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Falkland Islands’ referendum: for Canada results are ‘very clear’ but for EC it was an ‘internal affair’
The Canadian government said on Wednesday that the results of the Falkland Islands referendum are “very clear” and “only” the people of the Islands are entitled to decide on their future. However the European Commission refused to get involved in the discussion arguing it is an “internal affair” of an EU member. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesThanks to our Canadian friends for their support of democracy and freedom. The EU is largely composed of Spaniards French Italians and Germans who have from time to time chosen to live under some of the worst Dictators in history, just like the Argentineans. So its not surprising that there is any support from them. One of the many reasons why the majority of British people want an new relationship with the EU where it is just a Common Market and it doesn't run our country.
Mar 14th, 2013 - 09:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0Good for you, Canada.
Mar 14th, 2013 - 09:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0So if the islands are invaded, where would the EU stand then with, for example, it's military policies?
Mar 14th, 2013 - 09:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0The same place it usually stands? Nowhere.
Mar 14th, 2013 - 09:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0Well, unless France & Germany want to do anything, nobody else really ever gets a say in things after all.
@3 Well the EU recognized the Falklands as a overseas territory therefore recognizing the UK's sovereignty over the islands - The EU's current position is a breach of the Lisbon treaty as far as am concerned, if its not willing to stand up for the sovereignty of one of its founding members, then its time we left the EU completely - Though its not exactly supporting Argentina's claims either.
Mar 14th, 2013 - 09:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0Canada is making this American want to move to Canada. If only it weren't so damn cold, but Vancouver's bearable I suppose.....and it least the cold scares away certain immigrants I don't want around anyway.
Mar 14th, 2013 - 09:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0@5 The UN and the EU recognise UK administration of the Islands and the existence of a sovereignty dispute.
Mar 14th, 2013 - 09:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0at* least ^
Mar 14th, 2013 - 09:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0They seriously need to add an edit option
#6 Montreal is no colder than NYC of Boston and just as hot in the summer. Why is the EU not taking a position. All this time I had the impression the the EU unanimously support the UK and “only” the USA was fence sitting?
Mar 14th, 2013 - 10:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0PS
Serious question not a rhetorical question. I prefer a response from Brit or Islander and not a jingoist blogger.
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@9 The UN and the EU recognise UK administration of the Islands and the existence of a sovereignty dispute. It is the current UN consensus on the situation of the Falkland Islands and both the US and EU positions are consistent with it. In my opinion, of course. Feel free to test this hypothesis by researching the UN and EU websites.
Mar 14th, 2013 - 10:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0@10
Mar 14th, 2013 - 10:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0But let us also note in passing that the islands were included as an EU Associate Territory under the Treaty of Lisbon, despite Argentine protests all down the line.
Otherwise, the position enunicated by the spokesman of the Commission is entirely logical and consistent with the Commission's role in the EU. What would have been really surprising would be if they'd said anything else.
Thanks to Canada once more who have proven themselves thousands of times to be a true ally of the UK.
Mar 14th, 2013 - 10:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0As for the EU, I think the response is reasonable personally. The EU recognizes British sovereignty of the Islands in the Lisborn treaty. There is nothing more to be said anyway, the UK/Falkland's people have killed any question for most as we seeing reported in many countries press articles.
The EU recognises a sovereignty dispute? Where is this stated? Anyone anyone Bueller Bueller...
Mar 14th, 2013 - 11:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://ec.europa.eu/europeaid/where/octs_and_greenland/countries/falkland-islands_en.htm
Once again Canada proving to be a true believer in democracy, Uk thanks you.
Mar 14th, 2013 - 11:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0SELF-DETERMINATION....Bringing the world together :)))
“But for the European Commission the referendum’s decision to remain as a British Overseas Territory was described as an ‘internal affair’ of an EU member and refused to take a stand on the issue.”
Mar 14th, 2013 - 11:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0Since when have the EU not involved themselves in “internal affairs” of a member state when it suits them? The EU expressing solidarity for the UK is something that will not happen since the UK does not kowtow to all the requirements of the unelected commissioners (only most of them). The sooner we leave the better.
#10 thanks Dover......now onto a simpler question from someone not as polically astute as others here. Why doesn't the UK and the Falklander's bring the matter up in the GA of the UN to get rid of the sovereignty issue once and for all?
Mar 14th, 2013 - 12:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@12 The EU recognises a special relationship, not sovereignty. Where in the Treaty of Lisbon or anywhere else does it say that it does recognise sovereignty? The EU is careful in every practical respect to match the UN position on the situation regarding NSGT. This includes the UK but of course the UK acting according to its reserved rights to do so goes one step beyond this, having no doubts about its sovereignty over the Falkland Islands. The UK position remains as inconsistent as ever as it has practically given sovereignty to the Falkland Island electorate.
Mar 14th, 2013 - 12:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Indeed, Canada is the most civilised country in the Americas.
Mar 14th, 2013 - 12:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Philippe
Good work Canada. Tbh its nothing to do with the EU, I never expected them to say anything.
Mar 14th, 2013 - 12:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@16 Because a fair number of Countries would say it was time the remnants of the British Empire were finally removed from the face of the earth and ask us to decolonise the Islands. That may not be the answer we are looking for.
Mar 14th, 2013 - 12:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@16
Mar 14th, 2013 - 12:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What sovereignty issue?
A mad harpy dictator from a third world state makes up history to bolster her flagging public opinion due to incompetence.
You see Mugabe trying the same stunt, its a characteristic of looney third world corrupt bankrupt states..
Does it hurt Britain in any way? Not at all, as long as the Argies don't invade again, we are spared the only potential future problem which would be to minimise the death toll, it is britains only concern in this matter.
The islanders themselves have other concerns, fishing, tourism, harrassment and bullying. THEIR referendum was to show the world THEIR thoughts. Britian will try to assist them in minimising the impact of the third world facists next door.
However, relatively soon they will be able to do it for themselves.
@15 I'm with 11 and 12 on this. If it's an “internal affair”, the EC has effectively dismissed argieland's ludicrous claims. It should not be forgotten that the EC (the Commission) views the British Antarctic Territory as the EU's effective claim to part of Antarctica. And the Falkland Islands, South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands are the three keys to Antarctica. Despite the suggestions that the Falkland Islands are no longer strategically significant, it should be remembered that the Islands “guard” one of the only two direct connections between the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans. The other being the Panama Canal. Sea power may not be what it once was, but it is still significant. Especially with the introduction of submarine-launched cruise and ballistic missiles. The only other route is under the Arctic ice. Not everything can be done by aircraft!
Mar 14th, 2013 - 12:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“EC spokesperson Olivier Bailly during the daily news conference recalled that it is not the job of the European Executive to express opinion on issues refereed to the internal organization of an EU state member.”
Mar 14th, 2013 - 01:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This makes me laugh! They've interfered in Italy and Greece by engineering the removal of an elected head of government for whispering the R word (referendum) and replaced them with their own apparatchiks. They're now “approving” national budgets within the Eurozone, and they've decided to interfere with the pay structures of internal companies, knowing full well the democratic issues that holds for the future, and knowing full well the damage that could inflict on one member state, namely the UK.
The fact is, the UK is very Eurosceptic. The politicians are not, but the people are. Each poll shows more people who want out. Most of us a pretty annoyed that the Scots get a referendum on the UK, but we are not allowed one on something very harmful to our future prospects.
To see the EU pass this off as an internal matter is, frankly, better than expected. They only love the money we pump in. They don't like the fact we question how they use it, or why it's so much.
A British MEP has just tweeted about how MEPs within one of the committees are not bothering to discuss what they should be talking about, and instead wondering how they can ban eurosceptic parties. This in itself says it all.
To make a relevant comparison, Cristina herself would be proud of how the EU operates given the similarities to her own administration. And that's why we want out!
Canada's position on Falkland Islands sovereignty follows on positions made clear from recent years at OAS meetings, but the EU position seems rather odd, given that several EU members besides UK have OCTs, including Denmark, France, Netherlands and Spain. Just because it is noted that “Argentina asserts claim”to Falklands shouldn't make the Falkland Islands OCT materially different from OCTs from the several other EU members with OCTs:
Mar 14th, 2013 - 01:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/72/EU_OCT_and_OMR_map_en.png
Interesting that EU legislation listing OCTs includes Falkland Islands - and calls them just “Falkland” + other language for “Islands” in virtually ALL of the EU languages except French (Malouines) and even in Spanish, they are labelled as ” Islas Malvinas (Falkand)”:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/72/EU_OCT_and_OMR_map_en.png
Thanks Canada, your Justin Bieber sins are forgiven!
Mar 14th, 2013 - 01:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No, well done Canada for withstand Argentine economic threats.
Canada the beautiful.
Mar 14th, 2013 - 02:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We know who are friends are in the UK. Swapping my next trips to states with Canada until the US get a president back with a spine and some morals!
Mar 14th, 2013 - 02:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@17
Mar 14th, 2013 - 02:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0By that logic, the EU hasn't recognised anybody's sovereignity over anything. It has also accepted the presence in our skies of flying saucers and alien spaceships, since it hasn't said it hasn't.
Malvinistas might also care to note that recognizing the existence of a dispute, and recognizing the validity of a dispute, are not the same thing at all.
Well well well, there it goes your referendum down the toilet...
Mar 14th, 2013 - 02:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Don't be silly! they are flushed with success
Mar 14th, 2013 - 02:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0not according to the EU...keep trying though.
Mar 14th, 2013 - 02:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Better yet, give the isle of Wight to the Argies and call it even...
Why what did the EU say, my guess is it was political speak for, no comment, it's a matter for the member state, something along those usual lines.
Mar 14th, 2013 - 02:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0First of all, well done Canada an ally That can be counted on to do the right thing. The Eu stance is perfectly correct, it is a British internal affair, end of story. Times are changing again and every political block on the planet is trying to put down a flag onto any rock in the ocean. The EU just regard these islands and the various EU country claims on Antarctica as another piece of the EU.
Mar 14th, 2013 - 02:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0La isla de Wight es Argentina!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mar 14th, 2013 - 02:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The EU couldn't defend democracy in case someone wanted to introduce it in to the workings of the European Union itself
Mar 14th, 2013 - 03:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well since the Uk is part of it (EU), you must know something we don't right?
Mar 14th, 2013 - 03:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0VOTE UKIP!!!! LMAO
@28 A year a go an EU Ambassador said this:
Mar 14th, 2013 - 04:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“There is certain confusion regarding the Lisbon treaty since the fact that the Falklands are included is “merely descriptive”. Member states enumerate their overseas territories and in this case “it’s an article from previous treaties”.
“This does not imply acknowledgement of UK sovereignty over the Falklands/Malvinas by EU members. This must be defined bilaterally between the UK and Argentina. The fact today is that the Islands are under British jurisdiction and this must be discussed with Argentina.”
http://en.mercopress.com/2012/01/31/malvinas-dispute-a-bilateral-issue-which-is-not-included-in-the-eu-agenda
So, he may have been/be wrong, he may be off message or he may be right. You can choose for yourself but it looks to me very much like an expression of the current UN consensus in the absence of an EU specific policy. And there is no hope of anything different while Spain and UK disagree over Gibraltar.
An Internal Affair? In otherwords, it recognizes that the UK and the FI are part of the same unit. AR is not part of it.
Mar 14th, 2013 - 04:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Dispute? In the real world, not the farce that is international politics, we deal with disputes all the time. Someone wants workspace that others have maintained, invested and continue to use well and productively even when there is gaslighting, “raids” and other aggressive and passive aggressive actions against the holder of the deed. They want someone else's subordinates, who, incidentally don't want to work with them because they won't pay them enough and/or are jerks. They want someone else's budgets due to their own mismanagement.
In such cases, the answer is well... ”yes there is a dispute that isn't going to go away because we can't fire you (yet, anyway) so we have to 'recognize it,' but the answer is 'no' and if you insist we can have a lame-arsed 'conflict resolution' specialist come in and hold your hand while you throw a tantrum but the answer is still going to be 'no' because it's not your office, it's not your people and it's not your money. Now leave me alone and get back to work.”
We all vote for UKIP in EU elections anyway. Two fingers to the EU, big waste of British money. Hopefully we will be more detached sometime soon.
Mar 14th, 2013 - 04:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@39 too late buddy. Romanian and Bulgarian hordes will be entering your country in less than a year..TIC TAC TIC TAC
Mar 14th, 2013 - 04:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Falklands=British
Wight= Argentina
“”“@16 Because a fair number of Countries would say it was time the remnants of the British Empire were finally removed from the face of the earth and ask us to decolonise the Islands. That may not be the answer we are looking for.”“”
Mar 14th, 2013 - 04:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0whats this “we”?
You aint British sunshine. lol stoopid sock-puppet.
Captain Poppy: DoverOverDover sint British, s/hes an Argentine sock-puppet who has been caught on at least 3 occasions. Anything & everything from this “person” should be taken with a monumental grain of salt... or better still, plainly ignored.
The truth of the EU position is that a number of the larger states back the UK all the way, but the EU doesnt want to ruffle any feathers whilst it is embarked on a crusade to drum-up new business in south america. As such it took the decisions to tread lightly and avoid public commentary wherever it could.
Unlike the “Good old US of A” though Britain could also probably rely on at least two of them militarily also.
The US of A, of course, would still be struggling to get the fence post out of its Presidents arse.
DoverOverDovers claims about the EU & UN mirroring each other and not supporting the UK, “everybody in the world” seeking the end of Britians Empire... thats all sock-puppetry nonsense. Ignore it.
Bear in mind that this is the same person who recently supposed the Pope would ahve been a good arbitrator over the Falklands issue....
he obviously *forgot* that unlike his homeland the UK is not catholic, and we have a history of not trusting the Papacy as far as we can spit them.
Look up a fellow called Henry for a good example of what happens when Popes mess about in Britain.
Of course if DoverOverDover had actually been british s/he would never in a million years have made such a stoopid-ass comment.... but as good little catholic latino-muncher it seemed sensible.
(Obviously dont let the fact that I find the USA an unrepentent lying-ass-dog of a nation colour your opinion of anything I write in any way )
So Henry beheaded his wives because of the Pope. I suspect that La junta also had something to do with it...
Mar 14th, 2013 - 04:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0China or Canada ? I choose China...
Mar 14th, 2013 - 05:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You choose China?
Mar 14th, 2013 - 06:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We you really should do some research on Chinese population projections and especially its dependency ratio in the next few decades. While you are at it, try finding real information on the amount of debt being carried by each tier of of government.
Hipolyte chooses China! PMSL I bet you are one of the people that chose JAPAN in the 80s too! Soviet Union in the 70s perhaps?
I choose Canada!
I choose sheeps
Mar 14th, 2013 - 06:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@41 I shan't let the esteem I hold you in be coloured in any way whatsoever.
Mar 14th, 2013 - 06:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The fact that there was a vote at all shows that as far as the UK is concerned, ultimate sovereignty of the Islands lies wih the Islanders.
Mar 14th, 2013 - 06:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The EU has stated that it will not comment on the vote by Falklanders on their status, because it is an internal affair: That means an affair that only concerns the British.
I'll write that again for those to thick to understand.
THE EU SAY THAT THE STATUS OF THE FALKLANDS IS FOR THE BRITISH ONLY TO DECIDE.
Since Argentina has no say in the Falklanders either keeping their current status of changing it, why would the EU mention them?
INTERNAL AFFAIR - an excellent comment from the EU.
#41 don't you worry your fragile little head (obviously you would not have brought up my opinion otherwise), there is very little you can say to impress me or change my opinion of the likes on one such as you.
Mar 14th, 2013 - 07:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As for where this one resides and where that ones resides, most all here are liars safe for a trusted few.
God save the EU!!!! Referendum is worthless even for toilet paper.
Mar 14th, 2013 - 07:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@Doveoverdover, Have you never thought of going to join that land of European immigrants Argentina? your already there you prick
Mar 14th, 2013 - 07:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 049... Ya righty Iam sure you truly believe that, why are you trolling on this site 24-7 if your not worried.
Mar 14th, 2013 - 07:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Andy what's up buddy? Maybe you can recommend him emigrating to Malvinas, full of european transplants, I read...
Mar 14th, 2013 - 07:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0no such place as the Malvinas, but if you want a 97 percent white European country to emigrate to try Argentina, what happened to all the natives????
Mar 14th, 2013 - 07:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0maybe the evidence is on the 100 peso note glorifying the war of the desert
Mr. McDod
Mar 14th, 2013 - 07:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I assume that,after your NO side lost and my YES side won in this failed English Public Relations Stunt of a “Referendum”, you will quitely dissapear into the Dover fog.
I look forward to read your sharp comments again, as soon as the FCO fucks up again......
We know it will be soon. ;-)
@53 Well well well here we go again. Just a small sample of what peace loving Brits did in America
Mar 14th, 2013 - 08:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pontiac%27s_War
Infested blankets with small-pox WTF. Nevermind slavery, colonialism, land stealing (favourite sport) etc...
did Argentina win??? I missed that, have they moved the Falkland Islands off to make way for their RG colonists like they had planned to in 1982????
Mar 14th, 2013 - 08:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Does the Rg flag fly over Stanley tonight...Christ I missed all this, what a truly great victory. all I heard was CFK ranting , crying and dismissing the referendum.
WTF Infested blankets with small-pox...The low of the lowest even by your standards...
Mar 14th, 2013 - 08:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0THAN YOU CANADA
Mar 14th, 2013 - 08:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0fxck off EU Cowards
you just cant be trusted.
Do you realize that you belong to the EU as well?
Mar 14th, 2013 - 08:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/907017.stm
Mar 14th, 2013 - 08:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Jajaja love it, in our game of table tennis posting try this one , and this one isn't from 250 years ago.
30,000 men women and children and your own people, low even by the Rgs standards
copycat and keep in mind I am not even posting in my native language...Maybe this one suits you better.. just 100 years old
Mar 14th, 2013 - 08:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.boer.co.za/boerwar/hellkamp.htm
http://www.gertzresslerhigh.org/ourpages/auto/2009/1/28/37160780/Argentina.pdf
Mar 14th, 2013 - 08:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Wow 100 years ago good going, still think murdering 30,000 men women and children 30 years ago trumps our past wars, albeit the Boer war was against a white implanted population, similar to Argentinas. Anyhow read one of the many article on Argentinas liking for genocide...quite good for a county that didn't even exist in1833!!! Made up for lost time ehhh???
Do you realize that you belong to the EU as well?
Mar 14th, 2013 - 08:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0not for long,
What's the EU got to do with the Falklands??? It's stated it's an internal affair for The UK.
Mar 14th, 2013 - 08:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0oops sorry forgot the whole world support Argentina jajajajaj
@62 What about 100000 - 250000 iraquis in your adventure across the middle east with your american butt buddy. Is that any better, just 5 years ago. Geezzzzzz man you HAVE killed people. You guys must be proud of it.
Mar 14th, 2013 - 08:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The same Canada which has BARRED a British MP (George Galloway) from entering due to his views on the Israeli/Palestine conflict.
Mar 14th, 2013 - 08:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Seriously Canada, cut the apron strings, its getting embarrassing.
Think you better check your facts the UK government didnt murder 250 thousand iraqis. seem to remember that was a UN backed military campaign with many nations . remember kuwait was invaded by the dictator Mr Hussein and the goodies gave them back their country. Although I think the main purpose was to secure the oil supply.
Mar 14th, 2013 - 09:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0invading other countries is bad, remember 30 years ago when Rgs attempted it???
Talking about the second invasion dummy not the first one, UN backed hahahahahahahahahahahaha, BTW did you find Saddam´s chemichal arsenal or you still looking for it. You people make me sick, no wonder the whole of Europe, Latin America and more despise you.
Mar 14th, 2013 - 09:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Blair must have a special place in your heart LOL
The chemical arsenal that he unleashed on his own people a couple,of years before ???? Do some research dummy.
Mar 14th, 2013 - 09:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0now stop crying, your defending an impotant humiliated country called Argentina that argues with everyone and has no friends in the world except pariah states!!! Jajajaja none of your friends will lend you money, no countries will invest in your broken country, that you stole from the original inhabitants. the whole of Argentina is based on a stolen land and implanted white European population that murdered the native population.
Jajaja
@54 Sr Think.
Mar 14th, 2013 - 09:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I congratulate you for being on the winning side for once. The next high spot for me will be reading the full report of the ad hoc RIOM on their ad hoc website or here on Mercopress. I can't wait to find out who was paying them their allowances.
Man you are a complete nutcase, even americans admit the whole Iraq thing was a farse. By the way when Saddam used those weapons back in 1981, guess who was in Bagdad visiting him. Rumsfeld.
Mar 14th, 2013 - 09:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Check your facts DUMMY BOY.
Back to Germany... Hans, Saxons don´t belong to Britain, go and ask the Irish if you don´t believe me...
“Minister John Baird: “only the people of the Falklands are entitled to decide on their future” ”
Mar 14th, 2013 - 09:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thank you Canada.
Shame on you Obama!! Shame on you!!!
Canada is showing you the way!!
So much for you being the “Saviour of human rights”
hahah had to google the chemical weapons bit didn't you, best check your facts before blindly posting tripe. quick google check, oh Christ Salam did have chemical weapons...epic fail
Mar 14th, 2013 - 09:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Did Argentina around 200 years ago systematically murder the indigenous population of the lands stolen to become Argentina??? Just answer the question
@73 You sir, are a public danger and a threat to any normal human being. You must be locked up and the key thrown away
Mar 14th, 2013 - 09:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://blog.usni.org/2012/07/20/iraq-chemical-weapons-moved-to-syria-before-2003-invasion
http://blog.usni.org/2012/07/20/iraq-chemical-weapons-moved-to-syria-before-2003-invasion
(70) Mr. McDod
Mar 14th, 2013 - 09:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The YES vote, (as you and I well knew) was an easy try for Argentina indeed as you can se by the official comments from the UN, USA and EU...
About financing of RIOM-MIOR....
If it was CANADEM they are keeping it pretty secret.....
http://www.canadem.ca/home/en/component/search/?searchword=falkland+islands&ordering=newest&searchphrase=all
Haha just like your ancestors did to the native inhabitants, oh no they didn't lock them up they murdered them.
Mar 14th, 2013 - 09:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0or someone who didn't know 30 mins ago that Sadam had chemical weapons and used them, you sure know a lot now, the wonders of google, we bow down to your recently acquired knowledge on chemical weapons.
(70) Mr. McDod
Mar 14th, 2013 - 10:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just some gossip....... if you where “Thinking” about investing some of our money on South Atlantic Dairy Farms…….
A little bird tweeted to me...... that one of RIOM-MIOR Independent Observers, Mr. Wyatt Creech from New Zealand has been in contact with the Luxton dynasty in them Islands about............….
Maybe Mrs. Bloggs milk will, one day, be fresher than Mrs. McDod ......
@77 Sr Think,
Mar 14th, 2013 - 10:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This one is it?
http://www.nbr.co.nz/tags/wyatt-creech
There's a Luxton in there too. What a coincidence.
@77
Mar 14th, 2013 - 10:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I guess you must have heard this tweet when you were over consulting the “Electoral Role” by astral projection?
the envy of the islands,
Mar 14th, 2013 - 10:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0how CFK must be frustrated to want what she can never have.
For the European Commission “is an internal affair of the” British “.”. And, how will that is “internal” which is a query made by British to other 1600 British to know if they wish to remain British.
Mar 14th, 2013 - 11:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0With respect to Canada few can it import the legal historical and geographical over the Malvinas, a country whose queen is the queen of England and her anthem God save the queen.
Think / DoD
Mar 14th, 2013 - 11:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why do you keep doing this to yourself? The game is up, everyone knows. Having conversations with yourself makes you look unhinged and invalidates anything you might otherwise have said that is vaguely pertinent. Just quietly kill off one and stick with the other, after a while people will forget and move on.
they do say, if you look in the mirror long enough, you can see the wear and tear of the plastics..lol.
Mar 15th, 2013 - 12:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0It amazes me the falsehoods tha people spout on here.
Mar 15th, 2013 - 04:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0According to Doveoverdover, the EU doesn't recognise UK sovereignty because this matches the UN position. The UN recognises UK sovereignty but also recognises that there is a dispute. Spanish Sahara is a great case in point.
According to Pesky Army up to 250,000 Iraquis have been killed by the UK and the US. 100,000 more than the commonly held civilian death toll.
It's a pity he isn't as upset about the estimated 120,000 Venezuelans murdered during Hugo Chavez's 14 year reign. Indeed wile Iraq managed 4,644 civilian deaths from violence in 2009, according to Iraq Body Count; in Venezuela that year, the number of murders climbed above 16,000.
And finally José who thinks the Queen of England is the Canadian Head of State.
The things people believe!
@84
Mar 15th, 2013 - 06:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0The UN recognises UK Sovereignty over the Islands.
Argentina and its Allies are members of the UN
Therefore Argentina and its Allies recognise UK sovereignity over the Islands.
The things people say!
(78) Mr. McDod
Mar 15th, 2013 - 09:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0“There's a Luxton in there too.” you say.
Second cousin, i'm told........
@86 Sr Think, I fear the “independent” credentials of the RIOM that is meant to underwrite your Referendum victory are looking increasingly suspect. For your sake I hope the Cub reporter isn't reading this.
Mar 15th, 2013 - 09:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0Canadians must give their land back to the native americans just the same as us.
Mar 15th, 2013 - 10:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0(87) Mr. McDod
Mar 15th, 2013 - 10:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0Ain't the typical Anglo-European approach to corruption that making tons of money is acceptable, as long as it happens after you leave office?
( Cue: Tony Bliar)
The “Referendum” is over.....
We won!
Let the “Milk” and Honey flow ;-)
@81. “God Save the Queen” is the Canadian National Anthem?
Mar 15th, 2013 - 12:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Did you learn that in school right next to how the Falklands are Argentine.? It explains a lot, really. Idiot.
@90 Gracie do you believe Canadians ought to give back their land to the natives?
Mar 15th, 2013 - 12:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0if ya all went back to where ya all originated from,
Mar 15th, 2013 - 01:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0two things would happen
1, Africa would be over crowded
2, the rest of the world would be empty..lol
@91 Well since Canadian-First Nation relations, while not perfect, were and are considerably better than Argentina's you can ask them directly. Your Selknam Genocide and Conquest of the Desert has made it rather easy for you fascists doesn't it?
Mar 15th, 2013 - 02:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Gracie
Mar 15th, 2013 - 03:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Gracie do you believe Canadians ought to give back their land to the natives?
Yes or no? Straight answer please.
94... Steady rumpole... I wouldn't think any country today would advocate giving back stolen lands to native inhabitants most country's a lot of countrys are founded by invasion and subdugation.
Mar 15th, 2013 - 05:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think the main point people are trying to make is the Argentina is accusing the UK of implanting a population on islands that Argentina never owned, when ..now here is the bit you need to think about, Argentina implanted its own white European population to an inhabited country, they then systematically killed the natives.
nobody denies that native people's around the world have in history been conquered and lands stolen, it's the hypocritical stance of Argentina accusing the UK of colonialism when Argentina wants to colonise the Falklands.
now frantically google the points raised and try to divert the discussion
if its the truth, then they have no interest,
Mar 15th, 2013 - 07:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0but if is a lie and argentina owns the lot,
then they will listen.
Think, you cannot realistically expect any nation- not even the UN - to make a formal decision on its/their attitude to the Falklands question overnight.
Mar 15th, 2013 - 09:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nobody here is expecting it -But, lets see who is voting which way- pro-against or neutral by say the end of 2013 or mid 2014?
I would not like to predict the actual figures - but one thing I do predict - a continual weakening of support for Argentina as has already started over the last 6-12 months .
Now I am talking about real support OK - Countries that actually INDIVIDUALLY confirm their support for the Arg Sovereignty Claim.
NOT just a list of nations that support the idea of talking and negotiating to resolve - that as you know very very well is NOT actual recognition in anyway of Arg Sovereignty Claims.
All it does is recognise that there is a dispute - which there is.
In that case,
Mar 15th, 2013 - 09:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Argentine support stands at precisely [ zero]
Is this correct..
Thank you Canada, support you can rely on. One thing you can say about the Canadians they are strong willed and wont be influenced by other powers. A win for democracy and self determination.
Mar 16th, 2013 - 04:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And the next bit of the UK to want to spin off is.....
Mar 17th, 2013 - 04:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/political-news/former-libdem-leader-its-shetlands-oil-alex.20523802
(100) Mr. McDod
Mar 17th, 2013 - 04:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That will teach the English FCO a thing or two about the advantages of “Self Determination for Everybody”.....
Next.... The Kingdom of Caithness. (under Margrethe II)
Then.... The Islamic Republic of Bradford.
Who knows later................
@101 Sr Think
Mar 17th, 2013 - 06:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-21769805
The Grand Duchy of Lancaster looks favourite. You can see the Isle of Man on a fine day and there's Blackpool too (like Stanley but with lights).
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-21769805
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