UK wants to control South Atlantic access and resources, claims Argentina
Argentina claimed at the CELAC summit in Chile that the UK has converted the Falkland Islands into one of the “most militarized territories in the world” with the sole purpose of exploiting the natural resources of the Islands and control access to Antarctica.
“We believe that the sole purpose of militarization is to guarantee the exploitation of natural resources and hydrocarbons” claimed Deputy Foreign minister Eduardo Zuain addressing the Community of Latinamerican and Caribbean States summit on Monday.
He was speaking for President Cristina Fernandez who had left Sunday evening following on CELAC’s first summit with representatives from Europe 27.
“The British government is after the military control of the South Atlantic, the issuing of ‘savage’ fishing licences and controlling access to Antarctica”, added the Argentine official who also thanked the rest of the CELAC members for their support to the claim over the Malvinas Islands, because “we want a Latinamerica free of colonialism”.
However Zuain was quick to argue that Argentina wants to resolve the dispute on the Malvinas sovereignty through “peaceful negotiations” with the UK. Argentina also claims the South Georgia, South Sandwich Islands and adjoining maritime spaces.
Zuain affirmed that in the Falklands there is “one soldier for every three civilians”, which makes it one of the most militarized areas of the world.
On Sunday evening before leaving for Buenos Aires, President Cristina Fernandez said that during the meeting with her peer and host Sebastian Piñera, the Chilean leader “gave her his country’s full support in the Malvinas sovereignty cause”.
President Piñera also expressed his desires to “expand their ties in Antarctica, where both countries share historic and essential rights, and where they must expand their unity.”
Cristina Fernandez delegation also included the new ambassador in Washington Cecilia Nahón who told the Argentine media she would be taking her office in Washington “in a couple of week”
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What they mean is that despite the UK being there 1st, Argentina believes it is it's God given right to do the controlling and exploiting and sod everyone else.
There is no militarisation, and the more Argentina bleat on about it the more foolish they make themselves look.
The savage 'issuing' of fishing licenses is amusing, especially as Argentina publicly told the world that they were going to encourage over-fishing in the hopes of damaging the Falklands fishing industry, while the Falklands have held out the hand of friendship and cooperation, only to be ignored by the 'we only want peace' government, that says one thing and acts in a very aggressive and threatening manner.
And the reason that Argentina wants to resolve things by peaceful negotiation is lying on its side in Port Belgrano.
The short answer is that we don't. If you were paying attention, you would know that the UK does not want to have a garrison on the falklands and the Islanders themselves do not want a military presence either but we HAVE to have a military presence on the islands because if we didn't, Argentina would be in there like swimwear.
Before you could say “We want to remain british” the Argentine government would have their own military presence on the Island and would have deported all the Islanders to Montevideo.
So, to your comment about:-
“If I was a suspicious man I would think there was some other purpose to this military presence on the islands that Argentina objects to.”
I say there is no other purpose to this military presence on the islands that Argentina objects to. other than preventing the Argentines stealing them away from the Falkland Islanders.
There are probably more land mines per head of population than anywhere else on earth. Maybe she should be reminded of that stat.
I think you may have got hold of the wrong end of the stick with that post.
So you state you are not a suspicious man, clearly you are not suspicious of your own country's intentions., which is to divert your attention away from the dismal job CFK is doing, flushing your country down the toilet. Britain is protecting its people, protecting is sovereignty, protecting its assets, protecting protecting protecting. Now just imagine that you owned the falklands but Chile was aiming the same (hypocritical) rhetoric at you, trying to break you economically, trying to remove your rights to govern your own land, even launching an invasion What would you do? You would protect it.
Better to just leave them in the corner and hope the vet can put them down.
RICO is pointing out that British forces do not search for/extract oil, and that they are there for a far, far more obvious reason.
Yes I read Rico's post differently too, I think he was pointing out there was an obvious and logical reason to British troops being there.
If CFK can explain how the UK could control the South Atlantic (with all the UK's other military committments and financial short-falls) we'll admit that we've been wrong to suppose that she is totally inept at diplomacy or economic wisdom.
An attack by the military from either side would involve international condemnation and China might even close its Bank...
It it does look as if CFK's psychotherapist isn't having much progress
with the patient.
At the very least, CFK ought to change her advisors.
Read it again if you don't believe me: “We believe that the sole purpose of militarization is to guarantee the exploitation of natural resources and hydrocarbons” claimed Deputy Foreign minister Eduardo Zuain
...and that must mean attempting a physical intervention, as that's all a military force could counter.
And CELAC does not bat an eyelid. Disgusting.
I would give the following odds on who they would replace the UK with.
Uruguay. Evens
Chilli. 5/1
Paraguay. 10/1
Brazil 150/1
Venezuala 1.ooo.ooo/1
The only thing they're missing is Big Brother, but I guess that involves some kind of working infrastructure.
Oh where, oh where, can my HUGO be?
The Lord took HIM away from me.
HE's gone to heaven so I've got to be good,
So I can see my HUGO when I leave this world.
When I woke up, the rain was falling down,
There were people standing all around.
Something warm flowing through my eyes,
But somehow I found my HUGO that night.
I lifted HIS head, HE looked at me and said;
“Hold me darling just a little while.”
I held HIM close I kissed HIM - our last kiss,
I found the love that I knew I had missed.
Well now HE's gone even though I hold HIM tight,
I lost my love, my life that night.
It's like blaming the rape victim solely because she is a woman and then publicly shaming her because she carries a can of mace to recent another rape.
Crikey!
You mean the story has changed!
Again!???
I swear the reason changes more times than Argentina sunk the Invincible.
Well that two of the articles of the UN charter they disagree with, why did they bother signing it? Oh that's right, it's Argentina, it's signature, like it's word, means nothing.
Latin logic, you'll get used to it.
Well the only way for Argentina to actually conquer the Falklands would be if the other side was banned from firing back, and even then it is questionable if KFC can put an invasion force to sea considering that the Argie navy is busy sinking in it's own bases.
TMBOA described to a tee.
After all, if the UK has sent a commisioned ship twice per year for the last thirty years then there ought to be sixty commissioned ships (not including HMS Clyde, that is based there).
The Royal Navy currently has active: 4 assault ships, 13 frigates, 5 destroyers, 15 mine countermeasure vessels and 23 patrol vessels (again excluding HMS Clyde), which neatly adds up to 60 commissioned ships.
By the logic of ArgentinaMaths, the UK is currently being defended by HMS Echo, HMS Enterprise, HMS Scott, HMSML Gleaner, HMS Bristol and HMS Victory.
Why do latams go on about colonialism when their nations are all products of european colonialism, and those indigenous people that weren't wiped off the map are at the very least very repressed.
-Sex with transvestite prostitute? check
-Look busy get paid? check
-Return to ''perfect' home ultimately feeling empty for living such a dishonest, meaningless life? check
-Prepare for next weeks circus meeting? check
The UK needs to be prepared to counter the desperation and the Falklands needs to get some representation in DC immediately to counter the lunacy coming from the RG Embassy.
If CFK is worried about colonialism she should first look to her own country!
The Falklands isn't a continent, its a country.
A country is not determined by the number of people living there. We have our own flag, culture and national identity. That makes us a country. Besides, with oil/gas production the population will swell significantly.
You can laugh all you want but the truth of the matter is that Argentina 'wants to control the South Atlantic access and resources' but finds a very determined population standing in its way backed up by a well stocked military. I for one, rather enjoy watching the Jets scream across the harbour when they are doing their practise runs. They make the most wonderful noise when they put the afterburners on. No wonder your government is shaking in fear.
There are a mere 730 in Vatican City. Is this a country or a state or just somebody's backyard.
The population of Greenland is 57,000 yet it is 180 times bigger than the Falklands, giving it a population density 1/10th of the Falklands. So who cares about the population size..
Ho ho bloody ho.
i suppose you could say that “The Conquest Of The Desert” was argentinas way of controlling patagonia but sadly through genocide,appauling!
so how is The UK controlling the south atlantic that is not in the defence of The Falklands at the F.I.G request?
Exactly what Is the UK controlling in the south atlantic?
Who was the last nation to invade a peaceful island community with full military force in the south atlantic and got soundly beaten?
Who was the last nation to use mass genocide against its indigenous peoples in the south atlantic for their land?
and what expansionist threat justifies the need for UK forces in The Falklands anyway?
which latam Defence mincer talked about invading the same country in the south atlantic yet again?
and finally,what is the definition of “SELF-DETERMINATION”?? :DDDD
In your own time windbag!
“A country is a region legally identified as a distinct entity in political geography. A country may be an independent sovereign state or one that is occupied by another state, as a non-sovereign or formerly sovereign political division, or a geographic region associated with sets of previously independent or differently associated peoples with distinct political characteristics.”
The Falkland Islands is a distinct entity in political geography. It is an independent non-sovereign state. It has distinct political characteristics. And, unlike a certain nearby state, its people don't walk over the blood and bones of the original indigenous people that they murdered every day. How DO you feel about walking over all that blood and bones? The evidence of the murders of your predecessors. And not too long ago. Just 1884. That's only 128 years ago. What was your great grandfather doing 128 years ago? Are you a born-again killer? Got any “family” history? Or has it been “re-written”? Or “lost”?
just out of curiousity, what is argentinas official inflation (non-indec)?
and the value of the ever decreasing peso to the US $?
The Empire strikes back,
The return of the British,
But of course Argentina is a good girl,
Never does nothing wrong, goes to church,
Demilitarising ,mm,erm, everybody else,
Poor deluded CFK ,
Her great ambition of having the only great south American Empire,
Is slipping from her greedy slimy grasp,
And its all the fault of the brits,
Still,
She can always go to legoland .lol.
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We also believe in the Easter Bunny, Santa Claus, the world is only 6000 years old and that our beloved President has had no cosmetic surgery.
this is your legacy, please read,
very importent.
CFK in action
We must keep on posting this for the benefit of the free world.
[Malvinas vs Falklands: Negotiations with the U.N ]
www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=-vys78sGB7Y
ha ha .
Whats with the 'want' ? We already can, but don't. Its Argentina that “wants”, but can't.
Argentina is now ripe for takeover.
.
Once Peron's thugs took over all was lost.
its falling apart right under her feet.
The Falkland Islands maintains a defensive shield just sufficient to discourage Argentina from attacking the islands.
Should there be a need to guarantee against attack the exploitation of natural resources and hydrocarbons, this might need more deployment.
There seems to be no need at present as there are no significant pointy weapons aimed at the platforms.
If they were damaged by 'enemy forces', then there would be a need to deploy for attack as well as defence. To take the war TO the 'enemy' needs the use of special weapons. It must be fervently hoped that this never becomes necessary.
At the lower levels of mania, such as hypomania, individuals may appear energetic and excitable. At a higher level, individuals may behave erratically and impulsively, often making poor decisions due to unrealistic ideas about the future, and may have great difficulty with sleep. At the highest level, individuals can show psychotic behavior, including violence. Individuals who experience manic episodes also commonly experience depressive episodes, or symptoms, or a mixed state in which features of both mania and depression are present at the same time. These events are usually separated by periods of “normal” mood; but, in some individuals, depression and mania may rapidly alternate, which is known as rapid cycling. Severe manic episodes can sometimes lead to such psychotic symptoms as delusions and hallucinations. So there you have it in a NUTshell, sorry for the pun. :)
Argentina see's the war as a mistake BECAUSE THEY LOST,the Islands have a strong military presence because Argentina continues to be a threat END OF.
This is a good example of projected imbecility and should be in textbooks.
“To take the war TO the 'enemy' needs the use of special weapons. It must be fervently hoped that this never becomes necessary.”
Special weapons fall into many categories and dependent upon the adversary and the force needed to subdue it, will determine the weapon needed.
In the case of AR, to subdue the whole country and prevent them from getting back into a belligerent state for 50 or more years could be accomplished by the use of non-nuclear tipped rockets and cruise missiles.
Destroying their electricity grid and alternators, the transport nodes for trains and vehicular traffic including buses and a substantial part of the docking facility (except foodstuffs) would be a good start. Not that many people would be killed but millions would be reduced to a medieval existence.
I firmly believe that only when the people who voted these thugs into government get to pay their dues will they really begin to think what has brought this about.
After all, why not? TMBOA seems determined to subject the peaceful people of the Falklands (there are STILL no Malvinas you prats) to much the same or even total extermination. Instead of wasting the UK military budget on useless forays into Asia why not spend it supporting our own people?
No doubt some will think this very harsh but it is better than the alternative.
www.foxnews.com/leisure/2013/01/23/chicken-wing-shortage-looms-ahead-super-bowl/
You can't produce enough chicken wings, that's how low your country has gotten. No one respects you anymore, that's why all over the world people are doing whatever they want to Americans and american assets.
How's Afghanistan going... hahahahahahahahahaha.
Gonna have chicken wings for lunch, haven't eaten those in YEARS (not big into chicken much less deep fried in my country, but there's this American food festival coming up during the Vendimia with American chefs, I'm sure they'll have wings along side the typical tex-mex and dixie + clam chowser offer).
I hear it is over 90F today in BA do you think 1/2 the city will be without electricity by 3pm or the whole thing?
I find it very odd INDEC was able to say Unemployment is steady and in recession. Hmm wonder how? How odd.
Not my fault that such things now happen in your country. Tell me has milk hit 8 dollars yet? How many kids are now sipping on grass brew for breakfast? At least they should thank the fact they didn't get shot.
BTW If we run out of chicken in-country we can buy whatever we need silly boy. We don't have a problem importing anything we want. Of course we still don't want tainted RG beef or poisonous RG lemons.
BTW I saw plenty of bags of them at Costco yesterday. It is nice to go to stores where the shelves are full from products all over the world.
Your peso went down again today it is very close to 8/1. Do you think it will be 10/1 by March?
“You are filled with rage from envy and hate of your betters. It is going to make you sick.”
Funny, I'm just emulating the way you write about us.
And it doesn't make me sick. I can stop at any time. I'll stop right now.
Can you stop??
hahahahaha. Thought so.
www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/argentinas-hypocrites-are-steeped-in-blood/story-fnb64oi6-1226564435227
México and Colombia are two countries which are superior to Argentina economically and culturally - and they don't “blow their own trumpets” as Argentina does. As somebody once said to me “Argentina is the country of the future; sadly it always will be”!
The sky is not falling. There is not an impending chicken wing shortage, the National Chicken Council said, and most wing-eating football fans will not have to worry about having enough for Super Bowl Sunday.
“The good news for consumers is that restaurants plan well in advance to ensure they have plenty of wings for the big game,” Bill Roenigk, chief economist and market analyst at the Washington-based chicken group, said in the 2013 “Wing Report” released by the chicken council this week.
articles.chicagotribune.com/2013-01-25/features/ct-talk-chicken-wing-shortage-0125-20130125_1_chicken-companies-bill-roenigk-national-chicken-council
Did you see the citizens of Venezuela are not able to buy sugar, flour or TOILET PAPER? That is your immediate future not mine.
$7.78/1 peso my oh my will it be over 8 by Friday???
......there goes the falklands cruise business. (except maybe p+o).
It's true. The Falkland Islands are the world's most militarized.
See the following link.
claei.org.mx/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=28:la-amenaza-de-la-otan-en-america-latina&catid=11:articulos&Itemid=7
geopoliticaargentina.wordpress.com/bases-militares-de-la-otan/
vecinosenconflicto.blogspot.com.ar/2012/09/como-opera-la-red-de-bases-militares.html
www.elmangodelhacha.com.ar/revista135/revista135nota1.htm
No doubt Mexico and Colombia are culturally superior to your country, by leagues.
The rest of the world wants a world free of Argentina.
“ full support in the Malvinas sovereignty cause”.”
...and puerto madryn too.
or else.
Your new best friends have bigger problems.
www.reuters.com/article/2012/07/22/iran-economy-chicken-idUSL6E8IJFYV20120722
Just type “argentina economy” into google search, then select “news”
ALWAYS good for a laugh!
I guess it beats being friends with you. Telling.
Which school do you go to?
You must be an adolescent judging by the drivel you put in your posts.
Even if the Falklands (there are STILL no Malvinas you twat) were the most militarised have you stopped to ask yourself why?
Could it do with the fact that you arseholes invaded the islands in 1982 and the four typhoons and 1,000 regular troops plus a T45 and perhaps an astute sub which WILL be more than enough to kill the threat still bubbling below the surface.
It is not as if Putridjelli has not admitted as such only last year to the press.
So grow up and realise that your shithole of a country will never be in a position to invade the islands again. Didums: this is what we say to crying children to salve their nightmares and you had better believe that the UK military are definitely your worst nightmare if ever they are unleashed against your mainland.
we may get to 8 today!!
Any bets if the farmers will take $4.96/1 or does anyone else think they'll want 8 like everyone else?
Anyone think they bring on a change in Gov't all by themselves?
Toby, Do you want me to send you a case of toilet paper? You could live like e KING in your country soon with all of those riches.
You are a shadow of a shadow of the culture you once were. Nothing now, not even a good rock band. If the UK sanke tomorrow, only the Falklands would notice.
A penchant for barrel bottoms eh!
They cannot issue a passport without English permit.
just a joke
Nah, unlike in the USA aka the New Brazil we are no scared shitless to walk into a movie theater, school, or shopping mall. No collective diarreah here.
Talking of sinking.
The Open Budget Survey for 2012 has just been published measuring government budgetry openess and transparency.
clip2net.com/s/2LfaH
survey.internationalbudget.org/
the countries most similar to North Korea nowadays are Iran, Venezuela, and....Argentina!
You can always eat snakes,
This is white meat, and tastes similar to chicken
Cluck cluck hiss.
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“Anglo -saxon reports”
Uh,! How so?
Try reading this also from their site.
“THE ISSUES: AN UNFULFILLED RIGHT TO
EDUCATION
The Constitution of the City of Buenos Aires enshrines the right to education and establishes that the government must guarantee and finance a public, secular, and free education system that respects the principle of equal opportunities for every child older than 45 days.i Furthermore, it stipulates that budget items assigned to education cannot be reallocated.
Yet from 2002 to 2009 a growing shortage of early education facilities prevented thousands of children from beginning their education. Every year, as the demand for spaces grew, no new early education facilities were added, while existing schools struggled with their overcrowded classrooms. Between 20”
internationalbudget.org/wp-content/uploads/LP-case-study-ACIJ-summary.pdf
However, all that matters is that they are indoctrinated with Malinas propoganda.
Followed by at least Iran, China , Syria , but not in that order,
The Falklands are a paradise compared to most .
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China's actually kind of a winner, they're playing the long game, and playing it DAMN well!
A little diplomacy and soon some cruise route changes.
(The flights...probably a bit of a stretch and un-necessary)
you may well be correct..
Do you actually read these bullshit links you keep peddling ?
Where in any of these links does it specifically mention the Falklands. ? Yet you say this is proof of the Falklands being the most militarised spot in S.America.
NATO is not involved in the Falklands - the islands are defended by the UK. So, we are back to a few aircraft and one frigate on rotation with a garrison of British troops with NO capability of landing troops on S.A soil.
So what are you all so scared about.?
HaveToCorrectThisRetard
I didn't produce the survey - just posted it. Some quirks, who knows , but Argentina demonstrates a consistent trend, as do most.
In 2003 there were MORE trooops in the Islands than there are in 2013.
In 1993 there were MORE troops in the Islands thatn there were in 2003.
In 195-86 there were a LOT MORE Troops, ships and aircraft - then there were in 1993.
Please answer this - How is it that in 2013 the Islands are so “militarized”?
Before there were MORE military and FEWER civilians!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Will we ever see the day that an Argentine actually gets FACTS first?
I work with a guy in my office that bores people to death about his family, everytime you see him he says the same old things, like its the first time you have heard it. Now no-one wants to be caught alone with him and everyone naturally switches off when he starts talking about the same old rubbish, because he is irrtating, annoying and most of all very very boring!
The moral of the story:
Argentina - The guy in my office
The office - South America.
Kind regards.
www.diariouno.com.ar/pais/Las-Malvinas-son-uruguayas-20130129-0064.html
I'll give you a hint. It is bad very very very bad.
I
'm guessing the Farmers ( well anyone with anything valuable) will withhold as much Soy and Corn as they can afford and wait for the imminent HUGE devaluation.
Just my guess tho
You know the USA didn't mean this to be an educational film for Argentinians;
www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Oy9_26SbmA
Funny then the Argentines have not noticed that British forces have decreased in number from the 1980s to 1990s, 1990s to 2000s, and were more numerous when there was not a sniff of oil drilling in the South Atlantic.
Facts and logic not their strong point really is it?
Roll on the referendum.
I'm ready for the month long Vendimia you idiot, full of tourists, shopping malls full, beautiful girls out in the summer night, cafes busling till 3-4am, events everywhere, wine flowing through the streets. I don't have time for the awful economic and social situation in Europe and the USA. I just thank I wasn't born one of you.
True, but they're great for a laugh. They're like the comics section of the newspaper.
We are also very glad that you weren't born one of us.
Why are you so miserable, nostril?
Lighten up, its a beautiful world.
www.mdzol.com/nota/445773-realizan-piquete-a-un-crucero-de-bandera-inglesa/
'Timerman goes to London to speak of Falkland - Foreign Minister Héctor Timerman will take in person to Britain claim over the Falkland Islands: next week will travel to London, where it will meet with figures of 18 European countries who support the resumption of the dialogue by sovereignty, announced yesterday the Argentine Embassy in the United Kingdom.'
www.lanacion.com.ar/1550185-timerman-va-a-londres-a-hablar-de-malvinas
And why shouldn't we?
We own them!!!
We're not going to let a riff-raff of johnny-come-latelys muscle in on our turf. As briton says:- “soddy offy”you RGs.
“Argentina cries because of it's own incompetence and impotence!”
@108 - Nostril
I wouldn't count on tourists. There won't be many international ones (but you don't need them do you Tobias?), only a few Argentines who have no dollars only worthless Peso's.
Shame that.
Face it, Nostril, Argentina is incompetent and impotent because of people like YOU.
Argentina doesn't own the South Atlantic. Argentina doesn't own the Falkland Islands. Argentina doesn't own the Antarctic. And very soon Argentina won't even own Argentina.
I wonder which Province will declare indpendence 1st? I think it will be BA.
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NO, NO, it will be Mendoza, the province with everything, including cockroaches in the hospital operating theatres.
LOLs
“I just thank I wasn't born one of you”
I would agree with that, you would push our IQs down to minus figures if you were one of us.
You really should be on the stage, malvi-baby.
The first one out of town.
OK Malv. you keep telling us YOU are going to destroy us.
How exactly do you propose doing this ? In conjunction with that other liberator of the oppressed, PH, with his private stock of nuclear weapons ?
When can we expect this inevitable apocalypse to be visited upon us ?
Are you at present shoeing the 4 horses (caballos) so that they will be ready for the great day of judgement.
I will let you into a secret, most folk on here think, with justification, that you are mentally deranged. We know it is not good form to laugh at the afflicted.....but we just can't help it.
Repetition does not transform a lie into a truth.
Franklin D. Roosevelt, radio address, October 26, 1939 32nd president of US (1882 - 1945)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=q31WY0Aobro
Substitiute the word Argentina for 'uk' and your post then makes sense.
Nobody knows who is who in this merco-shit-press web site!
uuuuuuuuuuuuuuujajaja!
They can be delicious, depending what's in them.
www.strategypage.com/humor/articles/military_jokes_20073291.asp
Put some kebabs and curry stuff there and you will see how effective would be to catch British soldiers.
They are cry-babies & primadonnas.
Like the little kid who makes sure the adults are watching his tussles with other kids, then bursts into tears.
There, there, diddums.
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