MercoPress. South Atlantic News Agency
Venezuela armed forces say they will respect “the decision of the people”
Venezuela’s Bolivarian Armed Forces, FANB, said they are committed to respect “the decision of the people” in the coming presidential election of 7 October but at the same time demanded respect for the institution. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesChavez is going to win, thats what the serious polling suggests - and he always does better than the polling suggests anyway, as his poor support base are less likely to be polled. But he has also already, months ago at the start of the election, made clear he would accept the result if he loses. The opposition are yet to do the same...
Sep 28th, 2012 - 12:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0139,000 troops stationed on polling day! Certainly the sign of a democracy.
Sep 28th, 2012 - 09:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0#2 Democracy must be defended. That is not an abstract sentiment in a place like Venezuela, remember 2002...
Sep 28th, 2012 - 12:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Venezuela. A one-party state. No “opposition” seats in the National Assembly. Human Rights Watch expelled in 2008. Democracy has lost in Venezuela. It lost in 1998.
Sep 28th, 2012 - 03:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0BK -
Sep 28th, 2012 - 03:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There is no democracy left in Venezuela.
*nationalizing thousands of companies, Hugo has been able to take the financial power away from the oposition.
*Surpressing the media is another clear sign of a dictator (USA and UK are going this route as well).
*Dissolving other branches of the government to put your own people in
*changing the constitution to allow indefinite elections
If it was a radical right dictator, trust me I would be criticizing them as well. There are no good dictators. FDR was a dictator; he died in office after starting his 4th term! These are bad bad people. Common BK, there has got to be something in that brain of yours that says, “Wait a minute, these are bad people, they are using me, they are rich.” I only ask you to question your own beliefs. Read up on a few things and see maybe you are being blind to the world.
British Kirchnerist,
Sep 28th, 2012 - 04:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0also remember 1992 anti-democratic attempted coups, led by Chavez
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1992_Venezuelan_coup_d'%C3%A9tat_attempts
Supposedly, respecting democracy is not just an ideological point a view.
#5 “FDR was a dictator”
Sep 28th, 2012 - 07:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Lol
*FDR created concentration camps for the AMERICAN CITIZENS of japanese descent; this is in clear violation of the USA constitution.
Sep 29th, 2012 - 07:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0*He used social programs (the New Deal) to “buy” his votes, thus winning 3 elections.
*During 1937 he attempted to add up to 6 Supreme Court justices so that he could rule as he pleased.
Yes I would consider him a dictator, no different than Hugo, CFK, Evo, Putin, Castro, Mugabe, etc.
They will respect the will of the people. BUT.....in the meantime, let's assassinate the opposition activist leaders. That is your idea of democracy BK?
Sep 30th, 2012 - 03:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0Two Venezuelan opposition activists shot dead-Buenos Aires Herald 9/29/12
Gunmen shot and killed two local leaders of parties backing presidential challenger Henrique Capriles today in the worst violence of a volatile campaign before Venezuela's election next weekend, the opposition said.
Capriles' party, Primero Justicia (First Justice), said the gunmen fired from a van that witnesses identified as belonging to state oil company PDVSA or the local mayor's office during a rally in the agricultural state of Barinas.
The government of President Hugo Chavez, who is seeking re-election, confirmed the deaths and vowed the perpetrators would be brought to justice. Interior Minister Tareck El Aissami said the circumstances of the attack were still under investigation.
Venezuela is awash with guns, and violent crime is frequently cited as voters' No. 1 concern.
There had been shootings and fistfights in previous opposition rallies as “Chavistas” and Capriles' supporters clashed, but no deaths.
“This tragedy gives us more strength and faith to fight for a Venezuela where justice and non-violence reign,” Primero Justicia said in a statement. One of the victims was from its party and another from Accion Democratica (Democratic Action).
Another two people were injured, and there were six arrests after the attack on an opposition motorcade that had been blocked by Chavez supporters, Primero Justicia said in an account not confirmed by police or other authorities.
On the campaign trail, Chavez showed off new infrastructure projects in Caracas, while Capriles accused him of wasting Venezuela's money on foreign allies.
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Sep 30th, 2012 - 03:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0*FDR created concentration camps for the AMERICAN CITIZENS of japanese descent; this is in clear violation of the USA constitution.
concentration camps???
lol
wtf you talking about?
#9 Wouldn't be the first time the Venezuelan right shot at its own people to make Chavez look like a criminal dictator, thats what happened at least in 2002 to trigger the coup...
Sep 30th, 2012 - 05:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You should read more about the US Constitution, suspension of civil liberties and the internment camps for the Japanese. Of course you are aware that the USA also aologized and paid almost 2 billion dollars in reparation to those interned. Of course being the US Constitutional scholar that are, you know more about American civil liberties and Constitutional rights that the justices and scholars.
Sep 30th, 2012 - 05:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0BK I expected nothing less from you. You show the blindness of your colors.
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Oct 01st, 2012 - 02:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just Google Japanese concentration camps and you will be able to read all about it. They were called relocation camps but regardless of the name, these were prisons and the captives were never given any trial as is mandatory by the USA constitution under the Bill of Rights. When a government violates its own constitution for whatever reason it may be, then you are becoming a totalitarian state, which the USA did become during FDR's reign.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_American_internment
Trials are not mandatory during war time and you should that if if you know my Costituition so well.......just as habeas corpus can be suspended during wartime. I do not have to lower my standards by reading something from wikipedia to know of Manzanar and the other internment camps...
Oct 01st, 2012 - 04:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0*He used social programs (the New Deal) to “buy” his votes, thus winning 3 elections
Since when did government spending become “buying votes”? We must still be buying votes as we still spend on social programs.
*During 1937 he attempted to add up to 6 Supreme Court justices so that he could rule as he pleased.
Regardlerss what he may have tried, it was the systems of democracy that caused it to fail. You are aware it was denied?
You should go back into the tree from that paricular area of the jungle you climbed out of. Here.....here's a banana. Half a piece of information is more dangerous than no information at all.
FYI:
Quoting wikipedia is like reading comic books and referring to oneself as a literary sponge.
True, wikipedia is not exactly a quality source of information, but it was just to give a general picture of what the camps were all about to Scarfo #10.
Oct 01st, 2012 - 08:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I stand corrected on habeas corpus; the constitution does permit the suspension during war time/rebellion. I guess we couldn't expect that the founding fathers couldn't get everything correct.
When the government creates populist programs like free cell phones to the poor, this has the exact same effect as going out and buying votes. People become dependent on the government and thus the government controls their vote. It is a classic move by populist governments and can easily lead to the ruling party having total power, thus a dictatorship. I believe that FDR reached this point. He was able to rule for so many years because he controlled so much of the economy through the New Deal social programs.
FYI:
Personal attacks only make your arguments seem infantile and pointless.
#14 ”*He used social programs (the New Deal) to “buy” his votes, thus winning 3 elections
Oct 01st, 2012 - 08:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Since when did government spending become “buying votes”? We must still be buying votes as we still spend on social programs”
I agree Poppy, well said. The same argument applies to Chavez and Cristina's social programmes of course =)
2 Clyde15 (#) “139,000 troops stationed on polling day! Certainly the sign of a democracy.”
Oct 01st, 2012 - 10:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ignorance on your part. In most of Latin America, the use of soldiers and sailors to guard polling places is an accepted method of safeguarding polling places form disruption(especially from would be saboteurs and interventionists often voiced in this forum in the name of “democracy” and “colonialism”). There are not enough police to cover every polling palce and the defense forces are placed under civil authority to assist. It is an accepted and expected practice by all parties involved.
Keeeep Learning
define buying votes bk? or another ignored question. asslips literally hands out pesos moron. By that stupid standard of you lack of aactual thinking, the entire world buys votes.
Oct 02nd, 2012 - 12:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0#17
Oct 02nd, 2012 - 10:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0The use of the armed forces says it all !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
In the UK we have one unarmed policeman !
The voters are a bit more militant in south america. They are useless against other armies, but quite effective against civilians.
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