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Falklands Tourist Board ‘disappointed’ by political pressure at BA Seatrade

Friday, September 21st 2012 - 06:31 UTC
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Political pressure on organisers of the Seatrade South America convention held in Buenos Aires, Argentina, last week meant the Falkland Islands was ignored during discussions as a tourist destination in the region. Read full article

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  • briton

    You don’t need them,

    Get up your own trade with companies that want a real holiday, not a political jaunt,

    More you do, the less they will matter,

    As drake would say,
    Why go to the poor mainland,
    When paradise is nearer.

    Sep 21st, 2012 - 11:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Searinox

    haha you wanted to set a precedent in a summit, and we stop it...we told you, we will not give you the slightest chance...

    Sep 21st, 2012 - 12:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • gustbury

    When flying the flag of Argentina there, will come much tourism

    Sep 21st, 2012 - 12:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @3 Oh dear, you are living in a fantasy world. That will never happen.

    You do know that Santa Claus does not exist, don't you?

    Sep 21st, 2012 - 01:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • deutscher

    Is This Mr. Mason descendant from the one that was living in the 1830 's ?

    Sep 21st, 2012 - 01:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • gustbury

    everything comes Elaine,patience!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Sep 21st, 2012 - 01:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @6 You can wait until the end of time..... nothing has changed and nothing will change.

    Sep 21st, 2012 - 02:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Islas Malvinas

    South America recognizes Malvinas as an integral part of the argentine territory. It´s logical that what Buenos Aires has to say regarding the islands is taken into account.

    Maybe you can bring tourists from Europe... via Ascension Islands or something...

    Sep 21st, 2012 - 03:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GastonBaires

    Nothing has changed...

    Argentina does what is convenient for Argentina and made on all fronts and on all fronts, this includes resources to Las Malvinas.
    If the UK is going to want to have some benefits, will have to do concessions.

    Sep 21st, 2012 - 03:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    This is just more evidence that Argentina is a vindictive bully.
    As Briton says, you don't need them and if you can do without them and find customers regardless, it will make Argentina irrelevent. Argentina are again cutting their nose off to spite their face in which they will lose financially.
    @2
    A tiny insignificant victory for an impotent bully. This makes a mockery of Argentine claims that the Falkland Islands need South America to exist.

    They don't.

    Inconvinience like this will lead to more Falkland Islands autonomy and stronger links with the rest of the world whilst Argentina becomes the world expert on navel gazing.

    Sep 21st, 2012 - 03:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    “All of the countries involved in the cruise tourism industry are important and no one should be excluded or ignored”
    Malvinas is part of Argentina and Argentina was included of course.

    Sep 21st, 2012 - 03:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GastonBaires

    Oh please Mr. Pete Bong.
    Your comments are much more like MP news. more wishes than realities!

    Sep 21st, 2012 - 03:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Benson

    Saying it doesn't make it true Marcos. You may belive that the Falklands are part of Argentina but for all practical purposes we are not.

    Sep 21st, 2012 - 03:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Islas Malvinas

    @11 That´s right.

    Sep 21st, 2012 - 04:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • toooldtodieyoung

    10 Pete Bog

    What they think they are doing to the Flakland Islands is only more damaging to themselves. They need the Falkalnds more than the falklamds needs them.

    They may think that they have won a small victory and impacted on the economy of the Falklands but really, they are just pushing their own economy further and futher down the U bend.

    If they want to do that then who are we to stop them for doing it? they will come with their cap-in-hand soon enough.......

    Sep 21st, 2012 - 04:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • 2012

    @ 1 briton “stupid child”
    You see.....no money...no class...keep the Islas Malditas in your ARSE!
    jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeejeeeeeeeeeeeeeeejeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

    Sep 21st, 2012 - 05:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @1, 10 I agree with both of you. It is good to see the Falkland Islands has picked up on something that was said when the FCO was conducting its Overseas Territories consultation. The Falklands should tell its own story and, if cruising trade is wanted, look for cruise lines that currently operate around southern Africa and want to branch out. South-west from southern Africa to Antarctica then west to the South Shetland Islands, north to the Falklands, east to South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands then back to southern Africa. Prices need to be kept reasonable. Fuel supplies are also important. There should be fuelling points on all those islands. Accommodation shouldn't be much of a problem. “Cruisers” have their ship! There needs to be land and water local transport. Maybe even local air transport. All at very reasonable prices. Profit margins may be tight, but South America needs to be avoided. Even ashore keep prices low. Remember how much people have paid just to get there! Don't turn them off by trying to rip them off. Remember to include battlefield tours. Just imagine how the latinos will be so pleased for you as they see you making an incredible success and know that they are getting NOTHING! Maybe you could persuade the British forces to demonstrate some of their equipment. But only to “friendly” visitors. I would visit if the price was right! And I'd want to see Pebble Island, Fanning Head, Darwin, Goose Green, San Carlos Water, Ajax Bay, Port San Carlos, Mount Longdon, Two Sisters, Mount Harriet, Tumbledown, Wireless Ridge, Sapper Hill and Stanley. Then there's the wildlife. Small parties, not coaches. I remember all the pictures etc. from the South Atlantic in '82. I'd like to see it all myself before I kick off. So hurry!

    Sep 21st, 2012 - 05:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    2012, or whoever you are impersonating,
    If you have nothing better to say, than the bile that you sprout, then you should not spout at all,
    Then perhaps your tongues ,will withdraw,
    [and only 100 days to go]

    Grow up,
    //////////////////////////////////////
    As for the rest of the vile Argies,
    Thousands of decent Argentineans and others read these bloggs,
    And listening to your bile , threats , abuse , intimidation ,
    One would have to wonder why the free world even tolerates you,

    If it wasn’t for the decent Argentineans, you and your corrupt CFK would have
    Gone long ago,
    As the world sees, the Falklands and the brits want to be friends and live peaceful in harmony,
    ,,,,,,,
    But you just want to destroy everything , you either cant have legitimately, or steal,
    Shame on you,

    Still,

    When you put your tongues away,
    Come out from behind your skirts,

    We can deal with this like gentlemen.
    Still, 2
    But you won’t will you,
    You will just carry on insulting,
    And hiding behind your dresses….

    .

    Sep 21st, 2012 - 08:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • 2012

    @18 briton Jack the Ripper

    Too late for you rubbish bloody english arse
    to blame someone
    pay attention,
    no ones wants the rubbish bloody english people
    the falkloosers are morons
    and
    never will make it
    in such Islas Malditas,
    blaming my country
    won't do any good
    the folkloosers are rubbish bloody
    english people
    that's is why my country
    is
    anti-british
    the rubbish bloody english people
    like to insult anyone from
    Argentina
    read Conqueror/Captain Poppy
    comments,
    what a wimp!
    So, everything will stay
    the falkloosers will remain
    in the Islas Malditas
    and I will see them
    the same,
    retards english people!

    Sep 21st, 2012 - 08:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    Well there you go,
    the voice of the people,
    ,,,,,,,,,,,,,

    shame on you.

    Sep 21st, 2012 - 08:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Islander1

    Searinox-Gustbury-Is.Malv-Gaston-Marcos-2012
    Oh what vitri0lic Twaddle and Tripe you all speak!

    Do then explain to me Why is it that this year we have 5 vessels doing International Passenger cruise exchanges this coming summer - using the scheduled Lan flight even though it is fixed date does not offer them the flexibility of a charterflight?
    Hell- one of the vessels is even called mv USHUAIA!! - She will of course as a civilian vessel be flying the courtesy flag of the country port she is visiting, as do all vessels.
    How do you explain our growing landbased tourist trade where folks come here for 7-10-14 days travelling around the Islands staying in wildlife lodges and hotels?
    We now need to build more hotels and lodges to cater for the demand.
    When a large vessel with 2500 passenger capacity was denied entrance to Ushuaia last year if it visited Stanley - what did that vessel do?
    Did it drop the Falklands and go to Ushuaia??
    I recall it dropped Ushuaia (and your tourist businesses lost many thousands of dollars) - went to Stanley - and - Punta Arenas in Chile!

    You are so full of fantasy and vitriol! Just like those who claimed victory when our parliamentarians went to the Panamerican summit - you claimed they were stopped from addressing the conferences - you and I know the truth of course- they were never intending to and could not anyway as the Falklands are not members of that association (yet) and were invited as observers ! And that is what they did - observed the lunacy of Arg actions - and met and talked to senior politicians of all other nations there except I think Columbia.

    Did you close down the Falklands prescence at Seatrade? -- No

    Did you prevent them from talking business with cruise operators - No

    Lots of Argentine delegates talked to them as well!

    So grow up folks!

    Sep 21st, 2012 - 08:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    It doesn't really matter what the Argentineans say in Argentina.

    They were bound to use all they could muster to berate the Falklands (there are STILL no Malvinas) on their own turf.

    Next year will see another location for the trade jamboree and Argentina's childlike actions will simply be ignored, just like they were this last year when cruise ships still visited the islands and then went on to Chile.

    Once the financial crash comes AG will be isolated completely, which after all is what they SAY they want.

    Although I live in Uruguay and a crash for Argentina is going to impinge on us as well I cannot wait for it to happen and the resulting government change take place.

    Better the unknown than TMBOA.

    Sep 21st, 2012 - 08:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GastonBaires

    Oh please Chris, you have to read more.
    Argentina wont crash it will grow this year between 2,5 % and 3% and next year will be doing it will be between 4% and 5%.
    Argentina is taking all necessary measures against speculative factors impact and the country is being succeeding. In proportion to Argentina is doing better than Brazil.
    For the other hand, the pressures for the sovereignty claim will increase little by little.

    Sep 21st, 2012 - 10:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • WestisBest

    @3

    The white one?

    Sep 21st, 2012 - 10:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    @12
    “Your comments are much more like MP news. more wishes than realities!”

    1.Argentina is a vindictive bully=reality, (This is not a wish by the way). But try as they might to bully the Falkland Islands the FIs elder brother the UK can kick the crap out of Arg. if 1982 happens again.

    2.you don't need them and if you can do without them and find customers regardless, it will make Argentina irrelevent. =Earlier this year Argentina stopped a cruise ship that had visited Stanley landing in Ushaia-so it continued the cruise to Chile instead= This is not a wish, it is reality.

    3.On the same thread, Argentina pulled out of an oil sharing agreement that may have resulted in them providing oil facilities for the Falkland oil fields and benefitting financially but that has not stopped hydrocarbon exploration as the Falkland Islands do not need Argentine facilities to handle the hydrocarbons=Not a wish but reality.

    4.Argentina are again cutting their nose off to spite their face in which they will lose financially=This is not a wish as I would not object to Argentina benefitting from Falkland islands wealth if they were decent to the Islanders, but the reality is that Argentinas bullying has cost them (not the FIs) money=reality.
    5.A tiny insignificant victory for an impotent bully=reality.

    6.This makes a mockery of Argentine claims that the Falkland Islands need South America to exist=reality.

    7.Inconvinience like this will lead to more Falkland Islands autonomy and stronger links with the rest of the world= Any bonehead can see that sticking their rheas head in the sand and pretending the Islanders do not exist means Argentina are forcing the FIs to have stronger links with the UK and the outside world and weaker ones with South America-to the financial detriment of South America, except for Chile who are deservedly making £millions out of the FI. This is not a tenous wish-it is actually happening, therefore it is a reality.

    Sep 21st, 2012 - 10:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GastonBaires

    My god.
    Mr. bong you are watching trees and not the whole bush. Argentina is not bulling the Islanders.
    Argentina is doing what is convinint to Argentina. Nothing personal with other!
    Have a nice evening!

    Sep 21st, 2012 - 11:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JimLad

    @ GastonBaires #26

    You're half right there. Argentina IS doing what is convenient for Argentina. Unfortunately, bullying their smaller neighbour (the Falkland Islands) IS what is convenient for Argentina.

    Sep 22nd, 2012 - 01:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • puerto argentino

    @11
    Marcos, you right
    Malvinas is part of Argentina and Argentina was included of course!!! No more comments!!!

    Sep 22nd, 2012 - 05:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • WestisBest

    @11 & 28

    Yeah right, so how did Argentina address industry issues pertaining to your 'Malvinas'? you don't have any say about what goes on in the Falklands. Your governments jingoistic posturing has just made Argentina look stupid and weak yet again, cretins.

    Sep 22nd, 2012 - 09:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    At the end of the day,
    the falklands will grow,

    and argentina will shrink to a very powerfull 4th rated mouth piece.

    mmmm

    Sep 22nd, 2012 - 10:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @23 Boatings Arse

    Double the strength of the pills you are taking if you seriously believe the drivel in 23.

    Unlike you I can actuall understand finance and the impolications it has to any country. Denying how serious the problems are will not make them go away.

    When the IMF eventually cans your shoddily run country for the lies it uses to reduce the rate it pays on bonds then amounts owing to bond holder will crush your 'economy'.

    But I forget, you will just refuse to pay the bond holders their money AND that will finish you.

    Perhaps your new found mates the Chin will come and buy up Argentina and then you will find out you will have new masters. AND they will be your masters.

    Sep 22nd, 2012 - 11:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • malen

    Isnt that the isles are southatlantic??
    And what happens now, trying to get in SAmerica to criticise Arg???
    Intruders of a BOT coming to SAm to talk bad of Arg, playing the divide and conquer??' We dont want you here. The better of this region is to be united, not to fight. Which country of this region would want an ilegal bot to make travel in SAm??

    Sep 22nd, 2012 - 11:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    @32
    “The better of this region is to be united, not to fight”

    United region eh?

    Paraguay kicked out of OAS

    Argentina wants Chile to give land to Bolivia.

    Argentina imposes strict import tarrifs on its neighbours.

    Chile claims to support Argentina's false claim for the Falklands whilst supplying an air link and allowing cruise ships in that have docked in the Falklands.
    Brazil supports Argentina yet buys state of the art ships from the UK

    “Which country of this region would want an ilegal bot to make travel in SAm??”
    It can't be illegal because Britain claimed it in 1690, that's a long time before Argentina existed (as you don't know this).
    The answer to your question is Chile who run a LANCHILE link to the Falkland Islands and allow cruise ships visiting the Falklands to dock in Chile-as Chile are smart enough to make money from the Falklands with trade, whilst Argentina looses money (Lol).

    Sep 22nd, 2012 - 12:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • malen

    which country of this region would want an ilegal bot to make TROUBLE in SAm??

    Sep 22nd, 2012 - 12:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • TipsyThink

    Go to else whereabouts !

    Sep 22nd, 2012 - 01:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    @34
    The Falkland Islands are not illegal, try colonialist Argentina throwing Amerindians off their land (condemned by your best friends the UN).And that's recently, not the genocide in the 1800s).

    All of the present trouble is caused by Argentina.They stirred it up, they are paying for it as the MLA's finally get their act together.

    However, the UK has a long history of ENDING trouble and illegal invasion (ie Port Egmont 1771 (from Spain), Port Louis 1833 (from the United Provinces of the River Plate) Southern Thule 1976, and in 1982 South Georgia and the Falkland Islands( from Argentina).

    Sep 22nd, 2012 - 06:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    you have to feel sorry for malen,
    living in a cardboard box, cant be nice .

    Sep 22nd, 2012 - 07:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • aussie sunshine

    As I see it at the moment. The Falklanders are totally “divorced” from South America.They are isolated in that vast ocean. Nobody wants to do anything with them.So the way I see it The Falklanders should look elsewhere for business partnerships and other ventures.Good luck and god bless!!

    Sep 22nd, 2012 - 07:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    @38
    “Nobody wants to do anything with them”

    Has Chile ceased trading with the Falkland Islands then?

    LanChile, still flies there apparently.

    “The Falklanders should look elsewhere for business partnerships and other ventures.”
    They have = the USA, France, Italy the UK and Chile and more will come on board to take advantage of trade that Argentina does not want.
    The Falkland Islands are no longer isolated because the world is a smaller place.

    .In ten years time the Briitsh Skylon hypersonic passenger aircraft won't take long to get there.
    Also when St Helena has an airfield the Falklands will be connected even more to the rest of the world.

    Sep 22nd, 2012 - 08:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Frank

    @38 you need new glasses if that is what you see........

    Sep 22nd, 2012 - 08:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • aussie sunshine

    39 Hope this Skylon hypersonic aircraft is better than the concourde!!!

    Sep 22nd, 2012 - 11:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GastonBaires

    Someone here took more whiskey and swear that this time it was not me! I recently for the 4th!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Sep 23rd, 2012 - 04:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Falkland Islands

    @39 what is a Concourde? If you mean Concorde, then it will be very successful just like Concorde was. Just a bit of advice for you, don't get aggressive when you are jealous.

    Sep 23rd, 2012 - 11:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • aussie sunshine

    *43 Concorde was a disaster!! that´s why it´s in a museum at this moment!!

    Sep 23rd, 2012 - 11:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    44 Aussie Raincloud

    As you see it?

    Bit difficult seeing anything from the La Campora bunker in Shit Street in AG?

    Don't you worry what passes as a brain in your little head with the Falklands (there are STILL no Malvinas) they will be fine and even more than fine when all the oil revenue comes ashore.

    When do you think what is left of YPF will actually stop the reduction in flow of the oil and start to increase it? The 12th of Never, perchance? Ha, ha, ha.

    Sep 23rd, 2012 - 02:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    The Concorde,
    Was a great plane?
    Nothing before,
    And nothing since,
    But all good things come to an end,

    What great planes do / has argentina ..?
    .

    Sep 23rd, 2012 - 06:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Rosarino

    In your hands had BLOOD....PENGUIN BLOOD-----

    STOP KILL PENGUINS YOU BASTARDS

    http://www.falklands.net/

    You have money in your pockets but you are kill completly entire populations of penguins-

    This is the way you want your SELF DETERMINATION?

    The penguins are not argentines ;))))

    Sep 23rd, 2012 - 07:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    47
    go back to the gutter, from where you just came,

    just another Anti.

    Sep 23rd, 2012 - 07:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Rosarino

    gracias, saludos a tu venerable madre!

    Sep 23rd, 2012 - 07:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • aussie sunshine

    Didn´t know about the penguins!! how low can you get!!

    stop the starvation now!!

    Sep 23rd, 2012 - 08:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Frank

    RG sunshine is a campora troll..... not a native english speaker...changes tack whenever challenged..... just another RG dropkick...

    Sep 23rd, 2012 - 09:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    @46
    The pampas jet trainer of course (sounds like Pampers to me), and of course the Puke ara.

    Sep 23rd, 2012 - 10:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Steveu

    @44 You may be right - the Vulcan was miles better ;-)

    Sep 23rd, 2012 - 10:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    49 Rosarino
    on the other blogg, you call us your friends,
    ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
    on this blogg you call us, Bastards,

    make ya mind up,
    turn coat, ?

    Sep 23rd, 2012 - 11:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • M_of_FI

    Malen, what are your views on the French colony of French Guyana that is found in the North of South America? Why isn't Argentina on the diplomatic and economic offensive against the French is it is against (so-called) colonies in South America. Especially Guayana, as it is actually governed in France, while the Falklands is actually governed in the Falklands.

    Sep 24th, 2012 - 11:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Benson

    @47 That article is a decade old and a lot has been done since. Penguin numbers have been on the increase for the last few years I belive.

    Sep 24th, 2012 - 02:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ProRG_American

    Just another 1/4” turn of the screws , that's all. Keep it up Argentina. Only positive results will come of this.

    Sep 24th, 2012 - 08:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    @56 Benson

    I'm waiting for them to comment on the Penguin numbers in 1833.

    I find it suprising for the backward looking (one forward gear and four reverse), Malvanistas to mention anything that has happened since 1833. (Unless you count the scratched record that plays the '1965' number).

    Sep 25th, 2012 - 01:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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