By Jorge Araya - The Argentine president’s misguided perspective threatens her country.
(The following piece was published in the Harvard Crimson from Harvard University. It is considered the US oldest continuously published daily college newspaper, was founded in 1873 and incorporated in 1967). Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment ruleshow very true, only rg's can't see it
Oct 10th, 2012 - 09:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I would say that the little spoiled socialites at Harvard need to get to some into some serious studying and start listening with ears wide open the President teaches them a lesson or two.
Oct 10th, 2012 - 09:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@2
Oct 10th, 2012 - 09:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Good joke :))))
@2 about being ignorant, aloof and full of self importance, whilst playing with other peoples livelyhoods, you wouldn't know though sussie you live in the US
Oct 10th, 2012 - 09:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No Slattzzz in reference to question 2 about how to run an economy! BWHHAHAHAHAH
Oct 10th, 2012 - 09:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If you want a true picture of how Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner operates go to the youtube .dot. com website. Do a search on the following terms kirchner compra votos and you will see an undercover commentary filmed by al-jazeera television on how Cristina Kirchner's government buys votes to keep her in power. After that do a search on this term kirchner acto huracan and you will see video of one of Cristina Kirchner's political rallies, where she uses taxpayers money to fund a huge rally at a rented football stadium to promote herself politically. They pay millions of $$ to bus poor people in from the shantytowns called villas miseria around the country, feed them a sausage sandwich called choripan and give them a drink box of cheap chemically produced wine called tetra and a few pesos to attend. You will see for yourself, it's not to be believed, but this is the corrupt scheme that Crisitina Kirchner uses to stay in power.
Oct 10th, 2012 - 09:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 03 MaxAue (#)
Oct 10th, 2012 - 09:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I am sometimes funny, but on this matter I am deadly serious.
4 slattzzz (#)
Now how the heck is I playing with other peoples livelihood? What people? What I say has no bearing or effect on other peoples livelihood. Get Serious!!
6 KretinaKK (#)
I did see her conference at Harvard on You Tube. Shedid quite well actually. She was courteous, respectful, and answered every question forth wright and with facts. She was on the side of the audience too, she asked for more time from the organizers to allow for more questions to be asked. Now that's self Confidence!
@7
Oct 10th, 2012 - 09:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No you are not - you are hilarious :)
Or else you just made it into http://www.facebook.com/TruthTellingTroll?fref=ts :)
@7 Not you thicko your beloved CFK, read it properly theres a good girl
Oct 10th, 2012 - 10:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0She has surrounded herself with a small circle of laughably incompetent advisors, providing herself with an environment in which no one contests her final word.
Oct 10th, 2012 - 10:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0pretty accurate!!! lol
8 MaxAue (#) ....just couldn't face the facts
Oct 10th, 2012 - 10:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@2, @7 ProRG American.
Oct 10th, 2012 - 10:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0and start listening with ears wide open the President teaches them a lesson or two. ”but on this matter I am deadly serious. '
OK, because you are very, very, serious about this. I want to ask you ProRG,
What was the most important lesson these Harvard students could have learned if they had payed better attention to CFK at the Harvard interview?
I'm only asking for the most important lesson the students should have learned, the one most obvious. It should be easy for you to answer this. Especially since, as you say, you are very serious about this. Could you please answer the above question, I need to learn something.
You Pick The Socialite !!
Oct 10th, 2012 - 10:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A Game Show With ONE question!!
1. For ONE brain point:
Listen closely
Who pairs Euro designers with Restylane and will let you sleep over for a COOL $1000 a night? *Dollar discount available
Oh the sadness, the majority of Argentinian people elected this (female canine) and now they suffer the results, while the educated upper middle class suffer...
Oct 11th, 2012 - 01:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0It is great fun to watch until I think of my friends who reside there.
A very classic example of why she is incapable of leading a nation in the modern era and why she beyond her capacities on the international area. A bull in a china shop
Oct 11th, 2012 - 01:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0Foreingers, but out.
Oct 11th, 2012 - 02:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2012/10/1/kirchner-argentina-abuses/
Oct 11th, 2012 - 02:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0Def could be nicer, milady is trying the best -she- knows how. Srs q-has Arg ever had a good technocrat as head of head.
don't you just luv the dozy cow!! no,thought not.such an arrogant person,like most politicians,she deserves the shithouse argyland is becoming.was talking with my friend today and he said,it's like 2001
Oct 11th, 2012 - 03:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0but without the freedom!!!
@16 Arifu
Oct 11th, 2012 - 04:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0Foreingers, but out.
Hmmmm, aren't you a foreigner, Arifu from Africa??
People here are commenting on an article written by an American about a public press conference given by CFK at an American (USA) university with international standing, in the USA.
CFK was in the USA to tell the world about Argentina's issues with another country, the UK, and the Falkland Islands.
Looks like a 'Global Issue', isn't that what CFK called the Falklands conflict??
Fair game for anyone, any UN member, to comment whether they be African, American (USA), Argentinian, or a Brit.
Jews were mentioned too. Surely, they should have a say...
This just in:
Oct 11th, 2012 - 04:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0Cristina admits to bribing Argentine insane asylum patients with extra food to troll Mercopress comments boards.
@20
Oct 11th, 2012 - 04:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0LOL !!!
Well, that certainly explains Sussie/ etc and TTT/ Arifu etc. !!!
@11
Oct 11th, 2012 - 06:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0What facts? There weren't hardly any to face. However, if you're not making a joke, something is utterly wrong inside your head...and we don't want that to be so, right?
@22
Oct 11th, 2012 - 06:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0something is utterly wrong inside your head...and we don't want that to be so, right?
Too late :-(
CFKC really did make a show of herself. If anyone had any brains around her they would never have let her speak to an intelligent audience.
Oct 11th, 2012 - 08:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0Or maybe the people around her are sick of her bombastic style and want her to fail. She should sleep with one eye open.
One day she will hit the wall... and fall in a deep black hole.. its juts a matter of time guys;. .don't get upset.. hold your breath and wait for the laugh.. :)
Oct 11th, 2012 - 08:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0CFK could be a pattern for USA how a President drives.
Oct 11th, 2012 - 01:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@2
Oct 11th, 2012 - 02:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0the President teaches them a lesson or two.
About what, how to interpret history by leaving most of it out?
If one reads this article carefully...one can draw similarities to dictatorial Hitler's ideology. Going to Harvard with an arrogant and despicable tone.....I am sure the students can teach her a hell of a lot more economics than she would ever know!!
Oct 11th, 2012 - 02:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think TMBOA is completely out of touch with everyone, especially herself.
Oct 11th, 2012 - 02:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Reality went a long time ago, she is locked into a fantasy of her own making.
This would not matter except she happens to be the President.
She got rid of anyone with half a brain and associated with her late-husband. You know, the one she sobs about on cue but despised when he was alive.
Oct 11th, 2012 - 02:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I imagine her meetings are conducted in the manner of her Harvard performance. Any sensible suggestions are batted away and questioning her decisions are met with aggression. Nestor knew she needed to be caged.
what about gordito Cameron!??
Oct 11th, 2012 - 03:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Argentine people demand the foreigners buttt out. Us people cannot discuss with foreigners, it could get dangerous.
Oct 11th, 2012 - 03:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Like that one time when there was an accident in the area of Flores in BA, and two people and a foreigner died.
@16 Uneducated, unintelligible dimwit.
Oct 11th, 2012 - 04:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@26 Exterminate!
@31 gustbury. A gust of smelly air (from CFK's smelly arse). Should be buried. Is there any argie that doesn't deserve to be buried? Dead or alive. Preferably alive. I like the idea of millions of argies being buried alive. How many would it take before they decided to adopt the truth? 20 million? 30 million? 40 million? Every single one of the fukers? Problem solved! Is this over the top”? Argie faggots are attacking British citizens. They are lying. If they left the Falkland Islands alone, what quarrel would we have? But they want to lie and cheat and steal. Do you leave a criminal to pursue his illegal activities? You do not. You discourage, you impede, you defend but, at the end of the day, you end the threat. Argieland is a threat to a UN-recognised relationship. Kill the transgressor! Kill the rogue state! Kill the sh*te! Kill argieland!
But arifu, you are a foreinger as well to argentines......what is that language again that you speak...Akan? Kasem? Gonja?
Oct 11th, 2012 - 04:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 034... I can imagine some frantic google searching on African dialects going on
Oct 11th, 2012 - 05:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0shaka zulu perhaps.
Oct 11th, 2012 - 05:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I am not a foreigner but I am not argentine. I am a business owner, I own my own jewelry in Villa Gessell and Pinamar. What could any of you know of executive skills? I do.
Oct 11th, 2012 - 06:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@37 You just cannot disguise your personality defects.
Oct 11th, 2012 - 06:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@38
Oct 11th, 2012 - 06:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And who on the Devil are you?
Ahh, so you're not a foreigner, but you're not an Argentine either? Interesting. Just remember to ignore those voices okay? They're not real.
Oct 11th, 2012 - 06:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@39
Oct 11th, 2012 - 06:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0ElaineB is your worst nightmare: a woman with a brain and the confidence that goes with it.
@41
Oct 11th, 2012 - 06:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I fear the brain.
Do you fear the woman?
Harvard... Isn't that the same place where CFK taught up some students a couple of weeks ago? :)
Oct 11th, 2012 - 07:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We are all foreigners in some way,
Oct 11th, 2012 - 07:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And we all eventual descent back to Africa.
Still,
We claim the tree on the left, big leaves, keeps ya warm in winter,
You Argies can have the holly tree.
No sense no humour, no sense no harm…lol.
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3 7 Arif ;
Oct 11th, 2012 - 07:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0what kinds of jewels you expert on .
yau bunların hepsi şapşal be..düz beyinliler.
I am not a foreigner but I am not argentine. I am a business owner, I own my own jewelry in Villa Gessell and Pinamar. What could any of you know of executive skills? I do.
Oct 11th, 2012 - 07:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0tittyboi.....you have me roflmao .....lol. Ok let's play your game truth telling troll. For starters, if you are a sole proprietor, you are a small business and the word EXECUTIVE does not come into play.
Secondly, tittyboi, er, I mean arifu, in order to justify that statement What could any of you know of executive skills? What do each and every one of us do to earn a living? Until you anwser that, shut up and go back to being the idiot truth telling troll. Oh yes, third time I asked, what was the languagae you spoke again....Dagbani? or is it Nzema of Gonja? What language arifu?
lol, these “trolls” learned English (albeit little) because they know there's no money/success in Spanish
Oct 11th, 2012 - 07:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I sell mainly Jade and Obsidian specialties, and 18k on order. Also imitationals.
Oct 11th, 2012 - 07:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You idiot Poppy seed, I have two branches in two towns in the summer, thus I need a vice-manager, and I am the executive officer. Now get lost you know nothing of the basics of mercantilism.
I only saw the Harvard gig in spanish.... couldn't find the english translation so missed a fair bit of the MBOA's waffling.... I did notice that she only took about 4 questions in 30 minutes.... slagged off the questioner and then rambled on forever on each question..... clever tactic if you don't really want to answer questions....
Oct 11th, 2012 - 07:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Those are both tiny tiny beach resorts. Barely anyone lives there year round. YOu must do all of your business in Jan/Feb. Plus you must hate that CFk has shut off ALL OF YOUR SUPPLIES!
Oct 11th, 2012 - 08:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Gold is bought with U$. How's that working out for you?
BTW when I lived in Argentina I saw 2 black people in 5 years. 2! Both were African selling jewelry on the streets out of a suitcase. Are you one of them?
Psst we all know you are Toby. I'm just playing along. African then German then French ( just 1 post) then American now back to African.
All from a locutorio in Mendoza isn't the internet wonderful!
4 8 Arif
Oct 11th, 2012 - 08:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Jade ? ..(çok güzel ! ) ..especially for ladies !
i never saw Obsidian.
Ok I posted before I saw the Jade and Obsidian shop in PInamar and Villa Gesell. Pinamar and VIlla Gesell barely have any shopping district. Pinamar is basically a subdivision on the beach. I can assure you there is not 1 black person living there. I have been many many times and never saw 1 not 1.
Oct 11th, 2012 - 08:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 05 2 yuppieboy ..seni geri..
Oct 11th, 2012 - 08:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0i understood what Arif means.
Hey you stupid British people leave the Malvinas to us Latins. I am really f-dd!up with your invasion of our lands. Scram before I take out your eyeballs with a kitchen spoon!
Oct 11th, 2012 - 08:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0ELIO da Salvadorian
lol Elio, shush, before UK nukes El Salvador into oblivion :P
Oct 11th, 2012 - 08:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0wealth comparison:
Salvadorian weapon: cheap quality tin spoon
Brit weapon: ICBM nukes launched from stealth subs
;D
Wats up punk, wanna get it on? I'll get my Mara Salvatrucha allies and we will make you pankakes, you heard @?$#!??
Oct 11th, 2012 - 08:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0lol, u couldn't afford the plane ticket out of El Salvador to come challenge me. Plus, do any countries even allow Salvadorians in? ;)
Oct 11th, 2012 - 08:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0How's the drug war treating you? Still impoverished? ;D
And I regret it!
Oct 11th, 2012 - 08:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0mastershake
Oct 11th, 2012 - 09:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0maaastershaaaaky...masmasmasshakeyshakyshakeee ..hoooooop.
mastershaky ..mastercake...mastercake....hooooooop...mastershake.
Ah, TTT takes advice!
Oct 11th, 2012 - 09:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think Toby picked a Villa Gesell and Pinamar because he heard of them thought they were big tourist destinations but obscure enough no one here had ever been there. Boy was he wrong,
Oct 11th, 2012 - 09:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Even in the USA you couldn't survive selling jade and obsidian in town of 20,000. Ye gads he knows nothing about business.
@58 X)
Oct 12th, 2012 - 01:09 am - Link - Report abuse 059 emerald (#)
Oct 12th, 2012 - 03:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oct 11th, 2012 - 09:01 pm
Daha fazla yazmadan önce, Türk geliştirmek Lütfen!!!!!!!!!
Cristina was so right to be a badass, acid tongued first class b*tch with these oligarchic students, they deserved it for asking such hostile, and frankly dumb, questions, as even the neutral foreigner column in the BA Herald said. And if you focused on the body language and tone of voice as I had to you could see there was no malice, just the cut and thrust of debate, and her sense of humour and light touch shone through. If she didn't have this combative style, she wouldn't be quite the rhetorically skilled - and accomplished! - leader Araya himself describes at the start of the article. I must say, catching up with some threads I missed the chance to comment on, her comments in the US, attacking the IMF from the floor of the UN, her brilliant joke about US embassies (I know she wasn't the first to say it, but it was a stroke of genius to use it as an icebreaker at a US university) and yes her mauling of the snotty nosed haters at Harvard, only make her go up in my estimation. Mercopress, get serious! Cristinita, rock on ma'am =)
Oct 17th, 2012 - 12:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Everyone is so pissed at the BJs she sold the .....she promised deep throat action.
Oct 17th, 2012 - 03:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#30 How do you know they hated each other, any evidence or even gossip outside your own hunch? And if he wanted her caged why did he make her President when he could have run again. I don't think she'd have to act in cabinet as she did in Harvard though - if anyone displayed such a low political level and right wing perspective as the students she swatted, surely they'd be out of the cabinet!
Oct 17th, 2012 - 07:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#41 Cristina is your worst nightmare: a woman with a brain and the confidence that goes with it =)
@64 BK
Oct 17th, 2012 - 08:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ma'am- you don't sound British - that's more of an Americanism.
So what would you call the Queen? =)
Oct 17th, 2012 - 11:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0BK if cuntina kirchner is your idea of a brain, I will assume you have an iq in the range of your age.
Oct 18th, 2012 - 12:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0@68 BK
Oct 18th, 2012 - 03:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0”So what would you call the Queen? =)”
Queen, yes, but Cristina, get serious...
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