Monday, December 3rd 2012 - 21:17 UTC

Argentine ambassador summoned over ‘intimidation’ to cruise lines calling in Falklands

Britain summoned Argentina's ambassador to London on Monday after masked men ransacked the offices of a shipping company in Buenos Aires, a move the Foreign Office alleged was aimed at deterring ships from visiting the disputed Falkland Islands.

FCO disappointed that it was necessary to formally summon ambassador Castro

The Foreign Office said the shipping firm, agents for a cruise company, had been attacked on November 19, causing the cancellation of a planned visit to the islands some 482 km off Argentina's coast.

Argentine President Cristina Fernandez has launched a wide-ranging diplomatic offensive to try to assert Argentina's claim to the Islands 30 years after the Falklands war, angering Britain which says the Islanders want to continue to remain a largely autonomous British Overseas Territory Territory and are expected to ratify it for the world in a March referendum.

The Foreign Office, which labelled the shipping office incident a “violent act of intimidation”, said it had summoned Alicia Castro, Argentina's envoy to London, after earlier invitations had been ignored.

A British official with knowledge of the matter said Britain was concerned it had not received assurances that British-linked firms would not be attacked again. The official said Britain was also worried the attackers may have had state backing.

“It is shameful that elements within a large country like Argentina should seek to strangle the economy of a small group of islands. Such action benefits nobody and only condemns those who lend it support,” the Foreign Office said in a statement.

“We were disappointed that it was necessary formally to summon the ambassador into the Foreign Office. We made several attempts to arrange for a less formal meeting, each of which the Argentine embassy declined,” the statement said.

The Argentine embassy was not immediately available for comment, but the British official said after the meeting that Castro had been “very cross” to have been summoned and that she had accused the Foreign Office of “wasting her time”.

The British official said Britain believed Argentina had been contacting cruise companies and other firms to try to pressure them into not doing business with the Falkland Islands.

Cristina Fernandez has accused London of maintaining “colonial enclaves” and has demanded the two countries sit down to discuss the disputed Islands' sovereignty - a suggestion Britain has rejected.

Lawmakers in Buenos Aires province passed a bill in August banning ships involved in business activities off the Falkland Islands from mooring at its ports, part of Argentina's drive to discourage oil exploration in the area.

Argentina had already banned ships flying the Falklands flag from entering the country's ports. The regional Mercosur trade group backed the move.
 

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1 ptolemy (#) Dec 03rd, 2012 - 09:24 pm Report abuse
Brown shirts in action. More to come.
2 Pirat-Hunter (#) Dec 03rd, 2012 - 09:36 pm
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3 Anbar (#) Dec 03rd, 2012 - 09:37 pm Report abuse
Can you imagine the uproar if an Argentine company's office had been attacked on the Falklands....

SUMMON THE UN SECURITY COUNCIL!

WORLD PEACE IS THREATENED!

Numptis...

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Castro is a bit of a wet lettuce isn't she? She really doesn't convey anything ambassadorial at all.... playing !hard to find” ans obviously hiding from invitations is kinda dumb, to say the least.

Unless she deliberately wants to hike the attention she gets, of course....
bit of a drama-queen like her boss in fact. ;-0
4 Chatcat (#) Dec 03rd, 2012 - 09:37 pm Report abuse
If she is very cross then she should be sent back to her country...a very undiplomatic diplomat.
5 Raven (#) Dec 03rd, 2012 - 09:46 pm Report abuse
TMBOA can continue her tirade. She's doing well, masses of trade disputes, not paying debts, strikes, power cuts, having her ships impounded in foreign ports, high inflation, large protests against her in the capital, stealing company assets, screaming 'MILITARIZATION' over someone flying a bright yellow rescue helicopter 400 miles from her homeland, and that's only the things that we know about from this year alone.

Meanwhile, the Falklanders will press on, growing their economy, diversifying their income streams and carry on regardless.

Good luck Falklanders, may you enjoy the fruits of your labours which you richly deserve. The ignorance coming from the capital city of your near neighbour should bother you not.

Good luck TMBOA, may you be overthrown, have ''your'' assets stripped from you, and left to languish in Venezuala, acting as Hugo's Courtesan. Just don't drag Argentina down to the level of where your nipples would be without the plastic surgery.
6 surfer (#) Dec 03rd, 2012 - 09:56 pm Report abuse
there seems to be a bit of confusion regarding the identity of pirates in the South Atlantic.

Only one country is attempting to colonise, harrass, intimidate, steal, disobeys international law, ignore it's debt obligation..etc etc....

The Argentine Govt. are indeed outlaws and pirates, end of.
7 ElaineB (#) Dec 03rd, 2012 - 09:56 pm Report abuse
When I get back to England I shall let the FCO know that Maximo was behind the masked raid. Not physically because I doubt they could make a mask large enough and he certainly couldn't run away afterwards but they are his dogs being unleashed. (Obviously, the FCO already know)

Castro is uncouth.
8 Pvdv (#) Dec 03rd, 2012 - 10:09 pm Report abuse
Sickening what argentine officials beleive to be acceptable behaviour. Its a country of savages that think to be Europese n but act as indians
9 Britworker (#) Dec 03rd, 2012 - 10:09 pm Report abuse
I do hope they treated her with the contempt she truly deserves. What a laugh, wasting her time, what else does she have to do, isn't that what she is there for?
10 Gordo1 (#) Dec 03rd, 2012 - 10:18 pm Report abuse
Is Argentina aware that in English and in Spanish “enclave” has the same meaning. The Falkland Islands are totally surrounded by international waters and, thus, are NOT an enclave.

I am so pleased that this arrogant woman has, at least, been made to respect diplomatic niceties and has been made obliged to face the displeasure of the British people.
11 Xect (#) Dec 03rd, 2012 - 10:21 pm Report abuse
LOL @2 - Pirate Hunter

- More worthless threats that we know you can't backup with action. It's irrelevant anyway since we know anyone who tried such a thing would meet the might of the Royal Navy and have a rapid death.

Anyway back to the subject, maybe its time the UK removed Castro from her position and insisted Argentina sends someone who is competent.
12 redpoll (#) Dec 03rd, 2012 - 10:40 pm Report abuse
Alicia likes to dress up seemingly. This time she got a dressing down for unladylike behaviour
13 Joe Bloggs (#) Dec 03rd, 2012 - 10:44 pm
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14 That British Guy (#) Dec 03rd, 2012 - 10:55 pm Report abuse
@2 I've reported you for advocating a terrorist attack on the Falklands. Frankly you should be reported to MI5, too.
15 Troy Tempest (#) Dec 03rd, 2012 - 10:58 pm Report abuse
@02 Pirat - Hunter

Please provide is with your name and address and any other contact information so that we can get ahold of you for the materials needed.

Do you have any useful weapons in your possession?
16 redpoll (#) Dec 03rd, 2012 - 10:58 pm Report abuse
Well soon the British Ambassador to Argentina is going to be “summoned” by Timmerman on some pretext or other which no doubt he will be very cross about. If he refuses to meet, what then? Going to be an interesting diplomatic quandry!
17 Pete Bog (#) Dec 03rd, 2012 - 11:01 pm Report abuse
@2
“I offer 1000 $ reward to anyone willing to sink any pirate ships around Islas Malvinas”

Why don't you send your money to NML tohelp get the Libertard back?

Then you could launch it towards the Falkland Islands and send another ship to pick up the survivors after the Falkland Islands Defence Force sinks it?
18 so_far (#) Dec 03rd, 2012 - 11:07 pm Report abuse
“....Castro had been “very cross” to have been summoned and that she had accused the Foreign Office of “wasting her time”.”

Enough said....only summon busy people when you decide to obey international law and United Nations Resolutions.

If you dont like it please Mr Hague kick off her......please do it.
19 ElaineB (#) Dec 03rd, 2012 - 11:07 pm Report abuse
@14 & 15. I think someone posted his FB page link but I didn't look at it so cannot confirm. He is just a malcontent living outside of the Canadian society where his Argentine parents sought refuge when they could not prosper in Argentina. He is Canadian but lives a fantasy that his parent's homeland is paradise. I have suggested many times that he should move there but for some unknown reason he does NOT want to live in paradise.

He is completely harmless but I think he fails to understand his comments could be taken seriously and get him in hot water. He is no terrorist threat.
20 redpoll (#) Dec 03rd, 2012 - 11:08 pm Report abuse
@14 I wouldnt bother reporting him. I am sure the Canadians are well aware of who is and will pick him up in due course when he oversteps thier tolerance mark. Remember thier motto - the Mounties Always Get thier Man
21 Frank (#) Dec 03rd, 2012 - 11:09 pm Report abuse
A 'formal summons'...that would be like a summons to the Head's office for the cuts.

Wasting her time? What did she have planned? Shopping?
22 redpoll (#) Dec 03rd, 2012 - 11:14 pm Report abuse
Shopping? So thats why shes cross. No dollars or GBP in her account to do that so throws a tantrum
23 Troy Tempest (#) Dec 03rd, 2012 - 11:34 pm Report abuse
@12 redpoll

“Alicia likes to dress up seemingly. This time she got a dressing down for unladylike behaviour”

Yes, she seems to like posing for 'glam' shots.

She's out of her depth with the FO.
No amount of pillow-fluffing is going to get her out of this one.

In the end, just another bitchy stewardess!
24 Nostrolldamus The 2nd (#) Dec 03rd, 2012 - 11:45 pm Report abuse
Funny how an alledged terrorist attack on the FI is removed, but the constant calls for a nuclear attack on Argentina always remain.

Well, that explains the morality of Mercopress, and of the anti-argies.
25 HansNiesund (#) Dec 03rd, 2012 - 11:46 pm Report abuse
@18

Personally, I don't think we should kick her out. I think we should appoint to Argentina an ambassador of similar calibre. Mr Bean, perhaps. Or a Gumby. With an ASBO. Someone at least who'd feel at home in the local circles of government and diplomacy.
26 Ernie4001 (#) Dec 03rd, 2012 - 11:49 pm Report abuse
Misfortunately this kind of behavior of violent incidents is recurrent in some argentine nationalist. Ignoring that at the end of the day it will harm more their cause.
27 ElaineB (#) Dec 03rd, 2012 - 11:51 pm Report abuse
@24 You are free to report offensive posts.

Always trying to paint yourself the victim.
28 Nostrolldamus The 2nd (#) Dec 03rd, 2012 - 11:54 pm Report abuse
@27

And you are free to be an utter moron aren't yo?

I don't like to report posts. HOWEVER, I have on occasion reported a few and guess what?? NOTHING HAPPENS.

I'm talking about things like accusing me of sexually abusing young children, repeatedly. I reported those... they stayed.

Mercopress is completely biased, just accept it and move on. And btw, I'm fine with that, I want all voices to be heard online. That does not mean I can't call the cat black if it's black.

On your way now.
29 Huntsman Extraordinaire (#) Dec 04th, 2012 - 12:07 am Report abuse
Sign this petition today! Show the government we are all tired of the lack of action!

epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/42558
30 ptolemy (#) Dec 04th, 2012 - 12:22 am Report abuse
@7
“but they are his dogs being unleashed.” Not that I don't believe it, but do you have a source?
31 Troy Tempest (#) Dec 04th, 2012 - 12:22 am Report abuse
FB for “NuKular-Alex” Alex Vargas

Pirat-Hunter appears to live in Toronto - all his references in his posts are from there.

Alex Vargas went to Toronto's Vaughan Rd Academy HS.

PH seems to have no knowledge of life in Argentina, first hand and does not seem to travel.
No passport - criminal record? Can leave, but cannot re-enter Canada???

Ken Ridge remembers Alex Vargas posting as himself on MercoPress before the name change to PH.

AV says lives in Salta, but no photos of him there.
Here is FB for Alex Vargas - you be the judge.

Check out his photos and his LIKES (hates)

PS - has removed his La Campora links

www.facebook.com/search/results.php?q=Alex%20Vargas%2C&init=quick&tas=0.7408496649381917#!/avargas2001
32 Anbar (#) Dec 04th, 2012 - 12:28 am Report abuse
“”I don't like to report posts. HOWEVER, I have on occasion reported a few and guess what?? NOTHING HAPPENS.“””

waaaaah waaaah waaaaah

maybe MercoPress only take notice of real accounts and not sock-puppets?

It would explain why you keep being ignored. :-|
33 Nostrolldamus The 2nd (#) Dec 04th, 2012 - 12:44 am Report abuse
Well, that proves the atrocious standards that the anglo-saxon culture has. If you don't agree with the opinions of someone, treat them differently under the law.

Par for the course in this culture, for sure.
34 so_far (#) Dec 04th, 2012 - 12:46 am Report abuse
#25 Hans, you say:

“ I think we should appoint to Argentina an ambassador of similar calibre. Mr Bean, perhaps...”

Welll....you appoint this smart individual to your very only one “friend” country in the comple LatAm......

....what Argentina could expect worse than that ?

Ok, Im starting to worry.

www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/oct/16/uk-ambassador-chile-argentina-tweet
35 Nostrolldamus The 2nd (#) Dec 04th, 2012 - 01:04 am Report abuse
British diplomacy is an oxymoron. Their diplomats the last two centuries have functioned with a colonialist militaristic threat behind their backs. They really think people “complying” with them during this time was a result of their masterfully astute interlocutor skills.

Now that they are no longer a major military threat in the world, they don't know how to operate “diplomatically”, which is why they are increasingly getting into trouble in many parts of the world.
36 so_far (#) Dec 04th, 2012 - 01:45 am Report abuse
# 35

Interesting to remark...

“ Now that they are no longer a major military threat in the world....”

Threat......

How is possible a major and main member of Security Council with veto power is seen by the complete world as a threat ???

They dont obey reolutions, they dont respect international law, they kill hundred of thousand inocents civilians, kids, women, etc in Iraq, Afghanistan and Lybia just the last few years........and still lecture others ?.

This a crazy world......UN SC indeed need a drastic change ASAP and kick out this evil people of such high responsabilities they dont stand for.
37 Nostrolldamus The 2nd (#) Dec 04th, 2012 - 01:49 am Report abuse
@36

I said “major”. They can still cause bane and iniquity in specific theaters, but they are no longer a global menace, no European country is. But they still pursue diplomacy as if they were... it is a natural disconnect that happens to all declining powers.

The point was, that Europeans always laud, and preen, their diplomatic “skills”. There were no such skills.

I could also claim to have deft skills in this area, when holding a gun to your head and you being disarmed.
38 so_far (#) Dec 04th, 2012 - 01:56 am Report abuse
www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2TM6RyBrnQ
39 Pirat-Hunter (#) Dec 04th, 2012 - 02:36 am Report abuse
I never said anything about terror on anyone I was cheering for Argentina to apply the same laws UN gives australia against pirats who fish 6 kilograms of fish. We can also apply the laws UK uses in Antartica to take boats of fishermen and auction them. I think that if UK want to play fair Argentina has a lot of catching up to do, I support a nuclear defense program 100% made in Argentina as well as any international laws that can be used to punish the pirates, as is done by countries everywhere, this is not terrorism its international laws I think Argentina not only has the right but the obligation to punish this pirates. Let's cheer on and do as the UK and Australia do.
www.abc.net.au/environment/articles/2011/12/13/3389001.htm
en.mercopress.com/2012/09/15/funds-from-confiscated-illegal-fish-used-to-combat-poachers-in-southern-ocean
40 Troy Tempest (#) Dec 04th, 2012 - 03:49 am Report abuse
@39 ALEX

“I never said anything about terror on anyone I was cheering for Argentina to apply the same laws UN gives australia against pirats who fish 6 kilograms of fish.”

LIAR .

Your post was removed for inciting violence against vessels and personnel in the waters of the Falklands.

I recall you offered $1,000 payment and any equipment required for an attack.

Good judgement of the editors to have such a hateful appeal against civilians removed from the thread.

Hateful hypocrit.
41 Marcos Alejandro (#) Dec 04th, 2012 - 03:55 am Report abuse
Oil investor in Malvinas have released “Remake of the Titanic”

clip2net.com/s/2z7BB
42 so_far (#) Dec 04th, 2012 - 04:03 am Report abuse
# 41 Hola Marcos, thats mr Beef ?

:-)
43 Marcos Alejandro (#) Dec 04th, 2012 - 04:07 am Report abuse
Hola
Yes, that's Mr Beef :-))
44 Pirat-Hunter (#) Dec 04th, 2012 - 04:36 am Report abuse
As I recall I was talking about pirats and Islas malvinas Argentina, i never said a word about the british company you mention or any civilians, unless you consider pirates civilians as the editor did, by all means lead the laws to follow and stick to them so we can all have a fair play. I cheer UK and Australia in the way they treat pirates and encourage Argentina to treat pirates the same way, if you or mercopress don't like it you know who to complain to, I can't help you with your problems. I am not a brit I don't need to lie or hide.
VIVA CFK.
www.abc.net.au/environment/articles/2011/12/13/3389001.htm
Www.en.mercopress.com/2012/09/15/funds-from-confiscated-illegal-fish-used-to-combat-poachers-in-southern-ocean
45 XAVIERV (#) Dec 04th, 2012 - 04:50 am
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46 Troy Tempest (#) Dec 04th, 2012 - 05:10 am Report abuse
ha ha , a Troll panto - just u haters here now!!
47 slattzzz (#) Dec 04th, 2012 - 05:33 am Report abuse
“I cheer UK and Australia in the way they treat pirates and encourage Argentina to treat pirates the same way.”
Well seeming you have no resources to carry this out it's a bit of a non starter don't you think.
“I am not a brit I don't need to lie or hide.”
That why your hiding in Canada then?
48 Troy Tempest (#) Dec 04th, 2012 - 05:39 am Report abuse
@47 Slattzzzz

”That why your hiding in Canada then?'

LOL He claims on FB, to live in Salta, but there is no indication of that in his photos or his writing.
49 slattzzz (#) Dec 04th, 2012 - 06:08 am Report abuse
@48 he lives in Canada he's been found out
50 Pirat-Hunter (#) Dec 04th, 2012 - 06:42 am Report abuse
#47 and #48 lol if I am hiding in Canada this must mean brits hide in Islas malvinas Argentina, what a bunch of retards you brits are. Say are you still stalking Argentine men and children or are you normal now?
#49 lol wait don't tell me did you read that in the Internet
? Can I interest you in buying the cn tower?
www.abc.net.au/environment/articles/2011/12/13/3389001.htm
Www.en.mercopress.com/2012/09/15/funds-from-confiscated-illegal-fish-used-to-combat-poachers-in-southern-ocean
51 Gordo1 (#) Dec 04th, 2012 - 07:46 am Report abuse
Alicia Castro should be declared “persona non grata” by the British as her totally undiplomatic posturing in London is unacceptable. She is a disgrace.

I wonder how the Argentine Government would react if the British Ambassador in Buenos Aires were to behave in this way?
52 Xect (#) Dec 04th, 2012 - 08:22 am Report abuse
Go to love Pirat-Hunter's extreme and uneducated views.

And spouting hate against the British whilst living in a commonwealth country and then calling others retarded by making the argument based on some fantasy country that doesn't exist. Logical........

And if that wasn't bad enough he bases an argument on these fantasy islands the world doesn't recognize and are under the jurisdiction of the British for defence.

Could this be anymore bizarre?
53 Room101 (#) Dec 04th, 2012 - 09:03 am Report abuse
Gangster government.
54 David Cameron (#) Dec 04th, 2012 - 10:24 am Report abuse
Castro was very cross to be formally summoned. Well Castro We don't give a flying f*** that you are cross when we summon you to a meeting with your betters you will come on bended knee to grovel at the feet of far superior human beings.

If you had the sense that you were born with you would have come at the first invitation where I am sure we would have offered you tea and scones and we would have had a nice little chat about what what happened. But no you had to play hard ball so that's why we officially summoned you to give a good bollocking that has now gone out to the world news press agency's so that the whole world again knows what a small minded country that you come from is. And it once again shows to the world that Britain is right about your country. Now f*** of back to your embassy that we so gracelessly let you have in London and ponder on the words that were whispered in your ear lugs, namely don't f*** with the big boys or you might get hurt.
55 HansNiesund (#) Dec 04th, 2012 - 10:33 am Report abuse
@25

I don't recall our Benny getting summoned into the Foreign Ministry in Argentina. Of course maybe that's because he's actually the Ambassador to Chile.

But curiouser and curiouser, despite having offended Argentina, he doesn't seem to have been summoned into the Foreign Ministry in Chile either.

I wonder why that is?
56 reality check (#) Dec 04th, 2012 - 10:48 am Report abuse
Digressing to a totally unrelated matter, it has just been announced that William and Kate are to expect their first child, congratulations to them and I hope all goes well.

Why digress, well the child will be 3rd in line to the throne, that means in about 50 too 60 years time the Falkland Islanders will, if they still choose to, have a new soveriegn. Good news hey!
57 War Monkey (#) Dec 04th, 2012 - 10:50 am Report abuse
Sorry. I know this doesn't add anything to this 'debate' and I know it is childish but she looks to me like a pre op tranny. Does anybody know what is really under the bonnet?
58 ChrisR (#) Dec 04th, 2012 - 11:38 am Report abuse
57 War Monkey

LOLs
59 kelperabout (#) Dec 04th, 2012 - 12:00 pm Report abuse
Argentina would do well to start listening to the more caring people of the world. A recent letter from a visiting 1982 War Vet summed the Falkland Islands up when he wrote . If only the rest of the world would show such hospitality and friendliness as Falkland Islanders the world would be a better place to live in.

Pity that some choose to live by the sword. Argentina is slowley strangling the whole of South America and one day we are going to see a virtual repeat of the 1982 happen all over again. Way back then Argentina was in serious economic turmoil and to try and win her people over attacke the Falklands. Up till then most of the Latin American neighbours supported Argentina untill she invaded the Islands and realised that it was not going to save the leader ship they decided to reject the whinging Argies. Now they are all doing it again. Why the hell does all these Countries fall for the same stupid trap. Do they not realise that they too will one day suffer as well from the rest of the world. Argentina has went one step to far this time because they are interefering with international tourists and I am willing to bet that it will not be to long before these operators firmly tell Argentina whereto go.
60 reality check (#) Dec 04th, 2012 - 12:16 pm Report abuse
As opposed to Argentina telling the operators, “Where they can go” literally and geographically speaking.

You watch, the next thing they will require is for any ship entering the South Atlantic, to obtain prior clearance from them first!
61 Idlehands (#) Dec 04th, 2012 - 12:27 pm Report abuse
I don't think we should chuck out Alicia Castro.

I can only assume it is a difference in culture and perceptions as I doubt very much that Argentines comprehend how badly she comes across outside of South America.

She's an embarrassment so leave her to it.
62 Simon68 (#) Dec 04th, 2012 - 02:02 pm Report abuse
Please don't chuck out Ms. Castro, if you do she'll be back here making a damned nuissance of herself!!!!!

Anyway she's fairly good comedy material , isn't she?
63 briton (#) Dec 04th, 2012 - 02:19 pm Report abuse
we should have deported her,
but as an alternative, we should at the very least bann the argies ships, from british soil.
64 Shed-time (#) Dec 04th, 2012 - 02:48 pm Report abuse
Maybe while the FCO were inviting her to come and visi
65 reality check (#) Dec 04th, 2012 - 02:54 pm Report abuse
Look on the bright side, she did ask him if he wanted any duty frees from the trolley, before she left his office.
66 Shed-time (#) Dec 04th, 2012 - 02:58 pm Report abuse
@65 ho ho ho

What I was trying to say before I slipped was that @61 is correct. It doesn't matter how coquettishly she sits on her sofa, she's fundamentally a dreadful diplomat, and diplomacy is the only way that Argentina is going to get anywhere in this world. So with her sat there clogging up the pipes, nothing Argentina has to say is going to get acknowledged.

The most she seems to do is generate news stories for Mercopress readers to laugh at, because she rarely gets any screen-time on any other outlet.
67 reality check (#) Dec 04th, 2012 - 03:10 pm Report abuse
Must be a disheartening job though, trying to persuade the UK side to see her sides position. A bit like a mouse trying to mate with an elephant.
68 José Malvinero (#) Dec 04th, 2012 - 03:18 pm Report abuse
54 David Cameron,

“David Cameron”, what a beautiful pseudonym! All Englishmen are so sucks socks or sucks worse ...?
69 Nostrolldamus The 2nd (#) Dec 04th, 2012 - 03:20 pm Report abuse
@55

Because the UK is a disreputable government who is seen as a buffoon on the world stage, so no one is suprised the UK gov insults other countries, they do this as a matter of course. If one had to summon diplomats everytime the UK showed disdain and derision for another nation and culture, they migtht as well move all UK diplomats to the presidencial palace of the country in question.

@67

Nothing to do with a mouse or elephant. Read above.

The UK has NEVER respected the “other side's” opinion. It's always been you think like we think, to do as we demand (not as we do), or the highway. Name one time the UK has agreed with the “other side” and accepted their view.

You can't. And that's why no one takes the UK government and their claims of moral superiority seriously (except for you gullible Muppets).
70 Shed-time (#) Dec 04th, 2012 - 03:26 pm Report abuse
@67 It's disheartening insofar as she's only in London to make a nuisance of herself and nothing more. She seems to repeat the same stuff over and over.

@69 You're just an apologist to the upcoming totalitarian regime that is being built on the back of terrorists such as La Campora and their Fourth Reich. Why would anyone consider the opinion of such a body? We all know what they expect, subjugation of the masses to Uncle Adolf's political ideology and significant growth through acquisition of other people's territory. Major assets and your economy are now governed by members of the Fourth Reich Comittee who have basically done little more than cause ruination. Then they stole your foreign reserves.

We should sit and listen to these people's opinions? Are you having a breakdown of some kind?
71 Nostrolldamus The 2nd (#) Dec 04th, 2012 - 03:34 pm Report abuse
@70

You don't listen to anyone, democratic or not. Notice you did not neither deny what I said nor showed any example.

The UK has no tolerance for other nations and their views. They even reject the Germans and the French if they don't cow 100% to the British position. The concept of compromise does not exist in your culture and because you have had military back-up the last 200 years you haven't needed it. But that era is over Empire Britain is bye-bye yet you still behave diplomatically as such... you are starting to pay for that.
72 Conqueror (#) Dec 04th, 2012 - 03:39 pm Report abuse
@14 MI6.
@19 “He is no terrorist threat.” He isn't? Are you sure? But I already paid!
@20 But he isn't a man!
@24 Well, you know, we are aware that argieland is stupid enough to try it. Fortunately, the captains of Royal Navy ICBM submarines are sane, sensible men. I think. You never can tell until afterwards. Just THINK, 16 nuclear missiles with a total of 160 nuclear warheads, all headed for argieland. Could it be today? Tomorrow? Next week? A pressie for Christmas? You never know what might set someone off. Probably best for all argies to say nothing about the Falklands and stay at least 300 miles away.
@29 Signed it. But I see there are a number of petitions seeking action against argieland and mercosur. Everybody should sign all of them.
@33 So? MercoPress isn't “the law”. And argies always break laws anyway!
@35 Absolutely essential to be able to “punish” animals. Animals = argies. And venezuelans. And bolivians. And ecuadorians.
@36 UNSC 1363, 1378, 1383 and 1386. UNSC 1973. Try again. Or watch for the UNSC resolution on arieland.
@37 Finger's on the trigger. And feeling itchy!
@39 Or, alternatively, let's destroy argieland. Who would miss it?
@44 But, alex, you have been adjudged to be a terrorist “organisation”. The “War on Terror” is still ongoing. And you are on the list. Is there a “person” looking for you?
@50 “if I am hiding in Canada this must mean brits hide in Islas malvinas”. Where? Doesn't exist. Brits don't hide. They are on the Falkland Islands. Making more money than an argie could dream of. And evermore will be so!
@59 Look on the bright side. If you live by the sword, you die by the sword. And so argieland WILL die.
@62 Well, Simon, we don't really appreciate histrionic tantrums by over-age tarts here in Britain. I think she should fly back to argieland. Mind you, she doesn't have to get there. Got any “friends”?
@71 Why would we listen to a tosser like you? But here's a tip. STFU and FO. Then we won't talk to you!
73 Shed-time (#) Dec 04th, 2012 - 03:42 pm Report abuse
@71 your argument has been weighed, measured and found wanting. No one here is going to argue that politicians the world over are snakes and weasels of the highest order. The issue here is that we have safeguards in place to prevent them from ruining our society, you do not. Not even your weekly rewritten constitution is going to prevent the upcoming dawn of Maximo's Fourth Reich.

If the offices of a shipping company are attacked by the militant wing of a terrorist organisation that is inextricably linked to the president of Argentina, and run by her son, what do you expect the British Government to do? Give us an example?

The commonly used phrase is, 'we don't negotiate with terrorists'; so why should this situation be any different?
74 Nostrolldamus The 2nd (#) Dec 04th, 2012 - 03:49 pm Report abuse
@73

Well, but you do you have an embassy and all.

Besides, no one accepts your account of the story outside Mercopress and the Foreign office. Why is that so hard for you to understand?
75 andy65 (#) Dec 04th, 2012 - 03:53 pm Report abuse
@Nostrolldamus take a read of a Mexcan view on your beloved Crstina-not quite what you would want to read buy 100% correct

www.policymic.com/articles/10874/why-argentina-president-cristina-fernandez-de-kirchner-has-failed-at-handling-the-falklands#
76 Shed-time (#) Dec 04th, 2012 - 03:59 pm Report abuse
@73 Which story is that? The story that your president is inextricably linked to an organisation not unlike the SS of nazi germany? Why do you think they called in your ambassador if the UK government didn't believe the people behind the intimidation weren't somehow related to your government? So, it's just myself and the UK government that believe my story then.

My issue here is that it's okay for you to not want to believe that a totalitarian regime isn't being built under your nose, but that you seem to think we shouldn't be able to see it happening.

Brown Shirts - Tick.
Rule by Decree - Tick
Hitler Youth School Program - Tick
Discussion of KFC being in power whilst not being president - Tick
Ruling committee of La campora, international terrorists - Tick
La Campora being in control of key government and business positions - Tick

Now I'm no sherlock holmes, but I can still see the hallmarks of a totalitarian regime being constructed.

So I ask again, what should the UK government have done?
77 Nostrolldamus The 2nd (#) Dec 04th, 2012 - 04:02 pm Report abuse
@75

Snooze.

Do people in the rest of the world have any imagination? Whether a Chicago paper, the FT, a mexican write, a Brazilian magazine, a Spanish editorial, or a German analyist... they all repeat the same old hackneyed tale about how Argentina should be a world economy power, and military leader in the region and blah blah, and prosperous like Canada or Australia.

Same old boring...
78 Shed-time (#) Dec 04th, 2012 - 04:18 pm Report abuse
@77 Given your national addiction to 'Viveza criolla' and Peronism I don't think anyone is under any illusions that you nation is going anywhere but prosperity.
79 reality check (#) Dec 04th, 2012 - 05:25 pm Report abuse
@75
Just read it, good analysis I thought.
80 GeoffWard2 (#) Dec 04th, 2012 - 05:55 pm Report abuse
briton (#63)
'we should have deported her,'

I don't think she can be easily deported.
This would surely be a Human Rights issue.
There would be 'a risk to her life' if she were returned to Argentina, (...“Off with her head!!!”),
and would any other country want her.
I think not.
I think she should be taken to the immediate vicinity of the Ecuadorian Embassy ... and then be told that “Your life might be in danger.... Run!”

OK, she was summoned to attend a FO meeting
... but did she attend?
..... if she turned up, was she given a 'telling off' ?
.... if she failed to turn up, should she be deported
.... back to para. 1.
81 malen (#) Dec 04th, 2012 - 06:24 pm Report abuse
Oh, oh correction in the article........
Yesterday I read : “...islanders want to be governed by London....ejem, ejem”
(Like in reuters note: www.uk.reuters.com/article/2012/12/03/uk-britain-argentina-falklands-idUKBRE8B217V201203 or google)
And today, correction: “islanders want to continue to remain a LARGELY and AUTONOMOUS BOT” . Better saying for the same. Ejem, ejem.
82 toooldtodieyoung (#) Dec 04th, 2012 - 06:32 pm Report abuse
35 Tito The Clown Troll

Oh, I stand in awe of your well thought out argument....not!!!!
lets just see shall we......

“they don't know how to operate “diplomatically”, which is why they are increasingly getting into trouble in many parts of the world”

In 1982, Sir Anthony Parsons ( Britain's ambassador to the UN ) pulled off what even the American's called “A stunning display of diplomatic professionism”

and

”Even Mrs KirkPatrick ( The American ambassador ), who could ill conceal her pro-Argentine sympathies, later used the the incident to compare British diplomacy with American “amateurism””

That got Resolution 502 passed through the security council WITHIN 48 HOURS with a two thirds majority.

And AGAIN at 37!!!!!

“I could also claim to have deft skills in this area, when holding a gun to your head and you being disarmed.”

It's getting very hard to underestimate you!!!!!

I take then that you have not heard of the old saying ( African in origin ) which states:-

“Talk softly and carry a big stick”

which, by the way, the American's have inscribed on the inside of their Nuclear powered aircraft carrier the USS Theodore Roosevelt.

So really you've just f**ked yourself ( AGAIN ) in public

THEN you say that ElaineB is free to be a moron. I would invite you to remember that everyone is free to be a moron, but that you are abusing the priviledge
83 briton (#) Dec 04th, 2012 - 07:12 pm Report abuse
80 GeoffWard2
Thanks,
But would Ecuador take her,
They already have one pigeon in the hole lol.

This lady is a bit right/left wing for me,
No doubt CFK sent her deliberately,
Still,
At least she receives more privileges here than at home, we suppose lol.

,,,,,,,,,,,,,
82
its like talking to many brick walls,
and getting the wailing noises.
84 andy65 (#) Dec 04th, 2012 - 07:21 pm Report abuse
@Nostrolldamus The 2nd, Don't you think the article reads more that South America are becoming pissed with your beloved Cuntina (sorry Cristina) and are merely paying her lip service on her many jaunts around South America begging for support? I just love the part that congratulates the quiet British deplomacy.We could say Argentina is still a young democrecy with a lot to learn and thats being kind.
85 toooldtodieyoung (#) Dec 04th, 2012 - 08:16 pm Report abuse
83 briton

You will, of course, note that Nostrolldamus The 2nd / Tito the Clown Troll is using “Projection” in his rants at 35, 37, 69 and 71??

If you merely substitute the word “UK” with the word “Argentina” and the frustration and anger towards his own country is glaringly obvious.

It's the same tactic that playground bullies use to make themselves feel better with there own rancid / septic / miserable lives. They target the one who is better than them acidemically / socially and then they “Project” all of their short comings onto that target in the hope of being seen in a more favourable light.

In this case, as we all know, the UK is leaps and bounds ahead of Argentina and so of course they ( and their trolls ) are going to blame us for everything that is their own fault.

Once you know this, and learn how to read the signs then every outburst, every post that critises the UK is telling you more about the frustrations of the poster rather than being an attack on Great Britian.
86 briton (#) Dec 04th, 2012 - 08:44 pm Report abuse
true,
he never was that bright,
we wonder why he hates himself so much,
perhaps he bit his own tounge.lol.
87 slattzzz (#) Dec 04th, 2012 - 09:12 pm Report abuse
@77 nostrilanus the rest of the world could tell you, and most actually are, but you'd never believe them because your too punch drunk from listening to CFK bull. By the way question remains and I will keep asking do you actually live in Argentina?
88 Shed-time (#) Dec 04th, 2012 - 10:30 pm Report abuse
I don't know why anyone cares so much. In a few years Argentina will have imploded in on itself and returned to it's 'mad max' natural state. The ferrel people remaining alive afterwards will probably end up running into the sea screaming.

They'll do this of their own accord, with no one else's help.
89 andy65 (#) Dec 05th, 2012 - 02:01 am Report abuse
ARGENTINE DOUBLE STANDARDS

Argentina has a record of defending self-determination before the UN. According to a 2010 UN release, Argentine Senator Rubén Giustiniani called for self-determination of Puerto Rico, stating that “Argentina deemed Puerto Rico’s cause to be its own and reaffirmed the calls for recognition of its right to self-determination
90 briton (#) Dec 05th, 2012 - 12:36 pm Report abuse
It will break up into separate cabbage patches lol..
91 redpoll (#) Dec 05th, 2012 - 04:08 pm Report abuse
I realy couldnt care a tinkers about Queen Cristina. Didnt she get elected with 54%? What worries me is that she just regards Uruguay as just another province. We ARE not
92 Simon68 (#) Dec 05th, 2012 - 05:14 pm Report abuse
Don't worry, redpoll, by the time the MBOA has finished pissing our economy away you guys will be able to pick up Entrerios and Corrientes for a song, or even half a song!!!!
93 redpoll (#) Dec 05th, 2012 - 06:14 pm Report abuse
Simon I dont think we want to inherit that mess. Just give us back Isla Martin Garcia and we will be satisfied with that
94 Waste of Time (#) Dec 05th, 2012 - 06:52 pm Report abuse
so what?
The UK has the choice to break diplomatic relations if “things” are so bad,,,,
95 DanyBerger (#) Dec 06th, 2012 - 12:38 pm Report abuse
ZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Again and again... and UK powerless...

No carriers
No money
No jobs
No industries
No F35B
No army
No hope
No ships going to FI

How much humiliation Britons can resist?
** *** **
I just can't get enough Depeche Mode oldies hit when still to be British means something...
www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnefekaG8wU
96 Simon68 (#) Dec 06th, 2012 - 01:48 pm Report abuse
93 redpoll (#)
Dec 05th, 2012 - 06:14 pm

If it was up to me it would be all your's!!!!!
97 andy65 (#) Dec 06th, 2012 - 02:28 pm Report abuse
@DanyBerger I think your views on the UK might be more in keeping with your former colonial masters SPAIN.
98 DanyBerger (#) Dec 06th, 2012 - 04:46 pm Report abuse
In fact we have colonised your little UK together with the Spanish and Italians.

Don’t you ever read your own history?

Te term “Angolan-Saxon” do this tells something to you idiot?

Still German Blood in your FiloNazi Royal Family
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-379036/Prince-Philip-pictured-Nazi-funeral.html

If wouldn’t be for us you would be eating pasta, dancing Flamenco, speaking Spanish and your banana kingdom would be less relevant than Swiss beaches and maritime coasts.

Do you like flamenco?
www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEEhiyancJI
99 Xect (#) Dec 06th, 2012 - 11:46 pm Report abuse
Ah more nonsense dany. This is getting tedious now.

Prince William attended the funeral of his sister and in attendance were some Nazi officers, he was also 16 and this was 2 years prior to the war.

And this is the very same man that fought against the Nazi's in the war.

But hey lets not let the actual truth get in the way of your bizarre distortions eh?

Just for new readers dany has had his previous account banned for extreme views and has previously declared Spain will fight against the British which rather unsurprising hasn't happened and will not happen. And if that wasn't bad enough thinks the UK is powerless and Argentina is a powerful nation.

Interesting views on the world eh......
100 andy65 (#) Dec 07th, 2012 - 12:24 am Report abuse
Danny any comment that gibraltar is offering Spanish banks a huge rescue package?? lol
101 DanyBerger (#) Dec 07th, 2012 - 10:31 am Report abuse
@Xect

Banned account for extreme views...? where? Lying again...

I recommend you to dig deeper into UK’s history instead to make fairy tales posts from your imaginary fantasyland.

The Angola- SaX’sons always have traitors and have been FiloNazy

Channel 4 documentary.

Edward VIII The Traitor King (part 1 of 11)

The Royal House of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha / Windsor

www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-bVcRB7CF0&playnext=1&list=PL69C33DEE99997B78&feature=results_video
www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFtKgKJRNZE&list=PL69C33DEE99997B78&index=2
www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1lYyQhtA4Y&list=PL69C33DEE99997B78&index=4
www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzCjGZzkY-w&list=PL69C33DEE99997B78&index=5
www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KV-05G6TJY&list=PL69C33DEE99997B78&index=6
www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlwcltJJeDQ&list=PL69C33DEE99997B78&index=7
www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxhA9Wicb2U&list=PL69C33DEE99997B78&index=8
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z32DKlAJTU0&list=PL69C33DEE99997B78&index=9
www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpT4byTiVgs&list=PL69C33DEE99997B78&index=10
www.youtube.com/watch?v=QG-zHwAAktw&list=PL69C33DEE99997B78&index=11

Mohamed Fayed calls Prince Philip a Nazi racist
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1578993/Mohamed-Fayed-calls-Prince-Philip-a-Nazi.html

“Of the Duke of Edinburgh, Mr Fayed said: “He would not accept my son, anyone who is a person of different religion, naturally tanned, curly hair, they will not accept that he will have anything to do with the future King.
”Prince Philip rules the country behind the scenes. I think Prince Philip is the actual head of the Royal Family. He is a racist. He was brought up by his aunt who married one of Hitler's generals.”

@andy65

Why I should comment about that?
102 Xect (#) Dec 08th, 2012 - 12:27 am Report abuse
Lying so are you going to tell us 'DannyBerger' didn't get banned and you didn't come back as 'DanyBerger'? Clearly there is only one liar here.

Unfortunately for you I do know about the Royal Family's history but what is different is I don't distort it to suit some bizarre belief like you do.

As for Mohamed Fayed, you really couldn't of picked a worse person to quote. This is the person who has been involved in many high profile scandals over the years. Where I am different from you is I didn't have to use google to find someone saying something negative and then post in the misguided belief this is someone with a valued opinion.

Muppet.
103 DanyBerger (#) Dec 08th, 2012 - 11:45 am Report abuse
@Xect

You are lying mate, I have never been banned and you?.

“Clearly there is only one liar here”

Of course there is... and is you little head. Who else gonna be?

Do you have more BS. You are not even English...

Ya r not Englishsssss twat doya know wha’ I mean?

These ladies gently will explain that for me.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=fd8iYLvlQaM
www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHwDC7vjXM8
www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgrXBQQ_BKY&NR=1&feature=endscreen

BTW how bad is to travel using the tube in London on these days have anyone noted that?
Seems the Argies trains of the Sarmiento line but without glam.
104 Xect (#) Dec 08th, 2012 - 12:57 pm Report abuse
I'm not even English? So how did I serve 7 1/2 years in the Royal Navy then genius?

It's probably best you don't mention trains given your countries track record (excuse the obvious pun)

My dad always told me, don't argue with a idiot because the only way you can win is by equaling their idiocy!
105 andy65 (#) Dec 08th, 2012 - 02:27 pm Report abuse
@dannybuggerer any news on your Cristina today and the bad smells in BA,you really should ask her to stop colouring her hair and pumping botox into those lips infact she often looks dirty un washed how old is she about 70????
106 GeoffWard2 (#) Dec 08th, 2012 - 04:46 pm Report abuse
...... so what's wrong with 70?
107 DanyBerger (#) Dec 09th, 2012 - 02:14 pm Report abuse
@ Xect

And since when serving in RN is a proof of to be an English man idiot?

In the RN there are people born in Somalia, Nepal, etc, etc.

And WTF were you taught in the RN?

“It's irrelevant anyway since we know anyone who tried such a thing would meet the might of the Royal Navy and have a rapid death.”

Ha ha

Ask admiral John West about how sad is to see sinking RN ships in the cold waters by the Argies.

Mohammed you are a big mouth without teeth at the moment. No carriers and jets to have air cover and you are bloody f@cked.
108 ChrisR (#) Dec 09th, 2012 - 05:36 pm Report abuse
107 Dunnni-Burger

Living in the past again? AG sank some ships during the Falklands conflict BUT lost big-time to a smaller but much superior force from 8,000 miles away. You just cannot get past that can you.

And now you have got it wrong AGAIN! Why would we need carriers? The Typhoon can fly, fully armed with their kill outside visible distance missiles for 1,830 miles AND there is an airstrip on the islands. AND don’t forget the Type 45’s. How are you going to disable the airstrip with just ONE of these ships nearby? Answer: NO chance.

But, you see, it won’t come to an armed conflict if only because you lot can’t fight your way out of a paper bag and your only hope, ‘Dead Man Walking’ Chavez won’t be with us much longer, ha, ha, ha.

BTW we now have two F35Bs for training our forces, with more coming in the New Year.

What do you argies have coming soon?
IMF Red Card
Raging inflation
More civil unrest
Judgement against you in favour of NML
Your flagship still in Ghana
The other old tub being extensively refitted after the self-induced fires in the engine room
Car production cesing when the IMF decision hits home
Being chucked out of the G20
EVEN MORE CIVIL UNREST
TMBOA having a final breakdown and ‘Leaving on an airplane’ to quote the song, OR it could be ‘My yellow taxi’.

But never forget the mythical 54% (of those who voted) have it coming. I feel sorry for the poor sods who did NOT vote for the cow.
109 DanyBerger (#) Dec 10th, 2012 - 07:20 am Report abuse
Hello Idiots...

I’m just so busy to answer BS from retarded...

This is not a love song...
www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEsAHhoNnMI

SYL
110 Troy Tempest (#) Dec 10th, 2012 - 08:47 am Report abuse
@109 dung burger

“Hello Idiots...

I’m just so busy to answer BS from retarded...”

Nice. You are a class act.
111 Pete Bog (#) Dec 11th, 2012 - 05:43 pm Report abuse
@107
“No carriers and jets to have air cover”

There is an aircraft carrier called MPA.

Perhaps you would like to explain how your ancient museum style air force could put MPA out of action after your airfields have been destroyed by Tomahawks?

If MPA is taken out, you still have to get past ground to air missiles and that's only if NO RN ships are in the area.

I don't think the Brits are losing much sleep over a dying creature like CFKs Argentina that can talk the talk but cannot walk the walk.

If MPA is wiped out, that means you can't land any transport or military aircraft and it would take no more than a few days for our subs to send all of your Navy (the ships that are not broken down or impounded in foreign ports that is) on a one way ticket to say hello to the Belgrano.

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