Former Argentine dictator anticipates a military-people uprising to recover the Republic
Former Argentine dictator Jorge Rafael Videla, came on stage to once again question the Government of President Cristina Fernandez. In an interview with the Spanish media, the dictator said that in case the Kirchnerites try to “perpetuate in power, the armed and security forces along with the people will prevent it.”
In an interview with Spain’s magazine “Cambio 16”, the former general insisted that the current government “makes a political use of the ‘disappeared’” during the last military regime (1976-1983). Plus, Videla stressed that he is a “political prisoner” and that Argentina “is going through another war just like the one that started in 1976.”
Videla, who is currently on trial charged with being part of the Operation Condor, a campaign of political repression and terror involving assassination and intelligence operations officially implemented in 1975 by the right-wing dictatorships of the of South America- said that Kirchnerism “continues plunging Argentina into the anachronistic abyss of Marxism.”
In the interview, Videla also asked that all his comrades “aged between 58-68 years old, who are still in combat fitness, to arm themselves again in order to defend the basic institutions of the Argentine Republic, and fight President Cristina Fernández de Kirchner and her henchmen.”
When asked if he had any regrets, Videla acknowledged that the main error the so-called “National Reorganization Process” regime committed was “not seeking for a political opening since 1978.”
”The time for an orderly political opening was by mid-1978 and after having achieved the primary objective which was to bring order against the state of anarchy created by President María Estela Martínez de Perón after the death of her husband [Juan Perón]”, Videla indicated.
Finally, the ex dictator asserted that “Today, Argentina witness a new war but without the use of physical violence as is proposed by [Antonio] Gramsci, as institutions are being taken hostage, thus we could say that the Republic has disappeared”.
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It will be interesting to see how CFK will try to perpetuate her power. She's no Bachelet.
”Videla also asked that all his comrades “aged between 58-68 years old, who are still in combat fitness, to arm themselves again in order to defend the basic institutions of the Argentine Republic.
If I'm anything to go by he'll have difficulty scraping together as much as a four man Active Service Unit.
You mean... You couldn't complete one of these under 4½ minutes?
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hq7hQISinRQ
Is toby the only troll that lives in Argentina? And the rest like think and pirate all in Canada, Europe?
www.militarypentathlon.org/public/milpent/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=70&Itemid=59
How disapointing..............
The Argies retreating back to Stanley would have left that lot standing :-)
How dissapointing..............
,Mrs C.F.K. has her faults but compared to this butcher she is a gentle soul.
Actually I was thinking more the other way around: the more we see & hear of CFK the more she appears like a desperate dictator: shes just killing people through her awful economic policies rather than by throwing them out of planes.
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nice case of irrational xenophobia you got going there DoDgyThink: got anything meaningful to contribute or too busy trying to remember what account you're posting from today to actually post something to do with the topic?
No?
No change there then either. /em rollseyes
That comment of yours was not so turnipy.............
Correct...
They can't even qualify.....
Those Fish & Chips fed , fat assed English soldiers....
Why would you even have that website? Googling crap just to try and(poorly) troll people.
Seriously, you are a very sad old man.
You don't dissapoint me....
You deserved that 30-3 ;-)
Argentinians are too stupid and corrupt to have a form of Democracy.
They need a Pinochet to come in and clean house.
It will probably take a generation or two to get it on the right track
but wouldn't Rgs want a better life for their kids and grandkids?
I once read a story about what seemed to be a “perfect” political system. All persons in positions of power were required to wear a “chain of office”. All citizens had access to “voting booths” where they could register their “dissatisfaction” with office-holders. If the number of votes reached a pre-determined level, the appropriate “chain of office” exploded and blew the office-holder's head off!
Wouldn't that be a good system for argieland?
but getting back to the subject, nice to hear discontent brewing within argentina.
SELF-DETERMINATION
Recently posted video of my favourite English politician owning an Oxonian Turnip….
”Think” what you are saying, young man….:
www.liveleak.com/view?i=caf_1363651685
That little student reminds me of many of the Anglo Turnips in here (non mentioned-non forgotten)
Chuckle chuckle©
They're paying $17 while in the USA we are paying $4 no wonder their economy is failing and mfg is coming back to the USA.
I don't think this huge gas imports can be balanced out by SOY this year.
So where oh where will they get teh U$ they need to buy it?
Iran? maybe some if the USA allows it
Arg citizens bank accounts...likely but not enough
CFK's stolen fortune...never
IADB/WB...I don't see them disbursing anything anytime soon
Does anyone else hear the wheels grinding to a halt...I'm 13 hrs away by plane and it's clear as a bell here.
And if you do take 21's advice could you arrange for it to be filmed and posted here. I believe its not too late for comic relief.
Perhaps you could wear a red nose.
I don't know about that Jorge.
How about:
“Kirchnerism continues plunging Argentina into the anachronistic abyss of Kirchnerism”.
Different name, same disease, same cure.
I agree, I've even heard many Uruguayans in Uruguay say that's what Argentina needs.
Are you still ”Fit for Fight?
Can you still run one of these under 4:30 min?
www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-7heqU2T68
Viva la Patria, indeed...
And may Videla and his gang rot in prision.
Piadosos saludos
El Think
You still aren't aware of Britain are you? After all you call a Scottish RESPECT Party politician English. I think the only Turnip here is you.
Bye the way THINK you seem to think I,m a Brit I ,m Irish(eire)
That's why some of your comments are not so turnipy.............;-)
Not going to bother commenting on what I said then? Thats your usual behaviour when you yourself act like a complete Turnip.
The man speaks with straight tongue,
And with experience,
A bad man he may be,
But CFK should take note, and learn from their mistakes,
Or she will almost certainly be next,
Her time is running out,
And without her invisible victory,
It might be sooner than she thinks.
Her best mate has croaked it,
Her holy pope will abandon her,
The Falklands alludes her,
She has nothing left in the kitty.
m
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If that happened in a civilized country there would be panic in the streets!
Why don't these Rgs care?
Are they too stupid to understand that most of their economy is ultimately paid in U$?
I am not sure what you said because your comment is not longer there.
I am sure you said Jorge and friends rot in jail before hell.
@46 I said ” Viva la Patria” Marcos, a concept that you should learn more often :-)
Dear Pomi
In your young years you were able to put a 155 mm projectile on a target 20 Km away on a single shot, they say.
You did that obstacle course in 3:15, you say.
And now a cebar mates a Jorge en cana, I say.
Viva la Patria y saludos.
3:15 minutes......................... not bad!
I wasn't expecting any less from you.
A perfect “Soldado de la Patria”.
In wich Patria was that, btw?
Buenos Aires or Tejas?
Anyhow in the spirit of Jesuitic reconciliation........
What do you “Think” about the beatification of that dead commie friar?
Ordered by that other dead commie, Monseñor Enrique Angelelli.
You are, after all, a Menendez.
You may know something.
#26 Brilliant Think, I really enjoyed that. “You can't be a student at Oxford and say that” reminded me of another great leader who said “Are you really at Harvard?!” =)
@50 Mr Think, the moment that all the “montos” ( with jobs in the current administration) are sentenced for the crimes committed in the 70's, THEN you and I can share some vital information from the past
” the moment that all the “montos” ( with jobs in the current administration) are sentenced for the crimes committed in the 70's, THEN you and I can share some vital information from the past”
Well said.
The law doesn't work this way, milico.
An assasin can't just refuse its punishment until all other criminals are caught.
Funny to see though that the only backing you seem to ever get in these pages comes from British extremists that would gladly blowyour beloved Fatherland to pieces....
Or from Shilenos as (53), your favourite neighbors, I recall.
He should just know how close you, personally, were in 1982 :-)))
Right. And a political class can't just harbor assassins because they sympathize with their political tendencies (or friends al Sergio Galvarino Apablaza Guerra).
There is only ONE law Mr Think , funny you say that and apparently in “our” beloved country , justice works for the ones who wore uniforms ONLY ( juicios express ? in 5 minutes you ended up in jail for laws that didn't exist back then ) . The manipulation of history, the politics of “ clientelismo” , the milking of the “ Human rights” ( it became a business already if you don't believe me ask Hebe about it ) , I can go on and on and on .... How is the dollar anyways ? inflation at 33% ? I love “ El modelo” already !!
@53 Thanks !! you know very well what I'm talking about , look at Chile now and look at us ..... :-)
A yorar a la iglesia
Miliquin de Bachin....
Once a Gorila, always a Gorila !!! Can we get the tanks out now ? assuming we have enough diesel to get to “ La Rosada” ??? :-)))))
The diesel would be the least of your problems....
Getting that fat Taco Bell behind of yours through the hatch, on the other hand....
”Once a Gorila, always a Gorila !!!
Like Think said baja la panza :-))
Can you still dance?
www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6V1DSAbv2s
www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6V1DSAbv2s
Artillero 601: Gorilla and Boca supporter.
Haga Patria.................... Deporte un Bostero.
The Pope may be a Cuervo......... but God is Gallina!
Viva River..................................................... Carajo!
@61 Gorilla yes ! , bostero never !! soy gallina Think :-)
Changing the subject , how is the re election coming along ?
I am afraid you are wrong, Pomi is gallina komo uste :-)))
Y esa falla? :-)
In every family there is a black sheep..
In every gorilla is a human streak.
Pomi is indeed our dark sheep...
Being Millonario is his redeeming streak..
What re-re election?
That story is as dead as J.A.M.D.H.
A Diós gracias
the re election of CFK ?
Try to keep with the rest.
The re election of CFK is a No Go.
It is definitely dead, compreihende?
ThePresident herself killed it the other day.
No Constitutional Reform will be forwarded by the present administration.
You know what the Constitution is?
That piece of paper you milicos used to wipe your ass with.
So I suppose my comradely question from afar, as a leftist inspired by Crsitina in a country I would dearly like to have its own leftist President (our mutually admired Mr Galloway perhaps!) or at least something a bit more credible than the Osbourne set, is what next? If your right and there's no change on re-election, can Cristina transfer her authority to another candidate, like Lula did with Dilma, or as Chavez did in appointing Maduro just before he died? And if so who could it be? I can't believe that after all the progress rgentina has made, and Cristina's ever deepening radicalism over the press, the judiciary etc, that a conservative Peronist could simply swoop in to the Presidency by default, let alone with any kind of support from Cristina and/or her movement?
The right wingers in Argentina keep banging about the re-election of Cristina because they have based ALL their campaing and policies against her personally.
Without her, they don't have a clue about what to do or where to go or who to attack.
Cristina has, wisely, decided to step aside and let the process continue.
Lula/Dilma should definitely be THE example to follow for the Peronists.
Let's hope for a “Dilma”
Why does a peronist/communist hate working middleclass?
Apparently she admitted she stopped imports because now she is threatening to open imports.....lol.
Stocks are down
peso is overvalued by as much as 60%
businesses are leaving and executives are leaving in the night
There is no extra soy to save the day
Auto production down 2.3% yoy
overall industrial output don 2.4% yoy
Exporters are losing the ability to export because they cannot import raw materials
I know many business people in BsAs where the elevators in the buildings have been shot for almost a year because they cannot get parts imported
Medicine is nearing catastrophic levels, only matters if you have cancer, diabetes or a kidney disease
Argentina must be the only country to steal, mean expropriate a business and less than a year later, negotiate to partner with the company they stole from.
Hey.....did you see the pink house last night without electricity?....during dinner....lol
Peronist .....not even the rest of SA that is serious want to deal with argentina. She is like the crazy aunt they want to keep in the basement.
Well I just hope the process will continue, which will require a Kirchnerist or even a transversal left, but not any old Peronist and certainly not Scioli
“Lula/Dilma should definitely be THE example to follow for the Peronists.
Let's hope for a “Dilma””
Any idea who the Dilma might be? Any preferance yourself? (I think Timmerman, Kiccilof or Alicia Castro would be great)
With “Process” i mean the “Democratic Process” not the “Current Administration Process”.
No idea who the Argentinean “Dilma” will be.
Way too early to tell.
This is Argentina ;-)
in which case does
“Cristina has, wisely, decided to step aside and let the process continue”
mean that to try and reform the constitution would have provoked a coup? In which case that suggest there are still powerful anti-democratic forces that she and her supporters need to smash, whoever stands in the next election...
You read too much from my words.....
If I wanted to say that there is any risk for a Military Coup in Argentina, I would say so....
There is, in my humble opinion, no risk for a Military Coup in Argentina....
But hastily reforming the Constitution to allow a Re-re election of Cristina would have seriously damaged the image of democracy in Argentina and given the still powerful anti-democratic forces some much needed ammunition for their retrograde discourse.
Sadly so to me though, for a number of reasons; the Menem era constitution shouldn't be sacrosant - Chavez and Correa have completely “refounded the republic” in their countries which is I think a good idea (just founding one in my country of course would be a start!); secondly I don't believe in term limits in principle, never have even before the debates about Chavez, the fact Roosevelt was able to stand for a third term went a long way to saving the world from Hitler (and the Republicans Party then amended the constitution soon after to stop it happening again!) and no British leader has been term limited; finally I do think if she wants to go on and the people still want to elect her Cristina should have the same right as any other citizen to be President, and in my opinion towers over all the competition, as well as most other world leaders.
World politics will be a duller place without her, even in faraway Britain; but on the plus side many former Presidents in the past have become ambassadors to “major” countries, so she could maybe swap jobs with Alicia =)
Anyway I know its too early to tell who the “Dilma” could be, its proabbly tactically best for Cristina to keep her options open for as long as possible, but is there anyone you (and other comrades like Axel etc) would partiularly LIKE it to be. I like Timmerman and Castro myself =)
Asswiper BK if you are going to recite American history, get it right. The Federal Government in the USA cannot change the constitution alone. Republicans introduced bills that were signed into law by Harry S. Truman......a liberal Democrat. And more importantly, the feds cannot change the American Constitution without ratification or 75% of the states. You think 75% of the USA were Republicans? States have more power to yea or nay the change. It called States Rights.....that too is in our Constitution.
BK....as always, reciting bits and pieces of truth that fits your points. Blind hatred of anyone that thinks other than you, calling anything that thinks different the ”right”. At least you use the correct word.....RIGHT.
Oh yes and BTW, Roosevelt won a 4th election in office of the President.
Get it right or do not recite it.
Communist education at it's best.
By the way, as you said, the Republicans made sure they had no more Roosevelts, it also insured their own party was held to two terma as well, you seem to ignore both sides of the equation. You make it appear it only affects one party.
Come on....forget it about argieland...
why don't you something about your “country” “the usa”
jijiji
2012 tax returns delays
applications for SSI Disability= 6 mo. to 12 months delays
applications for Veterans Disability= 12 to 18 months delays
applications for SSI Retirement=9 months delays
goverment offices don't answer phone calls after 11:30 am
see the USA debt clock ticking?
poor “food stamp Obama” !
www.buenosairesherald.com/article/127187/boudous-motorcade-attacked-in-quito-ecuadorean-govt-says
You know what the Constitution is? Yes , I have a vague knowledge about that :-))
www.mendozatransparente.com.ar/noticias/losdecretosdeaniquilamientodelasubversiondelgobiernoperonista
do you remenber this one ? ( o sea , nosotros no la inventamos, vio ? )
In which case what's your point?! “Its the beggining of”...what exactly???
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