Argentina plans to explore for oil and gas next to the Falklands
As part of its “Malvinas noose tightening” policy the Argentine government is planning an international tender to offer licenses to explore for oil near the Falkland Islands, reports Buenos Aires main daily Clarin in its Monday edition, citing a letter to Congress by Cabinet chief Juan Manuel Abal Median.
Apparently the international bidding process will be carried out by Enarsa, Argentina’s state owned energy company and will be based on a seismic and geological report contracted by Enarsa with GC Technology Corporation under a plan called “Argentine Span”.
Accordingly the program is oriented to obtaining improved geo-physics data and an integral offshore geology profile and included the purchase of 2D seismic data covering an area of 11.000 square kilometres of the Argentine continental shelf. The whole operation had a cost of 42 million dollars says Clarin, but all the “information is registered to Enarsa”.
The message from Abal Medina to Congress indicates that the overall study will enable a more exact description and assessment of the involved basins in the platform helping to determine “prospective zones” for the accumulation of gas and oil resources.
Clarin says that although all the data is under a commercial confidentiality veil, “it is expected the Argentine government will be tendering 24 prospective areas”.
However following the seizure of a majority in YPF from Spain’s Repsol the Argentine government “is waiting for a better political moment for the national and international bidding process which undoubtedly will have an impact on the tense relation with Great Britain” over the disputed Falklands/Malvinas and surrounding waters.
Clarin then adds that since Brazil discovered huge reserves of oil and gas off Sao Paulo state and further south, “Brasilia changed its diplomatic strategy towards the South Atlantic”. In effect if the estimated reserves turn into proven, Brazil is expected to become an oil producer to the tune of Venezuela and Nigeria, according to Petrobras, and since the ramifications of those resources could extend along the Argentine continental platform, “Brazilian diplomacy does not want a foreign colonial power such as Great Britain exploiting a vital resource for the region”.
Clarin speculates that if oil is found in the waters located beyond the control of the UK, Argentina will have a real geopolitical tool used in a hypothetical negotiation with Great Britain.
An interesting side story of the announcement is that the person who currently heads Enarsa is Exequiel Espinosa who back in 2007 was on board the private jet that flew to Argentina from Venezuela with Venezuelan-US national Antonini Wilson who was caught with a suitcase containing 800.000 US dollars. Fearing for his life Antonini Wilson, who later proved to be a carrier of cash and messages between Venezuela’s Hugo Chavez and the Kirchner couple and some programs in Uruguay, fearing for his life took refuge in the US with his family where he apparently exchanged information for safety.
The money allegedly was to help finance the first presidential campaign of Cristina Fernandez. Antonini Wilson was a prominent member of the new “Bolivarian bourgeois” close to Chavez, which have become millionaires overnight on government contracts and perks.
Following the incident Cristina Fernandez, just a few months ahead of her first election, was furious and declared it was a “US Department ploy” to “frame her” and froze relations with Washington for several months.
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I suspect like the 'fisheries' licenses they will have no takers as it would be violating international law.
The bit about 'tightening the noose' around the 'mythical' Malvinas, that can't be found on any map, is amusing, but it once again shows that Argentina's aggression towards the Falklanders is alive and kicking, and we should keep a very close eye on them.
By the way, Argentina, any company that tired to drill in the Falklands EEC without the permission of the Falkland Islands Government would:
1. Be detained by the Royal Navy and their assets seized.
2. Have a civil court case brought against them by the Falkland Islands Government.
These things, of course, would no doubt be very expensive for a company. In fact, considering Argentina's propensity to 'nationalise' (steal) private companies, it would be cheaper for these international companies to legally buy their licences from the Falkland Islands Government without any legal problems, and they'll get to keep their profits too.
You see, Argentina, the world recognises that the Falkland Islands have the right to these resources, just like they recognise that the Falkland Islands are British territory. And unlike Argentina the FIG can and will take anyone violating their sovereign territory to an international court, whereas Argentina can only impotently threaten to take them to a local Argentine court that has no jurisdiction outside of Argentina.
However, this of course is nothing more than a distraction for the 'Argentine public'. One wonders just what calamity the government of CFK is trying to keep quiet.
How? If they find oil, then fair enough, good for them (as long as it's not in Falklands waters).
But I am failing to see how it would essentially become a 'bargaining chip' for the UK.
“Clarin speculates that if oil is found in the waters located beyond the control of the UK, Argentina will have a real geopolitical tool used in a hypothetical negotiation with Great Britain.” lol i can't see anyway in which this would help in negotiations!
I suspect they've been watching The Simpsons too much.
The Simpsons tap some oil + the evil Mr Burns taps the same well (at an angle) and drains it before they can get much use out of it.
Personally, doesn't seem too far from reality for what Argentina could do.
It's a lot cheaper and easier to do 0/g exploration on land rather than in the water.
Plus I don't see any company picking up this bid unless it is U$ upfront.
Just another stupid PR stunt that will go as far as their bullet train has...
It's their business and I imagine that no one in the Falklands could care less.
Similarly, if the Falklanders drill for oil in their territorial waters, then it is none of Argentina's business .
Jul 30th, 2012 - 05:58 pm
Agreed but what price a political point to Malvinista?
Oh by the way Argentina you are sucking in Olympic Hockey! guess who too?
We had nukes in 82, didn't make a blind bit of difference. If Argentina had nukes tomorrow, it wouldn't make a blind bit of difference.
Also, nuking the islands would not only stop Argentina from getting the islands, but would also have radiation sweep back onto mainland Argentina. Likely deforming and killing children in mainland Argentina.
Actually i have no idea why i even replied. You clearly are a moron.
Jul 30th, 2012 - 06:56 pm
No. Traditionally it is the Argentine Navy that hides in port whilst the boys in the Air Force and the Army busy putting their backsides on the line for a lost Malvinista cause. I mean you lost one ship and bottled it.
Plus. Whatever your government can scrape together for a nuclear 'defence' programme (whatever that is) it will all be for naught because we are at least a generation ahead of you. More likely two. Still. Keep dreaming fella.
Wishful thinking does not materialize reality. ThermoNuclear may be a wish for RG's, but waste words by talking about them. As for subs......the ballast valves will only open. You Navy has less than 40 vessels and most are tugs and cargo with the remainder PB's. Wake up and stay of the Melatonin. Even your beloved Belgrano was a used USA leftover built from WWI. After you've been to the gym, talk tough then.
“.... pushing for a nuclear defense program as well as an H-bomb to deal with british threats”
In what way pushing? Are you a politician of sorts? A man of some influence?
What *are* you drinking these days? Suggest you go back onto meths - it's far safer
It's uin his mate', it is definitely spiked. He always makes statements so far removed from reality, that's his M.O. Now he will come back calling someone a homo, racist, pervert. He is intellectually incapable of making a valid point.
“As part of its “Malvinas noose tightening” policy” Noose tightening?
WTF?? The only noose I can possibly think of is the one that ol' turkey neck will be swinging from when her enraged populus find out that she has been robbing them all blind and lying to their faces.
www.bgs.ac.uk/falklands-oil/images/regional/regional_basins.jpg
Anything inside the red area is the Falklands EEZ, the UK will defend it with its full strength.
Anything outside the red area is fair game. You drill there, whatever you find is yours..very very happy for you.
Argentina had shared opportunity for the red zone, but Kirchener ripped it up in a an Argentine strop. What a pity....
GB 4 Argentina 1.....to compete in the UK...train in the UK !!!
Yes, that must have been it. Have a nice flight home, you could always try to apply for political asylum on the basis CFK's goons will be going through your tax returns right now.
For one, you cannot build a nuclear defense program without the world powers that be. This is one area that yes, you will get bombed. Iran is pretending to build one under the premise of energy. While they are still not there, they are on the verge of knowing what the cavemen lived like. If you think you can build a nuclear defense without the superpowers knowing.....your head actually reached your small intestines. Iraq was the last to try, and quite frankly they have more bravado the an RG. 81 saw operation Opera and no more nuclear plant. There's a stigma about unstable countries having nuclear copacity. Like it or not.......not little guy, you do not have that right because stronger countires tell you so.
www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=26686
You never even got to be a nobody before Argentina became a has been.
Wake up and wipe your ass with a peso:
www.nti.org/country-profiles/argentina/
And your point is? Do you really think that we or you for that matter give a shit? What has Libya got to do with this? Stay on the actual topic. And consider why very few people on this site actually bother to reply to you.
Cannot see many rushing to drill in their waters based just on 2D work either.
Yawn!!!!!! put another record on please!!!
You stole our islands from us wa, wa, wa!!!
You're nothing but a bunch of Pirates!! wa, wa, wa!!!
save it for the social worker love............
Youre men cant even to win a match in a sport made for women? Ha, ha....says everything.
Yet Argentine men go to the Olympics and represent Argentina playing field hocky. You're insulting your own team Troll you should be called twinky.
1) a botched anthem
2) a botched flag
3) immigration officers on strike and police cuts forcing to use the military
4) tons of empty seats on world television for all to see
5) a snub of Argentina at the OP
6) the Mitt the twit vs Borat Johnson anglo-saxon diss-fest
7) now the cauldron fiasco
Imagine if those had happened in an olympics in South America, hahaha, the racist Europeans will never be able to utter a word about any mishaps in Rio, we will promptly remind you of this (plus Atlanta and Munich).
Correct again. There is no place called Fakland - I checked Google also.
However there is a paradise called the Falkland Islands lying - thankfully well east of the S.A. mainland - populated by charming, honest cheerful people - unlike their moaning neighbours.
Seems some of you have prejudices to work out? All I said was you beat us in what is Argentina's number 1 women's sport. FACT.
It was the two of you that somehow extrapolated from that some sort of diss.
May I suggest for both of you some anti-PC therapy.
He talks about nuking the Falkland's islands which will also give his own country nuclear fall out not that it matters since Argentina is incapable of funding a nuclear program nor does it have the technology to or people to build a fleet of nuclear subs and weapons, got 250bn spare? LOL
And of course any nuclear attack on the Falkland's would result in the annihilation of Argentina by the British so I think its fair to say this is nothing more than yet another fantasy....
Still it is entertaining...
P.S. Shame about hockey eh?
WHO said anything about “manly” games? I just said hockey is a female sport in Argentina. How is that suggesting it is a “girly” sport? All you can assume from that statement is that in Argentina it is a popular women's sport.
I think I hit three birds with one stone, just admit guys you fell for it. Now the joke is over, move along now... hahaha.
Don't be so bitter and misanthropic about falling right into my cheeky comment. hahaha, if this is how you guys react in victory I shudder to think how you react in defeat (oh we know, remember the streets of Saint-Etienne in 98?)
I'm sure you guys made the schedule so that you won't see Argentina in women's hockey, mens basketball, tennis doubles, mens volleyball, and probably rugby 7s too. lol
Maybe the true native Argentinians should also be armed with Nuclear weapons and use them against the aggression of the European Argentinians.... Much like you, you sad war mongering, twit. What a pity you aren't coming to see your national team in London. Maybe you and I could meet up for a drink... Only you get to drink a lung full of Thames water.
Machismo coward.
and it is Abal Medina, not Abal Median...if brtis write about latins, they dont understand the language
You obviously have hang ups with homosexuals. Maybe you are one or were raped by your priest when you were a child, which by your rhetoric you still appear to be.
Machismo coward.
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if we no understand , why do you reply.
if argentina can look for oil, near the falklands,
is it then not true, that we can look for oil next to argentina .
www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=26686
@pirat- hunter- you are a prat.
The reason I ask is that surely anybody who is literate, to a degree that they can read the last 12 months news of this website, can see the obvious and inexorable decline toward bankruptcy and chaos that a certain woman is causing in Argentina. She is alienating virtually all of her neighbours, pushing businesses out of not only her country but also her neighbours and she is making herself, and her country, a laughing stock.
As such I find it very hard to believe that any rational person can act as her prop unless there is some ulterior motive such as “she pays me to say it” (something, let us remind ourselves, she has a habit of doing for her rallies and speeches).
I mean should, in some alternate universe, Argentina ever manage to eject the only people with a right to the Falklands (the Falklands Island people that is) and colonise the land with Argentines.. you do realise that the only nations in the world that will still deal with Argentina will be North Korea and Venezuela?
A what a happy little holiday camp that will be...
Its a bit stupid to go to the expense of drilling at sea if you've got huge known reserves on land.
In anycase, if Argentina drills in its own territorial waters, that's fine.
It doesn't matter how many resources Argentina finds as the peronists couldn't run a piss up in a brewery, and will still manage to screw up their economy.
THe Falkland Islands with limited resources do well because there's one difference between FIG and The Argentine Government .
FIG know how to manage things properly. The Argentinian Government always screws up financially.
we have one in conventry,
we can always make it [2]
- That is their Exclusive Economic Zone. Their Territorial Waters only extend 12 miles offshore (like everyone else).
Just had to laugh at your post. Check out number one of the list on this article:
www.cracked.com/funny-3809-internet-argument-techniques/
Not the first time you've used that one I reckon.
:o)
Well maybe if you'd actually done that you might not have got your arses kicked by Team GB.
I don't remember old plastic face calling field hockey a sport for girls after that bogus ad came out anyway.
And why the puck does NATO need to go up and down the Atlantic Ocean, who the hell is there out there? The Atlantians building some centrifuges?
I never understood that Euro and US obsession with projecting might in areas where there is absolutely no relevance whatsover. It is just a source of laughter for us. Imagine if Brazil or Argentina sent ships hither and thither the English Channel/La Manche, or the middle of the North Atlantic... it would be histerical.
That's what you guys are. Wasting billions on sciamachy.
The Olympics is a great networking/ deal making forum where heads of state reconfirm strong relationships and propose new business opportunities for each other to explore. But of course CFK doesn't need anyone else does she.
Chuckle chuckle.
Why do TTT and especially Pie-Rot hunter, support Christina so slavishly, and repeat her dogma as though it is sacred?
Do they really think that she'll fulfill their adolescent fantasies of having sex with every one of them who votes for her, and mindlessly tries to rationalise her nonsense???
As to the oil exploration, I wouldn't hold your breath if you're expecting big things. As things stand, not much oil has been found and a hell of a lot of time, money and effort has gone into finding it. Trying to persuade an oil company to take on the exploration task is going to be tricky, particularly given Argentina's history of moving the goalposts when it feels like it. If Argentina were mad enough to include any area inside Falkland territorial waters, then the added geo-political risk would guarantee no external oil company would go near it.
I am still waiting for you to point out the location of the “Faklands” on a map.
It's called freedom of the seas. NATO vessels can go anywhere they like, unless it is into someone elses territorial waters.
Our ships in the South Atlantic are there to deter your country from a second war and to protect our economic interests. We have the right ro do that and there is nothing you can do about it except bleat and make rather absurd claims about militarisation.
and the Rgs were sighted in the Channel many years ago.... www.markethousephotographygroup.com/gallery/Tony+Maris/HMS+Fife+glides++past+the+Argentian+Barque+Libertad+in+The+English+Channel.jpg.html
Mind you I don't think the RG Navee has anything that could find its way to the Channel these days......
TiT is a goose....
@63 You don't get to “demand” anything, peabrain.
@67 We prefer killing latinos. They squeal louder.
@71 Sorry? We're not doing it in “iraq, libya, syria, egypt, somalia, Kenya, mali, Sudan, Sri lanka and Congo”. We don't have time. You're next!
@81 Because we want to. Sea air is very bracing. And we can. And we will. For as long as we want. And we have loads more money than you do.
@83 It's because they aren't expecting a disaster any second, so they can. The corollary is that anyone who ISN'T there IS expecting a disaster any second.
@91 Don't be ridiculous. Gooses are useful!
Brazilian Navy ship 'Brasil' moored alongside HMS Belfast, London 2009
www.flickr.com/photos/sciencemuseum/4008564434
Not particularly hysterical.
“”“Why do TTT and especially Pie-Rot hunter, support Christina so slavishly, and repeat her dogma as though it is sacred?”“”
I suspect that they are paid to do so.
(in $USD of course!) ¬_¬
1) Trying to attract the investment from the large oil and gas companies is going to be difficult given the recent attitude of the CFK government to foreign oil and gas companies. YPF (and therefore the government) is struggling to raise the investment needed to advance Vaca Muerta and given that this is a low cost (when compared to off shore exploration) and a proven source of shale gas it would suprise me if the same companies who do not want to be a part of these venture are then going to be attracted to a large cost unproven resource zone.
2) Oil and shale gas flows througth fissures within the ground, given that the FIs oil exploration and drilling programe is 3-4 years ahead of Argentinas (drilling due to start in 2014) there is a chnace that oil exploration within the red zone will draw some resource from the area imemdiatle outside the zone, This was the reason the Government under President Menem choose to enter into a joint deal on hydrocarbon exploration which Nestor Kirchiner throw out in the biggest case of cutting your nose off to spite your face I have even seen.
One hopes that some sources of energy become identified and exploited before the country collapses or becomes totally in thrall to Venezuela.
It would obviously be cheaper to find and exploit oil reserves on land; has this been tried? It would probably need a foreign company to exploit the reserves.
It would obviously be cheaper to develop hydroelectric power from the Andes. Have any good sites been identified?
It would obviously be cheaper to buy Venezuelan oil. What could Argentina offer in return? Car parts?
It would obviously need money; are there any known unexploited gold reserves in Argentina that could be exploited? It might need a foreign company to extract it.
There is so much that Argentina could do ... if it wanted to.
Meanwhile, It is in its interests to exploit its EEZ, right up to the boundary with that of the Falkland Islands.
It would need vast amounts of monetary loans.
Has Argentina thought of approaching the IMF?
As long as Argentina is ethical and repays its loan debts on time there should be no problem.
I presume there is every reason why foreigners would want to invest in a Argentinian state offshore oil company.
You are right that Argentina has huge potential, it has a huuge pool of educated people, massive depsoits of resources incluidng as you state gold, silver, copper, oil, shale gas etc etc. These resources are currently being investigated for instance the copper and gold projects in San Juan, la Rioja, Santa Cruz, Chubut and Rio Negro provinces. One of the worlds largest shale gas reserves exists in Vaca Muerta in Chubut.
The non use of this potential is often known as the Argetnina mystery. i.e. how can a country have so much potential be prone to such economic problems.
The current problem is that the government here is very suspesious of companies making profits (it believes this money should be invested back into the country) rather than allowing the payment of dividens to share holders. In an ideal world Argentina would have the capital required to develop its only industrial but unfortuantly it does not and therefore requires foreign investment and due to the issue mentioned above as well as the recent nationilsation of YPF has scared many current and potential investors off.
The current government is very nationalist and as such sees asking for money from the IMF as a surrendering of its independence. Argentina has recieved IMF funding. however the current economic siutation of slowing growth and rising inflation is making it increasingly hard for Argentina to meet its foreign debts payments (there is a virtual ban on citizens purchasing foreign currency here to ensure dollers are avalible for the govement to meet these obligations). Argentina cannot borrow on the open market because of the soverign debt default in 2001.
Hopefully you can therefore see that untill the government takes a more positive long term view on foreign buisness, investment and its economy it is going to struggle to raise the cpaital it requires from wither foreign investors or from other means. Argentina is let down by one thing, its government.
Lets add clock malfunctions to the otherwise flawless organization...
sports.yahoo.com/blogs/olympics-fourth-place-medal/korean-fencer-forced-remain-piste-while-waiting-incredibly-191228265--oly.html
minus the flag cock up that is...
and minus the anthem mess up,
and minus the immigration and police 3rd world problems
and minus the thousands of empty seats on TV
... and minus the olympic cauldron being extinguished for the 1st time
... and minus the Mitt the Twit vs Borat Johnson lovefest
and minus the the argentina snub at the OP.
Aside from that, flawless.
:)
I think you f**ked up again, @92 didn't mention the Olympic Games!!!!!
No, not that, the UK snubbed Argentina at the OP.
What is their big fuss about?
Cannot see any Oil Company taking a licence from them in a disputed area even if Arg was daft enough to offer on up.
What are they burbling on about- any ideas?
Or is it perhaps all a smokescreen for their own people rather than have to admit there is zero they can do about the Falklands developing their zone as is now happening?
103 islander1. i know what you mean, maybe something was lost in translation or Clarin is a joke of a news agency.
For someone who hates the Olympics you seem to be endlessly droning on about it. No one snubbed Argentina, they had over 30 seconds exposure around the world.
So it's your word against the 1 billion other people who all saw Argentina being welcomed into the stadium with a big cheer from the crowd. You really are making a complete fool of yourself with this continuous 'victimisation' thing you have going, but I suppose you are Argentine, playing the 'victim' is in your blood. Strange that a supposedly 'macho' country does nothing but continuously cry.
But just what does any if this have to do with the numerous threads you have 'mistakenly' posted on about the Olympics?
If you haven't got anything to add to this discussion then don't post. Or is La Campora now paying you to relentlessly post on nothing but the Olympics for the next 2 weeks?
But back to the thread. Argentina can't even get the foreign investment for onshore drilling let alone off shore. I don't think there'll be many takers, especially if they try to muscle in on the Falklands EEZ.
But as other posters have said, what Argentina does in international waters is their own business.
Your supposed slight is nothing short but a decapitating boomerang, the fact you call Argentina 'macho' because it is latin shows the profundity of your lack of knowledge. To see real machismo, go to Mexico, Venezuela, central america, etc.
I will keep posting olympic miscues because that is exactly what racist European and Americans will do when even a fraction of those incidents happen in Rio.
It doesnt matter how you dress it up you still come across as a very bitter individual
How about taking a break from 'defending the honour' of Argentina for a while at least and try to enjoy life a bit more.
An Argie minister has written to a bunch of politicos about getting somebody with money to help them drill for oil in their own waters.
But they can't get anybody to 'help' with YPF!
No-one with half a brain trusts the bastards not to thieve everyting they have in Argentina!
AND, this is supposed to put pressure on the Brits?
Only from pissing themselves through laughter.
Can you tell me what this snub to Argentina was at the opening ceremony,
I watched the whole show and did not see any discourtesy to your team, in fact, they looked a happy crew.
How would you describe Pirat Hunters actions. We must drop an H Bomb on the Brits. - all Brits are Homos and child molesters, I will fight you all single handed -etc etc.
Does this not strike you as a bit of macho posturing ?
After all, hardly anyone in the UK knows or has met anyone from Argentina, so our opinions are based on the posters here.
I remember the scenes in Buenos Aires during your inept invasion of the Falklands. Your citizens en masse waving your national flag screaming A-R-G-E-N-T-I-N-A. The latest flag burning episode outside the British Embassy. To us in the UK that looks like “macho” posturing.
Of course, maybe the word has a different shade of meaning here.
Falklands Argentine site attacked
(UKPA) – 2 hours ago
Argentina's war cemetery in the Falkland Islands has been vandalised.
The glass that protects a figure of the Virgin Mary has been repeatedly smashed.
The vandalism could have happened anytime in the last week or more, said Sebastian Socodo, an Argentine who takes care of the cemetery that holds the remains of 237 Argentine combatants killed during the 1982 war between Argentina and Britain
But I least I have a brain to suffer neurosis. You don't have one.
Anyone that states that I have no right to defend myself from your constant attacks and lies is cephalicless. The neurosis in on your side, insulting Argentina in every article about every subject at all hours of the day.
@112
I guess Conqueror is the perfect Brit macho then.
@113
Hardly a vandalic act against Argentina. Do you brits also believe we are some sort of uber-pious Catholic society? People go to the movies on Easter sunday for Paul's sake. Do you people have any education or cultural insight of the world outside your island? My what ignorance!
lol kinda agree with you about Conqueror, but same can be said about prat-hunter. everyone has some crazies.
True smashing a bit of glass isn't the end of the world, but its all over the news wires & i gess kfc will make something of it (or timmy)?.
is Argie looking for briton?
Today is briton last day 31 July 2012....Hum.. to serve his claim.
I guess old briton is not interested in responding....no?
What a wimp!
Oh! Isolda miedosa y asquerosa don't dare to answer this one!
She is taking the place of Conor and Zhivago, case closed!
You come here to be offended and to offend people. Simple as that.
If you don't like being offended, don't offend. Simpler yet.
anyone can be offended, when abused by abusers,
While not of the scale of some of the cemetery vandalism that happens: this still has to be regretted. Forgetting about Argentina or Britain it is still disrespectful to the dead, mainly young conscripts, and their families.
The FIG have done the right thing in condemning the vandalism and asking members of the public to support the investigation.
Come on Tobias / TTT / (insert numerous other names here), or anyone else who would like to answer on his behalf, please tell us what the big bad nasty snub was.
Good effort in the rowing by your precious Argentina last night by the way. Continuing in the footsteps of many fine mariners before them.
Is that it? Really?
TTT, is that it? Do you wish to confirm/ deny or elaborate? Do you consider it a snub that your precious Argentina didn't get the same air time as others? Most likely this is simply because you were watching another country's feed (because Argentine TV didn't send its own crews) and therefore having to put up with their athletes taking centre screen. Why were you watching the Olympics anyway? I mean why was it even on Argentine TV? Nobody in Argentina is interested according to you. I thought you'd be all too busy eating your macho beef to worry about a sport dominated by rice And pasta eaters.
Come on, you can see we are all waiting for an answer; how did the UK snub Argentina?
I just saw in the paper UK defeats Brazil in women's football? They need to check for doping!
Perhaps the whole stadium should have prostrated themselves in awe on the entry of the Argentinian athletes, the world's greatest ever olympic team. Definately a snub for everyone not to aknowledge their awesomeness with humble prostration....
I suspect that's something more like it. LOL!
Actually though, TIT just made me realise something when he mentioned dope testing. Now I know why the dirty, deceitful, cheating ex-captain of the precious Argentine hockey side didn't make the games. Maybe that's also why CFK didn't go to London.
Chuckle chuckle.
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Jul 30th, 2012 - 06:47 pm
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Between the anthem and flag amateur cock-ups, the immigration and police strikes, the olympic cauldron fk-up, and now all the empty seats, plus the snub of Argentina's flag... '
Would this be the flag missing from the Plaza de Mayo?
Now we know where it went! LOL
For your viewing pleasure, Europe teeming with MACHISMO:
www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=YVXc2o5shto
And this is Brussels (they are even more reserved than the Brits)... imagine in Paris, Berlin, Rome, Madrid, London... hahahahahahahahaha. That is 10 times worse than in Argentina... And please don't tell me it doesn't happen in your countries, or will you force me to pull some older video.
Shocking European machismo!!!
Jul 31st, 2012 - 10:57 pm
Nobody is less relevant than a Malvinista. Fact.
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How about you answer this one: Aren't areas of the World where there were never any humans supposed to remain free of humans?? (i.e. Antarctica)
Isn't that the British position to oppose Argentine colonization of Antarctica?
No it isn't. It's because there are international treaties governing who can do what in Antarctica. That and the fact that Antarctica no more belongs to Argentina than the Gobi desert does.
Which didn't exist in the 19th century which means there was no theft of lands by Argentina. All the land taken from indians, Paraguay, Chile, Bolivia, Uruguay and the part of Iguazu from Brasil was all legit. It was called empire building at the time.
Yes, and? Where have I said otherwise? I would suggest however that if Argentina's Falkland's claim (which I do not agree with), require that Argentines that are European leave the country to retroactively not be hypocrites, then certainly if Britain wishes to have any respect in the international community it would vacate all humans living in the Falklands so that hypocrisy over their Antarctica view is not realized.
But then, when did the UK care about not looking like hypocrites? People that don't care about honor don't care about any “h” word.
Yeah probably. The thing is things have moved on a bit since the 19th century. And just because you're away down there in the South Atlantic doesn't mean you get to be some sort of imperialist rogue state throwback. Sorry.
You're getting very touchy about subjects. But then the same statement could be redirected at you.
Maybe the pressure of trying to defend the indefensible is getting to you. You should take a break. Kick back, put your feet up and forget about Mercopress, the economy and politics for a while.
Now where can you go that doesn't require you to purchase US$? I hear Chile is quite nice.
I'm just having fun lifting the masquerade off the posters here who claim to be “objective” or that they “know” Argentina.
Keep it to yourself, but I'm your new case handler from MI6. Will a cheque be OK?
The 'go back to Europe you hypocrites' is aimed at those Argentines who say the British should go back to the UK. This is a separate hypocrisy from the hypocrisy of Argentines continuing to whine over stolen territory even after Argentina had conquered territory. The hypocrisy lies in the whining, not the taking of territory, which was legal back then.
And the UK made its first formal claim in Antarctica in the 1820s, Argentina didn't make any formal claim there until the 1940s
the only people freely living in the south atlantic would be the britsh, and the native inhabitents,
is this not true,
and all you argie bargies would not even exist .
Just like Antarctica, the Falklands had no native people well into modern times.
How does that work exactly? The Argentines will drill oil in Argentine waters and the Falklanders will do the same in Falklands waters.
What does that have to do with negotiations that will never happen?
Colupathed ? Where did you make up this word from?
I had never heard of this one so I looked it up in the Oxford Dictionary.
It doesn't appear there either.
The 1959 Antarctic Treaty system is probably the only international treaty Argentina has signed that they haven't disregarded yet. They're probably itching to show the world what naughty little scamps they are. Cheeky little monkeys ^_^
Give it 25 years and they'll not only be claiming all of antarctica, all of chile and the entire south atlantic but ascension island, st helena and equatorial guinea (hey, it was a spanish colonial possession once which obviously means spain recognised argtard soveriegnty of it after argtard independance in 1816, right?).
They wont actually get anywhere with this ludicrous nonsense but it'll just mean more administrative timewasting at the UN for future generations as the populations in the lands they lay claim to successively tell them to GTFO
TiT trying to be clever by making up words!!!! What a sad little man!
I am still waiting for a reply as to the whereabouts of the “faklands” and Malvinas Argentinas. You can do what you want in your own waters as can the Falkland Islanders. No doubt Argentinian drilling and seismic technology is so far advanced that you will be able to do this on your own.
Just as you can build H-bombs, delivery systems and nuclear powered ballistic missile submarines.!o put it mildly, you are a sad, deluded little person. If the rest of the Argentinian population are the same as you - heaven forbid - then you are all up the creek without a paddle.
ps. What happened in your last post - no ranting or expletives which we have come to love and enjoy
I am afraid that if, by some extreme chance, the British were to try to force the Falkland Islanders to come to Britain, then we would have a major conflict with the United Nations who would regards such an act as illegal
#159 illegal aliens can't dictate where in Malvinas Argentina we can drill.
#160 fakland island holdings is a british firm they can drill anywhere they wish in UK not issues there. Argentina is another out of the question. We remember BP, don't. You??
#161 lol you are a slave because your own country will not give you a passport so now you made up your own papers but still have a british governor. To me that is slavery someone who is never elected but yet holds position of power. You are a colony go home already and stop making up BS.
Next to, but not in Falklands. If Falklands are Argentine, why do they not occupy them ?
Record stuck in the groove again. I know of no “Faklands islands holding co.”
Can you supply me with the company registration details ?
I know of the Falklands Island Holding co who carry out their legitimate business there.
The Slavery Abolition Act of 1833,passed into law in the UK, made it illegal to have slaves in the UK or any territory under its control. The Falkland Islands would have come under this Act. Delegation of powers to the FIG means that any slaves in the Falklands are illegal and your government should inform the UN of this practice. As to the mythical “islas malvinas argentinas” I could not express an opinion as they do not exist.
They're not slaves! As British citizens, the islanders have the right to live in the UK. But they choose to live in their birthplace, where they have been for nine generations, because it's their home. They are a free people. It's Argentina that would turn them into slaves.
If Argentina ever took over the islands, the Argentine government would have to impose authoritarian rule in order to maintain sovereignty and prevent the islanders from declaring independence. This is what has happened throughout history whenever countries (even ones that seem democratic) have taken over territories against the wishes of the people living there.
Once again you show your complete stupidity. Where is your proof?
You haven't got any proof, not of these absurd claims you have just made, or indeed of Argentina's spurious claims over the Falklands. Hence why you spout rubbish. All you do is make yourself look stupid, ignorant and rascist.
Yes PH you are a racist.
But you know what? The UK or the Falkland Islands Government aren't worried about this latest 'policy' from Argentina any more than they are worried about the banning of UK ships.
Why? Because these statements are for public consumption only, for the terminally stupid and gullible people who live in Argentina. The more intelliegent Argentines can see through CFK and her gangsters, and know the truth.
Argentina hasn't got the money to explore for oil and gas on the mainland (hence why they're currently on their knees begging the Chinese to invest after the US turned you down), and they certainly haven't got the money to explore for oil and gas in the sea (an infinitely more expensive prospect).
They can try and 'sell' licenses, but I doubt they will have any takers, for these reasons.
1. International companies and investors are wary of the Argentine government's proclivity of stealing companies under the thin veil of nationalisation.
2. The Argentine government insists on a 'cap' on the price of each barrel of oil, making the extraction of it unprofitable for the company involved.
3. The same licenses can be bought from the Falkland Islands Government without the worry of the Falklands capping prices or stealing the company.
As for banning British flagged ships, I doubt anyone will notice, or care. All of this is spouted for the domestic 'consumption' of gullible people and stupid people like you Pirat-hunter.
You will find that there are none - other than the power of requesting UK to take over, IF there is clear proof that the local Govt is acting corruptly, crookedly and or illegally etc!
And the Governor General of Australia can do the same there if the same situation arose! Are you going to tell me Australia is a Colony!
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