2012 - 08:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @65 Frank,
    He's rather past the Dropkick classification, l think.
    Theres half-wits,
    There's nit-wits,
    There's f***wits,
    Then there is TTT.
    ln a class sll of his own.
    Sad.

    Jul 30th, 2012 - 10:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0

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