“Argentine blockade can’t stop the Falklands”, said Islands’ lawmakers in Guatemala
The Argentine blockade can’t stop the Falkland Islands and “if Argentina believes that these aggressions are going to change the mind and spirit of the Islanders, they are dead wrong, much on the contrary”, said Falklands’ lawmakers currently visiting Guatemala on a tour of Central America and Mexico.
Interviewed by Guatemala’s daily Prensa Libre, the country’s most influential newspaper, Falklands’ lawmakers Dr Barry Elsby and Dick Sawle said that the purpose of their visit is to present the Falklands people’s case, their right to self determination, to continue developing the economy, having good relations with Latinamerica and to inform on the coming referendum on the Islands political status.
“Even admitting that the trade, communications and other hurdles imposed by the Argentine blockade on a population of 3.000 are a nuisance since they impact on the free movement of vessels by having them banned from the region’s ports, it won’t change our minds or hearts, the Argentines are dead wrong, it’s never going to happen”, said MLA Elsby specifically asked about the Argentine blockade on the Falklands.
MLA Sawle went on to say that it was very important to understand that what happened in 1982 with the Falklands/Malvinas war did not stop the clock and that Argentina’s version of events since is not correct.
“Wars are terrible; nobody likes wars, much less those who have suffered them. But we must explain to the world, to whoever we meet that we are a country entirely different to that of 1982. Since then we’ve had three constitutions, each of them has advanced our self government, and power now rests on the eight elected members of the Legislative Assembly, except for defence and foreign affairs which remain with London, because we so decided in full exercise of our self determination”, explained MLA Sawle .
“The Falklands are no longer a colony, they are an Overseas Territory in full exercise of our right to self determination, and that is how we want to remain. The British government is very clear on this, they support self determination and they will until we say so. This has been official policy from all UK governments since 1982” added Sawle.
“Who else but us has the right to decide on our future, the UK 12.000 miles away, Argentina, 300 miles away? No, the people of the Falklands and any talks about our future are not a bilateral issue between UK and Argentina, they must include the Falklands, this is a three sides issue: London respects it, Buenos Aires insists in ignoring us”, explained Dt. Elsby.
MLA Sawle recalled that relations with Argentina were good in the nineties: there was a fisheries agreement of common interest; there was a hydrocarbons agreement which would have opened the Falklands’ oil industry to Argentina; from 1999 Argentine passport holders could travel to the Islands; a memorial to the fallen Argentine soldiers buried in the Islands was built, but with the arrival of the Kirchner couple all changed.
“Nestor and Cristina Kirchner ignored the fisheries and oil agreements, limited air links and adopted a stance that recalls events surrounding the 1982 Argentine military invasion of the Falklands. More trade and communications aggressions, all very disappointing; we believe they are trying to distract the people from domestic problems by waving the Malvinas flag”, said MLA Sawle.
The Falklands’ lawmakers admit that the oil and gas issue puts more pressure on the issue, “but Argentina will never have sovereignty over the Falklands, because the British government supports our right to self determination and to develop our economy. And furthermore as we have said before any decisions on our future, any possible discussions must include the people of the Falklands which Argentina insists in ignoring”.
Furthermore next year the Falklands are holding a referendum on the Islands’ political status to send a clear transparent undisputed message to the world of what the Falkland Islanders want and their future.
“The referendum is being organized following international criteria; we will invite international observers, hopefully also from South America, and with the question correctly drafted free of all suspicions. We want a clear, plain direct message referred to our right to self determination”.
Regarding relations with Latin America Dr. Elsby said that before the Argentine blockade and the ban on Falklands’ flagged vessels, the Islands had fluid trade, labour and people’s links with Chile, Uruguay, Brazil with some of those connections going back a couple of centuries.
“Our population is small but we have Argentines, Uruguayans, Brazilians and a significant Chilean community living with us. With the new scenario things have changed, the Falklands have to look for other links and we regret losing those long established links. But I also think Chile and Uruguay are disappointed and will miss the opportunity of trade and other venues”, concluded Dr Elsby.
Before leaving for Mexico the Falklands’ lawmakers met with representatives of the Guatemalan Government, the civil society as well as with members of the Congress, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, university students and opinion formers, amongst others.
Suggested Stories
-
May 23rd 2013
Falkland Islands wish for normal neighborly relations with all South American neighbors
-
May 21st 2013
Falkland Islands: it’s a three-side debate; Argentina must recognize Islanders right to decide their future
-
May 20th 2013
Falkland Islands: Argentina blasts UK’s ‘double standard’ on self determination right
-
May 20th 2013
Polynesia in decolonization list; Pacific islands proposal supported by 193 votes in UN General Assembly
191 comments Feed
Note: Comments do not reflect MercoPress’ opinions. They are the personal view of our users. We wish to keep this as open and unregulated as possible. However, rude or foul language, discriminative comments (based on ethnicity, religion, gender, nationality, sexual orientation or the sort), spamming or any other offensive or inappropriate behaviour will not be tolerated. Please report any inadequate posts to the editor. Comments must be in English. Thank you.
Ahhh those two clowns from England, Barry and Dick :-))))))
Have you grown a spine yet?
Everyone else knows this, it's just Argentina that hasn't caught on to the idea yet. Talk about ignoring the elephant in the room LOL.
Me thinks that ignoring the Falkland Islanders themselves just got harder for KFC and her “yes” men.
What's that smell in the air?
Ah the smell if Argtard desperation. JAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJA!
No matter how much your government shouts, cries and stamps it's foot, it can't stop the Islanders from telling the rest of the world the truth.
You can try and shout loudly in the hopes of drowning them out, but the Falkland Islanders have discovered that they have a voice, and that voice is loud, clear and concise. Argentina's voice has been reduced to a pathetic whimper by CFK and her gang of inept bullies, that no one even bothers listening to anymore.
Colonial governor born in UK + two government officials are non-elected and designed by the Crown. Legislative Assembly: 8 out of 13 members are born in the UK!!!
The F#%*land Island's goverment is only a muppet controled by the UK!
Malvinenses control their future only in their imagination...
Independent government??? Hahaha Selfdetermination??? Hahaha
You keep making a fool of yourselves! Now in Guatemala, a country that fully supports argentine's claim!
Ha Ha Ha Ha
www.telesurtv.net/articulos/2012/02/04/guatemala-respalda-a-argentina-en-reclamo-por-soberania-de-las-islas-malvinas
Anyone that is entitled to vote in the Falklands is also entitled to stand in elections. Do Argentine legislators all have to be born and bred in Argentina? Sounds a bit prejudiced to me.
“We islanders Uk born and elected government officials, all our desitions must please the Queen, our Constitution was written in the UK cos don't know how to write, but we are independent. Please South America, respect our self determination”.
“The UN has never ever referred to us as people enjoying the right of self determination. The UN does not even keep into account our wishes, but we don't care. Because we don't give a dime what the UN says. We don't behave democratically in the international arena. We rule. And we do what we want because we can. So you respect the self determination WE understand e have, or we'll bomb you. That's it”.
Ha ha you are a JOKE!
Who cares what Guatamala or you think?
We will get our representatives from Outer Mongolia if we wnt to.
lt's got nothing to do with you or your silly country.
Just keep your long nose out of our business.
Argentina has NO legal claim to the Falkland Islands and NO moral case. It is a pity that some people are so gullible as to believe the propaganda that has been fed to them since the time of Peron (Hitler's buddy).
Yeah it does rather smack of desperation.
It is noticeable that the pro-malvenas(wjatever) posters get very desperate whenever the Falklands people speak up for themselves.
They are, however, following the official Argentine Government fiction of denying that the Falklands Islanders even exist; a policy that is rather floundering the more the FI's get out there and speak their case.
I would regard posts such as those form Marcus and Islas Malvenas as proof-positive of a plan that is not only working but deeply worrying the Argentine Government...and even their paid supporters.
they have simply forgot one thing both men have been Falklander nationals for a very long time. you are solely being made to look incompetent :)
You Must Try Harder, much harder!
Trolls could you afford breakfast this morning or are you on the forced “K” diet?
SELF-DETERMINATION & DEMOCRACY!!! All day, Every day :))
Must be a more democratic country that Argentina !
Sounds a bit lame. Very lame, in fact!
We notice that you've stopped arguing about the FACTS! The most impoertant of which is that 322 years of history shows that argieland has NO valid claim. On your current desperate idea, you could do a bit of useful research. Go around the world and find out how many members of all the different legislatures were born in a different country. Until you can do that, your point, like your claim, will have no validity. Not that we'll believe you. Because all argies ALWAYS lie.
It is, of course, true that it may take a year or two to counteract 179 years of argie lies, but since you continue to lie, it won't take that long. A couple of years to expose all your lies. Including all the lies you've told to the UN.
And you should try reading Article 55 of the UN Charter!
envy, you so wish you were part of the UK .
sadly we dont want you,
but thanks for your interest .lol
Lol - look at CFK where were her parents born? Oh thats right one in spain and one in germany, that makes your own president 1st generation implanted member of the argentine population, by your logic argentina is a puppet of germany and spain. The same could be said of nester, the son of a woman of chilean of croation descent and of father of swiss-german descent. So how come they were allowed to be presidents of argentina. Well each country has their own laws, some allow those born outside of the country and of different nationality to run for prime minister or president after becoming a national of that country, others do not allow it unless you were born of the same nationality. The falklands legislative members are according to falklands islands own laws allowed to run for election if they have been their look enough and are a falklands national. If i were to goto live in the falklands right now i would not be allowed to vote or run for election until a certain period of time has passed where i have been in full permanent resident of the islands. That my friend is how true democracy works, you have to earn the right to vote and to run for election first if your not originally from the country.
You keep whining about how they were born in the UK, yet forget about all those argentine lawmakers and politicians that were born outside of argentina. Talk about being a dam hypocrite.
Or just plain dumb or ignorant of the history of Argentina.
I stopped reading post #10 at this point: 'Legislative Assembly: 8 out of 13 members are born in the UK!!!'
There are only 8 MLAs in the Falklands. More Argentine fantasy and falsehoods.
Dick Sawle born UK long term Falkland Island resident
Dr Barry Elsby born UK long term Falkland Island resident
Mike Summers born Falkland Islands
Gavin Short born Falkland Islands
Jan Cheek born Falkland Islands
Roger Edwards born UK long term Falkland Island resident
Sharon Halford born Falkland Islands
Ian Hansen born Falkland Islands
All of the above have been democratically elected by those entitled to vote in the Falkland Islands. They were chosen on their merit from those people who decided to (and were entitled to) stand for election. Their country of birth has nothing to do with their ability to represent the people of the country where they live. And that applies to any country in the world that holds free and transparent elections as we do here in the Falklands.
BTW - What are you spineless bunch so surrender monkeys going to do about it? Shhhhhhh!
The Governor lost his vote in Govt here quite a long time ago!
As for where people were born - please explain the relevance/
By the way am still waiting for you to list the Int laws that UK has broken that you claimed a day or two ago?
GustBury - well if they are they same - please list the power making bodies that are the same as regards who can and who cannot vote in them?
Come on - lets have the list please?
The people will find them a lot more sensible and easier to deal with than the current Argy Gov.
Their arguments will be heard by some.
CFK & Co will choke on this.
And the rest of the world should understand, including the 95% anti-argie crowd here, that if you all think the constant insults and agression is going to change our mind, dead wrong to. You only increase support for CFK, and our belligerent attitude not just to the Falklands, but all the nations of the world in diplomacy, trade, and finance.
Then what are you doing here commenting on issues that have nothing to do with the Falklands? If the situation is settled and I agree, fuck off. You won't make us like you, so you may as well forget it.
An attack hamster thats what,
could give you a naster nip
But here you morons are, trying to display moral superiority when your country is ranked amongst the most evil influences on the world in the last millenium. :(
Sure, it's going to get rough at times and we know that we will never change your position but there are 3000 people out there who just want to get on with their lives without this stupid “Pirate jajaja” drivel about 1833 (all fixed in 1850 anyway). They were born on the islands as were their forbears. They have more rights to the island than anyone (including the UK) and deserve to be allowed to get on with their lives in peace.
This is much bigger than the Falklands. It was also fixed in 1982 that we don't want any further relations with you. Close the fucking embassy and get out!
In which index would that ranking be?
According to this one, the UK was ranked fourth most positively viewed country out of the 16 examined (counting the EU as one) world-wide, albeit with some interesting changes since previous years.
The figures are probably skewed, however, in that they don't have seem to have specially sought out rabid anglophobes or even xenophobes such as yourself, and the opinion of Argentina does not seem to have been sought.
Interesting to note the high positive figures in former British colonies, with the exception of Pakistan, and we all know why that is.
So there we are, not quite the Evil Empire you'd like us to be, and not quite the Vatican we never claimed to be either.
www.globescan.com/84-press-releases-2012/186-views-of-europe-slide-sharply-in-global-poll-while-views-of-china-improve.html
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Evil_Empire:_101_Ways_That_England_Ruined_the_World
It's amazing how they lie. The committee considers UN decolonization to the Falkland Islands as a colony. Of the 16 cases of colonialism in the world, 10 are for the UK they are: Anguilla, Bermuda, Gibraltar, the Mlavinas Islands, Cayman Islands, Turks and Caicos Islands, Monserrat Island, Pitcairn Island and St. Helena Island.
Just look at any web page concerning the decolonization committee of United Nations refers to are a colony.
Besides the UN resolutions are referred to a colony.
See 2065 (XX) of 1965, ratified by later resolutions 1973 (3160, XXVIII) 1976 (31/49), 1982 (37/9), 1983 (38/12), 1984 (39/6), 1985 (40/21), 1986 (41/40), 1987 (42/19) and 1988 (43/25). They all declare the existence of a sovereignty dispute. No self-determination. It is a territory to colonize.
Just look at any web page concerning the decolonization committee of United Nations refers to are a colony. Example Wikipedia.
es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comit%C3%A9_de_Descolonizaci%C3%B3n
Other arguments made in the book involve the popularity of homosexuality among the British nobility,[4] that the King James Bible was a deliberate act of heresy,[5] and that the Piltdown Man hoax was a deliberate attempt by British academia to prove that they were a superior race.[6]...”
Lovely legacy.
There is no doubt the UN has listed the Falklands as a non self-governing territory of the UK. But the fact is that we have our own Government and democracy that decides everything to do with the Falklands, therefore we are self-governing and thus not a colony.
Raul, what you also fail to realise is that if Argentina did control the Falklands, then it WILL be a colony of Argentina. The Falklands will be administered from Argentina against the wishes of the people that live in the islands. The very definition of a colony. So tell me, if you are completely against your theory that the Falklands are a colony of Britain, why do you support the islands becoming a colony of Argentina?
Why do the FI demand that Argentina cooperate in the South Atlantic? Do you support Argentina being beholden to a treaty with the FI and UK, and losing part of its sovereignty to decide what happens in its own waters?
Can you find a decent hotel in the islands? the answer is NO.
Can you find a decent restaurant in the islands: the answer is NO
Can you find a community college in the islands? The answer is NO
Can you find an apartment building in the islands: The answer is NO
The 3,ooo stinky farts are nothing more than clowns...hehehe
@ 48 - 2012
Thank you for your wonderful indepth and insightful input. It is of the standard I expect from Argentines. It just provides proof of the woeful education system in Argentina, or that Argentine mothers have a tendancy to often drop their children.
I am trying to get the Falklands on my itinerary in the next year. *fingers crossed*
You need to think twice before placing the blame on Argentina, argentinians and argentinians mothers...
So far the the islanders is telling to the world that they are not smart to develop the islands...
What is found in the internet about the islands is rubbish.
You should have stopped at the first paragraph. By the time I got to homosexuality in the nobility and the Piltdown Man racial superiority scam, I couldn't take anything seriously any more.
Thanks for the link though.
If the Islands are rubbish then why do you treat them as some sort of Shangri-la that you covet so much?
If the Islands are rubbish then why did your countrymen not fight to the last man in 1982? You could have at least used 75% of your ammunition and lost 50% of your forces before acknowledging you are a bunch of wasters.
TTT Argies make cavemen look like a superior race.
Jesus, get your facts and figures right before posting. Let me correct you, there are 42 million Argentines in your neighborhood 95% of them are of foreign European decent and only the minority of them are 8th-9th generation the rest being 7-1st generation. As the majority of the Falkland islanders are also 9th and 8th generation then you Argentineans have no right to claim the Falkland islanders islands. As the islanders have been their just as long as the minority of you Argentines have been in Argentina. Not to mention that fact that it prior to 1880, Argentina's southern border was on the northern edge of Patagonia and therefore thousands of miles from the islands. Hence why your continental shelf argument is flawed, as you did not have that territory from which your continental shelf extends from till the 1910's and therefore can not claim land that has belonged to other people from since 1765 when we first claimed the islands, claim we never ceded.
I think our AG trolls are a bit fixated about something.
Could it be, in the imortal words of Winston Churchill following the success at the Battle of Britain, that this is not the end, it is not even the beginning of the end but it is the end of the beginning. Argentina will lose their rediculous claim over the Falklands (there are STILL no Malvinas) in March 2013.
They make what kinds of Laws. ?
Do we have a comfortable well equipped hotel- Yes
Do we have a good restaurant - Yes
Do we have a community School - Yes to 16 nad free costs of education overseas after 16 for all who pass the exams.
Do we have an apartment block- Not as you would in cities of many thousands of people but yes we do have small blocks of flats.Do we control our own businesses and Industries - yes
Do we control our own offshore fisheries and hydrocarbon zones - yes
Do we elect our own Govt that controls the above andmake all internal laws etc - yes
Does the Governor appointed by UK have a vote in Govt - NO
Does any appointed Civil servant have a vote in Govt - NO
Do we have our own Currency - Yes- for convenience it is on par with the GB£
Are we outside the Sterling area internationally - yes Sterling can be found in the shops but take it to the bank and it is regarded as a foreign curreny.
Who in South America recognises our Govt and has commercial trade relations with us- Chile, Brazil, and Uruguay for a start.
on
external affairs,defense,internal security and
the administration of justice.
Can you name the “comfortable well equipped hotel?
No.
Why? looks bad, old design, not jacuzzi, no indoor swimming pool.
Only a ”good restaurant”...
How are you welcome the tourists, if they ever come.
With cornish pasties? Fish and Chips?
No monies for a community college: well no money..no development to build an university.
Any 12 fl. apartment building like found in many cities in Patagonia, Arg.?
No.
Why?
No monies to build high rise living style apartments.
Any house worth more than $200,000 dollars?
No.
Why?
No monies.
3,000 islanders lost!
No.
Do you have a navy worth talking about?
NO.
Could you do anything about the current status quo?
NO.
Are you an oxygen thief that constantly talks and does nothing?
YES!!!!!
I can post a link about that book as well.
“It reads as if every bar bore in Philadelphia, where the author hails from, got together one night and wrote down every half-assed insult they could remember about Britain, somewhat handicapped by the fact that none did high school history past sixth grade”
It makes the Argentine claims about the Falklands look almost sane so I can understand why it would appeal to someone as desperate to be taken seriously as you seem to be.
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-439765/The-Empire-Strikes-Back.html#ixzz25obGfhQQ
Well, I did not mean to offend you...
Is my choice like the people I know to eat well, reside in a good place, exercise in the gym, enjoy the steam room, swimming pool, and jacuzzi, go shopping and travel.
Islands like Cebu, Philippines have developed the islands exporting BANANAS ... which has helped the island to have the best shopping centers, hotels, apartments, and all kind of restaurants...including the famous maxican tacos and enchiladas...
FFS! How many names is that now SussieUS aka (insert about 20 names here)?
Chuckle chuckle.
@29 Come lie down where I can stamp on your face!
@33 Good! Then we can all get together and KILL you, can't we, FAGGOT?
@36 Did you notice the title of the article, FAGGOT? Hello, brainless!
@39 By whom, FAGGOT? Fascists, dictators, totalitarians, sodomites, queers? Maybe faggots?
@41 Haven't you just re-opened an embassy in OUR country? And sent another slag?
@43 A “book” described as “something nobody would take seriously.” Can you not read beyond the first sentence? Too much information?
@44 Two points, you moronic cretin. Irrelevant C-24. Not a single BINDING resolution. Now get stuffed!
@45 The words of a fascist faggot!
@47 The FI does DEMAND that the cesspit co-operates. Two options. Co-operate honestly, if it suits you. Otherwise, stay out of the way!
@48 Slag whore!
@52 Slag whore!
@59 They regulate the argie hunting season. There's always a big question over whether it should last 364 days or the whole 365!
@64 Slag whore! Look everybody. It's Sussie, the US slag whore trying to pretend to be someone else. The thick slut!
.....“ a young developing island that will soon see the benefit of OIL”....
now?
why not 50 years ago?
Oh, well...kind of slow thinking...
“why not 50 years ago?”
I can answer that, if we developed the oil industry then we'd have denied ourselves the pleasure of using the internet to gloat over our success and your failure to hinder it.
:-)
well, well, well, same british defensive tactics..using unacceptable words.
Mercopress don't permit abusive language. Please, follow the rules.
www.portafolio.co/economia/%E2%80%98-islas-malvinas-estamos-abiertos-los-negocios%E2%80%99
Piss off.
“The statements are more to do with the irresponsibility of the Argentine Government and their contempt towards the South Atlantic eco-system. I fail to see what your inane questions have to do with my comment TTT.”
Your inordinate arrogance fails to supply oxygen to your brain. There is no irresponsibility by Argentina. There is no contempt. We take care of our waters, you just have no say in it because it is NOT YOUR WATERS. Whatever you do in your EEZ fine... but to call Argentina irresponsible because it does not permit outsiders to decide what happens within its territory is the apotheosis of Hubris.
That's is what Prince Harry told his call girl in Las Vegas, oh, what scandal!... Those photos of Prince Harry found all around the world!
Funny less.
Really? How are the waters off Mar del Plata, Bahia Blanca or Port Madryn and Rawson your waters??
I look forward to this.
No doubt you will try soon, that is what I have been saying here forever. The British never stop tryting to steal other's land/water.
But we are waking up to this (since we withdrew from the 'agreements'), and we will be preparing ourselves for your impending agression.
British islands
British people,
British protected.
Argentine aggression
Argentine greed
Argentine talk.
End of.
.
As we all know, the UK barks when the USA tells to do.
“Legislative Assembly: 8 out of 13 members are born in the UK!!!”
@25
“There are only 8 MLAs in the Falklands. More Argentine fantasy and falsehoods.
Dick Sawle born UK long term Falkland Island resident
Dr Barry Elsby born UK long term Falkland Island resident
Mike Summers born Falkland Islands
Gavin Short born Falkland Islands
Jan Cheek born Falkland Islands
Roger Edwards born UK long term Falkland Island resident
Sharon Halford born Falkland Islands
Ian Hansen born Falkland Islands”.
@10
You need elementary lessons in Mathematics
5/8 MLA's born in the Falkland Islands.
That's a majority of Falkland Island born MLAs.
8 does not=13.
Learn some basic Mathematics.
With no treaties with the UK or FI, then yes, it will be a long time, since you will have no legal worming your way into our territory. You would have to outright invade/attack.
Really? We told them to stuff it deep when they were attacked in WWII and “demanded” we fight for them, hahahaha.
Mengel, Eichmann, and Barbie were certainly pleased about that valiant stand.
I mentioned that Cebu, Philippines developed such land exporting BANANAS...
Is just about time that the islanders make their mind up...what to do...what to do...a little bit of fishing...a little bit of petroleum...a little bit of tourism..
funny less.
Then again, CFK has a good relationship with other South American countries,
You don’t hear the brits getting all upset,
Do you?
.
But you are really upset, witness the Assange case. Britain hates it!
I remember the american oil workers in my hometown were not welcome because of their living standards: lack of manners, drinking alcohol while at work and driving, not respecting women, etc.
Argentinians are proud to be independent people.
Buenos Aires is number 4 having the most beautiful women in the world.
And the argentine food....yes, the best.
98
We are not at fault,
And as I said last week, and will repeat it,
No one can or will interfere with British law,[except UCHR]
And this man, will be sent to Sweden,
Unless Sweden drops the charges,
As for South America,
There is nothing that they can do about it, either collectively or individually.
.
Your brave and [insert other nationalistically positive adjectives here] government unilaterally laid claim to basically all of our south atlantic territories but even with the promise of assistance from your fascist German and Italian friends you were too cowardly to try your luck at any military action.
Then march 1945 comes round and Argtardia realises it's backed the wrong side and “declares war” on germany but again you're too cowardly to follow through on that with any substantive action.
As usual, argentina backs the losing side, talks big, beats it's scrawny chest then plays the victim. Same story since 1816 lol.
Oh, well. ...the typical british defensive tactics to defend themselves trying to make me feel “less”..
Such cowards!
The argentines
And the
Germans
Had more in common than we first thought.
The whole thing of Argentina declaring war on Germany could well have been part of their plan,
To move Germans to Argentina and safety,
Whilst pretending to be enemies.
You just never know what politicians get up to, when they are desperate,
Or in this case, German military.
Just a thought.
still,
it was a good film ...
Sussie the cunt is back again, spouting her nonsense and wondering why people insult her. Soak the corn husks before making the tamales or they will burn and you won't get your 2$ for a days work. Back in B.A. I see, or is that still in B.A.
Moron!
On that basis we should throw half the nations out of the UN.
Such irony! Or was it idiocy ??
You can all cry the contrary till the end of the Earth, but the fact is Argentina was neutral up until 1945 when it symbollically declared war to be part of the UN founding body. It was all for our own interests, not to help the Axis or the Allies.
Or you people think we were going to help Europe, we were loving it how you bastards were blowing each other up.
Your 'symbollic' declaration of war was noted by the winners - who have treated as you deserved ever since !
Ooh, have we ever cared? hahaha
It only speaks how rancorous of a race you are, such a low trait for anyone to have :)
ps- No Jews moved to Argentina in 1945 then?
What is wrong with you?
You wallow in self-pity.
lf its any consolation we only think of Argentina as an enemy of the Falklands.
l really don't care what you get up to otherwise.
Are you a masochist? Do you revel in playing the victim?
You need to jerk yourself into gear, my man/woman(?)
Get out a bit more often & DRINK MORE COFFEE.♥
It has sauna etc etc for residents.
Restaurant is very good actually! uses fresh food sourced from Europe-S America and USA.
High rise apartments- why do we need them anyway - we have plenty of space for building and lower blends better into the natural environment- you see we value our tourist attractions.
House values - yes I can think of quite a few well over US$200,000!
Do get a life and check facts mate.
At last the MLA's have come out of hibernation and telling the world the truth about the Falklands.
This year involving Mike Summers facing the world's press at the United Nations was WAY WAY overdue but Argentina's recent belligerence has released the cat out of the bag as the MLA's justify their position to the world. If Argentina had kept quiet the world would be more inclined to believe their one-sided story but now the genie is out of the bottle, or the wasps are swarming out of the nest, whatever metaphor is chosen.
The world's people now can look forward to a two sided view as I hope the MLA's will attend more South American events, UN events and get their asses on more TV interviews around the world.
The Argentines, by blockading the Falklands, have ensured there is less likelihood of votes in the referendum to select Argentine sovereignty.
They can wail all they like about whatever will result, but despite their likely action of burying their head in the sand and ignoring the result, the islanders will continue to increase influence, steadily and surely.
What a clown!
Sussie the cunt, your tacos are burning!
www.facebook.com/Britain1592
www.facebook.com/BOTUK1
And if you believe that, you'll believe anything...
Malicious bloke must be Greek yoghurt?
as usual you have got your facts wrong!
”“The UN has never ever referred to us as people enjoying the right of self determination. The UN does not even keep into account our wishes, but we don't care. Because we don't give a dime what the UN says. We don't behave democratically in the international arena. We rule. And we do what we want because we can. So you respect the self determination WE understand e have, or we'll bomb you. That's it”.
I'm a bit confused. That sounds like a quote from Argentina, not UK or Falklands.
What is your point?
Hey tell me your real neame, location and phone number. I want your head spin 100 times.
Sussie the cunt, nope!
mixed up boy,
Check out the reviews of YOUR home,
at least the address in Arizona USA, that you defiantly tell us you live at.
Unless that is a lie...
“bugs, drugs, Argie slugs , all in this review of your home:
local.yahoo.com/info-20052499-arbour-park-tempe”
@48 2012 /sussie
“Can you find a decent hotel,
Can you find a decent restaurant,
Can you find a community college, in Sussie's neighbourhood????
NO!
NO!
NO!!!
None of these things are in the slum neighbourhood that Sussie/Sergio lives in!
Can you find an apartment building in Sussie's neighbourhood? The answer is YES, a flea pit !!!
You must live in misery. How is your ”gender identity” crisis??
As usual, this has nothing to do with the Falklands, but we can all see that the Islanders live a better life than you and many Argentinians
LOL LOL LOL LOL
l thought that Malvina was an old Scottish name?
You should know if you are Scottish.
Isolde is right, Malvina is a Gaelic Scottish name meaning beautiful brow or forehead.
Perhaps you are not as Scottish as you would have everyone believe.
However, the point is that Argentina can no longer pedal it's lies on the international stage, because the Falklanders will always be there to refute their claims. Argentina's attempts to blockade the Islands has shown the world what Argentine 'peace' really is - aggression.
And when the referendum is held next year, it's over for Argentina's erroneous claims, and the muppets in charge already know this. Hence they're running around trying to discredit the result of a referendum that hasn't even happened yet.
The name Malvina comes from Celtic or German origin and is often translated as “breathing sweetness from her eyes”. It may come from the Scots Gaelic words maol mhìn, meaning “beautiful face/forehead”. The name as Malwine could be show its origins from the German mal win ovvero “friend of justice” or “the one who protects laws”.
More likely it's just further evidence that the whole Malvinas neurosis is of relatively recent invention.
When the hotel changed hands about 8 years ago the new owners considered changing the name but in the end stayed with what they had. If my memory serves me correctly they even had a competition for people to choose potential new names.
If I owned it I would keep the name just to give you Malvinistas something to talk about.
I have no idea. Why don't you just read this and then come up with a better explanation if yo have one.
www.malvinahousehotel.com/index.php?page=history
What's more interesting is that calling either your daughter or a hotel Malvina in the Falklands in the 1880s wasn't apparently controversial. I can't see anybody doing it now.
Aye right, it was a popular name but not connected to a name they all must have known was an alternative name for the Islands! Maybe it just wasn't seen as such an emotive alternative back then...
Which is exactly what I said. And which suggests in turn that Malvinaitis was not a common disorder in the 1880s. And this despite the fact that the 1833 outrage must have been much fresher in the memory. Funny, that.
Think, when you were still a young fella back in the 40s was there hysteria amongst a small minority of you then like there is now about a mythical place called the Malvinas?
And if the Chief Liar answers you, you will believe him?
LOL
I just won't be able to rest until I know what Think does. Will he answer me and put me in my place or will he classify me a Turnip- again- and pretend to ignore me.
Anyway, while I'm struck paralysed with fear I need to have a shower and get ready to be taken out and wined and dined once again in this very pleasant little city. I'm sure that my fellow Falkland Islanders will enjoy dealing with these people once it is all set up.
You are completely right. It is terribly sad. We have many people from all of those countries living amongst and many Falkland Islanders live in those countries. Trade over the years has been worthwhile for ALL involved.
Or that it wasn't seen so much as one by the Islanders? Perhaps all the way up to Galtieri? I'm just speculating but it would make sense, no?
The Grigio and Domain high rise apartments are full due to 12,000 students enrolled at the Arizona State University and Gateway Community College. The Arbour Park is one of the oldest buildings
under remodeling and the only one that had a vacancy.
Drug related issues are found all around USA apartments. But, if a tenant is found using drugs is evicted within 24 hours.
What it takes my attention that the islanders don't have enough manpower to develop their islands.
Tourists always look for a good place to rest and a good restaurant to eat.
Even the japanese tourists here in Tempe likes the mexican food...
you can see that the isalnders simply don't have the money and “taste”
on how to develope the islands.
I mention Cebu, Philippines have the best hotels, casinos and restaurants all thanks to their BANANAS export and tourism!
I would imagine that the islanders didn't feel so threatened in the 1880s, given the treaty of perfect friendship signed in 1850 and the absence of any protest from Buenos Aries. Galtieri wasn't born until 1926, and it appears the Malvinista cult only arose some time after that again. So no special significance to calling your daughter Malvina and then naming your hotel after her.
The only other use of the name I am aware of is Argentine Olympian Carola Malvina López Rodríguez, named by her father in honour of the 1982 invasion (442.perfil.com/2012-08-10-144897-malvina-queria-triunfar-en-londres/).
Funny way to name a girl, in my view, I never heard of any British ones called “Operation Overlord” or “Trafalgar” or “Waterloo” or anything. Squares or stations, ok, why not, but girls?
You are still coming from B.A. Why do you keep saying you are from Tempe?
victor/victoria
Of course there are nice places in Tempe, but you live in a crime-ridden slum, instead. Very cheap rent, I'm sure.
I have no doubt that people use drugs there, but kicked out the next day??? You make me laugh!!
How are the beautiful stores nearby? Do the Japanese tourists enjoy shopping at “Bob's Tire Coral” and “Modern World Adult Boutique”??
Where would you find the “tasty Tacos” you speak of, in other threads??
Is there fine dining somewhere near the storage lockers, empty lot, or the police station??
At least, in your apartment, the drug dealers deliver...
You've shown us that you have no understanding of the Falklands, but I'm sure their life is better than yours!
LOL LOL LOL !!!
You are not fooling anyone. :-)
There is no doubt ... that the UN has listed the Falklands as a non self-governing territory of the United Kingdom.
Totally false. Just read the Resolution 2065 of the UN to realize that is a territory to colonize and Decolonization Committee resolutions of the UN.
.... But the fact is that we have our own government and democracy that decides everything to do with the Falklands, so they are autonomous and therefore not a colony ....
Totally false and irrelevant. They can not be British in Argentine territory. The specificity of the Malvinas is that the United Kingdom occupied the islands by force in 1833, expelled the original population and did not allow their return, thus violating the territorial integrity of Argentina. Therefore, the possibility remains of the principle of self-determination, as its exercise by the islanders, cause the “disruption of the national unity and territorial integrity” of Argentina. In this regard it should be noted that Resolution 1514 (XV) “Declaration on the Granting of Independence to Colonial Countries and Peoples” in the sixth paragraph states that “Any attempt aimed at the partial or total disruption of the national unity and territorial integrity of a country is incompatible with the purposes and principles of the Charter of the United Nations. ”
... So tell me, if you are totally against his theory that the Falklands are a colony of Britain, why support the islands become a colony of Argentina? .....
This profoundly wrong. They can not be British in Argentine territory. The islands are now usurped and occupied by British colonial administration in 1833. The concept of colonialism is caused by illegal British occupation in 1833. They can never become a colony Argentina. Repair is national unity and territorial integrity of Argentina. To restore to the original owners of the islands (Argentina) is being met with the purposes and principles of the Charter of the United Nations. Thank you very much.
“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.” Joseph Goebbels.
I wonder whether you are a victim or an agent of the Argentine lie?
Raul,
and speaking of lies, have you managed to come up with any evidence that the 1833 expulsion of the original population actually took place yet? Failing that, Argentina's legal title to the territory would also help sustain your argument.
But of you haven't got either, you've got nothing.
Isolde needs the “courtesy stiches” very badly...
she mentioned she has children ....
that's why she touch her toes for the rubbish bloody english men.
That's is the way she feels “wanted” and demands be known as a “Mrs.”
She is not an independent woman.
She is very insecure...and sounds Ynsere-ly
Skare...
like the Three Faces of Eve...
She needs help like Prince Harry addiction to sex...in Las Vegas, USA.
Is obvious that she cannot understand the USA business zoning permits all kind of business in certain non-residential areas.
The 12,000 students attending the Arizona State University and Gateway Community College are mature individuals that enjoy the irish pub cross the street and mature book readings. This is their choice.
But, casinos my favorite spot,
are only approved by each State law be built in Indian Reservation land.
The Islanders internet “shows” only 3 girls showing their bottoms for “fun”? jejeje .
Yes, Isolde needs help.......... she keeps posting under Ynsere-ly Skare
and
most of the UK team do the same tricks...jejejeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Conquereror is Captain Poppy and insists he is married to an “argentine woman” jejejeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Zhivago.......poor wimp he does not dare to respond my comments I post in
The Economist...jejejeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Who cares about pirates and LIARS!!Their times are limited.....
MALVINAS ARGENTINAS! Down with the brits pirates!!
A tip for you. Keep posting amongst 2012, SussieUS, Sussana Brown, SusannaUSA's posts. She makes you look a little more sane.
Old rubbish bloody Joe Bloggs vents from his ARSE again!
jejeje
Why should the Falkland Islanders negotiate anything with Argentina? After wll, that 'minor' power still frightens the socks off the Argentine military, doesn't it?
Pathetic.
Hindot mo gago. (filipino-look it up) puke mo dilat. tanga.
l bet you that l have more fun than you do.!!! you know what sort of fun, don't you soozybum?
l only post under one name, not like you. You're a wackjob, but its entertaining reading your ridiculous posts.
Pray continue.
OR is it because all of you are so bloody jealous of just what we have in our Country. We are actually living in the present century with every bit of modern technology available to us. There are almost two cars per person. Everyone pretty much has mobile phones as well as access to the internet. We do not have unemp. We are rated as one of the top Countries in the world to visit , Argentina does not even come close to that . We don't trash each others homes as Argentines did when they so call came to liberate us in 1982. But above all we have a first class education system which is something Argentina has not otherwise we would not be seeing these deranged people putting such comments on any of the topics on Mercopress.
To sum it up That is why we are where we are today. Argentina is so backward it is trying to drag us down with it. Time now to start growing up and move forward with the succesfull ones Argentina. If your people spent as much effort in putting your own house in order as you do slagging the Islanders Argentina would be today a great Country. But untill you start changing you will stay the same. Stuck in your lost world.
AHAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Who cares,about your opinion.Argentina is doing far better than bankrupt uk.....uk 2,8 million unemployed,running out of oil......Leave uk for Asia and drop the pound....
Incredible stup-id these MAlvinenses....living in fairy land..
Sep 11th, 2012 - 12:35 pm
SSSSShhhhhh Malvinero1, INDEC has published the latest OFFICIAL employment/unemployment figures for Argentina:
There are 1.49 million unemployed out of a population of 45 million.
I think it would be a good idea not to crow too much about unemployment!!!!!!
I have no fault that you submit the Nazis. Would you ask the same question?
Do you do the victim or never studied history? Make an effort, study and listen to other versions.
Just read the resolution 2065 (XX) of 1965, ratified by later resolutions 1973 (3160, XXVIII) 1976 (31/49), 1982 (37/9), 1983 (38/12), 1984 (39/6) , 1985 (40/21), 1986 (41/40), 1987 (42/19) and 1988 (43/25). They all declare the existence of a sovereignty dispute. No self-determination.
World public opinion and the resolutions of the UN General Assembly and the Decolonization Committee of the UN do not lie. They have an international reputation.
153 HansNiesund
You lie. You're afraid of the truth and reality affronts. Never read the links I gave you.
Never read the facts and evidence of true Argentine arguments. I'm not going to be your job for you.
Back to collide with one stone and do not want to face.
On the official website of the Decolonization Committee of the UN is very clear in its resolutions.
1 - All development, analysis, facts and evidence was studied and analyzed by the committee of the UN decolonization. And in doing so had access to documents and evidence of many Argentine and British. This occurred prior to resolution 2065 (XX) of 1965, ratified by later resolutions. Finally the commission ruled in favor of the Argentine arguments. It was found that a sovereignty dispute. In reaching this conclusion was based on several arguments. Among them, the expulsion of 1833 again in the committee comprovado descolonizción UN in its resolution of 14 June 2012.
2 - You Tenee into account the historical and social processes of the time in 1833 that is where the conflict arises sovereignty. No self-determination. Historical evidence is inconclusive. The conflict developed in the context of colonialism and imperialism that continues today English more diminished. Example: humanitarian bombing civilians in Libya, Iraq and Afghanistan, as well as economic colonialism.
When you hear the Syrians lecture about human rights then you know it's “game over”. Argentina (via the extraordinary personal visit of CFK) had no business hi-jacking the committee to try and publicise a sovereignty dispute (and was told as such by the chair prior to the meeting - there is an item about it in MercoPress). After the referendum, the Falklands will have nothing more to do with C24 - it is out dated. “Decolonization” should be replaced with the term “self determination” - then we'd all be happy wouldn't we? ;-)
Even with their continual scratched record repeating 'UN Resolutions' the Malvinistas miss the bit where Independence is the UN's required solution to colonialism (Falklands get more autonomy with every new constitution), and the most important one, 'the islanders interests', ie it is clearly not in their interests to be a colony of Argentina.
I don't really understand your point, but that might be on account of language. But do you deny that there are a number of similarities between the current government of Argentina and the Nazis in the 1930s?
Tsk, tsk, no need to get shirty. I've only asked you to come up with some evidence in support of the contention you keep making. Curiously, there is none I can find on any Argentine official or unofficial site, including the links you gave me, and the evidence that does exists strongly indicates there was no expulsion at all.
I'm sure you'll agree it would be shocking if it turned out that the UN was misled back in the 1960s, that could invalidate your whole case. And I'm sure you'de be embarassed yourself if it turned ut you'de been inadvertently propagating falsehoods on mercopress. I'm sure you wouldn't want that to happen.
And speaking of negotiation and the UN could you tell me if the Argentine position has evolved any since this :
“Argentinean Sovereignty over the Malivinas is not negotiable. That is the starting point of negotiation.” (Dante Caputo, Argentine Foreign Minister, 13 November, 1983. Quoted in House of Commons Foreign Affairs Committee, 1983-4, Report, Vol. 2, p 149)
If this is still the Argentine line, please explain also what “negotiation” means in Argentina, since it seems to have a different meaning there from that commonly understood in the rest of the world.
Las Vegas, Nevada USA
12:07 pm
la putisima madre que te pario!
You are worthless!
drop dead, miedosa y asquerosa!
“look at me !! Look at me!!”
Ha ha, can't hear anything. Nobody is listening.
Yes.
You said I am the best.
Ahhh! Are you feeling a bit upset Mr Hunter? Does it annoy you that every attempt made by Argentina and its government has failed miserably to challenge the islands in any way? Invasion, suppression, isolation etc. All failures and the islands are still British. No doubt that you will reply with some comment aimed at pedophile and other nonsense because you cant come up with a response as you know the truth.
I can't believe it!
Isolde responding under the name of Conor Louden-Brown...
jaaaaaaaaaaaaaajaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaajaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Eh, what???? AS I said in the other article That name is made up, its Conor J see if you can guess the J?
LOL
“Preciosa” (Tea Cosy), is of course, Susana Brown of the USA
He's desperate to get a reaction, now!
LOL LOL
LOL
This web page is Port-A-John
Enjoy the smell!
lol
and this post is Sussie Preciosa's...
Pederast, definition:
ped·er·ast (p d -r st ). n. A man who has sexual relations, especially anal intercourse, with a boy.
CFK is screwing Sussie at the same time LOL
The rubbish bloody english people known worlwide as be generic gay britons!
I am a woman living in Las Vegas Nevada USA.
No one of you have the opportunity to have the fun I have, casinos, good food and easy money from casinos...
You guys, UK military men have to work for the next 25 years as servants for the USA goverment!
The USA goverment use you as servants to protect me here in the USA.
jeeeeeeeeeeeeeejeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeejeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Doesn't sound too flashy, :-D
1901 Apache Drive, Arbour Park apts.
local.yahoo.com/info-20052499-arbour-park-tempe
l'm sure that Soozy isn't the full quid.
Maybe the Argentine secret service has wound her up just to see what damage she can do.
Actually she gives the impression that she doesn't care about the Falklands in the same way that the malvinistas do.
Wackjob.
Just a point, if we are all gay, where do all the babies come from ?
My rudimentary understanding of Biology is that it takes a male and female to produce offspring. Do they do this differently in Argentina?
Did that well known German immigrant, Dr. Mengele come up with a new method.
If your idea of “fun” is casinos and easy money, then it proves how shallow you are.
Take and give nothing back.
#183
If you are interested you can use Google Earth to see a street view of the address. It looks pretty average to me.
Notice the surroundings Clyde. It is located in a Light Industrial Commercial area. If you look up and down the street, it is surrounded by a warehouse, railway tracks, a storage yard, trailer park, an 'adult' porn shop , a police station, and a few rundown houses behind those.
Definitely below average.
Then read the reviews in the link - poorly maintained and bug infested, the building is full of drug dealers too.
Sussie insists he lives here. If true, it's a far cry from “the good life”. If he actually lives in BA, where his posts seem to emanate from, according to Zhivago, then he is lying about living in the US
- Important Bird Area Designation For South Georgia
- Three Caught In Avalanche
- Confiscated Fish Funds Fight Against Illegal Fishing
- Giant Berg
- South Georgia Heritage Trust Newsletters
- Retreat Of South Georgia’s Glaciers
- A Field Guide To The Wildlife Of South Georgia
- Fishing And Shipping News
- Blue Whales - New Stamp Issue
- Ducking Off Course
- Macquarie’s Dogs Hunt Rabbits Not Penguins
- Bird Island Diary
- South Georgia Snippets
- Dates for Your Diary
www.sgisland.gs/index.php/(h)South_Georgia_News_and_Events
www.sgisland.gs
Perhaps they are getting a good cuff over the back of the head at a Motivational Meeting with La Campora!
However, we can still see Sussie/2012 on TV, dressed as CFK
#2 Check out this video on YouTube:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIt1wWHDST8&feature=youtube_gdata_player
VIVA SUSSIE/CFK !! LOL
Hey, I am in Las Vegas, Nevada, USA
Casino's life style: good food, easy monies from slots machine!
Viva me! Preciosa mujer argentina!
Feel sorry for the UK team lifestyle...
Sussie 2012 at the Casino:
www.google.ca/search?hl=en&sky=mrdr&q=old+lady+Vegas+image&oq=old+lady+Vegas+image&gs_l=mobile-gws-serp.12...247480.268266.0.270731.34.28.0.0.0.4.394.5667.1j11j8j5.25.0...0.0...1ac.1.LVrZqdI27s0#miuv=3
VIVA SUSSIE 2012
Intresting the raf drone pilots are based just outside silly barstards wear flight suits while operating a drone from an office block.:)
Commenting for this story is now closed.
If you have a Facebook account, become a fan and comment on our Facebook Page!