Monday, January 14th 2013 - 03:12 UTC

Falklands’ referendum: CFK letter to PM Cameron distributed to UN General Assembly members

The open letter sent by Argentine president Cristina Fernandez to Prime Minister David Cameron demanding the return of the Falkland Islands, which allegedly were “forcibly stripped” from Buenos Aires in 1833 will be distributed as a document among members of the UN General Assembly, on request from the Argentine ambassador Maria Perceval.

PM Cameron ready to respect and defend Falklands’ referendum all the way

The letter was released on 3 January 2013-01-13

The former Senator and recently named to replace Jorge Argüello as ambassador before the UN, formally asked that the letter be incorporated to Program 45 on the so called Falklands/Malvinas question. Secretary General Ban-Ki-moon gave the green light.

Last 3 January, Cristina Fernandez addressed a 212-word letter to PM David Cameron, which was later published as an ad in several British newspapers, timed to mark the anniversary of when on 3 January 1833 Britain took control of the Falklands.

The letter is also in anticipation of the coming referendum that the Falkland Islands will be holding next March, with international observers, to decide on their status and future, basically is they wish to remain British and which has infuriated the administration of President Cristina Fernandez.

The letter stated that “180 years ago on this same date, January 3rd, in a blatant exercise of 19th century colonialism, Argentina was forcibly stripped of the Malvinas Islands, which are situated 14,000 km away from London”. It adds that “the Argentines on the Islands were expelled by the Royal Navy and the United Kingdom subsequently began a population implantation process similar to that applied to other territories under colonial rule and since then Britain, the colonial power, has refused to return the territories to the Argentine Republic, thus preventing it from restoring its territorial integrity”.

However the letter sparked immediate reactions from the Falkland Islands elected government, PM Cameron and the Foreign Office.

Dr Barry Elsby, Member of the Legislative Assembly of the Falkland Islands, pointed out that “we are not a colony – our relationship with the United Kingdom is by choice”, adding that “unlike the Government of Argentina, the UK respects the right of our people to determine our own affairs, a right that is enshrined in the UN Charter and which is which is ignored by Argentina”.

A spokesperson for the Foreign Office strenuously denied the Argentine arguments saying that “the people of the Falklands are British and have chosen to be so. They remain free to choose their own futures, both politically and economically, and have a right to self-determination as enshrined in the UN Charter.

“This is a fundamental human right for all peoples. There are three parties to this debate, not just two as Argentina likes to pretend. The Islanders can’t just be written out of history.

“As such, there can be no negotiations on the sovereignty of the Falkland Islands unless and until such time as the Islanders so wish.”

PM Cameron said the UK would “respect and defend” the result of the plebiscite and in later statements underlined that Britain was prepared de defend the Falklands and the March referendum results, and had the necessary means to do so.

The Falkland Islands government also released at the time the booklet “Our Islands, Our History”, a succinct summary of key aspects of the Falkland Islands history, which exposed much of the tergiversation and manipulation of historic facts with which Argentina pretends to support its claim over the Islands.

“Our Islands, Our History” was published by MercoPress and is also available as a free digital download on the Falkland Islands Government website. Hard copies will be available in late January.
 

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1 Marcos Alejandro (#) Jan 14th, 2013 - 04:24 am Report abuse
Cameron needs to abandon anachronistic notions of false pride and return Malvinas to Argentina.
Britain needs to return the empire stolen items to their rightful owners.
2 Malvinero1 (#) Jan 14th, 2013 - 04:37 am Report abuse
That's rigth Alejandro..uk is all alone...poor demented losers...
HApy New Year and Merry Christmas Alejandro!
3 Frank (#) Jan 14th, 2013 - 04:45 am Report abuse
I sent a letter to Santa and haven't received my pressies yet, maybe I should send copies to the General Assembly.

@1 and 2 You poor demented wankers.
4 Anglotino (#) Jan 14th, 2013 - 05:02 am Report abuse
Wow I guess it is too much to expect Marcos Alejandro or Malvinero1 to actually say anything new......

Yeah yeah Britain stole the islands - so what!

Yeah yeah Britain is all alone - so what!

Britain is evil.... Britain is an empire.... Britain is going broke.... Britain is weak....

Blah blah blah. I guess they can't argue much more because the Argentine government can't either.

Though I am glad Argentina has distributed this document to all UN members. They are doing a lot to advertise and highlight the up and coming referendum. Please CFK, talk about it more so that people start to take notice.

Because a vote is hard to miss and thanks to Argentina it is getting more and more notice around the world.

Oh and before ANYONE starts quoting UN resolutions, please be aware that all UN resolutions are subservient to the UN Charter.

Chapter 1 Article 1 Paragraph 2

“To develop friendly relations among nations based on respect for the principle of equal rights and self-determination of peoples”

There is nothing about territorial integrity in the UN Charter.

There is nothing any any SINGLE UN resolution that negates self determination.

So don't even bother guys. Find a new tact.
5 Boovis (#) Jan 14th, 2013 - 05:59 am Report abuse
Can't the UK just issue a document addressing each of Argentina's claims and with proof, something the Argies never provide?
6 LEPRecon (#) Jan 14th, 2013 - 06:03 am Report abuse
Well the UNGA can always use more toilet paper.

To posters 1 and 2, if Argentina's sovereignty claim is so solid why don't you PROVE it at the ICJ?

No? Why? Because your sovereignty claim is a lie, based on other lies, and you have no EVIDENCE to back up any of your erroneous claims.

Once again you government is bothering the rest of the world, who have far more important things to deal with, in an ever increasingly desperate attempt to divert the attention of the Argentine public.

This is probably being released today to distract the 'people' from the fact that your president is spending all the taxpayers money on extremely expensive hotel rooms, and I'll bet she uses the minibar too...

Aregentine President: Pathetic, Desperate, WEAK.
7 Lord Ton (#) Jan 14th, 2013 - 06:07 am Report abuse
Cannot return something to someone who has never owned it MoreCrap.

Argentina still struggling with the real version of history I see. 1833 wasn't important. A minor police action. Now 1829 - that was important.

You were warned :-)

falklandstimeline.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/falklands-war-the-first-400-years-pdf.pdf
8 Boovis (#) Jan 14th, 2013 - 06:13 am Report abuse
Interesting, by the way, is that CFK fired certain people for NOT anticipating the problems for the Libertad in Ghana, but the bartender of the Libertad said in October that they should have known, and he was fired for speaking against the government. Seems these tinpots can't make their minds up. If in doubt, fire everyone?!
9 toooldtodieyoung (#) Jan 14th, 2013 - 07:05 am Report abuse
I love that KFC / TMBOA / Ol' Turkey Neck / Asslips Kitchner / The Harpy is so obbessed with the Falklands while conveniently ignoring the the land which they have “forcibly stripped” from their neighbours.

What about their “territorial integrity” huh???

Shouldn't they be ”Demanding” of Argentina, land that has be “forcibly stripped” from them?

Or shouldn't Argentina be returning them of her own free will to show what a friendly neighbour she is?

The hypocrisy being displayed here is quite stunning
10 Xect (#) Jan 14th, 2013 - 07:52 am Report abuse
I shouldn't worry too much about our Argentine friends.

You can say someone stole something a billion times but if you have no evidence to prove it and Argentina does not, you've got zero chance of anyone actually believe it and in this case see Ban Ki Moon's statement on the matter.

And if that wasn't bad enough if your own story is also and obviously fictitious then all you have is people laughing and at you until they tire of your endless complaints and in this case, its the world who is completely and utterly fed up with the lies and deceit of the Argentine government and people.

You have become more irrelevant with the increase of your lies and bullying and childish behavior towards the islanders.

You are pathetic.
11 toxictaxitrader2 (#) Jan 14th, 2013 - 07:56 am Report abuse
9 toooldtodieyoung
Excuse my ignorance,but can anyone list these ?I know about“ The conquest of the desert”
12 Frank (#) Jan 14th, 2013 - 08:50 am Report abuse
They have stolen stuff from Paraguay and Uruguay and have tried it on with Chile. Thieving is one of the very few things the RGs are quite good at.... but not good enough.
13 inthegutter (#) Jan 14th, 2013 - 08:50 am Report abuse
Do our Argentine posters think that Argentina should return the land forcibly stripped during the Conquest of the Desert? Given they'll probably claim that didn't happen, how about the land stolen from Paraguay during the War of the Triple Alliance?
14 reality check (#) Jan 14th, 2013 - 09:11 am Report abuse
Paper, waste, bin. That's about as much attention the UN are going to allot to this letter. They have bigger and more pressing matters to deal with happening today, they will not bother with issues that allegedly took place 180 years ago.
15 Musky (#) Jan 14th, 2013 - 09:45 am Report abuse
If argentina really wants the UN to sit up and take note, it should circulate the letter to each Ambassador with a large box of Ferrero Rocher!
16 Zool (#) Jan 14th, 2013 - 10:56 am Report abuse
Dear Santa,
For Christmas this year I would like the Falklands & a Pony & all my enemies to die horrific deaths so I can take control of their lands.

Thanks Cristina

P.S The North Pole belongs to Argentina you colonial dog.
17 Britworker (#) Jan 14th, 2013 - 11:03 am Report abuse
Argentina is turning into one big yawn factory, all that these cowards can do us hide behind the UN. If you want it, come and take it, otherwise STFUp.
18 jeffski (#) Jan 14th, 2013 - 11:06 am Report abuse
Why not give official cites and the sources for the claims in the letter, this would then back up her claims!!

Oh I forgot, it's all made up lies and bullshit. Just what the UN General Assembly really needs right now,it's not like they have any real matters to deal with.
19 Room101 (#) Jan 14th, 2013 - 11:19 am Report abuse
Look for orchestrated events in the streets of Argentina around Referendum time...There will be some notable, sensible, absentees though.
20 andy65 (#) Jan 14th, 2013 - 11:20 am Report abuse
@Marcos Alejandro ,Malvinero1 Argentina, spins lies and propoganda to its own peiople on a daily bases also you have been speaking this crap at The UN for years ask your STUPID self IS ANYONE REALLY LISTENING???? also have you noticed old botox Crissy Cruchner is replacing men in these post with Hard Fced looking women Maria Percaval(I hope she bathed and washed her hair she looked FILTHY in her photo) Alicia Castro (looks like a bloke in drag) Crissy, Cruchner I believe they think if they keep shouting there latino GOBS loud enough then it will work
They need to concentrate on the 25% who are living on $7 per day that's just over £4 WHAT A DISGRACE.
21 Burn1938 (#) Jan 14th, 2013 - 11:45 am Report abuse
As always wasting everybody elses time ! I would say most people have read the letter and the reply by the Sun . Here , in far away Paraguay , the letter and reply received full coverage !
22 Steveu (#) Jan 14th, 2013 - 11:50 am Report abuse
It's a pointless request in any case as the UN, as constituted, cannot adjudicate on pre 1945 border disputes.

Any non-binding resolutions that request that the UK and Arg find a peaceful solution were rudely blown out of the water in 1982.

Things have moved on and the old bi-partite talks are gone - there will be no discussions unless the FIG are involved and in agreement.
23 andy65 (#) Jan 14th, 2013 - 12:18 pm Report abuse
Would the Argentine posters on this forum kindly comment why in 1982 when you animals illegally invaded The Falkland Islands and when The UN security council voted that Argentina withdraw immediately,now surely if you had so much suport for your lies and propoganda no such resolution would have been passed infact surely it would have been a GREEN LIGHT for The UN to say Argentina you are right so stay ??

”On the evening of the 3 April, Britain's United Nations ambassador Sir Anthony Parsons put a draft resolution to the United Nations Security Council. The resolution, which condemned the hostilities and demanded immediate Argentine withdrawal from the Islands, was adopted by the council the following day as United Nations Security Council Resolution 502, which passed with ten votes in support, one against (Panama) and four abstentions (China, the Soviet Union, Poland and Spain).[26][27][28] The UK received further political support from the Commonwealth of Nations and the European Economic Community”
24 inthegutter (#) Jan 14th, 2013 - 12:52 pm Report abuse
It seems the Malvinistas are unable to answer any of questions - I re-iterate: should Argentina hand back territory forcibly stripped from Paraguay and the Amerindians? If not, why?
25 Conqueror (#) Jan 14th, 2013 - 01:06 pm Report abuse
@1 & 2 Why would the UK give any territory to a genocidal, implanted population?

It seems that our malvinista “friends” have done another thing that argies do well. They've run away!
26 Gustbury (#) Jan 14th, 2013 - 01:22 pm Report abuse
that's a internal problems,our problems,Brits are a external problem and must to be elimanated !
27 andy65 (#) Jan 14th, 2013 - 01:33 pm Report abuse
Well I see it was another good night for British Talent at the Golden Globes seems no such luck for Argentina even Crissy Cruchner in this starring role as HERSELF failed to impress.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lwqd4cOJsPg
28 yankeeboy (#) Jan 14th, 2013 - 02:00 pm Report abuse
I am so tired of listening to these whiny Rgs I wish the UK would give them a slap and shut them up for another 30 yrs.
29 malicious bloke (#) Jan 14th, 2013 - 02:15 pm Report abuse
It may be coming sooner than you think. Cristina Hitler gives every impression of being totally mental and increasingly desperate.

If her grip on power domestically gets shaky enough she may *just* be mad enough to have a crack at a third Argie invasion of the islands. The problem this time is that the defences are there to prevent them even landing.

[Irrelevant aside]In my latest game on Hearts of Iron Argentina joined the axis shortly before Japan, they landed on the Falklands while most of my Royal Navy was busy blapping the italians in the mediterranean. Then spring 1942 rolls round, I recapture the islands, completely destroy the Argentine navy and set up submarine blockades of every Argentine port effectively rendering their participation in the war useless until I'm done with Germany and Japan in 1944. At which point the Argies are easy pickings.
30 andy65 (#) Jan 14th, 2013 - 02:24 pm Report abuse
Surely SS Hitler Cristina Kirchner would lose any small ounce of credibility she had if she tried any kind of invasion there is enough verbal footage around not just of her but her EVIL sister also Alicia Castro clearly sayng there will never be armed conflict, again though we have to remember Kirchner tells lies to her followers on a daily bases
31 yankeeboy (#) Jan 14th, 2013 - 02:40 pm Report abuse
There has been enough saber rattling from Argentina to justify a “warning shot”.
I am kinda surprised UK has put up with this deluded mouth thug for so long.
I am sick to death of it.
32 Shed-time (#) Jan 14th, 2013 - 02:54 pm Report abuse
@31 'Calm during a time of anger is worth 100 days of sorrow'. it's better just to wait until they implode into some kind of all consuming internal civil conflict, then you can win the conflict without even fighting.

Sun Zi would have been proud.
33 yankeeboy (#) Jan 14th, 2013 - 03:14 pm Report abuse
Yeah but there is a satisfaction in popping someone right in the mouth.
34 LEPRecon (#) Jan 14th, 2013 - 03:30 pm Report abuse
@33 - yankeeboy

On the other hand the calmer we remain, the more unstable and outrageous the Argentines act, and it is then quite clear to everyone (with half a brain who isn't a dictator) who the aggressor is.

Like as the bible says in Matthew 5:39, “But I tell you, Do not resist an evil person. If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also.”

Of course, he didn't mention that after you have 'turned the other cheek“ and taken the blow, that you hit them back - hard - and send them into next week.

As the saying goes: ”Two hits! Me hitting you and you hitting the floor!” LOL
35 yankeeboy (#) Jan 14th, 2013 - 05:06 pm Report abuse
UK response:
This was settled in 1982
This was settled in 1982
This was settled in 1982
This was settled in 1982
This was settled in 1982
This was settled in 1982
This was settled in 1982

deep breath

This was settled in 1982
This was settled in 1982
This was settled in 1982
This was settled in 1982
This was settled in 1982
36 GFace (#) Jan 14th, 2013 - 05:36 pm Report abuse
The trouble of course is that AR is seeking validation right now. When a headcase does that in office politics this can get messy. The only way for CFK to pull that off her current overall sorry hand is to play the victim card. And methinks the trump victim card that UK is preparing for is for CFK to start a fight with someone who is defending someone smaller by taking a swing at the latter and then crying “Bully!” Once again, right out of the dysfunctional office politics playbook. AR doesn't have to hit hard, they don't even have to use a military asset (lest it be confiscated by creditors) but they can arrange to harass a civilian FI interest at sea, the latter interest will either respond directly (in an “unprovoked” attack) or request an armed support (mind you, nary a shot need be fire, or for that matter a dirty look glanced), and she will have her cross that she can drag around her newly polished marble floor at the UN and bore the security council as if they were Nina Garcia on Project Runway.
37 Gordo1 (#) Jan 14th, 2013 - 06:34 pm Report abuse
It is quite clear that now the world, via the General Assembly of the UN, will see what a pathetic version of history is being presented by Argentina. Immature and undiplomatic behaviour.
38 dab14763 (#) Jan 14th, 2013 - 06:42 pm Report abuse
'and send them into next week.'

LEPRecon,

I think that should be 'send them into last week'. Or 'last month', or 'last year', or 'last decade', or 'last century'
39 briton (#) Jan 14th, 2013 - 08:04 pm Report abuse
perhaps Camaron should also make his reply to CFK availible to all UN members.
40 Vulcanbomber (#) Jan 14th, 2013 - 08:09 pm Report abuse
can someone tell the captain of the sub, to launch 1 through 5 and wipe BA off the map.

This will reduce the level of corruptness by a huge margin nd remove the evil bloater that wants to take argentina into a war it will never win, and will risk the mainland for islands they have never owned, and will never own
41 LEPRecon (#) Jan 14th, 2013 - 08:22 pm Report abuse
@38 - dab14763

Unfortunately they already live in the past. A good shoeing might make them look to the future or at least the present.
42 reality check (#) Jan 14th, 2013 - 09:20 pm Report abuse
@40
Here's a suggestion (Remember the leaflet drops at the start of WW11) why not fill the warheads with 1 dollar US bills, TMBOA, would be trampled to death in the rush and the positive side, no collatoral damage.
43 Musky (#) Jan 14th, 2013 - 09:29 pm Report abuse
@40 vb
Bombs aren't needed as CFK is doing a fine job destroying her country. Time forargentines to snap out of this malvinas hypnotist's trance.
44 Pete Bog (#) Jan 15th, 2013 - 12:06 am Report abuse
@1
“Britain needs to return the empire stolen items to their rightful owners”

They already have, bad- mullet- hairstyle -disaster Mark

Ever member of the British Empire that wanted self-autonomy has been granted it.
45 Shed-time (#) Jan 15th, 2013 - 12:25 am Report abuse
Just take out all the electricity infrastructure, then they'll all be sat there in the darkness with cold 'Vote for Front for Fail' bags of dulce de leche wondering why Les Malvinas and Chile aren't argentine.
46 Marcos Alejandro (#) Jan 15th, 2013 - 03:44 am Report abuse
2 Malvinero1
Thank you and the same for you.
47 yankeeboy (#) Jan 15th, 2013 - 02:48 pm Report abuse
45. The electrical grid has not been maintained since 2001. Electricity goes out all the time all over the country so they are used to sitting in the dark.

UK would be better to take out the few oil refineries or ports. That would send the economy into a tailspin the next day.
48 briton (#) Jan 15th, 2013 - 07:45 pm Report abuse
just drop an E.M.P.
end of..
49 Shed-time (#) Jan 15th, 2013 - 10:05 pm Report abuse
@47 There was that idea of General MacArthur to cut off NE China using a band of radioactive Cobalt. In principle the same idea could be used to cut off Patagonia for 120 years from the rest of Argentina.
50 scottbart (#) Jan 16th, 2013 - 07:51 am Report abuse
LOL havent they already done this?
51 briton (#) Jan 16th, 2013 - 10:53 pm Report abuse
Jorge Argüello asked that the letter be incorporated to the so called Falklands/Malvinas question.
`[[ Secretary General Ban-Ki-moon gave the green light.]]

This fool is one reason CFK is like this, does he fancy her, or just hate the brits,,
He should stop encouraging the argentine government from doing these foolish and stupid stunts.

Does he never learn,
Giving kids sweets before they have earned them,
Make them greedy for more ..

.
52 Malvinero1 (#) Jan 19th, 2013 - 04:13 pm Report abuse
uk si FINISHED,britons and loser brits.2,8 millions unemployed,1,1 trillion public debt..uk is FINISHED Good for NOthing! MALVINAS ARGENTINAS
53 scottbart (#) Jan 19th, 2013 - 07:03 pm Report abuse
52 Malvinero1 (#)
unemployment is not even 2 million, good for nothing, we still have our own defence industry that is one the biggest and best in the world. It builds things that we will use to destroy you if you try your luck again. whats the best plane argentina built, oh yes that pile of shit with the propellers isnt it?

Your 30% inflation and you getting booted out of the WTO and the fact you dont pay bills it looks like your going bust AGAIN.

Many argentines furious because they are being FORCED not to have dollars but instead have the risky worthless Peso. Thats righ your government has to use force because any argentine worth their salt knows that you going to go bust AGAIN!

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