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ARA Libertad conflict forces the resignation of the Argentine navy chief

Tuesday, October 16th 2012 - 07:46 UTC
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The ARA Libertad conflict retained in Ghana has a new victim: Argentina’s Navy chief of staff Admiral Carlos Alberto Paz tendered his resignation and was replaced by his deputy Vice-Admiral Daniel Alberto Martin. Read full article

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  • 1st Sea Lord Guns

    It could have been worse, at least he did not deliberatly ram two of Her Majesty's finest torpedo's outside the exclusion zone.

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 08:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Santa Fe

    Ah the glorious sante fe!!! Sunk by a handful of Royal Marines and a Ickle helicopter

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 08:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conor J

    @2
    Have you seen the after action photos? She looked like swiss cheese with all those bullet holes.

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 08:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Last Viking

    The mad queen is doing lots of changes in the armed forces these days.. I found this article from Associated Press about a trial:
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/the_americas/argentina-convicts-3-former-navy-officers-of-summarily-executing-leftist-inmates-in-1972/2012/10/15/893b84e0-1708-11e2-a346-f24efc680b8d_print.html

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 08:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Idlehands

    To lose one boat may be regarded as a misfortune; to lose two looks like carelessness

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 08:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • TipsyThink

    Where are the Spanish/Portuguese vérsions of this Wéb Site that wé could commént there.?
    or
    Is thís Web Sité from Urugúay who does not knòw Spanísh/Portugúese ?

    in Latin Americá merely few ,raré people know English,even if they know it ,do never talk/write in foréign lánguage.!

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 09:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Santa Fe

    Either he has a big head or his hat is too small

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 09:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Frank

    I think his ( Paz... in the photo) claim to fame was having served as a blanket folder at Rio Gallegos in '82 ... hence all the medals....

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 10:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Viscount Falkland

    Daniel Martin was at the helm of the Santa Fe
    “Helm, ...what are you doing 60 degrees off course?”
    “...coming back from 90 degrees off course, sir.”

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 10:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Idlehands

    What needs to go wrong for CFK herself to resign?

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 10:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @10 She is a narcissist so nothing is her fault, it is everyone else in the world that is wrong.

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 10:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GALlamosa

    Tragedy. Wonder if he will get a good pension and a little house in Calafate.

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 10:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Frank

    Yep , for sure, a peso pension ... less the 'under the table ' benefits ... and a 60% 'cost of living' decrease.... poor bugger

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 10:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    I think, living in their never never land of self-deception the Argentines will have noted that Steven Seagal saved the USS Missouri almost single handedly (OK so this was in a film, but RGs do trade in fantasy)-perhaps CFK will appoint him head of the RG Navy?

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 11:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @7Santa Fe,
    He needs a shave too. the pinhead.

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 11:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • surfer

    I'm waiting for the day when EVERY.SINGLE.ARTICLE. on Mercopress is about a screwup by the Argentinian government, they're working hard on it.

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 12:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    I'm saddened seeing an officer taking this punishment, but CFK's rage must be quelled.

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 12:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Zethee

    6:

    http://es.mercopress.com/

    But you won't find many people on it. This website mainly stays alive so that people can argue over the Falklands.

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 01:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Condorito

    @17
    I agree.
    He has taken the fall for errors which were not of his making.
    Anyone who gets in to a submarine (let alone WW2 vintage) and takes it into a war zone is a braver man than me.

    Wouldn’t it be nice if Sr Paz could fill a submarine with La Campora cowards and take them into a war zone – see how that might change their belligerent rhetoric.

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 01:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Think about this from CFK's pov for a minute;
    totally embarrassed on the world stage
    Losing the symbol of RG navy
    due to Nestor's incompetence & arrogance
    It shows how Ks have neutered their Military
    bankrupted their country
    Lost international prestige
    all threw their own incompetence and arrogance

    There is no other way to spin it

    She is going to leave office with a trashed economy, trashed Military, 100os of world wide judgements, expulsion from most Int'l orgs and dragging Nestor's legacy with her disgrace and ruining the chance of MaxiK ascending to the throne.

    A very bad month indeed.

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 01:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Condorito

    you forgot...
    and USD100 million+ in a Swiss bank account.

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 01:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    I would imagine she will be forced to spend a lot of her ill gotten gains to keep her and her family safe when it call comes crashing down.

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 01:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Idlehands

    While we all like to laugh about Maximo and his pies - does he really present a political threat to Argentina?

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 01:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • TipsyThink

    18
    We knôw it bút has ño log in allow to make comménts...but Why ?

    A rummy Wéb Site by so mány fiction Islands artícles at the Látin America limen !...but Why ?

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 02:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Condorito

    CFK is going to step in and buy the Libertad with her personal funds. When the Argie public finally tries to lynch her, she will sail off in to the sunset with her hardcore brainwashed cronies, vowing to return one day. They sail to South Orkney (via Scotland to pick up BK and London to offer asylum to Assange) to found the Kirchnerite Republic. Before long they claim Argentina and the Falklands as an extension of their continental shelf.... but disaster strikes fatboy breaks the rationing rules and fledgling colony perishes.

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 02:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • TipsyThink

    18
    haaaaaa...by the way

    es.mercopress.com/edicion-actual

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 02:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • brucey-babe

    Don`t blame us Chrissy it was the damn Brits. flogging us a bad batch of sat-navs, honest.

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 02:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    Aparently
    now CFK has no one to send to get the ship back,

    but offers from the loyal fishermen may help.

    so a little fish, tells us.

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 02:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • TipsyThink

    If you hang about to write the address press below link .

    http://es.mercopress.com/edicion-actual

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 02:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GFace

    I'm not sympathetic (much) to Argentina in this whole thing, but this is a bum wrap on Paz. He couldn't have anticipated that the creditors would have had the chutzpah to take the ship. I still say that, bad press aside (but they ARE repomen), Aerolingas equipment is a far more attractive. The other downside to that strategy is that they seem very heavily reliant on their codeshare agreements there is so little AA metal landing at terminals likely to accommodate the seizures that it wouldn't be cost effective even though a number of airlines such as Air Koryo are looking to modernize :-)

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 02:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Idlehands

    I guess part of the job description of an Argentine Admiral is to know which nations your government has ripped off and which other nations are their friends. Somebody should have told him.

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 02:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • surfer

    yup, wouldn't leave many places to visit though

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 02:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    29 Twat-Think

    I should stick to the link.

    Lasted items are 2010 so I suppose you would be happier with it, unlike the current situation in AG!

    Think that says something about the lack of interest in espanol or the power of English. I suspect the latter.

    LOL

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 02:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Greyhounds

    Cristina also dumped the Admiral Alberto Paz's predecessor--Jorge Godoy...

    How many Chiefs of Staff can she fire? Maybe the problem doesn't lie with the officers but with the presidenta?

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 02:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    Untimely,
    As head, she must take full responsibility,

    Or blame others.

    mmmmmmmmmm
    .

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 03:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    The Commander in Chief should carry the can. Who is that? Oh yeah! KFC!!!

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 03:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • falklandlad

    An unfortunate but yet fitting end to a trespassing aggressor who knowingly participapted in the Argentine military occupation of the Falklands and South Georgia .

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 03:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Santa Fe

    Is he on the maximo diet

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 03:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • St.John

    If the 'Libertad' is protected by the “Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations” as the Argentine government claims, how can it at the same time defend to relieve navy officers of their command? - according to the government claim they have done absolutely nothing wrong.

    It takes more brain than the combined erratic and corrupt Argentine government can muster to cook up a consistent case against the naval officers.

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 04:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Steve-32-uk

    'British ban on Argentines settling in Falklands'
    http://www.parlamentario.com/noticia-49210.html

    Note - There is no such ban, it is an Argentine myth.

    'Argentina Ambassador presented credentials to Queen Elizabeth II'
    http://www.parlamentario.com/noticia-49210.html

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 05:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pirat-Hunter

    Argentina doesn't need a museum sail boat what Argentina really needs is a nuclear defense program, imagine how much money Argentina can put in a nuclear defence program that will create jobs rather then cost Argentina tax payers 20.000.000 for nothing truly, because anyone training in Libertad will never fight a modern war or win a single battle since most modern invading armies have nuclear subs and planes. A sail boat is just good as a political chip, take it to the international courts and save money on navy salaries we don't need, Australia boats catch pirates and their court burns their boats, take a look, watch and learn to treat war mongers and thieves.
    http://www.abc.net.au/environment/articles/2011/12/13/3389001.htm
    what has Libertad ever done besides cost Argentine tax payers a lot of money for other nations to train their navy ??? Imagine how much money can be saved with a nuclear defense program whereas single button can disinfectant Islas Malvinas Argentina or send all ship illegally fishing in Antartica Argentina to the bottom of the sea. Quit letting the english people pull our chai and send the illegal aliens home.

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 05:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • TipsyThink

    33

    if yoú stepping at Látin América ,yoú might not fínd añyone who speak English lañguagé.

    learn Chinése ,to be moré usefúl thán English .!

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 05:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • surfer

    This is just the start, 20m is just an interest payment

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 05:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ProRG_American

    Why are you all so rejoyceful? The Argentine military will have gained the most from this matter.

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 06:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • David Cameron

    He later specialized at the Submarines School and became an expert in submarine warfare and arms.

    During the Falklands’ conflict he was part of the “Santa Fe” submarine crew that participated at the “Rosario” operation.

    How did that episode of your life work pan out for you then Admiral your no Nelson I see.

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 06:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pirat-Hunter

    No more paz nor Libertad lol amazingly fitting the reasons to kick start a nuclear defense programs 100% built in Argentina. Let's meet ghana and USA at the international court of justice. Let save some tax payers money wasted on useless navy salaries who can't even catch a pirate fishing boat as the Australians who not only catch them but for 6.00$ worth of fish their courts will burn the fisherman's boat. No lies. CHeck it out.
    Here!
    http://www.abc.net.au/environment/articles/2011/12/13/3389001.htm
    http://www.abc.net.au/environment/articles/2011/12/13/3389001.htm
    http://www.abc.net.au/environment/articles/2011/12/13/3389001.htm

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 06:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Steveu

    @46 Why not take the UK to the ICJ over your Falklands “claim” whilst you're there.

    It would seem a shame to waste an opportunity wouldn't it? ;-)

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 06:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LEPRecon

    @42 - Tipsy

    The country with the largest number of English speakers is....CHINA. No one there seems overly eager to learn Spanish, but English is the business language, and the Chinese love business as it makes them lots of money.

    Sorry to burst your bubble.

    CFK now had her sacrificial lamb to appease the people of Argentina, but this situation is far from resolved.

    @46 - PH

    Argentina can't afford the money to liberate its flag ship. We've been through this before, haven't we. Nuclear weapons are very expensive.

    You have this delusion that nuclear weapons will gain Argentina respect. It won't, even assuming you could afford them and cope with the international sanctions levelled against Argentina for breaking yet another treaty you signed up to.

    Face it PH, Argentina has been humiliated over this incident, and the fact that you cannot pay the mere US$20,000,000 to get the ship back.

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 06:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pirat-Hunter

    Because I think Argentina doesn't need the relic museum sail ship and we know the international court can be bought with our resources in Islas Malvinas Argentina, chances are that The vulture will have to spend lots and lots of money to buy the international courts, ghana per capita is under 4000$ the vultures have the whole country under their salary. No we rather take it to the international courts and make the vulture spend the extra cash, and not just put an end to the theft of libertad but end the 600 million financial witch hunt.
    We can declare war or expropiate their embassy in Bs as, but the international court can be a good start, I do believe Argentina is being distracted from focusing on a solution to our old problem, Argentina needs to build a all national nuclear defense program to end the illegal occupation of Islas Malvinas Argentina, the fakland is a british corporate not people. That's like naming USA coca Cola. Lol brutish really need quality education.

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 07:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    #46 how so sussie, are they going to finally put kirchner out to pasture?

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 07:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pirat-Hunter

    #48 pay for?? Lol that ship sailed long ago, I have only pesos do you want some?? Why would Argentina pay for an old boat when Argentina really needs a nuclear defense program?? Sorry we rather let them have it and investigate montsanto for tax evasion as well as many US polluters working in Argentina. In time we will be able to expropiate more then we ever owed. You know what they say when you play with fire.
    http://stopdebtvultures.org.au/?p=447

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 07:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Frank

    I think there is some confusion here... that photo is Paz.... war experience blanket folder and captain of the heads.... who has been given the push... no photo published of Martin... and being caught alongside with your pants down and losing your ship does not a war hero make..... submarines are meant to be at sea.. submerged....

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 07:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • jakesnake

    @51 Pirat-Hunter, would you say you actually have a triple-digit IQ? From your ridiculous ramblings, it sure doesn't seem that way. Man, you're nuts.

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 07:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    #53 he is a kid, everyone forgets what it is l;ike talking with a 15 year old. All fired up and filled with piss and vinegar. Argentina is going to declare war? They don;t even have a military to rescue there ship......lol. Ever see Peter Sellers “The Mouse that Roared” lol
    He is such a tube that he thinks everyone does business the argentine way, bribing. I guess the RG's found out that Ghana cannot be bribed. If you can't get your military ship back from Ghana, you can't declare war on anyone other than your citizens, which cuntina kirchner will probably do soon enough.

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 08:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Cap, He most likely has never been to Argentina. Illegals can't come and go like you and I.

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 08:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Apparently he does not read world news either with his fantasies of a nuclear defense.

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 08:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • jakesnake

    @54 Cuntina Kirchner.....I busted out laughing at that one. That's awesome....

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 08:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pirat-Hunter

    #53 I usually have that same effect on homosexuals who forget to talk about the report at hand, I usually get distracted by women breast, I don't even want to know what homos get distracted with. Your opinion is just that !!! your opinion.
    I support a nuclear defense program similar to the USA and UK, does UK and USA suffer from low IQ do to their nuclear program?? or am I being targeted for being latin ?? KKK appears to have a lot of supporters in USA and UK.
    stopdebtvultures.org.au/?p=447
    www.abc.net.au/environment/articles/2011/12/13/3389001.htm

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 08:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Idlehands

    Imagine Argentina with a nuclear defence program. If they ever got it to work they'd probably fry half of Buenos Aires while parading their great achievement through the streets.

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 08:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Argentina citizenry is too stupid, hot headed and poor to have nukes.

    Neither Brazil,Chile or the USA would ever let it happen.

    PH is a retard with tourettes. Just ignore him.

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 08:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LEPRecon

    @60 - Yankeeboy

    Aw, but it's so much fun to light the blue touch paper and stand back knowing he'll be ranting about nukes and homosexuals within moments! LOL

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 08:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Ok now I busted out laughing. You want a nuclear defense like the USA's? While we peaked in the 80's with 32,000 nuclear warheads, we only have just onver 10,000 these days. Thats not even talking about the various delivery systems for these warheads.
    The Manhatten Project cist the USA 20billion.....in 1945.
    from 1957 thru 1964 it cost roughly 14 billion to construct 1000 missle and lauch facilites. CUntina won't be able to get her botox injections anymore. She will have to go back to having ass fat sucked out and injected in her lips again......and she's come so far!

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 08:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pirat-Hunter

    LOL don't listen to #60 he is another frustrated homosexual stalking me. Now in regards to Argentines support for a nuclear defense programs neither Brazil, Chile or USA has a say in it, I don't imagine mexico had a say in USA or France in UK. Then again white people think the KKK should rule the planet. I on the other hand don't like the KKK so I opt for a nuclear defence program for our people in Argentina to end the illegal occupation of Islas Malvinas Argentina.
    Http://stopdebtvultures.org.au/?p=447
    www.abc.net.au/environment/articles/2011/12/13/3389001.htm

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 09:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Steve-32-uk

    'Alicia Castro met with Queen Elizabeth II'
    http://www.lanacion.com.ar/1517754-alicia-castro-se-reunio-con-la-reina-isabel-ii

    With a photo - OMG she touched the Queens hand! I hope the Queen has plenty of soap.

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 09:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    I'm pretty sure nobody is stalking you nor wants to have sex with you. There are houses fulled of Paraguayan and Bolivian sex slaves all over Argentina if they wanted to sleep with an indian.

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 09:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pirat-Hunter

    Comment removed by the editor.

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 09:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Joe Bloggs

    66 PH
    Your post is offensive and should be removed.

    Mercopress
    Please delete the above post.

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 09:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pirat-Hunter

    #67 offensive to Child molesters, perverts, homosexuals or children who are you protecting??
    I am here in support of a nuclear defense programs in Argentina and a lot of people are here for some perverted agenda, I call it as I see it, if you don't like it don't read me I ignore most of them homos.
    www.abc.net.au/environment/articles/2011/12/13/3389001.htm
    Http://stopdebtvultures.org.au/?p=447
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnK5BKvQwdY&feature=related

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 10:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ProRG_American

    Captain, Just cut the lines and leave harbor!

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 10:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • surfer

    you guys have lost it, step away from the keyboard

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 10:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Arifu_Gobakuwi

    @67

    Pathetic, have you read the insults about Argentines, their culture, their race, their language, their country, their food, their attitudes, their clothing, their _____ fill in the blank? You are fine with that huh?

    Coward.

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 11:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ProRG_American

    I lived in Argentina and I think that all of their attributes that you descibe above are just fine.

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 11:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Arifu_Gobakuwi

    Comment removed by the editor.

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 11:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Britninja

    @64 I'm guessing “credentials” means a packet of salted peanuts and a G&T. Then she did a flight safety check in the middle of the hallway until the Corgis were set on her.

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 11:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Sussie USA

    @67
    Freedom of speech for all!

    Oct 17th, 2012 - 12:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CJvR

    Perhaps one day the when the oil millions start rolling into the Falkland Islands treasury they could buy the ship, rename it HMFIS Deadbeat and and sail it around the world to promote fiscal responsibility.

    Oct 17th, 2012 - 12:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Freedom of speech for all except the press in argentina

    Oct 17th, 2012 - 12:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Britninja

    @74 *Sigh* Oh Toby...you seriously need to chillax and have a night off. Go to a party, get a gf, watch a blu-ray - anything to stave off the dark spectre of shrieking HAHAHA insanity that seems to be creeping closer...ever-closer to tearing your addled mind to shreds and leaving you cackling in a pool of your own peepee.

    Anyyyyhew, let's have a look at your latest rant. So if I understand you right, we're hypocrites because we're not treating one person who committed a crime exactly the same as a different person who committed different crimes under entirely different circumstances? Seriously?

    Oct 17th, 2012 - 12:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Arifu_Gobakuwi

    Hypocrites for yammering how South Americans are against the rule of law because one country in the region is giving humanitarian shelter to Assange, and yet you do the same for this guy, with no excuse since you took 10 years to resolve the matter.

    So either your system is pathetic for taking 10 years, or you are hypocrites. You choose my banana monarchy buddy.

    Oct 17th, 2012 - 12:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Britninja

    You've oversimplified it a wee bit haven't you, along the lines of the “All Europe is the den of Satannnn and must be purged!” fun stuff you usually come out with ;) Why do I have the feeling that if the UK *had* handed him over you'd be on Plan B, screeching how the UK is a puppet of the USA? I guess this is why trying to debate with the hate-filled brainwashed is pointless ;)

    Oct 17th, 2012 - 12:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Arifu_Gobakuwi

    @80

    Had you done so I would have correctly pointed out that you are Obama's lap dog. But since you did not, you are just against prosecuting international criminals.

    Either way both are true.

    Oct 17th, 2012 - 12:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Britninja

    Like I said ;) Anyway - getting back on topic, since your theme of the moment is hypocrisy. Do you find it hypocritical that Argentina can bleat about another country taking its property, demand its return, and wail about unfairness and law...while stealing the property and companies of other countries?

    Oct 17th, 2012 - 01:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Arifu_Gobakuwi

    I find it about as hypocritical as when the Brits say that Argentina is a cowardly country for not being able or not having the guts to bomb Ghana to get the ship back, and then at the same time say Argentina does not obey int' law... when you had just suggested we should have the guts to break international law.

    I guess this is why trying to debate with the hate-filled brainwashed is pointless ;)

    Oct 17th, 2012 - 01:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Britninja

    Oh so you DO find it hypocritical of Argentina then? That's progress I suppose ;)

    As for the bombing thing - I can't say I've read that anywhere. Surely you're not making stuff up? Why would we even want you to bomb Ghana? We're on their side ;) You can search for quotes to back up your point if you want. I certainly can't be arsed hehe.

    Oct 17th, 2012 - 01:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pirat-Hunter

    “Parallels between the British Empire and the New World Order Empire are striking... The British Empire was built by colonizing other countries, seizing their natural resources, and shipping them to England to feed the British industrialists' factories. In the wake of the “red coats” invasions, local cultures were often trampled and replaced by a “more progressive” British way of life.

    The Wall Street-dominated NWO Empire is being built by colonizing other countries with foreign loans or investments. When the fish is firmly on the hook, the NWO financial terrorists pull the plug, leaving the unsuspecting victim high and dry. And begging to be rescued.

    In comes the International Monetary Fund (IMF). Its bailout recipes - privatization, trade liberalization and other austerity reforms - amount to seizing the target countries' natural and other resources, and turning them over to the NWO elites - just as surely as the British Empire did by using cruder methods.”
    http://www.truthinmedia.org/Bulletins2002/2-2.html
    We don't need no sticking ship let's take it to international courts. There are better things to do with tax payers funds, Like supplying food and goods to the Iranian people.:-)
    http://www.truthinmedia.org/Bulletins2002/2-2.html

    Oct 17th, 2012 - 01:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Britninja

    Off-topic. Doesn't Pirat-Hunter look like a serial killer:

    http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=332871196758497&set=pb.100001068575678.-2207520000.1350436674&type=1&theater

    Oct 17th, 2012 - 01:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    @86Brit ninja

    Yes, you found him - looks unbalanced!!

    Well done Britninja!!!

    Oct 17th, 2012 - 02:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pirat-Hunter

    you too homos still fantasizing about Argentine guys? Join the gang of child molesters, I think one of your other tart boyfriend troll terrest is somewhere in a closet. . Why don't you too join him.

    I love CFK and I hope she doesn't give this blood suckers a cent, Argentina is much better of building a nuclear defence program. I say lets take it to the international courts.
    http://www.truthinmedia.org/Bulletins2002/2-2.html

    Oct 17th, 2012 - 02:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Arifu_Gobakuwi

    Comment removed by the editor.

    Oct 17th, 2012 - 03:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • surfer

    garbage

    Oct 17th, 2012 - 04:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LEPRecon

    Hey pretend African/AG/TTT/Tobias or whoever else you're pretending to be today.

    Is La Campora still paying you? If they are they should stop because your posts lately smack of increasing desperation to distract people from the humiliation of having your countries flag ship impounded due to owed debt.

    Really, bringing in a subject that has no relevance at all to this thread.

    Yup La Campora should fire you.

    Oh by the way. Ghana still has your ship. Your deadbeat government should pay its debts to save the Argentine people any further humiliation on the international stage.

    Oct 17th, 2012 - 05:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • toooldtodieyoung

    89 Arifu_Gobakuwi

    Please see the post at 80.

    Britninja has said it all and now you are becoming a bore ( yawn ) go and play with the fairies you sad, deluded fool.

    Oct 17th, 2012 - 06:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Santa Fe

    89.. busted 80- sums you up soooo well. distracto Troll and not a very good one

    cant see how the extradition of a computer hacker relates to the cheif of your tinpot navy being sacked because you cant pay your bills????

    Oct 17th, 2012 - 07:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • HansNiesund

    Arifu Gobakuwi is NOT Tobias the Truth Telling Troll, and he's not Arifu Gobakuwi either. He is a Nigerian scammer called Abegunde Ibukun Opeyemi, who has stolen the Troll's identity and everything else he ever had.

    Opeyemi just followed his usual MO to take down the Troll. He lurked on mercopress for weeks, getting to know the posters, casting his net for the precise mixture of hubris and paranoia that puts food on the table for himself and his 27 wives in the Gulf.

    It wasn't long before he hit on the Troll, and he knew he'd hit the jackpot.

    In a carefully crafted email he told the Troll he was Mr Adebanjo A. Adefarakan, Chief Financial Officer of a shadowy patriotic organisation too secret to name, but known to outsiders as the Argentine Anglophobic Alliance.

    As befits its purpose of destroying the British Empire, the AAA held substantial secret funds lodged in a supersaver interest bearing account at the Bank of England in Threadneedle Street, London. But enemies were closing in. An unholy alliance of MI6, the Special Branch, the CIA, the Illuminati, and the Association of Anglo-Saxon Argentinophobes were lurking already at the bus stop outside, and could seize the funds at any minute!

    What was desperately needed was a true patriot, such as the Troll, to whom the funds could be transferred before all were lost. Could the Troll provide his name, address, and bank account number?

    Well, the Troll didn't hesitate. Not only did he provide his name, address, and bank account number, he also provided his multifarious trolling identities all over the Internet. And once he'd looted the Troll's piggy bank, Opeyemi twisted the knife and began trolling as the King of the Trolls. That's how he's here now.

    The real Troll survived on food parcels from the British Red Cross for a while, and has now found a job as a dishwasher/delivery boy in a pizzeria in Mendoza. He has changed his views, and now believes Italians responsible for all the world's ills.

    Oct 17th, 2012 - 07:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LightThink

    89
    you might be rightful.

    Oct 17th, 2012 - 09:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Santa Fe

    94 - jajaja it could be true

    but prob more like a sad act internet troll with multiple logins.

    Oct 17th, 2012 - 11:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Elio_0j0s_Amarillos

    Hah, how this starving recession plagued britgringoos hate the Argies simply because they don't like them, and call the Brits out on their proven track record of world Pariah.

    Oct 17th, 2012 - 02:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @94 Very good. : )

    Oct 17th, 2012 - 03:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Naw...we hate the rg's because they are slackers

    Oct 17th, 2012 - 03:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conor J

    @94
    Loving it, I think you have a knack for story telling.

    Oct 17th, 2012 - 03:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    7 Elio_ojos_Amarillos
    “Hah, how this starving recession plagued britgringoos hate the Argies simply because they don't like them”

    As a Brit I can only say you have a deluded sense of self-importance.

    I don’t think anything of the argies and most certainly not enough to hate them.

    Have you never heard the saying ‘love and hate are the opposite sides of the same coin’? Clue: you have to think something about them to hate them.

    Now go back into your La Camping it up box, that’s a good little boy.

    BTW I suggest you go to the witch doctor and get something for those jaundiced eyes of yours. LOLs

    Oct 17th, 2012 - 03:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    Someone at the Argentine Admiralty is very busy as we write, scribbling away with a red crayon, colouring out ports where they can not call at. Okay it's a joke, but probably not to far from the truth. embarrassing or what? fancy not being able to call at a port, because there may be a bailiff waiting to greet you. I can imagine how their navy personel feel, shamed, that's how.

    Oct 17th, 2012 - 03:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    #103 I don't really think it's of concern anymore. That was most likely the only blue water vessel they use. Not that they do not have other blue water vessel, they just can't import enough fuel to fill the ships.
    Can you imagine being in the Navy an NOT seeing the world? That's typical the lure to join the Navy. But then again, I heard that in the RG navy, 500 sailors go out to sea and 250 couples return.......now they can marry and have a full naval wedding! I bet that shivered their timbers!
    Low and behold.......#103 titty boi give up on arifu......lol

    Oct 17th, 2012 - 03:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    These freaking names these trolls make up!

    Oct 17th, 2012 - 03:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    Cap
    It's the sound you make when you've been chewing Novacane.

    Oct 17th, 2012 - 04:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    @105 Abunghole Hokum Opyehol

    @101 You've turned Arifu back into a TTToad !!!

    Oct 17th, 2012 - 04:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Abegunde Ibukun Opeyemi

    @108
    Good sir you are correct.
    The spell to which I allude above purges the malevolence from its target. You should notice a calmer, more gracious, more balanced troll.

    Please nominate other trolls you would like to have purged.

    Barka da rana.

    Oct 17th, 2012 - 05:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pirat-Hunter

    ignore US and UK the envy of those people is soo thick it smells like dead corps,
    We love CFK that's why we voted her into office, we demand she takes the theft of Libertad to the international court or expropiate ghana's embassy in Argentina or decaren war and take the ship by force or fill the streets of ghana with guns as USA and UK did in Afghanistan, Iraq, libya, syria and egypt, do as the white man does the KKK can't kill everyone, let's step up the rettoric and end the tyrants misery.
    http://www.gregpalast.com/the-globalizer-who-came-in-from-the-cold/
    http://www.gregpalast.com/the-globalizer-who-came-in-from-the-cold/
    Argentina doesn't need a relic or a museum sail. no navy in the world uses this none technology ship. What Argentina really needs is a nuclear defense program as The one in USA and UK. Let's not follow what they say let's do as they do.
    http://www.gregpalast.com/the-globalizer-who-came-in-from-the-cold/
    That's all, no more nor less. I am not here to chat with homos so hold your hormones I am not a child. We all know what the perverts who travel do to kids. yankygal was telling us how she goes to a house in Argentina to molest Bolivian and Paraguay children she was talking about it at #65 and #67 was mad for exposing their special spot while mercopress deleted my comment to protect child molesters and pervs. But it all good that how the english people are I am used to it. I know them well enough. And I don't even speak English that well, Imagine if I did.

    Oct 17th, 2012 - 05:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • HansNiesund

    @107

    Shame on you, Opeyemi! Giving him the Yellow Eye of Boko is one thing, but look at the deterioration in his posts since you stole all his books. The least you could do is give him back his Dictionary of English Archaisms, his Compendium of Spurious Neologisms, and even his German grammar with the missing erratum slips that got him all confused about the use of his passive. As it stands he is coming across almost as thick as Dany Berger or Pirat-Hunter and I'm sure not even you would wish such a fate on anybody.

    Oct 17th, 2012 - 05:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    @109 Abegunde

    Thank you.

    I nominate Pirat-hunter for purging, also.

    Oct 17th, 2012 - 05:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Ayayay

    Lol props @94

    Oct 17th, 2012 - 06:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    with 71% (29.6 million) of the population voting age, 79% (23.4 million)actually voted and of that 54% (12.7 million) voted for her. Of that, 30% (3.8 million) has voters regret. That leaves 8.9 million in love with her. Interst is that she won 54 to 46, 4.5% of the ballots were invalidated, just enough for her to win.
    Wake up and visit the cesspool you are a desendant of.

    Oct 17th, 2012 - 06:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Giorgio_O._Tsoukalos

    So “Hans Niesund” is non-other than an editor or some sort of crony running Mercopress. He finally decided that the truth was “too hard to bare”, and is now resorting to making martyrs out of Arifu_Gobakuwi and the (short lived) Elio_0j0s_Amarillos (he will return some day). Arifu was gunned down by Abeguned a.k.a Hans Niesund a.k.a Mecropress insider.

    Of course in the meantime such affable characters like “Conqueror” are given a free pass. hahahaha, how predictably weak.

    Of course then the mantra is “freedom of speech Argentina!”, when they don't practice it themselves!

    I am officially a convert of the mighty Truth_Telling_Troll, and I will carry his legacy and that of his disciples Arifu and Elio.

    There is a conspiracy here, and I will uncover it. May Nabiru shine as a luminary to my quest.

    Oct 17th, 2012 - 07:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • HansNiesund

    @113

    Tobias, if you're going to be Greek now, shouldn't that be “Giorgios”?

    Oct 17th, 2012 - 07:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Giorgio_O._Tsoukalos

    @114

    And who are you to determine what is Proper Greek? Stick to trying to eliminate any accounts whose contributors don't agree with your Hate Argentina Exterminate them they are vermin line.

    Oct 17th, 2012 - 07:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    All you latins a fucked in the heads.

    Oct 17th, 2012 - 07:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CR

    @ 116 Conqueror/Captain Poop!

    ....and you insists be married to a “latin”woman?.....is that your “choice”?

    Oct 17th, 2012 - 08:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • HansNiesund

    @115

    Okay, Gorgeous Giorgios it is, then.

    For the rest, you seem to be confusing me with a Dalek. I am not in fact a Dalek, I have no connection with mercopress, and I am not Abegunde Ibukun Opeyemi either. I just wish I had his money, even if it was initially somebody else's money, although he can keep his 27 wives. Sheesh! I would probably spend some of the money on retsina though. Wouldn't you?

    Oct 17th, 2012 - 08:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    You latins here, not my latina

    Oct 17th, 2012 - 09:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Giorgio_O._Tsoukalos

    @118

    Hahaha, you've incontestably lost grip of the handles. Good luck to you, I'll send a request that your padded walls have the Union Jack (with or without Saint Andrews'? Might as well not be improvident and have to redo the decor in a year or two).

    Oct 17th, 2012 - 09:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • HansNiesund

    @120

    I'm sure if you ask nicely the nurse will be impressed with your spirit of economy, though perhaps less so with your continuing delusions.

    Oct 17th, 2012 - 09:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Giorgio_O._Tsoukalos

    @122

    How many have claimed to be the 2nd coming of Jesus?

    One must expect the same when it comes to the return of Truth Telling Troll... but we know you are a charlatan. Now go start your little cult and then have them jump to the sea with you, or burn a compound, wait for a magical comet, or drink some cool-aid... all of which are fine and proud anglo-protestant religious/cultural traditions.

    Oct 17th, 2012 - 11:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • HansNiesund

    Strange things going on in this thread, with mysterious disappearing posts.

    What, for example, has happened to the confession of Abegunde Ibukun Opeyemi, originally posted at @105?

    And the Troll's God delusion originally posted at @122?

    Whose operation could this be?

    Oct 18th, 2012 - 10:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Giorgio_O._Tsoukalos

    Who are you kidding Hans aka Abegunde Ibukun aka Mercopress editor? Allow me to disabuse you from your flummoxed condition:

    It was you posting as an impostor claiming to be the resurrected TTT (may the Annunaki guide him and reveal him to us as our lodestar), and then you yourself deleted the post, so that yo could now perform this supposedly extemporaneous yet artless “discombobulated” game.

    Notice you did not simply remove the content (leaving the famous “comment removed by editor” tag), for added “consiparotial” effect. The posts themselves were obliterated... a coruscate indication since when we feign behavior we tend to exaggrerate it which dissembles our guile.

    You may fool the mere mortals, but not me. Nabiru radiates its star-wisdom upon me.

    Oct 18th, 2012 - 01:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Everyone seems ashamed to be south american now.....bahahahahahahaha

    Oct 18th, 2012 - 02:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • HansNiesund

    @124

    Dear Trollopoulous, most readers are aware by now that neither reason, evidence, not plain common sense are necessary for you to sustain your belief. But is it really necessary to keep proving it repeatedly?

    Oct 18th, 2012 - 05:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • IsoldedePavo

    @125 Conqueror?Captain PUP
    Please...tell everyone that I am your wife...please....tell them that I am your “MRS” please...I can't keep the secret no more...
    I am Isolde your wife....accept it
    or
    I file for divorce,...
    .... you old irish man!

    Oct 18th, 2012 - 08:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @126 HansNiesund,
    Trollopoulous, l love it! LOL
    @127 SussieUS,
    ldiota, you are not fit to be a MRS. A wife.
    A wife has a position of responsibility & as far as l can make out, you Argentines are NEVER responsible for anything.
    lt is always someone else's fault.
    What sane man would marry a crazy popsy like you?

    Oct 19th, 2012 - 10:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • shb

    @pirat-hunter

    I'd love to see CFK and co try to take anybody to court over this.

    You've brought it on yourselves.

    Pay back the billions you owe the world.......................

    I'm laughing fit to burst over your countries utter incompetence.

    Oct 19th, 2012 - 03:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    shb it would be an RG court....aka...a kangaroo court.

    Oct 19th, 2012 - 06:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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