Friday, October 12th 2012 - 00:18 UTC

Brazilian president calls for European ‘greater understanding’ of the Argentine situation

President Dilma Rousseff, meeting with her Irish peer Michael D. Higgins said the global crisis has had a greater impact on Argentina than on Brazil, which has a stronger industrial base, and called for a better understanding of President Cristina Fernandez administration.

Higgins and Rousseff had a 90 minutes meeting at the Planalto Palace

“Global turbulences have been more negative for Argentine manufacturing, while Brazil has managed to keep its industrial structure more diversified”, said Ms Rousseff during talks with the visiting Irish president.

She added that Argentina, the second largest economy in South America, has seen its manufacturing sector weaken with the global situation and “this has further deteriorated because the country is cut off from international money markets”, according to a report published in the financial Sao Paulo newspaper Valor Economico.

The Brazilian president also emphasized that Brussels needs to have greater “understanding” towards the government of president Cristina Fernandez which is criticized precisely by the EU for its protectionist policies and “are considered an obstacle to keep advancing in reaching a trade and cooperation agreement between Mercosur and the European Union”.

Nevertheless Rousseff told her Irish peer she was optimistic that finally the EU and Mercosur could reach such an agreement but also underlined that the EU has its own challenges which is to ensure the unity of the group threatened by division as a result of the Euro crisis. 

“In Mercosur we strongly desire the Euro zone remains united and survives the split threats that have surfaced because of the ongoing crisis”, said Rousseff, who added that Brazil disfavoured any suggestion of the Euro zone’s stronger economies such as Germany leaving the currency and “wouldn’t see this as a development that would be viable or welcome”.

Rousseff told Higgins “that the Europe in which she found inspiration was a Europe that had protected labour rights, that had social policy and that was going in the direction of inclusion”.

According to the report much of the 90-minute meeting at the Planalto presidential palace was spent discussing the European crisis, during which Higgins outlined how bank debt had impacted on Ireland’s fiscal position.

Brazil’s president criticised the G20’s response to the crisis, which, she said “has not come to terms with the real issues in Europe”.

Mrs Rousseff said she believed emphasis changes will have to be made to the current policy of austerity, especially in relation to youth unemployment, to win support from European voters for the changes necessary to European treaties in order for the currency to survive.
 

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1 Idlehands (#) Oct 12th, 2012 - 01:17 am Report abuse
Rouseff wants a Mercosur trade agreement with the EU.
Argentina is a member of Mercosur and run by a gang of nutters.
Instead of persuading CFK to follow sensible policies she tells the EU to make allowances for here and incorporates Venezuela into the bloc too.

Errr....I think not.
2 Frank (#) Oct 12th, 2012 - 01:23 am Report abuse
Can't the mad bitch speak for herself or doesn't Higgins think it worth his time to visit the basket case country?
3 slattzzz (#) Oct 12th, 2012 - 03:13 am Report abuse
No mention of missle firing in the Falklands? Well blow me :o)
4 Guzz (#) Oct 12th, 2012 - 07:05 am Report abuse
UK is not Europe :)))
5 slattzzz (#) Oct 12th, 2012 - 07:46 am Report abuse
Whooooosh
6 Clyde15 (#) Oct 12th, 2012 - 09:07 am Report abuse
#4
There is no such sovereign country called Europe.
The UK is a member of the EU and has a vote on all proposed trade agreements.
Why should we make life easy for Argentina - they would not reciprocate.
7 ElaineB (#) Oct 12th, 2012 - 09:19 am Report abuse
This is rather insulting to the large ego of CFKC. Dilma is saying people should make allowances for the under-achieving, spoilt child of South America because they have special needs.

Things are far worse in Argentina than Brazil and it will only get worse. CFKC has no idea how to run an economy and she has a bunch of muppets agreeing to her demands.

Did Maximo even go to school?
8 JuanGabriel (#) Oct 12th, 2012 - 09:41 am Report abuse
Agree, it does smack of 'Leave her alone, its not fair, she can't help being a mong'
9 TreborDoyle (#) Oct 12th, 2012 - 09:45 am Report abuse
And there is no such Irish President as William Higgins!!!!

Do they mean President Michael D. Higgins of Ireland?

They don't really know the difference between Ireland, the UK or Europe!
10 briton (#) Oct 12th, 2012 - 11:43 am Report abuse
let CFK sink,
if brazil wants to save her, thats brazils problem.
11 Conqueror (#) Oct 12th, 2012 - 01:19 pm Report abuse
@4 Brazikl has nothing to say that is of interest while it supports the cesspit. We don't want any association with illegitimate organisations such as mercosur.
12 LEPRecon (#) Oct 12th, 2012 - 02:38 pm Report abuse
Europe understands Argentina only too well, hence why we don't trust them to keep their promises or to honour any treaty they have signed.

How much more can we possible understand them?
13 CJvR (#) Oct 12th, 2012 - 02:59 pm Report abuse
Why is Brazil so whipped by CFK and Chavez that it even goes groveling on their behalf abroad?
14 Pugol-H (#) Oct 12th, 2012 - 06:35 pm Report abuse
Brazil wants a trade deal with the EU, so far the EU has resisted any suggestion of a bi-lateral deal.

Brazil have to try and bridge the EU – CFK/Chaves gap, which I don’t there is any chance of them doing.

Be interesting to see how long it is before “bi-lateral” is mooted again.
15 Guzz (#) Oct 12th, 2012 - 07:25 pm Report abuse
Bla bla all you want, that SA is interested in normalized relations with Europe, it doesn't necessarily mean UK :)
Spain, Italy, Greece, Ireland, Scotland, Portugal, you know, all those countries you spit on at the moment :)
That would be a proper investmest from SA side... I'm sure someone thought about it :)))
16 Britworker (#) Oct 12th, 2012 - 07:57 pm Report abuse
@15
Your ignorance is bewildering, if I'm not mistaken it was the German government that last refused Argentina having another loan, not the UK. Also you will find that the UK is far more influential than all of the countries you just mentioned. Oh, you can't have a trade deal with Scotland because Scotland is part of the UK. It may suit your purposes to believe that Scotland would break away from the UK in 2 years but I wouldn't bank on that happening.
17 Guzz (#) Oct 12th, 2012 - 08:12 pm Report abuse
One can only hope :)
18 Britworker (#) Oct 12th, 2012 - 08:46 pm Report abuse
Sorry Guzz, Scottish indepence is wrapped up in pride, ego and Braveheart. The Scots might be a lot of things but they ain't stupid, they have little to gain and much to lose, that's before all the uncertainties kick in. When all is said and done this whole farce will go down in history as one fat mans ego. But for the time being you can enjoy the show :-)
19 Clyde15 (#) Oct 12th, 2012 - 10:02 pm Report abuse
#17
If, and only a big IF, Scotland did break away, what makes you think we would want to have anything to do with you ??????????
#18
It's more than one“fat man's ego”. There will be a vote at the end of it, and the English,( 8% of the population) residing in Scotland will have a vote.

As Scottish politics have nothing to do with the subject can we drop it from the discussion and leave out the thinly disguised patronising remarks..
20 Guzz (#) Oct 12th, 2012 - 11:17 pm Report abuse
19
Scotland breaking away is enough, you don't have to do more :)))
21 Mendoza Canadian (#) Oct 13th, 2012 - 01:24 am Report abuse
Global occurences have a negative affect on AR?? Its the policies of CFK that are having the negative affect. Just recently the Minister of the Economy stated that the world economic crisis has nothing to do with Ar.
22 ChrisR (#) Oct 13th, 2012 - 11:48 am Report abuse
Many trolls, Guzz included, overlook the fact that Britain was at the forefront in loaning money to Ireland when no-one else would.

Yes, it also helped our economy but we could have stood the loss.

Also, the Brits subsidize throught the EU Argentina to the amount of 15 M USD per year.

Not much I admit AND some of us are doing what we can to have it stopped.

Yes, Britain is running a huge debt, but that is partially the result of bailing out other countries and continuing with foreign aid on a large scale when compared to others.

How much does AG send as foreign aid: do they understand the concept of helping other or only helping themselves?

Guzz: you are particularly despicable about boasting you do not pay for your course and then laughing at the country that has made this possible.
23 Guzz (#) Oct 13th, 2012 - 01:02 pm Report abuse
Chris
Yes I too find it hilarious, what's more, even more hilarious is the fact that most students here gets paid to study and still they don't appretiate the opportunity :)
Your (former) debt is summed up by mainly pensions and bonds, and the sim is far far greater than the symbolic sums you send as aid.
Count in the amount you steal (stole?) in natural resources, and Arg by doing nothing, is aiding the world much more than the UK.
24 Pugol-H (#) Oct 13th, 2012 - 03:04 pm Report abuse
Whooooosh
25 ChrisR (#) Oct 13th, 2012 - 05:45 pm Report abuse
23 Guzz

That does not answer the question. Britain does not need to send money around the world for its own good; it does it for the good of the countries who receive it.

I said that the amount AG gets is small, but why even send that money to what is effectively an aggressor?

Look up the amount of money Britain donates in foreign help world-wide.
26 Guzz (#) Oct 13th, 2012 - 05:48 pm Report abuse
I'll do that Chris, now you look up how much they profit stealing natural resources and selling contract atop the corpses of innocent children world-wide, lets get together and do the math when we finish researching :)
27 Pugol-H (#) Oct 13th, 2012 - 06:02 pm Report abuse
@26 Guzz
“stealing natural resources” – You mean like Argentina is trying to do in the S Atlantic/Antarctic.

“selling contract atop the corpses of innocent children” – Exactly what do you think you sell in a place where even the children are dead!
28 Guzz (#) Oct 13th, 2012 - 06:20 pm Report abuse
Construction contracts, to rebuild what your own bombs destroyed...
29 ChrisR (#) Oct 13th, 2012 - 08:35 pm Report abuse
@28 Guzz

Do you talk like this in real life or only when you are anonymous?

I just cannot imagine what any professional aboard a ship would make of your reliability when things go wrong and the ship is in danger.

How can anyone rely on you when you are as wacky as this?

I tell you straight, if ever I had someone working in one of my businesses 'emerge' with these personality disorders they would be put through disciplinary procedures to remove them from the company.
30 Guzz (#) Oct 13th, 2012 - 08:53 pm Report abuse
Chris
I would never work for someone like you :)
31 ChrisR (#) Oct 14th, 2012 - 12:11 am Report abuse
30 Guzz

Then you are badly mistaken.

I had people leave other companies to join me because they knew I trained my people properly, resourced them adequately to achieve our AGREED goals and rewarded them financially in accordance to their effort.

How many posters on here had a boss like me (or better) to work for?
32 briton (#) Oct 14th, 2012 - 11:09 am Report abuse
guzz
chris
.....................
TV last night,
The owner, yes the owner of Ryan air,
Stated he moved his operations from the rep or Ireland to Britain,

Because of EU restrictions, and government debt to the EU he stated publicly if you think this way, the rep or Ireland is already a dependency of the in mighty EU .
This man knows what he is doing,
The EU breaks you down, gives you money galore, keep up your standard of living, then pulls the plug,

but ya cant pay it back, so you now become dependent, and the same will happen with any other little county that thinks otherwise,

Ireland is no long a freely independent country,

Still,
Should have stayed within the UK.
A warning to others perhaps..
33 Ayayay (#) Oct 14th, 2012 - 11:06 pm Report abuse
Does Brazil want someone rich to keep the Western hemisphere party going on artificial stimulus? DOESN'T CARE if North Europe has to be beholden to Singapore to do it.

Dilma doesn't want South Europe to sink. Spain alone is the 3rd biggest owner/investment there.

Brazil's trade with all of Europe is down from $13.0 B to .... $1.1B

brazilianbubble.com/brazils-trade-surplus-with-europe-at-10-year-low/

So, $13 B @4% or less is what Greece (an economy the size of the city of Boston) wants from the EU. Mostly the Germans.

UNASUR can ask BRAZIL to lend $13 B to Argentina for the ARGENTINE SITUATION! (:

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