“Political mission” sent to Ghana for release of ARA Libertad returns empty handed
The Argentine tight-lipped ‘political’ delegation sent to Ghana to try and achieve the release of the Navy’s flagship ARA Libertad impounded by a US based fund and confirmed by an Accra court, is returning to Buenos Aires empty handed not before experiencing a tense incident with the crew of the vessel docked in Tema.
According to news reports in Buenos Aires when the delegation made up of the two deputy ministers from Foreign Affairs and Defence, Eduardo Zuaim and Alfredo Forti arrived at the vessel with a message “of greetings and support from the Argentine people” the reply from cadets and crew of the detained vessel was “ice cold and at all enthusiastic”.
ARA Libertad has been retained since 2 October, among its crew are cadets invited from several different countries, the daily docking fee is 50.000 dollars plus legal defence costs, and from the moment the ‘political’ mission is back on its way to Buenos Aires, prospects are not encouraging.
Apparently after the visitors left there was a “sigh of relief” because some members of the crew confessed to the officers they wanted “to punch them in the face”.
“To the uncertainty about what is going on must be added that officers do not inform the crew. Captain Lucio Salonio instructions are that he acts as if it was ‘business as usual’, with on board activity as normal as possible to life on sea or in some visiting port”, indicate the reports.
Apparently the political delegation was unable to convince the Ghana government ‘to twist the arm’ of the courts and two diplomats were left in Accra, the Argentine ambassador in Nigeria and the consul in Lagos, to continue with the litigation, for which they count with the support and logistics from the Brazilian embassy in Accra that also has strong political links with the African government. Argentina has no embassy in Accra.
The New York based fund NML is demanding principal and interest from Argentine sovereign bonds, approximately 320 million dollars, and the Ghana court confirmed the impound. Depositing a 20 million dollars bail the vessel would be released but Argentina refuses point blank such an option.
Meanwhile this week’s resignation of the Military Strategic Intelligence chief, a very close advisor of Defence minister Arturo Puricelli and with excellent links with the Navy command, is seen as an increasing weakening of Defence’s position in the issue, despite the fact the world tours of navy vessels are an ‘inter-ministerial’ decision.
Maria Lourdes Puente Olivera with a degree in political science was the first woman to reach the top job in one of the three branches in which Argentine state intelligence is now divided. Before, she belonged to naval intelligence. Puente Olivera became the fourth known victim of the ARA Libertad controversy together with the Chief of the Navy and two other top naval officers.
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How insulting can the Argies get? Have they not heard of Magna Carta
They left empty handed. Chuckle Chuckle!
Apparently after the visitors left there was a “sigh of relief” because some members of the crew confessed to the officers they wanted “to punch them in the face”.
the story that just keeps giving lol
The stupidity and arrogance of these RG hooligans is breathtaking.
They have have no idea how a functioning democracy works.
Sickening
it is so nice to follow the story of the kitchencrew of housewife ck. when will they lift the knifes against each other?
So basically they tried to bribe the Ghanaians, and failed.
Who is CFK gonna blame this time? Apparently nothing that goes wrong in Argentina is her fault despite the fact that she's President.
CFK:I thought you said our Pampers jet can take on the evil English?
PutridJelly: Er, I asked the pilots and they said they wanted some Typhoons.
CFK: Well easy we take out another loan, buy the Eurofighters from England then just don't pay them back.
Putridjelly: Well we are brassy enough to try anything but what about some Astute submarines?
CFK: No way, I want my overseas money stash overseas in case we get kicked out.
Putrid jelly: OK, can we salvage the Santa Fe?
Ha, ha, ha, oh joy!
I wonder how many more of TMBOA will get rid of?
www.truthinmedia.org/Bulletins2002/2-2.html
Just a few points.
1. You can't 'kidnap' a ship.
BooHoo Argentina...still no flagship, go cry some more :) :)
My previous post was incomplete so I'll start again.
1. You can't 'kidnap' a ship.
2. You won't be saving taxpayers money if you're being hit a $50,000 a day port fees.
3. You can't build a nuclear defence programme with $20 million.
4. You're a tit!
My estimates of developing, building weapons and delivery systems, security of the weapons against terrorists, and general maintenance of those weapons and delivery systems would cost several billion US dollars, with an approximate US$20,000,000 annual maintenance cost.
If Argentina ever did get nuclear weapons hey probably wouldn't maintain them, or their delivery systems, jut like they haven't maintained their naval vessels.
PH is a deluded boy. It's easy to talk the talk, but not so easy to walk the walk.
Perfect example of the Argentine diplomats and Admiralty arrogance. Ghana is not going to be intimidated.
A warning to those who say goodriddance to the loss of a national symbol, especially striking ones colors in defeat. Voters will become very unhappy...
how about me....I'm scare
lol
Actually that would never happen,Argentina have no war heroes.
Hold firm and don't let the idle bluster intimidate you :)
That bipolar hag should just cough up the $ and put this to rest. I think she gets dumber every day.
I would query the wharfage cost of $50,000 a day. That is usually tonnage based and I would have expected it to be waived on a courtesy call by a navy ship. Maybe it is charged on a sliding scale.... first week free, $2k a day second week, $4k the next, $16k the next..... that would bankrupt Casa Rosada muy pronto....
Frank I feel for most any military because they are the ususual pawn of most poilticians, one that have control over them I mean.
You say:
“ A warning to those who say good-riddance to the loss of a national symbol, especially striking ones colors in defeat. Voters will become very unhappy...”
I say:
The “Libertad”, pretty as She is, is NOT a national symbol.
It’s no more then a symbol of the privileged military elite.
A symbol, many of us would be happy to see disappear.
Besides; the Libertad (as her sister Esmeralda) is stained with the blood of opponents to the tyranny….
The Plan Condor was to involve every branch of the Armed Farces in the killings…. and so it did.
Anyhow…. It seems that finally that pretty ship is fulfilling a useful mission…..
Any defeat to the “Vulture Funds” would be a victory for the progressive forces all over the World.
Looks like Argentina is going to have to cut that ship out, since Ghana has committed a clear belligerent act and has refused peaceful opportunities to clear up the situation.
Bahahahahaa
With what? You don't have anything that can get across the Atlantic!
Idiot
Good old Argentina never fails to deliver at embarrassing itself on the world stage.
Whats next from the ministry of maniacs?
Perhaps you should try reading up on the judgement of the Ghana court. www.graphic.com.gh/news/page.php?news=24264&title=Argentine%20Government%20Loses%20Bid%20To%20Free%20Naval%20Ship%20Libertad
It seems they weren't terribly impressed with the argument that signing an agreement to waive sovereign immunity doesn't count if you're Argentina.
I can perfectly imagine the frustration and anger of the crew and officers caught up in this mess.
What sent a chill to the back of my neck was to read: “The court further ordered the Harbour Master, whether by himself or his assigns or agents, to preserve the presence of the ship and also go on board to take possession of all its mandatory documents.” For a commanding officer to surrender his ship's documents is one step below having to strike the ship's colors, which is a disgrace. The captain and first officer will be humiliated. I feel so sorry for them.
Think - define progressive for us please. I have yet to ever see a group of socialists progress anything except poverty, oppression and misery.
Now there is a first. How bad does a country have to be for the military to be considered an elite class of society? The military is many things, tough, relentless, elite trained force, but never an elite class of society. They are usually pawns for politicians.
Beef, I fully agree with your last statement. And as cuntina kirchner said, “the model is not finished”. That's because some RG's still have money, land and houses to take.
You say:
“I have yet to ever see a group of socialists progress anything except poverty, oppression and misery.”
I say:
You mean...pauver, oppresed and miserable like the part of the world my Clan originated from?
(Social-democratic Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Finland, Germany, Holland)
Maybe you should travel a little more to democracies and not to all those arab autocracies, monarquies and dictatorships you so muchseem to favor.......
Get your thesaurus out and give us laugh instead of the above tedium!
But I guess when its for Argentina's benefit you are not in favor of the rule of law. Of course, typical brit.
Oct 19th, 2012 - 07:14 pm
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If there are any Canadians here, you really need to get rid of alex vargas,,,,,,,aka the puddle hunter.
@22 Lou Spoo (#)
My previous post was incomplete so I'll start again.
1. You can't 'kidnap' a ship.
2. You won't be saving taxpayers money if you're being hit a $50,000 a day port fees.
3. You can't build a nuclear defence programme with $20 million.
4. You're a tit!
Well, here he is on facebook:
Lots of photos of snipers in Afghanistan, YPF flag, political cartoons about 'NATO should keep hands off Libya', many pics of Ghadaffy, Bin Laden - some anti-semitic stuff - brain-washed hater.
Falklands - pics of “ RG Governor”, Vernet and his grandmother, Malvinista maps etc.
www.facebook.com/avargas2001
Alex Vargas
www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=332871196758497&set=pb.100001068575678.-2207520000.1350436
Only in Argentina, would anyone think of something so incredibly stupid.
Which gives us a minor understanding of why Argentina is such a disaster.
Really? What does Chile produce after 30 years of development? Nothing.
Keep your arrogance to your military “might”. When it comes to actually producing industry, Chile is an utter failure. Once copper fades as a valuable, what the heck is there left?
m.youtube.com/index?&desktop_uri=%2F#/watch?feature=plpp&v=BQZbOY5Q3ZU
theintelhub.com/2012/02/23/trillion-dollar-terror-exposed-bush-fed-and-european-banks-in-15-trillion-fraud-all-documented/
m.youtube.com/index?&desktop_uri=%2F#/watch?v=Tym9AhMNcP0
There is strong belief here that we will enter into the club of a First World Nations in 2018. We lack nuclear power pltant
check mate
It's a shame. When he was the Troll, he had a style of his own and some originality in his positions. Now he's little better than second fiddle to the moron Alex Vargas.
Bring back the Troll, I say.
They, at least, are realists.
Lesson 101 in English (not American; not capitalising letters ignored)
(43) Beef
You say:
“I have yet to ever see a group of socialists progress anything except poverty, oppression and misery.”
I say:
You mean...pauver, oppresed (Sic: oppressed) and miserable like the part of the world my Clan originated from?
(Social-democratic Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Finland, Germany, Holland)
Maybe you should travel a little more to democracies and not to all those arab (Sic: Arab) autocracies, monarquies (Sic: monarchies) and dictatorships you so muchseem (Sic: much seem) to favour (Sic: favour).......
FOUR errors this time. I should start thinking Think, whether it was a good idea to take the piss out of me when I was being open and honest about learning Spanish.
@13 Well, alex, I see you're off on your usual hunt for a nuclear defence. Why don't you pop over the border and ask the Americans if they have anything they could sell you cheap. Given your country's expertise with munitions, we can confidently expect your “nuclear defence” to blow the place up. Saving us the trouble.
@32 I read your comment with interest. My initial impression was that it was going to be sane and intelligent. It wasn't. But perhaps you gave yourself a “get-out”. That's why most nations in Latin America today have positive growth, and increased social benefits.“ If only you'd inserted ”except argieland“!
@36 Of course it's a national symbol of argieland! Represents ineptitude, stupidity, embarrassment and failure.
@37 Sounds luike a ”sussie“.
@48 Mass deportations? How? AA doesn't go there.
@50 Who let them in? Wouldn't they sort of stand out?
@54 ”National security”? Since when has argieland had anything anyone would want?
@55 You don't have a lot of hope of entering the club of First World Nations. You need to look up what it means. Try this: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-world_nations On the other hand, if you stop kowtowing to argieland..........?
If you consider the current economic growth here in Chile with our very independent Central Bank and open private investment opportunities (exports are tax free) we seem to be on our way.
I made a typo on the last post that We lack nuclear power only because of our concern for earthquakes like in Japan.
Cheers!
If you had any guts (aka courage, balls, integrity, honesty, responsibility), you would understand that entering the club of First World Nations requires a little more than transferring your economy from goods to services. Why is it that LatAm countries can't understand “maturity”. Chile may be “advanced” in terms of “goods”. Otherwise they are shit. Democratic? Only when it suits! Free? Except that it has to obey argieland. And we mustn't forget that exchanging students with the Falklands isn't allowed. Goodbye Chile. You are “owned”. Will you be “Chile” province? Cowards!
Since you're an anti-American, here's a song for you ;)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWS-FoXbjVI
Enjoy
You really are a weapons-grade idiot of the highest order.
“There's a few thousands of illegal west africans in Argentina”
Argentina is and has always been an immigrant country, where nobody is illegal:
Fallo de Cámara asegura que “ningún ser humano es ilegal” www.cij.gov.ar/nota-7044-Fallo-de-Camara-asegura-que--ningun-ser-humano-es-ilegal-.html
Hahahahaha, yeah sure. Mass deportations, their coming. It's the law.
.............................Clown.............!!!!
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