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HMS Edinburgh leaves the Falklands for the last time

Saturday, February 9th 2013 - 08:41 UTC
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Known as the ‘Fortress of the Sea’, HMS Edinburgh is the largest and the last Type 42 destroyer to serve in the Royal Navy. She finished her six month tour of the South Atlantic Islands this week and is due to be decommissioned in June, but before heading north again Falkland Islands residents were given the opportunity to have a peek on board. Read full article

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  • reality check

    Save journey home, job well done. May the next ship bear your name with pride.

    Feb 09th, 2013 - 09:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Rooter

    Nice to see HMS Protector in Montevideo harbour

    Feb 09th, 2013 - 11:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Joe Bloggs

    2 Rooter

    But I thought Uruguay supported Argentina over the Falklands so therefore would not allow a UK military ship into port.

    It looks like Uruguay doesn't really support Argentina over the Falklands at all. Here's what Uruguay have sanctioned lately:
    - Free trade between the two countries
    - Chamber of Commerce visit to the Falklands
    - Cargo flights between the countries
    - Uruguayan politicians attending to observe the referendum
    - British war ships - in the role of defence of the islands- visiting Montevideo port

    It's the same as the Bloggs family's support for Arsenal Football Club. We wear the rip-off T-shirts but the club has received no actual support from us at all.

    Feb 09th, 2013 - 11:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    Is a type 23 of less capability than a type 42?

    If so replacing a type 45 with a type 42 and then a type 23 means we are de-militarising the South Atlantic, right?

    Feb 09th, 2013 - 12:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Rooter

    We are obviously trying to relieve the frosty atmosphere by bringing in an icebreaker

    Feb 09th, 2013 - 12:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • slattzzz

    @4 different capabilities just as dangerous, probably more suited to fookin off the Rg navy (dont laugh) with her Harpoon missles.
    HMS Edinburgh fair winds and following seas old girl

    Feb 09th, 2013 - 12:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Michael May

    The Type 42 Destroyer has been replaced by the larger Type 45, the first of its class was commissioned in July 2009. The Type 23 is a Frigate not a Destroyer and I believe that 13 of this class is serving with the Royal Navy. For the role in the South Atlantic, it appears that the British Admiralty believes that the Type 23 Frigate can perform the functions of the Type 42 Destroyer. The Argentines have no comparable surface ship.

    It should be noted by objective observers - a point that has been seconded by many British officers who fought in the Falklands War - that the Argentine Air Force was courageous and flew the equivilant of suicide missions and that many of the their Exocets were hits or near misses but failed to explode. (This is an entirely different discussion.) Had these missiles achieved their desired effect, the outcome may have been different. Today the Argentine air assets are degraded and the British counter-air defense assets improved.

    Feb 09th, 2013 - 01:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @4 Amazingly, the Type 23 frigate is bigger than the Type 42 destroyer. It's longer, wider, deeper and weighs more. And, as slattzzz says, it carries the Harpoon anti-ship missiles. In addition to Sea Wolf anti-air missiles and anti-submarine torpedoes. They carry the same main gun and armed helicopter. The Type 23 may also have four times as many “light” weapons.

    Feb 09th, 2013 - 01:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Xect

    The Type 23 is a far more capable ship and is several generations newer than the 42's. I have served on both, 4 years on a 23 and 2 years on a 42.

    The Type 23 was always designed to function in deep water as a submarine hunter however it has a very sophisticated air defense in the form of Sea Wolf. It is also fitted with Harpoon for ship attack and the ubiquitous 4'5 gun.

    The Type 23 was the first of the stealth class of RN ships effectively and is very difficult to detect due to how quite it is and its special surfaces.

    Essentially in a fight between a 23 and a 42, the 23 wins every time.

    The 23's are also a far nicer place to live for sailors. The 42's were extremely loud, hot confined ships and the 23's are virtually silent even in cruising stations and far, far nicer to live in.

    When we did NATO training, the Type 23 proved so good at winning we were often asked to sit out of exercises involving other nations.

    Feb 09th, 2013 - 02:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • slattzzz

    @9 Only had 42's xect 5 years on York 3 on Gloucester, can't really compare as the only time I went on a 23 was a call rould lol. Couldn't beat 22 batch 3's for accomodation imo

    Feb 09th, 2013 - 02:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Xect

    Yeah 22's were awesome bits of kit but by all accounts ferociously expensive to run.

    The 45's looks absolutely lethal. I have seen a few in pompey and they are very big for their class.

    Feb 09th, 2013 - 03:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • slattzzz

    @11 in pompey july for reunion and got a call round on Diamond if she's in

    Feb 09th, 2013 - 03:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Xect

    Sounds good! I live just outside of pompey. I left the mob and moved to my home city (Stoke) and then through a job offer returned to pompey...

    Feb 09th, 2013 - 03:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • slattzzz

    @13 i was bought up in Locksheath mum still lives there you going to type 42 reunion at excellent?

    Feb 09th, 2013 - 04:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Xect

    Nah, I appreciate them and what they've done but I've left all of that behind now.

    Feb 09th, 2013 - 04:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • toooldtodieyoung

    3 Joe Bloggs

    Joe!!! You bunch of glory chasers!!! Arsenal??? Surely you should be supporting such time honoured teams as Nottingham Forest or huh......erm, erm Notts County??? on second thoughts maybe you would be better where you are.......

    1 reality check

    It is sad to see another fine ship completing it's last tour and being de-commisioned. So, as you have already said, a job well done. The Royal Navy, even though it is too small, is THE BEST in the world and the crew should be proud of the service they have done. God speed.

    Feb 09th, 2013 - 05:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • slattzzz

    @16 correct the crew should rightly be proud

    Feb 09th, 2013 - 05:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @16 HMS Edinburgh. Fortress of the Sea. You have represented Britain admirably. You have protected. To the crew: Every day of your service has been exemplary. You have done your duty. And more. In the best traditions of the Royal Navy. Britain is proud of every one of you. God speed your voyage home!

    Feb 09th, 2013 - 06:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • slattzzz

    @18 well said matey

    Feb 09th, 2013 - 06:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    18 Brian
    “God speed your voyage home!”
    Home?

    Helloooo Turkey :-)))

    Feb 09th, 2013 - 06:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • slattzzz

    @20 well better getting a few mill in scrap than sinking alongside eh? Numpty

    Feb 09th, 2013 - 06:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    MA
    Wonder if she saw any of the ARA whilst she was down there, suspect not, been avoiding the RN for 30 years. Those that can sail that is.

    Feb 09th, 2013 - 06:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • slattzzz

    @22 Rumour has it another one had to limp home knackered

    Feb 09th, 2013 - 07:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    Christ they are a danger to international navigation, should not be allowed to put to sea without supervision. Slatzzz, isn't there some maritime organisation that posts maritime warnings? Can see it now, signal to all vessels in the South Atlantic, “Be aware ARA Rust bucket, just put to sea, all vessels advised be prepared to offer assistance.”

    Feb 09th, 2013 - 07:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • slattzzz

    @24 yep there is mate navigational warnings are signalled all the time (every 24 hours) and most of them have rgenweener attached to them

    Feb 09th, 2013 - 08:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Joe Bloggs

    16

    Hi too old. I have a bit of a soft spot for the Spire-rites I have to say.

    I hope you're having a good weekend.

    Feb 09th, 2013 - 10:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Islander1

    Marcos- Your submarines cannot dive- to dangerous as they are in such poor maintenance and most of your ocean going ships dare not leave the sight of land as due to the poor state of safety equipment onboard the officers fear lawsuits from the sailors families if there is an accident.
    None have test fired a missile system for several years - which means those missile systems are unrelaible and dangerous for the ARA let alone anyone else!
    Yes the RN does decommission ships when they need to be replaced. It then sells them for scrap or use as a target.
    Your famous navy - what does it do?

    It lets them roll over and sink in the naval base!!!!!!!!!!!

    Feb 10th, 2013 - 01:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Lord Ton

    http://falklandsnews.wordpress.com/2013/02/10/argentinas-claim-to-the-falklands-a-fantasy-says-hague/

    :-)

    Feb 10th, 2013 - 01:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    26 Days to the FALKLANDS REFERENDUM
    SELF DETERMINATION
    No need for any argi bargi it IS FACT IT IS GOING AHEAD

    Feb 10th, 2013 - 11:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • toooldtodieyoung

    26 Joe Bloggs

    Good weekend?? well it's the first one since Christmas that I am not working so Yep!!! it's a good one. Offspring No1 is in his bedroom on the X-Box as we speak... Offspring No2 is going into Nottingham with Mrs Tooold so yes it is a good weekend.

    It's raining at the moment and snow is expected by this afternoon but who cares!!! The missus has made a killer Lasagne so it's all good!!

    I hope you and your family are well..... Now, we are all looking forward to the result of the referendum in March

    Go Falklands, go!!!!!

    Feb 10th, 2013 - 11:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    “Go Falklands, go!!!!!”

    All behind you in Canada, too.

    GO Falklands!!!!

    Feb 10th, 2013 - 04:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    “Go back to England Falklands, go!!!!!”

    All behind your return to England in Argentina, too.

    Malvinas doesn't have to “go” anywhere, still a few kilometers off our beautiful mainland.

    Feb 10th, 2013 - 06:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • bob_99

    too much show-off from a country that is 2 trillon in DEBT!

    Feb 10th, 2013 - 06:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    Ah. so the Mythical Malvinas is located in the River Plate. What is it like Brigadoon? only appears when there is a full moon, mist on the river and Mars is in conjunction with Venus?

    Feb 10th, 2013 - 06:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Joe Bloggs

    29, 30, 31
    THANKS

    32
    NO THANKS. WE'RE FINE WHERE WE ARE.

    Feb 10th, 2013 - 06:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • bob_99

    can @35 upgrade the Islands internet....the Malvina House looks so poor
    189 years and nothing to show off

    Feb 10th, 2013 - 06:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GeoffWard2

    But would even a Type 23 frigate dare to go up against the Flagship of the Argentinian fleet?

    Feb 10th, 2013 - 07:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    Only to serve a summons.

    Feb 10th, 2013 - 07:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    As the sun goes down, the nasty gutter rats come out to condemn the brits,

    To scare to face us,
    To scared to fight us,
    To scared to back it up,

    Nope these tough little rodents just come out at dusk and spread their liar and dehisces all over the place,
    And Soddy offy at day break.
    Either back it up
    Or

    Go home insulting cowards
    .

    Feb 10th, 2013 - 07:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    Sussie is jealous because her beloved Comodora Rivadavia has nothing as good as this. But it does have a third rate lady's hairdressers.

    Feb 10th, 2013 - 07:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @32 What a pity you spoil it by being there!
    @34 No, the “Malvinas” are between Oz and Neverland. Strangely, I remember Dorothy and Wendy. Even Tinker Bell. I don't remember anything called “Cristina”.

    Feb 10th, 2013 - 07:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Joe Bloggs

    36

    How do you remember all of your passwords Sussie? Especially considering how mentally retarded you are.

    Feb 10th, 2013 - 07:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • slatz

    @42 joe bloggs aka troy tempest aka yankee boy aka kelper about argie the poet engineer abroad uk owns argentina we have your fragata
    simon68zhivago yensere-ly skare isolde condorito chicureo and on and on and on.....nice web site to drop more crap!

    Feb 10th, 2013 - 09:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • toooldtodieyoung

    42 Joe Bloggs

    I think that sussieUS has blown a gasket..... her post at 43 has me puzzled......

    43 slatz

    Sussie dear, if you are going to insult someone you have to use an insult or two you know??? you see what I'm saying here?

    It's no use talking if no one can understand you, although I know that in your case, no one will ever be able to understand you.

    Feb 10th, 2013 - 09:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ann_25

    why they keep talking about SussieUS?
    Because the UK team don't give a shit about the islands or the UK navy

    Feb 10th, 2013 - 09:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • toooldtodieyoung

    45 slatz & 46 ann_25

    “It's no use talking if no one can understand you”

    Case in point....... well done SussieUS!! Couldn't have put it better myself.

    Feb 10th, 2013 - 10:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Xect

    It's funny because the fakers makes no sense in exactly the same way which gives away the persons single identity.

    It's also funny because he goes to the trouble of registering many user accounts only to give himself away in one sentence.

    Anyway, I hope there is another HMS Edinburgh soon!

    Feb 10th, 2013 - 10:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    if they have no chance now,
    they will never have , when the royal navy gets back up to strenth.

    Feb 11th, 2013 - 12:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • jon and johnie

    is very funny the UK Team place many comments under many screen names to make the argentinian feel “acorralados”.
    Most argentinians don't give a shit about the UK!

    Feb 11th, 2013 - 12:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    @48 Xect
    “ funny because he goes to the trouble of registering many user accounts only to give himself away in one sentence. ”

    It makes one think that the people attracted to trolling, both privately and professionally (La Campora), are of the 'attention-whore' variety.

    They seem to say anything to elicit a response. I thought that because of their fee-schedule, no response=no pay.

    However, unless they employ types like Sussie to throw up flak to put legitimate discussion into disarray, making refuting the Argie message too difficult and time-intensive, I would say that he is an Independent looking for attention.

    PH is simply too emotionally damaged to behave in any normal manner, but he does follow the La Campora-Peronist-Nacionalista, party-line.

    Feb 11th, 2013 - 01:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • jon and johnie

    @ 51 troy tempest
    it seems SussieUS is the winner....

    Feb 11th, 2013 - 01:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Cristina Lopez

    @52
    we all know that!

    Feb 11th, 2013 - 02:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • andrea rodriguez

    that troy tempest is an idiot!

    Feb 11th, 2013 - 02:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • jorge_68

    troy tempest is a wimp!

    Feb 11th, 2013 - 03:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • gay from London

    Troy Tempest is MINE!

    Feb 11th, 2013 - 05:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain P0ppy

    one smelly fishing boat? is that all you got little pipers ? USA has hundreds of those, by the way I'm from U-S-A hell yeah!!!

    Feb 12th, 2013 - 12:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • jonas_Bs.As.

    @ captain poppy YOU ARE NOT FROM THE USA!

    Feb 12th, 2013 - 04:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • slattzzz

    Sussie if you like using other peoples name at least talk some sense you halfwit, everyone knows it's by the complete and utter crap you spout you so why bother? I've reported you by the way.

    Feb 12th, 2013 - 06:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anbar

    “”Malvinas doesn't have to “go” anywhere, still a few kilometers off our beautiful mainland.“””

    you mean off the stolen Patagonian coastline? within which are buried the tens of thousands of indigenous people that Argentina systematically butchered during the rabid colonial expansion of Argentina?

    (I guess they dont teach you that bit in CFK land)

    Still waiting for some proof from any Argentinean about these nukes in the Falklands.... still not holding my breath. ;-)

    Feb 12th, 2013 - 01:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    @37
    Is that the LIBERTAD?
    @57
    Keep up Jonus ( you plonker ) Captain P0ppy ( note with a “ 0” ) Zero is an ARGENTINIAN TROLL

    Feb 12th, 2013 - 08:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • HH_Bb

    @58
    so what, i keep posting anyway. you have the choice to ignore the comments you don't like. fair enough.

    Feb 12th, 2013 - 11:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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