“Britain, Argentina need to find a political solution”, says Gulf News from UAE
The following editorial on the Falkland Islands issue was published by the United Arab Emirates Gulf News.
The referendum by the 2,500 inhabitants of the British-administered Falkland Islands has not contributed to finding a political solution to the dispute between Britain and Argentina that has run for centuries.
The British government needs to indicate to its obstreperous colonialist that they do not have a blank cheque on British policy, but it also needs to make clear to the Argentines that there has been nothing illegal in the British presence in the Falklands since 1690.
But to respond to an approach to find a political solution, the Argentines will need to reduce their nationalistic rhetoric which their current president may find hard to do.
The current standoff is untenable in the long term and Britain is wrong to allow the minute population of 2,500 to dominate its foreign policy in the South Atlantic and Latin America.
It has better things to do than defend 2,500 people, and it should remember that ever since the late 1700s, Britain has enjoyed a close relationship with Argentina, leading to more than 100,000 Argentines of British descent living happily in Argentina.
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A solution based on human rights seem a better option :-)
(Think, frantically taking notes in the “La Campora” bunker buried some 300 meters down the Giant Volcanic Caldera at Piedra Parada, Chubut )
I must remember following line for future use....:
“The obstreperous colonialist do not have a blank cheque on English policy”
Chuckle chuckle
“but it also needs to make clear to the Argentines that there has been nothing illegal in the British presence in the Falklands since 1690.”
Snigger Snigger.
Would you like to get involved in any political discussion giving that neighbour say in your future?
England is wrong in believing that a minute electorate of 1.500 English citizens can be used as an excuse to expropriate Argentinean resources in the South Atlantic.
Does this misrepresentation of what you read and the truth happen naturally or do you have to have special training?
What ARGENTINIAN resources would that be ?
The ones that the Argentinians are trying to STEAL from the rightful owners ?
One person posting as multiple idiots!
Say after me............
The resources do NOT belong to Argentina....................
The resources do NOT belong to Argentina.....................
The resources do NOT belong to Argentina..................
etc etc etc ad infidum
@13 Whereas you have the distinction of being a truly unique idiot.
We non-Argentinians are very clear who the rightful owners of the resources are...the licences were granted by the FIG and all relevant taxes and duties will be payable to them.
What they will do with these returns is entirely up to them.
@14
Isolde, even if Think were to repeat those lines “ad infinitum2 it would take years to undo the learnings of schoolboy Think being forced to chant ”Las malvinas son Argentine”.
Are you proposing that ownership depends on population density?
Maybe Argentina should give up half of its land to the UK seeing as its population density is almost 20 times less....Or Patagonians. They shouldnt have a say in how they run their province should they..?
I think its reasonable that if a peaceful community has developed, that has endured the hardships of living in a very testing environment and largely in isolation especially over a significant period of time then they deserve the riches that come their way.
The cost to the UK taxpayer is insignificant and will become less so. If it was significant you can be sure that most UK taxpayers wouldn't be happy about it.
A minor glitch is the current English Military Occupation of them Islands.
Don't they now!
So glad mine caught the right boat.
So, the falklands cannot be british because only 3,000 people live there for such a large place, is that your thinking? Well this is nonsense of course. Greenland is a huge island and yet its population is a mere 56,744 (approx), each person having 38 sq kilometers of area, simple mathematics reveals the falklanders have a mere 4k sq. So when will you start trying to claim Greenland?
I clearly don't believe that you pay your taxes to HMRC, but more likely to the Argentine tax authories, and therefore legally you taxes belong to a variety of hedge-funds and creditors...but no doubt this will be renaged upon.
However, as far as the oil revenue is concerned, what you are referring to is not oil revenue it is a small amount of taxation payable by the explorers, and will rightly be reinvested to ensure and promote future oil development in the islands.
When in 2017 the actual revenues start to come in, I imagine the correct vehicle will be similar to a Norwegian or Singapore fund, where investments are made for the good of the islanders.
Interestingly, you wish also to speak for all non-Argentines, and suggest there is a disagreement. Whereas, the facts are clear, they don't suit your 9or other Argentines) distortion that ”the british (should or do) want the oil revenues”
i'd rather be an idiot than a sock-puppet who is so insecure in his opinions that he has to make up a fake account to agree with himself.
Who is the idiot in that equation i wonder... the “person” who claimed to be at a certain meeting in the UK as “proof” of his legitimacy..but then turned out to be lying (there was no such meeting).
Or the person who claimed to be looking out of his window at a ship in port... which wasn't in port.
I rather suspect the “Idiot” label falls to the person who cant even fake a proper proof of him being a real person, than somebody who merely points out to others that you are nothing other than someboody elses imagination.
You are a fake, a charlatan, a liar and a buffoon THinkoDoD.
Two, quite good one-liners...... :-)))
Well it seems this is one of those special magic rules, a special magic rule that only applies to the falklands.
Yet another argument lost Dove, Think. I marvel at your ability to spew out Argentina's case, even when there is more nourishment in celery soup.
@10 Why? Your “country” illegally and unconstitutionally expropriates anything it wants. We will, legally, take anything we want. And you are IMPOTENT!
@15 WE are agreed. What you “think” is your problem.
@17 You have a problem? Your taxes go to HMRC because it is the government department working for a Minister of the Crown. Technically, the taxes are levied by the Sovereign. The civil servants in HMRC also work for the Sovereign. So, once paid, the taxes are the property of the Sovereign. And they are dispensed, as appropriate, by Her Majesty's government. So, to clarify, it's not your money. It is paid, legally, to Crown servants. Who are also NOT employed by you. The Falkland Islands are a different matter. It is, in essence, a separate country having an association with, and under the protection of, the British Crown. The Crown does not interfere in its internal domestic matters. Except insofar as may be appropriate to ensure good governance. How the Falkland Islands Government disposes of its money is up to it.
@22 “Occupation” is, as you know, the wrong word. The British military are there by invitation. If required by the Falkland Islands Government, British military forces will leave. Not something argie military forces (joke!) would do. And therein lies the difference! Oh, and argieland has no title. It's just a dream. Similar to the ones about argieland being a wonderful “country” and having a “thriving” economy.
Resolve resolve,
A political solution”
But the solution has been there all along,
It’s always been there,
Tell Argentina to leave the Falklands alone,
See its simple is it not,
Sadly just a little bit hard to implement,
We say,
If the British government, took of the straight jacket, and treat the world as some treat us,
If we treated Argentina, in the same way as they treated us,
And we was just a bit more aggressive, perhaps we would not be in this catch 22 in the first place,
Lets face it, [its coming]
We all know it is, sooner or later, [ its coming]
Its just a matter of Cameron and his famous ring fencing..
.
Proud and Argentine... what an oxymoron.
I hear the slums of Buernos Aires are growing daily. Best you sort your citizens life styles out before you worry about the Falklanders.
Falklanders GDP per capital far exceeds those of most argentines, this being the case and falklanders being losers, where are you in the grand scale of things.... nowhere to be seen.
Keep Calm the British are.... already there!
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“The situation will remain the same: the Falk=slum=Landers will always complain about the “argentine goverment harassment”:”
Easy way to stop that Argie: stop harassing them, but at least you ahve the courage to admit you are harassing them.... though there isnt a lot else you can do.
I mean, being nice & peaceful neighbors OBVIOUSLY isnt an option is it? /sarcasm
Are you expecting El Thicko to understand and think, before he has learnt to read?
@41 Proud Argie
It is not harassment. It just makes you a racist scrote.
Not so much anti-
Rather than pro tyrant.
.
YOU are the tyrant....bloody rubbish jack the ripper
people have the right to choose
This issue isn't as hard as you like to make it out to be. You want the islands? Simple: get an economy as good as, or better than, UK's, so that you can lure/offer the Falklanders something other than poverty, war, and oppression.
This is such an elementary thought, that the fact you can't see this ^ means you're utterly brainwashed.
You get more flies with honey than with vinegar. You don't win a population over, or do the right thing, by attacking/oppressing/impoverishing them. Duh
That approach may have worked once, but it is far, far too late now.
Who could consider it after all they've said & done?
And if they now offered honey instead of vinegar, we would look at them with contempt.
We will never progress until they get the idea out of their heads that they actually have “rights” here.
They have no more “rights” to these lslands than say, the Republic of Moldovia or Egypt or Japan.
And of course, as you say, who in their right mind would want to be part of their economic meltdown?
Thanks for the offer, Argentina, but no thanks.
This argument will go on for centuries to come and will cause many more displaced people in Argentina and like always a people who are trying to go about their daily lives in peace will be caught up in it.
The world is a changing place but for many this has not been accepted by Argentina. What happened 200 years ago or even centuries ago is no longer relevant because world opinion has changed. The vast majority wish for the current human race to live in peace. This will never happen while we still have dictators around who totally ignore those wishes. It is also the very reason we still have so many wars around the world today. The democracies of the world are united and growing and will one day prevail.
Without democracy the world would be an even more violent place to live in.
Countries who defy the rights of another people will be punished and could even be destroyed by others and is this really worth it for something that is not worth fighting over. At the end of the day it is people who suffer not the land in question.
The long term solution is to become united and share each others wealth and skills. that way the world becomes a much better place to live in.
No it is not wrong according to the UN Charter.
It doesn't matter how small the population is-most of them were born in the Islands-their birthplace, their birthright, like everyone else.
Dont think this will go UN-noticed in G.B. the hypocrisy will be seen.
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/falklandislands/9917947/The-fate-of-the-Falklands-is-in-the-islanders-hands.html
“... people justifiably say, 'Look, in the present situation, you have the best of both worlds. You are supported by Britain militarily, but you are not paying British taxes and you are actually better off than Britain”.
That will never happen and each year Falkland islanders grow in wealth and very soon we will have th efinance to support a protective force way superior to any Argentina can muster.
Best thing you could do right now is shut up.
yes 51
yours..
Because we have identical circumstances in that we are territories of Britain so how do you propose we change that eh.
1) You'll be fully re-imbursed when the oil starts flowing.
2) The UK will then have a reliable source of cheaper(not free!)oil.
3) The UK will benefit from jobs & providing infrastructure to the oil industry.
4) The UK will have a handy reliable base to patrol the South Atlantic & the sealanes between Antarctica & S.America.
5) The Army have a great training area.
What else do you want, mr pretend Brit?
Of course none of this suits Argentina,
But we don't give a rat's arse what Argentina wants.
@51 Vestige,
Same applies to you with one addition,
Keep your nose out of our business.
This is NOT your land, never has been & never will be.
Fix your own broken country.
Thank you, the two.
@57 Thank you, please have that debt added to the Falkland Island Account retrospectively so that we can all grasp the extent of the backdated compound interest. Once you've done that one of us will come down and explain to you that the hydrocarbons produced in the UK EEZ around the Islands will be sold on the world market for the best price because we are still, fundamentally, a free market economy. The same goes for the contracts for the infrastructure projects. As for the Falkland Islands being a great training area for the Army......
You had your chance to rewrite the 2008 Constitution and you fumbled it. From now on get ready watch the cash strapped UK Government slowly renege on what you think it has promised you regarding the control of the resources and the revenue.
It matter snot one bit if Britain requests or takes or asks for the revenue fro the oil. Falkland Islanders as individuals really do not care about world monetary greed they simply just want to be left ALONE to conduct their own affairs without Argentina trying to interfere all the time. As for you 58 Doveoverdover . I guess you have had personal issues with the Falkland’s. Maybe you once lived here among us but was unable to impose your desired changes upon us and left with a bitter feeling.
Maybe you would like me to come and threaten your very existence , take your home and your wealth. Have you ever stopped for a moment and considered what it would be like to be in the position of being bullied. Probably not as your tone of writing suggests you are set for life and to hell with anyone else.
If you are a Britain why the issue.
Been refused entry?
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