Saturday, January 5th 2013 - 05:28 UTC

“Sovereignty party” for when Libertad and Espora sail in together to Mar del Plata

Argentina’s dredgers union assured a safe passage for when the Navy’s flag ship ARA Libertad arrives to Mar del Plata next 9 January to a big reception party headed by President Cristina Fernandez. There were concerns that the depth of the access channel wouldn’t be enough.

Despite dredgers union assurance, the two vessels will arrive at high tide

“The access channel to Mar del Plata is 80 metres wide and 9 to 10 metres deep, I believe the frigate draught is six metres to there is a considerable margin” said on Friday the number two of the dredgers and buoys union Juan Carlos Schmid.

However he admitted that the channel has had difficulties for some time and large vessels face serious inconveniences when entering the port of Mar del Plata.

“Having the channel in good safety and navigation conditions is a responsibility of the federal government; I believe a tender is being drafted to improve access, because the channel is quite narrow in some areas”, added Schmid.

But this will not prevent the big party scheduled for next Wednesday when ARA Libertad after having been retained impounded in Ghana since October, makes her triumphal return escorted by the corvette Espora which was also delayed in South Africa, for mechanical reasons, but under threat of a similar impound action from hedge funds.

ARA Espora on Thursday called at Rio do Janeiro and has programmed the rest of the trip in such a way that it will emerge in the Mar del Plata horizon next to ARA Libertad.

However to avoid any possible difficulties when entering the port where President Cristina Fernandez and her cabinet will be waiting, the two vessels are scheduled to sail in at high tide at 17:25 hours.

The head of the navy in Mar del Plata, Carlos Barrios Cardozo, said that they were “coordinating the naval route and organising security for the ships’ arrival into the port.”

“The ships will arrive on Wednesday the 9th of January between 5pm and 6pm and will have helicopter security and the coastguard present. “The idea is that the arrival be a celebration and that nothing strange happens,” Cardozo said.

Following the formalities of the reception ceremony, and probably a strong speech in support of sovereignty and condemning hedge funds from President Cristina Fernandez, the Argentine leader leaves for a trade mission to Emirates and Indonesia.

The port and surrounding area will then be opened for a dance and singing party with the participation of several rock groups, which is expected to be a great success since it coincides with the peak of the summer season in Mar del Plata and the Atlantic coast.

ARA Libertad was impounded 2 October on arrival at Tema, Ghana on demand from a New York court order favouring US hedge funds trying to make effective Argentine defaulted sovereign bonds.

After several diplomatic attempts failed the case reached the International Court of the UN Law of the Sea with seat in Hamburg which ordered Ghana to release ARA Libertad.

The recovery of the frigate on a naval cadets final training course was presented by the government of President Cristina Fernandez as a battle for Argentine sovereignty threatened by hedge funds and other forces intent in humiliating Argentina and bringing down her government.
 

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1 Anglotino (#) Jan 05th, 2013 - 06:03 am Report abuse
Yay, more bread and circuses!

That should keep the masses occupied for a little while longer.
2 andy65 (#) Jan 05th, 2013 - 09:44 am Report abuse
“The idea is that the arrival be a celebration and that nothing strange happens,” Cardozo said”

You could not make this up,only in Argentina celebrating out of not paying your debts even though the bailiff is still knocking at the door
3 surfer (#) Jan 05th, 2013 - 09:46 am Report abuse
Jammy pirates, at least they realise they mustn't stray far from port in future.

Should keep their aggressive colonialist adventurism in check though.
4 Gordo1 (#) Jan 05th, 2013 - 10:03 am Report abuse
What on earth has “sovereignty party” to do with the arrival of these two vessels?

Only arrogant Argentinos could see this as a reason for celebration.
5 TipsyThink (#) Jan 05th, 2013 - 10:03 am Report abuse
evérybody meet superjets at aírports
Argentina meets sailers at 21 century
what a dévelopment !
6 surfer (#) Jan 05th, 2013 - 10:13 am Report abuse
Unpaid debts still there and rising, default risk still rising, 7 pesos to dollar, inflation 30% etc....

Time to crack open the Champagne for sure.

Like the Pompeiians celebrating at the base of mount Vesuvius.
7 Boovis (#) Jan 05th, 2013 - 10:15 am Report abuse
“We screwed up massively, caused a diplomatic rift between ourselves and one of our African trading parties, became a complete laughing stock in the process...”. Great reason to celebrate. Yup.
8 Steve-33-uk (#) Jan 05th, 2013 - 10:40 am Report abuse
'To travel to Asia, Cristina chartered a plane for a million dollars - In record time and without prior tender, the Government has just hired a British company to transport President Cristina Kirchner on his tour of Asia. in the coming days, the President should pay around a million dollars to charter a Global Express , a luxury jet market is distinguished by its endurance. ? Why not use the Tango 01? Aviation sources say there fear an embargo outside the country, as happened with the frigate Libertad.'

www.contexto.com.ar/vernota.php?id=94929
9 ElaineB (#) Jan 05th, 2013 - 10:56 am Report abuse
@8 lol, I just read that. How embarrassing.
10 reality check (#) Jan 05th, 2013 - 11:02 am Report abuse
Love it, hires a jet from a British company, with the money up front.
How ironic!!!!!
Nice link Chris.
LOL.
11 toooldtodieyoung (#) Jan 05th, 2013 - 11:05 am Report abuse
6 surfer & 7 Boovis

Yup, the ecomony is in the toilet. People are struggling to keep a roof over their heads and feed themselves.............. Protests against the government and food riots. Let's have a party!!!

Well, at least they got their boat back.....................
12 ElaineB (#) Jan 05th, 2013 - 11:15 am Report abuse
Have you seen the posters for the party? CFKC -how she must have looked 30 years ago- with her hand raised in a Nazi salute. (Left hand as it is south of the equator). I am sure she will have had a hand in making her look like a super-hero. Captitana Plastic?
13 reality check (#) Jan 05th, 2013 - 11:15 am Report abuse
Man! I can not wait for the movie to come out. Wonder who they wil get to play KFC! my moneys on Jackie, Aka Stallones mum!
14 andy65 (#) Jan 05th, 2013 - 11:54 am Report abuse
I wonder what our Argentine friends think about there dear leader hiring a luxury private jet from a British company for fear of Tango1 being inpounded-dam so embarassing this woman as got so much neck its unbelievable there again THANK'S CRISSY WE APPRECIATE YOUR BUSINESS
15 reality check (#) Jan 05th, 2013 - 12:25 pm Report abuse
I can see her on the plane now. A stewardess coming up to her and asking if she would like a drink, her reply, “No, we want our Islands back!”
Would you like something to read, “No we want our Islands back!”
Would you care for a pillow, “No we want our Islands back!”

All I can say is, I hope the cabin crew on this plane are being paid Hazzard Pay, because I have a sneaky supicion they are going to earn it!
16 andy65 (#) Jan 05th, 2013 - 12:33 pm Report abuse
Seriously this woman is beyond a joke she is a disgrace to Argentina it wasn't long ago that she was actively pursuadsing Argentine businesses not to buy British,WHAT CHANGED CRISSY?????
17 ElaineB (#) Jan 05th, 2013 - 12:42 pm Report abuse
I doubt a lot of her poor voters are aware - but there are ways to spread the word. : )

@13 Have you seen the film 'Game Change'? Really Palin and CFKC could be interchangeable. Obviously not looks, but the handling of a megalomanic, bi-polar, somewhat dense politician with no consideration outside her own needs and popularity.
18 andy65 (#) Jan 05th, 2013 - 12:45 pm Report abuse
@ElaineB It can be alittle worrying though wars are started because of people like Kirchner
19 surfer (#) Jan 05th, 2013 - 12:54 pm Report abuse
#8 Good find, comments are pretty amusing too:

'Cristina, no tenes verguenza hija de mil putas!!!!!!'

'Quien tiene la culpa que esta ladrona este como presidenta???????'

arf!
20 ElaineB (#) Jan 05th, 2013 - 12:55 pm Report abuse
@18 Yeah, but fortunately Argentina has no military might. Venezuela, the only likely ally, is rather preoccupied. They will not want any of their military anywhere but at home in the coming years. And I doubt they will be so very much an ally after Chavez, who is on his deathbed.

I agree that if Palin had been elected VP and McCain dropped dead from the stress of being POTUS, she probably would have gone to war with someone, anyone, if she could find it on a map.
21 andy65 (#) Jan 05th, 2013 - 01:01 pm Report abuse
“The Tango returned to the country in late December. On the 20th of that month moved to Cristina to El Calafate for the holidays. He made a stop in Rio Gallegos, where Kirchner and Max dropped his partner, Rocio Garcia”

Can you immagine this happening here in UK Tax payers funding a premiers sons bit on the side luxury lifts home in a presidential plane nice to see democrecy working well in Argentina
SERIOUSLY you could not make this shit up
22 reality check (#) Jan 05th, 2013 - 01:47 pm Report abuse
EB
I do not think any of her so called allies, would be foolish enough to get involved in a conflict with our armeded forces. They are well aware of our capabilities and not through any great intelligence work either.

Since 9/11 all they have had to do to see those capabilities, is to turn their Television on and tune in to the World News. The capabilities of our forces are there for all to see. Not to forget of course, that those forces have now more that a decade of combat experience, are equipped witth the latest military hardware available and last but not least, are all veterans and well capable of using it. I'm not bragging, I'm just saying it as it is.

They would be foolish to start anything and they know it.
23 Britworker (#) Jan 05th, 2013 - 01:47 pm Report abuse
I'm looking forward to the party at the triumphant return of the IOU Libertad getting stuck in the mud. And hiring a British luxury jet, that is priceless. I wondered how soon the comedy would start in 2013, she never disappoints.
24 andy65 (#) Jan 05th, 2013 - 01:58 pm Report abuse
Can you imagine the look on The Vietnamese faces on her travels when she's prostituting herself again asking for support over The Islands,I can just see those blank expressions thinking “what the F... is she going on about we no idea wher these Islands are”
25 slattzzz (#) Jan 05th, 2013 - 02:13 pm Report abuse
Should be sneaking in at 0200 under a cloud of embarrassment what a bunch of idiots
26 Britworker (#) Jan 05th, 2013 - 02:17 pm Report abuse
Yes im sure it has sailed over our subs on a number of occasions, the restraint must have been very difficult I'm sure!
27 reality check (#) Jan 05th, 2013 - 02:20 pm Report abuse
Me I can not wait to see the TV footage. Bands playing, paper streamers, flag waving and speeches! No idea how foolish they look.
28 Conqueror (#) Jan 05th, 2013 - 02:31 pm Report abuse
@26 Your comment has made me think. Surely a British government wouldn't order a British submarine to fire an 80 knot Spearfish heavyweight (300kg warhead) torpedo as the IOU Libertad entered the River Plate. Would it?
29 ptolemy (#) Jan 05th, 2013 - 02:34 pm Report abuse
Ah,.. more political paint for Cristina. She needs it too. She has a lot of white washing to do.
30 José Malvinero (#) Jan 05th, 2013 - 02:47 pm Report abuse
What matters to this spy agency in Montevideo, whatsoever
Argentina does and the english string that follow?
31 ElaineB (#) Jan 05th, 2013 - 02:48 pm Report abuse
'“The ship will arrive on Wednesday the 9th of January between 5pm and 6pm and will have helicopter security and the coastguard present.
“The idea is that the arrival be a celebration and that nothing strange happens,”'

What do they expect to happen? The bailiffs cannot strike there so they must be concerned about anti-government action. Is CFKC going to be roped to the prow of the ship as a living Figurehead?
32 Britninja (#) Jan 05th, 2013 - 03:04 pm Report abuse
If the dredgers are as inept as the rest of Argieland, the ship may well get grounded and sink on the way to the triumphant celebration. The comedy potential is mindblowing.
33 andy65 (#) Jan 05th, 2013 - 03:05 pm Report abuse
@José Malvinero Are you trying to communicate because what you are saying sounds like bollocks just like old Nossy writes
34 ChrisR (#) Jan 05th, 2013 - 03:56 pm Report abuse
Brilliant!

Reading this just made me glad that we have a prick like Camoron and his bitch Clegg in charge of the UK.

Even they cannot fuck up the PR potential to the Falklands (there are STILL no Malvinas you pratts) surely?
35 Pirate Love (#) Jan 05th, 2013 - 05:27 pm Report abuse
“hedge funds and other forces intent in humiliating Argentina and bringing down her government.”, I would say She has that covered, no outside help required!

SELF-DETERMINATON!
36 Pugol-H (#) Jan 05th, 2013 - 05:31 pm Report abuse
Let’s face it there won’t be any cruise ships docking to get in the way.

Is the corvette Espora escorting the Libertad, or being towed in by it I wonder.
37 Shed-time (#) Jan 05th, 2013 - 05:56 pm Report abuse
@36 I believe they are rowing it in.
38 Marcos Alejandro (#) Jan 05th, 2013 - 05:59 pm
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39 slattzzz (#) Jan 05th, 2013 - 06:12 pm Report abuse
I'm sorry but a celebration for a ship that has been impounded for unpaid debts and a WARSHIP that the ships company can't repair even to get it home is a total and utter joke and these dipshits want to celebrate it. No wonder people laugh. the whole idea of joining the armed forces is learning to overcome adversity obviously rgenweener skipped that chapter. Laughing stock enjoy your celebration whilst the world laughs and your embarressed sailors slink off home as heroes you cant make this shite up. I await dickhead in Canada's nuclear response as always
40 andy65 (#) Jan 05th, 2013 - 06:21 pm Report abuse
@Marcos Alejandro You wouldn't know a victory if it slapped you in the chops.
Seems you have no comments on your dear leader not being able to use Tango1 infear of it being inpounded LOL even more though is that she is hiring a GREAT BRITISH private jet to ferry her around on her over seas jaunt-as she told the rest of you Argentines about this????
41 Pete Bog (#) Jan 05th, 2013 - 06:22 pm Report abuse
Would love it if on the way to Asia, the captain of the private jet announces,(just for fun) ”And today Madame President, we have clear blue sky and a little turbulence, not unlike the time when we once flew across from Chile to MPA to visit the Falklands...............?

On a serious note this Libertard party is going to provide more laughs.

The Argentines are very generous in making the world a happier place with all the laughs they provide.
42 ChrisR (#) Jan 05th, 2013 - 06:34 pm Report abuse
41 Pete Bog

It would be even better if he announced they were running a surprise based on 'the good old days' and chucked the lot of them out the door without parachutes.

Even a jet when slowed and down at 10,000 ft could do that.
43 Steve-33-uk (#) Jan 05th, 2013 - 06:38 pm Report abuse
'The enemy within - A weakened president falls out with fellow Peronists'
www.economist.com/news/americas/21569040-weakened-president-falls-out-fellow-peronists-enemy-within

'To travel to Asia, Cristina chartered a plane for a million dollars - It was for direct recruitment to a British company. I would not use the Tango 01 for fear of possible foreclosure...'
www.clarin.com/politica/viajar-Asia-Cristina-alquilo-dolares_0_841715935.html
44 Frank (#) Jan 05th, 2013 - 07:08 pm Report abuse
Nothing like arriving at the top of the tide if you want to risk a Class A stuff up.... run aground and she is there for the next 12 hours. At least it is the lower of the day's tides so she wont be neaped.
45 slattzzz (#) Jan 05th, 2013 - 07:32 pm Report abuse
If I was in the rg navy on one of those two ships I'd feel nothing but total embarrassment
46 reality check (#) Jan 05th, 2013 - 07:57 pm Report abuse
Slatzzz
Judging by their courageous conduct back in 82, they must be well used to being ambarrassed by now.
47 Steve-33-uk (#) Jan 05th, 2013 - 08:01 pm Report abuse
@13 reality check

'CFK the movie'
I would pre-book now, she is better comedy value than any sitcom I've watched.
Letting CFK run a country is the equivalent of letting a toddler drive a bus. But its not just her, tinman and count von count are just as thick, it's hilarious.
48 agent999 (#) Jan 05th, 2013 - 08:02 pm Report abuse
They did repel those heavily armed dock workers that tried to move the IOU Liberturd.
49 slattzzz (#) Jan 05th, 2013 - 08:28 pm Report abuse
Honestly I despair anyone with any sense of morality would see this for what it is. A total propoganda exercise but even pro arg (sussie ) and the rest of the half wits must see this as a major foopa. But there again none of them live in rgenweener so it doesn't matter. Oxygen thieves!!!!! How can two ships both supposedly Warships let themselves be put in this position in the first place and then return to a heroes welcome first class fook up no wonder no ones scared of you or gives a fook what you whinge about. Laughing stock is too nice a statement but bless you keep on digging. I await Canada's answer ref nuclear defence
50 reality check (#) Jan 05th, 2013 - 08:44 pm Report abuse
Makes you wonder what their briefing will be nexxt time they put to sea.

Not so much of the Intelligence officer giving the latest intel on enemy movements and dispositions, more a case of the accountants giving intel on the Bailiffs movents and dispostions!

Wonder what the latest IA drills are on being served a summons.
51 redpoll (#) Jan 05th, 2013 - 08:46 pm Report abuse
@34 Chris as an expat who still has a vote in UK elections, who is your candidate?From your remarks certainly not “that prick Cameron” and niether for the “bitch Clegg”. From your stance on these blogs I dont think you would vote for Bellyband either. So what are you? UKIP , BNP or something else?
52 CJvR (#) Jan 05th, 2013 - 08:50 pm Report abuse
LOL!

Celebrating a national humiliation, how amusing.
53 reality check (#) Jan 05th, 2013 - 09:12 pm Report abuse
I don't know, there is a precedence. After all, they celebrated the day that they started a war they lost. At least they are consistent.
54 andy65 (#) Jan 05th, 2013 - 11:53 pm Report abuse
look at 3.37 in this video I forgot this bitch came to London,sounds like she is asking for her Islands and The Queen ignores her.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdWM_m8aXjE
55 MrFlagpole (#) Jan 06th, 2013 - 12:27 am Report abuse
God what is there to celebrate? Not paying your bills? Well done Argentina.

It's almost like you didn't lose the Falklands to a country half your size and 50 times further away. It's like that, but not quite the same, you bunch of dicks.

Getting rid of that bitch would be a good first step.
56 Pirate Love (#) Jan 06th, 2013 - 02:36 am Report abuse
Ive seen it all now,

www.clarin.com/politica/afiches-Cristina-capitana-convocan-Fragata_0_841715936.html

who does she think she is?
followingthevoicewithin.blogspot.co.uk/2011/01/christ-pilot.html

!!Abandon Ship!! just dont ask her to park it!
57 Nostrolldamus The 5th (#) Jan 06th, 2013 - 06:26 am Report abuse
Oh my... 56 posts and these Brits still think anyone in Argentina gives a rats ass about British “morality” on what's proper or not.

Get real. No one gives a fark.
58 Gordo1 (#) Jan 06th, 2013 - 07:45 am Report abuse
Latest portrait of la Kretina:

www.lanacion.com.ar/1543176-con-un-afiche-epico-de-cristina-convocan-a-recibir-a-la-fragata-libertad
59 CJvR (#) Jan 06th, 2013 - 09:50 am Report abuse
@58

Well it certainly explains things. With KFC at the helm no wonder the ship struck an economic mine.
60 andy65 (#) Jan 06th, 2013 - 09:53 am Report abuse
@Nostrolldamus The 5th, Well obviously you do give a fark because your always here talking bollocks-Once again Crissy Botox shits on her own people and country

Tells her people don't buy British while she hires a luxury British private jet

LOL like Mr Cameron says WE ARE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER,except for Crissy ofcourse.
61 reality check (#) Jan 06th, 2013 - 10:03 am Report abuse
@Gordo
What the world is seeing here is the creation of another historic legend, the birth of the Argentine Boudicea. The picture is positively Wagnerian, I'm guessing that the artist is infuenced by his/her Germanic descendants, Circa 1933-1945.
62 Tinx (#) Jan 06th, 2013 - 10:21 am Report abuse
It is not cowardly to run ,but it is cowardly to run ....

You can not spending your life running away ,and moving and moving and moving to somewhere else that might be safe .Sometimes you have to make a stand.
63 Shed-time (#) Jan 06th, 2013 - 10:34 am Report abuse
... just as I suggested. Peronism leads yet again to the cult of personality. Effigies of the supposedly great Nestor will be erected and iconography will become widespread.

And so the authoritarian eternal reign of the Kircheners begins to the great clapping of hands... and the return of a boat running away from its own shame.
64 Clyde15 (#) Jan 06th, 2013 - 10:41 am Report abuse
Come on, lets be fair. If they want to have a party and need an excuse, what is it to us.! They need something to cheer them up.
If the return of a sailing ship and a clapped out warship does it for them, be magnanimous. Have they anything else to be happy about ?
65 Steve-33-uk (#) Jan 06th, 2013 - 10:46 am Report abuse
'Argentine president's secret deal with BRITISH company to provide luxury jet as her own plane is grounded over debt fears'

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2257904/Flying-flag-Falklands-row-President-splashes-BRITISH-luxury-jet-plane-grounded-debt-fears.html?ito=feeds-newsxml
66 TipsyThink (#) Jan 06th, 2013 - 10:58 am Report abuse
bravo Daily Mail
says CFK is a possible British agent
i always say that read DailyMail no others.
67 Tinx (#) Jan 06th, 2013 - 11:05 am Report abuse
blllahhhhh

British firms swarming in Argentina
very normal that British has imperial/global culture,Argentina has not.
68 TipsyThink (#) Jan 06th, 2013 - 11:13 am Report abuse
if it ís true ,CFK has to remémber the outcóme of Malaysia Prime Mínister.
69 andy65 (#) Jan 06th, 2013 - 11:27 am Report abuse
@Tinx (# British Airways could have given her good deal,can you immagine old Crissy Botox leaving a BA plane on her trip LOL

YOUR EMBARRASSED TINX ADMIT IT
70 Tinx (#) Jan 06th, 2013 - 11:32 am Report abuse
& 69
I know so many countries politicians who admirer of British and Oxford is more attractive than Harvard for their children.
71 Pirate Love (#) Jan 06th, 2013 - 12:11 pm Report abuse
following up from the Libertad “crowd pleaser” poster image in the link @56,

i thought i had seen her exact hand pose pointing to the heavens once before,
she actually believes shes a goddess, check out gods pose in michaelangelos painting,

sharpaboutyourprayers.com/2010/06/06/reaching-out/

a living modern day peronist goddess, who would of thought it,
one would think she would use her god-like status to help out her chubby friend chavez,
72 ChrisR (#) Jan 06th, 2013 - 12:46 pm Report abuse
51 redpoll

Thanks for the question!!! :o)

I live permanently in Uruguay and no longer have a house or other residence in the UK: so I no longer have a vote.

Yes, it seems ridiculous that India and Pakistan can arrange for all their citizens, even the homeless ones to vote, but no so the UK.

However, I have to admit a liking for UKIP and Nigel Farage, but they will get nowhere other than to rob the Conservatives of voter share. I am certainly NOT a supporter of the BNP, they are neo-Nazis.

The UK is, dare I say it, a bit like AG: a one horse race as far as my political leanings are concerned.
73 yankeeboy (#) Jan 06th, 2013 - 12:52 pm Report abuse
I wonder what CFK is paying to get people to show up in cold wet MDP to show support? Isn't it usually $100P, choripan and a coke?

It was $20 when I lived there but I guess inflation takes a toll everywhere.
hahaha
74 Steveu (#) Jan 06th, 2013 - 01:55 pm Report abuse
@14 et al

As UK aircraft are classed as UK territory and, therefore, subject to UK law, couldn't we have her forcibly brought to the UK (or Diego Garcia) and sectioned under the Mental Health Act?

Just a thought.......
75 redpoll (#) Jan 06th, 2013 - 02:15 pm Report abuse
@74 I thought I would check your statement so l looked it up. As an expat Brit you will lose your right to vote in UK and European elections in 2026. Info is readily available on the web
76 Conqueror (#) Jan 06th, 2013 - 02:16 pm Report abuse
@57 There's a fart against this number. Was anything “human” contributing? No? Didn't think so.
@62 Tell P-H.
@68 You can't “remember” anything when you have terminal mixamatosis.
@71 Is she not a goddess? In Norse mythology, is there not a goddess called Hel? She rules over the realm of Hel where she receives a portion of the dead. Sometimes described as an “image of a greedy, unrestoring, female deity”. Sounds about right.
77 redpoll (#) Jan 06th, 2013 - 03:36 pm Report abuse
A wee bit song for Maximo with apologies to the Geordies for plagiarising thier folk song for the welcome home ceremony

Dance to the daddy, sing to the mammy
Dance to the daddy , to the mammy sing
Thou shalt have a fishy on alittle dishy
WHEN THE BOAT COMES IN

... Thou shalt have a bloater, though shalt have a haddock
WHEN THE BOAT COMES IN
Some of the other verses of the song are quite apt too
78 Steve-33-uk (#) Jan 06th, 2013 - 03:46 pm Report abuse
'UK will fight for the Falklands, says David Cameron'
www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/jan/06/falklands-uk-argentina-fight-defence
79 LEPRecon (#) Jan 06th, 2013 - 03:52 pm Report abuse
@78 - Steve

In a fight between TMBOA and CMD, I'd put my money on CMD.

Of course Britain will defend the Falklands, but it doesn't hurt to remind the Argentine government of that fact.

I think another Type 45 deployment to the area is in order, and who knows, maybe Uruguay will 'sight' a RN submarine again ;)

As for the Libertad and Espora, I'm glad the sailors are returning home to their families. No doubt TMBOA is already spending money on minting them “I dodged the bailiff” medals. :)
80 Nostrolldamus The 5th (#) Jan 06th, 2013 - 04:02 pm Report abuse
We ain't paying the debts, tough cookie losers. You Europeans and Americans don't deserve the money, go find someone else to bleed.
81 Shed-time (#) Jan 06th, 2013 - 04:14 pm Report abuse
@80 Argentinian blood has no honour. I doubt there is a word in your language that represents the concept.

Borrowing with no intention of paying back is simply theft. Which I guess is a virtue according to Nestoranity.
82 Nostrolldamus The 5th (#) Jan 06th, 2013 - 04:21 pm Report abuse
It is much easier to beat an inflation problem than to beat a “growth” problem.

www.indexmundi.com/g/r.aspx?v=66

”UK among the select group with the most woeful rate of growth in 2011 (chart above), and the last five-year period”

UK 183 of 216.... lol

UK edged out in a tight race by economic superpowers SAN MARINO and COCOS ISLAND. :)

But at least you barely scratched by mightt Madagascar.

UK! UK! UK! hahahahahahaha.
83 andy65 (#) Jan 06th, 2013 - 04:22 pm Report abuse
@Nostrolldamus The 5th With attitudes like that I guess that's the reason you were waned earlier this year

Fitch warns Argentina on “growing diplomatic isolation” and “investment shortages”

It's the poor Argentines that suffer not old Crissy and her cronies bleeding the country dry.

PARASITES.
84 Nostrolldamus The 5th (#) Jan 06th, 2013 - 04:39 pm Report abuse
Ever been to Cocos Island?
85 andy65 (#) Jan 06th, 2013 - 04:42 pm Report abuse
@Nostolldamus,you should really be looking at this information from the same index its not good reading for Argentina as you can see your country is in the red zone just like your none payment of debts only this time its coruption.

www.indexmundi.com/blog/index.php/tag/corruption/
86 Nostrolldamus The 5th (#) Jan 06th, 2013 - 04:44 pm Report abuse
The UK... beaten in economic growth by COCOS ISLAND.

:)

www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_5_AD9wXuY
87 yankeeboy (#) Jan 06th, 2013 - 04:47 pm Report abuse
86. Why do you care so much about UK? Seems like pure jealousy to me.
88 surfer (#) Jan 06th, 2013 - 04:47 pm Report abuse
INDEC

geddit
89 andy65 (#) Jan 06th, 2013 - 04:50 pm Report abuse
LOL I see Japan at 204 in that table also yet it's still the 3rd largest economy and we are about to jump to 6th so don't worry to much about it, bailifs knocking at the door is much more a worry and having your assets siezed , not being able to use ones own presidential jet to fly over seas for fear of it being impounded then hiring a luxury jet from a country you tell your citizens not to do business with is a real vote winner DON'T YOU THINK????
90 redpoll (#) Jan 06th, 2013 - 04:53 pm Report abuse
Well wee snotty does provide some comic relief on these threads. Nostrodamus eh? The Seer of Brahan was a much better foreteller of the future so mebbe nozzy should take after him. Well perhaps not. He met his end by being boiled alive in a barrel of tar
91 Britninja (#) Jan 06th, 2013 - 04:55 pm Report abuse
@86 You might as well wave the white flag Tobi ;) You'll never win because as much as you want to make Britain your nemesis, your true enemy is your batshit crazy president who gives us something new to laugh about every day.
92 andy65 (#) Jan 06th, 2013 - 05:01 pm Report abuse
@Nostrolldamus The 5th Just a though don't most normal people distance themself from a loser????
93 Nostrolldamus The 5th (#) Jan 06th, 2013 - 05:06 pm Report abuse
Ouch something hurt because we have Brits jumping out from every nook and ingle.
94 surfer (#) Jan 06th, 2013 - 05:13 pm Report abuse
Will any Argentine Govt. owned ship ever travel to a foreign port again, doubt it.

Now THAT is worth celebrating.
95 andy65 (#) Jan 06th, 2013 - 05:14 pm Report abuse
LOL we only have something to laugh about nossy especially when discussing old Crissy.Them luxury British jets are something special mind you I can fully understand why she felt the need to hire one makes that old rust bucket Tango1 look like something out of the 1970s
96 agent999 (#) Jan 06th, 2013 - 05:15 pm Report abuse
@93
You should be on your way to Mar del Plata to join the welcoming committee, not playing your usual tricks of hijacking a thread that has nothing to do with GDP.

The term is actually “nook and cranny”
97 surfer (#) Jan 06th, 2013 - 05:22 pm Report abuse
I think even the most myopic, fundamentalist Kirchner supporters realise they are screwed, hence every argument about CFK is met with attacks on US/UK.

They CANNOT defend CFK anymore.

Hopefully there's a Union flag on that jet, would make for a sweet photo.
98 andy65 (#) Jan 06th, 2013 - 05:37 pm Report abuse
The botox Queen Cristina Kirchner in a rare interview

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lwqd4cOJsPg

And rehearsing her Speach for the sovereigny party at Mar del Plata

www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0fywBbhvxo
99 reality check (#) Jan 06th, 2013 - 06:24 pm Report abuse
The sense of excitement is palpable, only two more days to go!

Is it going to be declared a national holiday, I wonder?
100 Nostrolldamus The 5th (#) Jan 06th, 2013 - 06:27 pm Report abuse
It is a national holiday... problem with that?
101 agent999 (#) Jan 06th, 2013 - 06:29 pm Report abuse
@100
no
102 Nostrolldamus The 5th (#) Jan 06th, 2013 - 06:32 pm Report abuse
We defeated the global banking cabal, with 10 of trillions of dollars in leverage and who have succesfully bought off the nations of Europe and North America, and Japan/China/Brazil/Chile (the banks run your countries, not you).

You all can claim it was a humiliation but absolutely no one will remember the incident in 12 months. However, everyone will remember how Argentina is becoming the 1st nation in history to time and time again defeat the vultures.

And to ice the cake, the vulture is not spatting with Ghana over port costs. It's just like a movie where the good guy seems hoplessly cornered, but pulls a trick and the two bad guys are left bickering and fighting each other.
103 reality check (#) Jan 06th, 2013 - 06:39 pm Report abuse
“You all can claim it was a humiliation!”

Jesus christ, why is your president leasing a British plane then?

Do not come up with some bullshit story about it being broken, because frankly. no one beliefs you !Not even your own people.

She is afraid to use it in case it is seized! and by any definition, that is humiliating!
104 Nostrolldamus The 5th (#) Jan 06th, 2013 - 06:43 pm Report abuse
A bombardier jet is not British you oaf!!!

A short-term circumspect approach is a small price to pay to see the bankers get absolutely nothing for eternity. They've gotten nothing, have lost on all court fronts in all continents, have lost twice in a restructuring unitaterally done by Argentina... they have an ignominous record of defeat against us.
105 reality check (#) Jan 06th, 2013 - 06:52 pm Report abuse
No, but the company she leased it from is most certainly Britsh!!!!!! F**** me, what alternate universe are you living in??????

and you have the balls to call me an oaf!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sorry, made agender assumption then!
106 Nostrolldamus The 5th (#) Jan 06th, 2013 - 06:55 pm Report abuse
@105

I'm sure they accepted pesos and are so desperate for clients (no one can afford jets in the UK anymore is my assumption), that they are willing to sell themselves to the lowest bidder, and to an enemy to boot.
107 reality check (#) Jan 06th, 2013 - 07:08 pm Report abuse
You can assume what you like, the rest of us will assume it was $US and up front, thank you very much.

Oh and we are not the ones calling for boycott of UK goods and services, she is.
Keep on twisting and squirming, it does not alter the facts. She is going on a foreign business tour and it' s a British company that's taking her.
108 andy65 (#) Jan 06th, 2013 - 07:11 pm Report abuse
@Nostrolldamus The, It's your leader The Botox Queen thats more than happy to sell herself,she's prostituted herself around South America looking for support sold herself to Daddy Chavez FOR SURE along with her EVIL SISTER Alicia Castro, pair of old prosses for want of a better word Kirchner even flew to Cuba last week to get a fix of Chavez even when he's on his deaf bed
109 Anbar (#) Jan 06th, 2013 - 07:12 pm Report abuse
Regardless of how mad she is, she's also a bit clever with PR, you ahve to give her, or her team, that much at least.

Everybody loves a party, a day off and so forth... most wont have a clue what it is over, or that it is hiding a terrible embarrassment... but getting away with turning it into a nationalist celebration.

credit where it is due.

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“A short-term circumspect approach is a small price to pay to see the bankers get absolutely nothing for eternity. They've gotten nothing, have lost on all court fronts in all continents, have lost twice in a restructuring unitaterally done by Argentina... they have an ignominous record of defeat against us.”

christ but you're SO ruddy naive Nostro:

bankers always get their pound of flesh, always and they dont care if it DOES take eternity.... for there will always be bankers even if there may not always be an Argentina.

for gods sake go do some travelling around the world and get some RL experience.

--------

“It is much easier to beat an inflation problem than to beat a “growth” problem.


the PROBLEM - the REAL problem, is that nobody but baboons believe the economic figures from the Argentine government.... so putting “real growth in GDP” is a bit of a piss-take when including any Argentine statistics. The Argentine Gov quite literally just makes its numbers up.

What's funny is that some people CHOSE to believe them... naive burks :-0
110 andy65 (#) Jan 06th, 2013 - 07:19 pm Report abuse
@Anbar (#) Very embarrassing when you have to protect your countrys assets by not being able to use them beyond your own borders

@Nostrolldamus The, Argentina (on its own figures) as dropped 7 places in GDP rankings is now 27th so dropped out of the G20 that will help old Crissy with her travel plans ,no more G20 meetings no more expensive BRITISH jets to hire
111 LEPRecon (#) Jan 06th, 2013 - 07:33 pm Report abuse
@109 Anbar

Baboons are very intelligent, so they certainly wouldn't believe TMBOA any more than any normal sane person.

Nostril/Tobias is of course completely nationalistic and probably unbalanced, as he can't get his medication anymore (stuck at the border waiting fr the hospital to export soya). It's because of people like him that Argentina is fecked.

They are completely unable to critise themselves or teir country, because to do so would (in their demented world view) be unpatriotic. No doubt in the 1970's and 1980's he wouldn't have been able to critise the junta, and would've supported them and their methods, because not to would've unArgentinian.
112 andy65 (#) Jan 06th, 2013 - 07:35 pm Report abuse
@Nostrolldamus The , Just like your leader A JOKE AND A LOSER.
113 reality check (#) Jan 06th, 2013 - 07:56 pm Report abuse
Typical Malvinista duplicity though, she leases a British plane and we are the ones trading with the enemy! LMFO!
114 Anbar (#) Jan 06th, 2013 - 08:01 pm Report abuse
I wouldnt say that Think & Nostro et al are the only ones on these fora to be unable to take any criticism of their country... emphasis on “any”.

Certainly though none of them are able to grasp the way in which more & more Britons are able to comfortably live with their Nation's past (deeds & misdeeds).

If only the same were true of them, they would be much, much wiser.

That wont happen until they go out into the world a bit though, for all their claims of wordly knowledge they all exhibit terrible naivety and an appalling lack of experience of the wider world....and if they ever did venture therein they appear to have learned little.

The same, alas, is too true of others.

The phrase that springs to mind is “Eyes wide shut.”
115 Anglotino (#) Jan 06th, 2013 - 08:04 pm Report abuse
I heard someone highlighted that Britain had slower growth than Argentina. Probably someone who CAN'T ARGUE.

Argentina contracted more than the UK in the second quarter of 2012 (-0.9 to -0.4) and grew slower in the third quarter (0.6 to 0.9). Supposedly advanced economies like Australia and Britain should always have slower growth than developing countries like Argentina. So let's not even get started on Chile's annual 5.7% or Uruguay's 3.0% or Peru's 6.5%.
116 andy65 (#) Jan 06th, 2013 - 08:06 pm Report abuse
@Anbar (#)Certainly though none of them are able to grasp the way in which more & more Britons are able to comfortably live with their Nation's past (deeds & misdeeds).

They would do well to look at what we have given to the world also
117 slattzzz (#) Jan 06th, 2013 - 08:30 pm Report abuse
@ 80 course your not paying the debt you don't fookin live there you tosser
118 andy65 (#) Jan 06th, 2013 - 08:40 pm Report abuse
@slattzzz LOL Well said, lets hope his bennefits don't get stopped,he's the type that claims them
119 Pete Bog (#) Jan 06th, 2013 - 08:50 pm Report abuse
@104
“A bombardier jet is not British you oaf!!!”

Its Canadian, and they support the FIs right to self determination.

I'm puzzled as to why Argentina hasn't hired a Cuban, Venezualan, Iranian or Syrian jet.

Do you know Nozzy?
120 reality check (#) Jan 06th, 2013 - 08:53 pm Report abuse
Christ, not another expat. Aren't there any bloody domestic Argentines posting on here?
121 andy65 (#) Jan 06th, 2013 - 09:01 pm Report abuse
“The decision to hire a Bombardier is likely to cause embarrassment for the president, whose government has called for a boycott of British business”

This b...h as got so much (saggy) neck there's no way she's embarrassed I just hope the company got paid up front-what they should do is not turn up on day of departure and leave her stranded at the airport then let her fight for a refund.
122 Steve-33-uk (#) Jan 06th, 2013 - 09:52 pm Report abuse
'Pichetto: “Welcome to the Frigate Argentina strengthens position with creditors” - The chief Senate bloc said the act will lead the head of state, Cristina Fernandez, in Mar del Plata “will have a profound significance for the country.” He also referred to the vandalism occurred on December 20 in Bariloche: “Justice must act with the utmost responsibility...”'

www.rionegro.com.ar/diario/pichetto-la-recepcion-a-la-fragata-fortalece-la-posicion-argentina-ante-los-acreedores-1043633-9532-nota.aspx
123 redpoll (#) Jan 06th, 2013 - 10:04 pm Report abuse
Timmerman has come out of his bunker with the statement “people need more employment and less war” True Timmy true brother. As foriegn minster you mentioned the word war so thats what I assume your intentions are. More employment? Where? In Argentina?
124 reality check (#) Jan 06th, 2013 - 10:16 pm Report abuse
There you go then, stand by for yet another diatribe from her about the UK refusing to obey, none existant UN resolutions, to enter into talks over sovereignty of the none existant Malvinas.

Perhaps the UK should preempt her with a press release, something along the lines of the UK supporting the Islanders undeniable right to Self Determination as enshrined by the Charter of the United Nations. Maybe announcing a deployment of Civilian Police to help facilitate the smooth running of the referendum.

No need to actually do it, just announce it, then watch the sparks fly!!!!
125 Nostrolldamus The 5th (#) Jan 07th, 2013 - 12:19 am Report abuse
And again, more proof of the racism against Argentina here. Everyone and everything on this planet is better than us, in every solitary category.

Sounds “objective”.

Then these fools wonder why I take none of them seriously.
126 Anglotino (#) Jan 07th, 2013 - 12:26 am Report abuse
Then please feel free to leave and stop posting.

You choose not to live in Argentina so why do you choose to be here?

You do not add to the discussion, you rarelydiscuss the articles, you do partake in any discourse while pretending to sit above everyone, you continual tell people you won't talk to them when it suits you and you deflect and change the subject seeminly at random.

If you are not part of the solution, then you are part of the problem.

So I suggest you leave because quite frankly, you CAN'T ARGUE.
127 Nostrolldamus The 5th (#) Jan 07th, 2013 - 12:40 am Report abuse
It's laughable how the rest of you just toss about assumptions about other posters like you actually have some Kristallkugel from a Hansel and Gretl tale, that I am a CFK myrmidon, that I am living off people, that I don't live in Argentina, that I'm not Argentine... all arguments of feckless ranters who don't like their endless “traduce Argentina” fulminations interrupted.
128 Captain Poppy (#) Jan 07th, 2013 - 01:05 am Report abuse
Anglotino....ever notice that when nostril is backed into the corner of truth he starts his verbal gymnastics? Is it that he can't argue, or just flustered that he has nothing to say?
If I were that Master, oops .....I forget it's a naval vessel. If I were the Captain of the Libertad, I would be hiding my head in shame and I suspect that he wants to, only he is being ordered to the party. What are they celebrating? Another victory in a financial skirmish from being a deadbeat borrower? The victories are getting narrower and narrower and an indication that they will not continue. But skirmish and firefight victories does not make a war and campaign won.
129 redpoll (#) Jan 07th, 2013 - 01:12 am Report abuse
Snotty has nein Kristallkugelen either. Probably has delusions he is Little Red Riding Hood or Baba Yaga
130 Nostrolldamus The 5th (#) Jan 07th, 2013 - 01:19 am Report abuse
Well, redpoll... you were a good, solid poster till today. I've seen you all over the place ranting about Argentina. I guess you have also entered the inescapable Entonnoir and is falling into the hate argie “tonneau de haine”.
131 Anglotino (#) Jan 07th, 2013 - 02:05 am Report abuse
@127 NT5

“It's laughable how the rest of you just toss about assumptions about other posters like you actually have some Kristallkugel from a Hansel and Gretl tale, that I am a CFK myrmidon, that I am living off people, that I don't live in Argentina, that I'm not Argentine... all arguments of feckless ranters who don't like their endless “traduce Argentina” fulminations interrupted.”

Again you deflect. Tell me where I have made an assumption and correct it. I assume you don't live in Argentina. Am I right or wrong? If you don't reply then I can only based on what I read. I don't believe you are a paid troll which is what I am ASSUMING you meant with myrmidon. Why? Well quite frankly you aren't very good at this. I've come across plenty of more skilled wumao on other sites than I have ever seen here.

Also there is an English word for Kristallkugel. You seem to have assumed I'm a monolingual Anglo-Saxon. Seems assumption are being made by everyone.
132 ElaineB (#) Jan 07th, 2013 - 11:11 am Report abuse
It appears the government has heard rumours that there will be a massive cacerolazos at the 'Sovereignty Party', hence the increased security. Let's hope it is true.
133 Anbar (#) Jan 07th, 2013 - 11:13 am Report abuse
“”Then these fools wonder why I take none of them seriously.“”

In your case it is merely a reflection of your own attitude.

As someone who is openly hostile to anybody non-Argentine and who derides and abuses all Europeans and Americans (north) its pretty amazing that you have the nerve to call anybody else “racist”: you are, after all, the most openly hostile and xenophobic person on these fora.

Also if you want to stop assumptions on your heritage and abode, then just answer the questions as to what/where they are - it isnt exactly rocket science, nor a state secret.

Me? Welsh, Zimbabwean living in the UK.

wow, that was hard.

Of course, when multiple people share the same accounts it is much harder as one has to remember all the other lies, as well as your own.

“”“”all arguments of feckless ranters who don't like their endless “traduce Argentina” fulminations interrupted.“”“”

its largely of your own construction and your own fault, but then blaming others for your self-created problems is a trait that you share with CFK...so colour me un-surprised.
134 Conqueror (#) Jan 07th, 2013 - 12:03 pm Report abuse
@100 Ah, yes. More holidays than anywhere else. Right? Tell us. Are you trying to get the number of your holidays to equal your inflation rate?
@102 So what you're saying is that your ability to refuse to pay your debts is an admirable thing? Could we just remind you that, at the bottom line, you defrauded thousands of ordinary people in a number of countries. You took their life-savings and their pension funds and finished up telling them they could have 30 cents back for each dollar they had invested. Doesn't matter how you dress it up. That's fraud and theft.
@106 No British company would accept a third-world currency. US$ or British£.
@125 Not true! When it comes to belligerency, inadequacy, larceny and mendacity, you're in the top5%.
@127 Alright then. You're just a useless fart! An objective view based on the crap you post. Nothing racist. Your nationality and domicile are irrelevant. You're just a useless, pointless fart!
@130 Useless, pointless fart!
135 Brit Bob (#) Jan 07th, 2013 - 08:12 pm Report abuse
If the ATFA don't get Argentina then the IMF is coming before the end of the month. Bring on the Red Card!
136 ProRG_American (#) Jan 07th, 2013 - 10:19 pm Report abuse
I wish I were there to receive this beautiful and battle scarred ship. I am sure that I would have a grand time in majestic Mar del Plata as I did in 1998 with my Argentine Navy Colleagues. What a glorious day for Argentina and Latin Amreica. An example of steadfastness and commitment.
My warm hearted congratulations to CFK, the Argentine Armed Forces, and the Argentine Nation on behalf on the working people of the United States of America. Our Nation, People, and Government are behind you 110%. Your nation is fighting a just war against the usureres in defense of us all.
Keen thinking Mdme. President. I am sure that the Bubbly man will make a bundle. More profits, more taxes.
I wish I were there.
137 porteño55 (#) Jan 07th, 2013 - 10:28 pm Report abuse
Apparently WPP doesn't see the dark future for argentina as some here would like to think:

Seeing Opportunity, WPP Adds to Its Investments in Latin America Martin Sorrell, chief executive of the British advertising giant WPP, says he sees growth prospects in Latin America. The firm has taken a 20 percent stake in an information technology services company based in Argentina.

I'm not Kirchnerista, just don't think if an important British company invests here I don't think they are fools. I think they invest despite Cristina, and despite Cameron.
138 ProRG_American (#) Jan 07th, 2013 - 10:45 pm Report abuse
137 porteño55 (#)
“Apparently WPP doesn't see the dark future for argentina ”
Nice little detail. Every little bit of information serves well on this site to dislodge some of those self imposed brain stops most of the Brit particants seem to have.
139 quetzald (#) Jan 07th, 2013 - 10:51 pm Report abuse
many comments, to discuss stupidities....
140 redpoll (#) Jan 07th, 2013 - 11:07 pm Report abuse
@136 “Battle scarred ship?” Which battles? Please elucidate on that
141 Clyde15 (#) Jan 07th, 2013 - 11:38 pm Report abuse
#140
Didn't you know that she left Ghana with guns blazing and her heroic crew fighting off the pirates of the Royal Navy who were waiting for her out at sea. In the ensuing fight, she sank HMS Astute by ramming it ,seriously damaged HMS Daring then left her pursuers in her wake. Of course the British will lie about their ignominious defeat but the whole world will know the truth.
No doubt WPP will be called on to produce an advertising campaign with T shirts and stickers to celebrate the glorious victory.
142 Troy Tempest (#) Jan 07th, 2013 - 11:39 pm Report abuse
@136 ProFARt

“I wish I were there to receive this beautiful and battle scarred ship. I am sure that I would have a grand time in majestic Mar del Plata as I did in 1998 with my Argentine Navy Colleagues. What a glorious day for Argentina and Latin Amreica. An example of steadfastness and commitment. ”

Stop it, stop it, you're killing me !!!

Killing me with laughter, LOL LOL LOL !!!

You?? You, in the Argentine Navy??? LOL

On another thread, you said you were in the US Navy!! Even more ridiculous!!!

Go on, say some 'navy' things. Waiting, how funny!

“Keen thinking Mdme. President. ” STOP, please !!

ROFL - oh how funny!!

“...on behalf on the working people of the United States of America. Our Nation, People, and Government are behind you 110%”

What do you know of 'working people'??

You spend all your time on here, despising them as suckers and perpetuating CFK's lies so that she can rob them and manipulate them.

That would have been the funniest line yet, if it were not so sad.

Honestly, this is the most stupid posted you've ever come up with!
143 redpoll (#) Jan 07th, 2013 - 11:43 pm Report abuse
@141. Yes clyde its fun baiting him. He falls for it every time so much so that is become a bit boring
144 ChrisR (#) Jan 08th, 2013 - 05:42 pm Report abuse
The battle scarring was the shit stains on the deck when they thought the Ghanaians were going to bring their 50 cal BMG into play.

Ha, ha, ha.
145 agent999 (#) Jan 08th, 2013 - 06:35 pm Report abuse
A great Argentinian post on Clarion

ie that KK will celebrate a third world country they seized a boat. Tomorrow we celebrate that Maximito hemorrhoids were cured, why not?
146 ProRG_American (#) Jan 08th, 2013 - 06:49 pm Report abuse
Obviously some are still squirming about the victory of this great ship
under the protection of international law in the world struggle against the usurers and vultures. Many were hoping to see this marvel sail into the Thames or Portsmouth as a vulture prize. Dream on, dream on.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=txlXcJDtDwM

Instead, on January 9 she will sail into Mar Del Plata with hundreds of boats to welcome her, thousands upon thousands of visitors to chear her and her crew. Only a rehersal for theMalvinas recovery party.
Pass the bubbly.
147 Troy Tempest (#) Jan 08th, 2013 - 07:46 pm Report abuse
@ProARGNTINIAN

“...she will sail into Mar Del Plata with hundreds of boats to welcome her, ”

and THOUSANDS of protesters against CFK.

Isn't she worried about making a public appearance by now??

It will be interesting to see if she appears in public, in her own country, at least.

It has been said that a lot of money has been offered to her personal guards and border and security forces to do her in.

Waiting.
148 ProRG_American (#) Jan 08th, 2013 - 08:11 pm Report abuse
In response to some comments above, I am not Argentine and I am not a Peronist. I am American (USA) not American (Argentine). California born and bred.
The president will be there to join her people in celebration.
147 Troy Tempest (#)
“It has been said that a lot of money has been offered to her personal guards and border and security forces to do her in.”
Oh really. So where did you learn about such a conspiracy? Somewhere in The Sun I imagine? Or better yet, do you have some connection with someone involved with this? Go ahead, tell me how you found out? Who told you? I promise, I won't tell.
149 GFace (#) Jan 08th, 2013 - 08:20 pm Report abuse
@148, ”In response to some comments above, I am not Argentine and I am not a Peronist. I am American (USA) not American (Argentine). California born and bred.“

Americans who support the Argentine claim on the Falklands are often left-oriented and are very sensitive to race matters. As such they do not use racists pejoratives like you did on a previous Libertad thread which the moderator had the class to remove. And if you were indeed a racist Californian you would have used a very different racist epithet against Africans than the one you chose. You might as well have misspelled color with a ”u.”

You're a fake.
150 redpoll (#) Jan 08th, 2013 - 08:56 pm Report abuse
So hes Californian, the land of US nutcases. BTW wasnt California stolen from the Mexicans?
151 Troy Tempest (#) Jan 08th, 2013 - 09:12 pm Report abuse
@150 redpoll

California was NOT stolen from the Mexicans - they sold it to the US when they realised it would cost too much to keep it.

Mexicans, the educated ones, will tell you it was not stolen. The 'theft' is a myth, like the Malvinas issue
152 redpoll (#) Jan 08th, 2013 - 09:57 pm Report abuse
Thanks Troy Stand corrected
153 Troy Tempest (#) Jan 08th, 2013 - 10:37 pm Report abuse
@152 Redpoll

It's funny, my Mexican tour guide (and historian) trained by the Mexican Gov't Tourist Authority, made a point of relating the story.
The selling price IIRC was $150m.

Pro-Argentinian,
I just spent a couple of weeks in Cslifornia. No sign of you.
In fact, NO frothing, angry, demented, weirdos encountered at all !!

As to CFK, lots of nasty comments on an African forum over Xmas.
It seems that the 'real' African posters don't like Argentina and their government and government trolls, insulting them.

I wonder why???
154 ProRG_American (#) Jan 08th, 2013 - 11:30 pm Report abuse
151 Troy Tempest (#)
“California was NOT stolen from the Mexicans - they sold it to the US when they realised it would cost too much to keep it.”
It was sold? Really? At gunpoint though. Just like Gibraltar.

“Pro-Argentinian,
I just spent a couple of weeks in Cslifornia. No sign of you.
In fact, NO frothing, angry, demented, weirdos encountered at all !!
”“
Not weird, angry, or demented. All of us in California moved away from English cult long ago.

”As to CFK, lots of nasty comments on an African forum over Xmas.
It seems that the 'real' African posters don't like Argentina and their government and government trolls, insulting them.

Show me a link. More likely Brit Turnip opportunists rying to exploit the situation after another failure.
I'll show you how Ghanan's feel about themsdelves after the embarassment that their incompetent and corrupt legal system has put them through.
155 Troy Tempest (#) Jan 08th, 2013 - 11:54 pm Report abuse
@154 Frothing Prosti-troll

Sorry, buddy - you ARE frothing demented and angry.

Californian, you're NOT!

@149 Gforce
“Americans who support the Argentine claim on the Falklands are often left-oriented and are very sensitive to race matters. As such they do not use racists pejoratives like you did on a previous Libertad thread which the moderator had the class to remove. And if you were indeed a racist Californian you would have used a very different racist epithet against Africans than the one you chose. You might as well have misspelled color with a ”u.” ”

Thanks, Gforce, I agree he's not in the slightest bit, convincing. It's like Sussie saying he's from Tempe Arizona. LOL

C'mon, Prosti-ARG, give us something so that we know you are not lying through your teeth. You want the credibility of an 'outside observer', show us you deserve it.
Likewise, everyone on here got a good laugh at your 'US Navy experience' or was it the argentine navy?? I'm sure you claimed to be both at different times!
There are plenty of US military personnel on this site who can verify you are legit, if you just give them an example of Navy protocol or proceedures, slang, rituals, anything... ???

We asked you before, but you did not reply. I guess you don't have a clue, right????

@154 Prosti-ARG
“I'll show you how Ghanan's feel about themsdelves after the embarassment that their incompetent and corrupt legal system has put them through”

BS on that one. Argie troll fakes dominated the comments sections of the Ghana news sites, pretending they were from Africa or other countries.

Oh, oh, wait a minute... !!!
LOL, that sounds SO familiar.
Where have we encountered THAT before????

3 guesses...
156 Captain Poppy (#) Jan 09th, 2013 - 02:28 am Report abuse
#136 Pro American RG Shut your fucking latin mouth and stop trying to speak for me and all USA Americans and stop pretending to be one. There are NO Americans behind supporting anything that asslips kirchner and argentina does.
What battle group did you serve with and what class ship? Ever been under the mast?
157 Pugol-H (#) Jan 09th, 2013 - 08:05 pm Report abuse
@150 redpoll
Sold to, or stolen by the US, the Mexicans did steal it from the Indians in the first place don’t forget.
158 Troy Tempest (#) Jan 10th, 2013 - 12:00 am Report abuse
@157 Pugol H

“Stolen by the Mexicans”

The Argies won't understand that.

SPAIN , those rotten Europeans, they stole it from the Indians and the Mexicans inherited it from Spain, and THEN, the unprincipled Brit culture, US stole it from Mexico.
- THAT would resonate better with our Argentine audience.

:-)
159 GFace (#) Jan 10th, 2013 - 08:23 pm Report abuse
@158, .“SPAIN , those rotten Europeans, they stole it from the Indians and the Mexicans inherited it from Spain, and THEN, the unprincipled Brit culture, US stole it from Mexico.”

.. which ipso facto means that Mexico belongs to Argentina. Epic.
160 Pugol-H (#) Jan 10th, 2013 - 11:51 pm Report abuse
Argentina inherited Mexico because of the treaty they signed with the Aztec empress Kristazumatina, as mentioned in the ancient Mayan texts, next to (or even “adjacent to”) the bit about the end of the world that happened just the other week.
161 Troy Tempest (#) Jan 11th, 2013 - 03:02 am Report abuse
Anything mentioned about her High Priestess Kastro-kaka cutting out the still-beating hearts of the 'sacrifices', or perhaps the mystic shaman Nostroplotzl ??
162 quetzald (#) Jan 12th, 2013 - 04:59 pm Report abuse
I imagine that behind this forum, there must be people with a lot imaginiacion.
Should use their imagination to things more intelligent.
The Malvinas are Argentinas
163 ChrisR (#) Jan 12th, 2013 - 06:44 pm Report abuse
162 quetzald

Then I should start to do what you say: there are NO Malvinas.
164 Troy Tempest (#) Jan 12th, 2013 - 06:50 pm Report abuse
@162quetzald

“The Malvinas are Argentinas”

The Malvinas are imaginary islands, invented by Spanish people's of South America in the early 1800's.

However, only Falkland Islanders live in the Falkland Islands. They have been there for 180 years, living peacefully and uninterrupted until 31 years ago, when 10,000 Argentinian troops sneak attacked the unarmed civilian population and imprisoned them.
Millions of average Argentine citizens cheered in the streets that Argentina was great, and their junta government was great.

Less than 3 months later, a smaller force of British soldiers liberated the Islanders and defeated the illegal occupiers.

Thousands of Argentine protesters declared that the Junta was now bad.

Now, it starts again.
165 British_Kirchnerist (#) Jan 14th, 2013 - 06:53 pm Report abuse
Lovely to see Cristina and Argentina celebrating real achievements =)
166 Clyde15 (#) Jan 14th, 2013 - 09:17 pm Report abuse
#165
What achievement is that ?

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