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Election year fever in Argentina: fuel price freeze and lower interests on bank arrears

Wednesday, April 10th 2013 - 23:17 UTC
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Election fever in Argentina: the administration of President Cristina Fernandez froze the price of gasoline and diesel sold at service stations for six months and convinced banks to cut interest payments on arrears. Last month supermarket chains and other suppliers agreed to extend the current price freeze. Read full article

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  • ElaineB

    I realise that poor people tend to focus on the immediate and do not have the leisure of long-term planning but are they really bought so easily?

    Apr 10th, 2013 - 11:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • andy65

    When will these people learn???

    Apr 10th, 2013 - 11:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    The dike is groaning under the pressure and structurally about to give way and Cristina goes and sticks her finger in it and tells everyone to go home and relax.

    She has averted the deluge..... or has she?

    Apr 11th, 2013 - 12:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • MagnusMaster

    @1 well, the people (not just the poor, the middle class as well) were bought this easily in 2007 and 2011. But during those elections the economy was doing better. Now the Ks will have to unleash the secret weapon... Marcelo Tinelli. With topless women and imitators in comedy sketchs making the president look good they have a chance to win these elections.
    In 2009, a sketchy Colombian named Francisco De Narvaez won against the K simply by paying a truckload of cash to Tinelli to make him good. Tinelli hired one of his imitators, who portrayed De Narvaez in a good light, and this is how De Narvaez got so many votes. Note that even a moron knows that the people at Tinelli's shows are imitators, but they project the personality of the imitator to the real deal. This is proof that, with the right spells, anyone can make the masses vote anyone. Just hire some PR guys, psychologists, ad agencies and influencial TV hosts and you can get voted in.
    This is how Cristina earns support. Just with simple psycology people's beliefs can be manipulated. If in the first-world there is a whole industry whose sole purpose is manipulating people by mastering the science of mind control, imagine what those tecniques can do in a third-world society...

    Apr 11th, 2013 - 12:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Argentina is the laughing stock of the world.
    What a bunch of fools
    They have done this same scheme over and over again about every 20 years.
    The Ks couldn't even make a decade without an implosion
    What a mess

    I predict we will see the Nuevo Austral or Peso Oro really soon.

    Apr 11th, 2013 - 12:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Livin_for_a_better_Uruguay

    Seems it doesn't take much to win people in argentina over.

    Apr 11th, 2013 - 12:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    Oh, I don't think it's a good time yet for the right to win an
    election. The economic house of cards will soon collapse and whomever is in the Casa Rosada will be blamed.

    Apr 11th, 2013 - 01:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • XAVIERV

    That makes me laugh apocalyptic read reviews of the islanders. Always wanting deep within your being, that disappears Argentina, as those resentful wishing evil to his neighbor. Tell me: Does UK have no internal problems? But only see the bad that happens in my country and not know how good it also lies. Instead of looking out her navel look better, 90% of the commenters on this page do not live on the islands, each day has less population, because age and youth migrate for good. I find that a much more serious problem than the problem of inflation. In 100 years the English army marines guard it only a few penguins on the rocks. If Argentina say bad, I say: you are worse!

    Apr 11th, 2013 - 02:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Livin_for_a_better_Uruguay

    @8
    Come back when you can type proper english and people can understand what you're saying.

    Apr 11th, 2013 - 02:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Welsh Wizard

    Have a read and see what you think

    http://www.atfa.org/if-the-cpi-is-not-corrected-up-to-us3-billion-will-be-lost/

    Apr 11th, 2013 - 09:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Optimus_Princeps

    @1 It's the same in every country. Certain types of people just wash each day away with whatever quantity of alcohol they can purchase with their daily take home pay. They watch television and mindlessly accept any information that comes their way.

    My take on it is, that if you fall for propaganda or mass media manipulation, you're an idiot. Politicians use cheap tricks because there are enough stupid people to fall for them.

    Apr 11th, 2013 - 11:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • willi1

    the args will be happy with the freezed gasonline prices and give ck their votes. after the election ck will increase the price to double as she has 4 more years to let it forget by the people. this was the fact after the last election with other costs and taxes and dollar freeze. they will never learn.

    Apr 11th, 2013 - 11:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • malicious bloke

    And the cycle continues.

    You can freeze the price of fuel but you can't freeze the cost of production and/or import.

    Eventually imports will stop and domestic production will grind to a halt as their debts mount.

    At that point you have to send in the army and confiscate whatever supplies you can get your hands on but it doesn't solve the overall problem that your stupid socialist economic policies have ruined EVERYTHING.

    Apr 11th, 2013 - 11:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • British_Kirchnerist

    Good luck to the Cristinista candidates, hope (and expect) the people's iron lady will stay in control right up to 2015, if not longer, and her legacy will be more entrenched than Maggie's in the long term =)

    Apr 11th, 2013 - 12:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Islander1

    * - Firstly we genuine Islanders wish no harm to the ordinary Arg people.

    Secondly where is your evidence of a declining populatione tc in the Islands?
    If it is - WHY are our Schools bulging at the seams and the Junior School in particular needing new extra classrooms?
    WHY is it that our youngsters go overseas to study at university- of course what little town of 3000 people in any country has its own Univ and Tec. Colleges etc etc- then RETURN to the Islands?

    Apr 11th, 2013 - 12:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • manchesterlad

    Did I really hear some twat compare Maggie with CFK?

    First of all, Maggie restored some pride to the UK by confronting left wing socialist extremists who were bringing the country down to it's knees much like what the Bolivarians are doing in S.A.

    She re-energized the economy by privatizing lame duck nationalized industries making them more efficient & profitable

    She stood up to the miners, power workers, engineering unions to name a few who were blackmailing the country with their excessive wage demands

    She helped hundreds of thousands out of poverty & enabled them to buy their own homes for the first time in their lives

    She ended the culture of state dependancy making people stand on their own two feet & taking responsibility for themselves

    She was instrumental in bringing down the iron curtain by opening up communication lines with Gorbachev

    She was instrumental in ending apartheid by opening up communication lines with De Klerk & Botha

    And last but not least she had the ' pelotas' to stand up to the military junta who invaded a peaceful island nation & not only did she win the war but it also helped to bring down a brutal dictatorship for which the RGs should be forever thankful

    Now then, what did CFK do?.......................hmmmmm..............................
    Oh yeah, she increased inflation to around 30% per year, she introduced import controls creating shortages in manufacturing, she introduced dollar controls creating a massive parallel market, she created state capitalism by taking over the central bank, pension funds & YPF, she's picked fights with the U.S., U.K, E.U., U.N., I.M.F., F.I., Scioli, Macri, Moyano & even the pope, she hid behind the Campora in times of national crisis like the Once train crash & the La Plata floods

    And last but not least, she whined about the Falklands incessantly until everyone got tired of her including B.K.Moon & the Pope.........absolutely NO COMPARISON!!!

    Apr 11th, 2013 - 12:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Hmm fuel price freeze yet gas went up 9% last night? Curious.
    It will be fun to watch the different parts of the gov't fight each other.
    YPF already has very poor cash flow, I don't see the other companies importing gas and selling at a loss.
    This winter will be so fun to watch.

    Anyone want to take bets inflation will be closer to 40 than 30 this year?

    Apr 11th, 2013 - 12:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    @ 14 British

    The Iron Lady? PMSL Sorry dude but no matter how you try to twist it, CFK will never ever be the Iron Lady; as no one is scared of her and she hasn't really stood up to anyone.

    Other than being female, that is where the similarities end.

    There has only been one Iron Lady and there won't be another anytime soon.

    PS: I too hope that CFK stays in power and perhaps longer...... if so, then Argentina will get everything it deserves and the Falkland Islands will be much closer to their eventually independence and Chile and Uruguay's living standard will pull so far ahead of Argentina that CFK's legacy will forever haunt Argentina like a bad case of genital warts.

    Apr 11th, 2013 - 12:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anbar

    “”“But only see the bad that happens in my country and not know how good it also lies. ”“”

    Well, one BIG problem is that your media is, effectively, state-controlled, so it isnt exactly trustworthy (not saying that anybody elses is either, but that's another matter).

    The other MAJOR problem is that “Argentines” on this forum seem more willing to fall back on the argument of “SoandSO is worse of.as bad as us” rather than actual SAYING what the good things in their country are.

    If various Argentines (rather, those who actually LIVE THERE) spent their time on telling people the good things they would be doing their country a far bigger service than bitching at everybody else does.

    Stop whining so much, stop blaming everybody else, and start TELLING PEOPLE what the good stuff supposedly is.

    Apr 11th, 2013 - 12:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • expbrit

    @ 16 manchesterlad

    Very well said sir !!! A+++

    Apr 11th, 2013 - 12:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Frank

    @16 They compared the two of them here....

    http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/128215/iron-ladies

    I don't know if it is a typo or not at the end where they call the mad bitch the 'iran lady'

    Apr 11th, 2013 - 01:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Optimus_Princeps

    @14 You were more tolerable when you would just pleasure yourself to pictures of CFK, and not make stupid comments from a safe location.

    Why don't you move down here and experience it for yourself, unless you're too much of a coward. You can volunteer to actually help the poor instead of watching an old hag steal money to bribe violent idiots to be her army of hooligans.

    Apr 11th, 2013 - 01:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Benson

    “That makes me laugh apocalyptic read reviews of the islanders.”
    Stretched puppies balloon agogo in the fizz port.

    Apr 11th, 2013 - 01:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • darragh

    @16

    Doesn't look like a typo to me “Iron Lady” was in quotes- iran lady wasn't

    @23

    WTF??????????????????????????????????

    Apr 11th, 2013 - 01:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Nostros

    “”Should the archipelago be returned to Argentina? Or could this be another Hong Kong moment for the United Kingdom?“”

    You cannot return something which never belonged, when will education reach Argentina is a question I would like to ask.

    Apr 11th, 2013 - 01:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Benson

    @24
    Sorry I was just making as much sense as 8 Xavi

    @14 BK
    She's more like an iron maiden to the people.

    Apr 11th, 2013 - 01:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DanyBerger

    Ah! our lovely Queen every day she looks even nice.

    Sure Britons are so jealous because the have a nasty old smelly nanny lady.

    Sorry seem you where not so lucky as the argies.
    Ha ha ha
    “habemus Papam” and you suckers?
    Ha ha ha

    Apr 11th, 2013 - 01:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Welsh Wizard

    Can't remember where I read it yesterday but Argentina has $13bn outstanding of loans to Venez...if things start to go south they will want their cash back

    Apr 11th, 2013 - 02:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anbar

    “”“Stretched puppies balloon agogo in the fizz port.”“”

    My God! It's CFKs speech writer! ¬_¬

    Apr 11th, 2013 - 02:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Raul

    8 XAVIERV

    It understands their comments. Very good reasoning. UK is in serious economic and soon will the crisis deepens as Cyprus and Greece for its neoliberal policies. It is only a matter of time.

    14 British_Kirchnerist

    Cristna not an iron lady. Have enough sensitivity to understand the needs of the people of Argentina. Their convictions and their compliance with the Argentine people reelect him again.
    Cristina known to fulfill the principles of social justice, economic independence and political sovereignty. Evita Peron is the time of OU.

    16 manchesterlad

    You're looking for an English enslave Argentina. Cristina Kirchner sent to jail and the military genocidal human rights struggle. A decade gained to Argentino people compared to the lost decade of the 90s.

    You can not compare. Cristina apusta for life, peace, non-violence and understanding.
    Margaret Thatcher opted for violence, death and colonialism and imperialism.
    In the UK itself is celebrating his own death.

    In several British cities celebrated with street parties

    http://www.clarin.com/mundo/ciudades-britanicas-celebraron-fiestas-callejeras_0_898710174.html

    Apr 11th, 2013 - 04:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anbar

    Raul: Remind us who invaded the Falklands....

    was it:
    a) Thatcher
    or
    b) Argentina

    Also who subdued and colonised Patagonia
    was it:
    a) Argentina
    or
    b) Argentina

    (I made the last one easy for you to understand)

    Apr 11th, 2013 - 04:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    Xarv.
    She opted for nothing, you invaded, you fired the first shot. She responded, fired the last and defeated you.
    Now try and behave with some degree of dignity and stop behaving like a bunch of cry babies. Frankly, it is embarrassing to watch!

    Apr 11th, 2013 - 04:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anbar

    “”“Now try and behave with some degree of dignity and stop behaving like a bunch of cry babies. ”“”

    there is, according to certain Argentines, a UN resolution that expressly forbids the targets of Argentine Colonialism from being allowed to defend themselves.

    (And if there isn't they will be sure to make one up!)

    Apr 11th, 2013 - 04:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    Well they are behaving like a bunch of cry babies. Honestly, I never read anything so distorted from the truth and reality. Margaret Thatcher responsible, Margaret Thatcher militaristic, Margaret Thatcher, Margaret Thather, Margaret Thatcher! They will be telling their kids she is hiding under the bed next.

    It's a damn shame that more people do not read this site and see for themselves, how pathetic and childish these people are.

    The entire educated world knows who was responsible for the violence caused over the islands and it sure as hell was not Thatcher.

    Like I said, it's embarrassing to read it!

    Apr 11th, 2013 - 04:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    34. Brainwashing works, look how long N Koreans have been living without being in the modern world.
    Rgs are not a smart people, they are extremely arrogant and narcissistic they can't even fathom being wrong about anything.

    That is why they get so angry when anyone points out facts.

    That is also why they are always getting laughed at and embarrassed outside of their own country.

    It find it fascinating.

    Apr 11th, 2013 - 05:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anbar

    “”“It find it fascinating.”“”

    like watching a train wreck in slow motion....

    Apr 11th, 2013 - 09:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • expbrit

    @21 and 24

    “Perhaps history will record that the day Britain’s “Iron Lady” passed away was also the time Argentina’s Iran lady made a crucial decision between pursuing a populist power agenda and tackling the real problems of real people.”

    Looks deliberate to me. Iran lady ... what a hoot :-)

    Apr 12th, 2013 - 01:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • RICO

    PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMENT

    Following the death of world class politician St. Margaret of Finchley I have decided to rename Argentina. From today its new name in english is Thatchertina. Please use the correct new name from now on in your postings.

    Apr 12th, 2013 - 07:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    36. Yes the part about the decade worth of financial missteps is fun to watch too but what I think is really fascinating are the Rg Pols when they leave the country and talk in public.
    Everyone, and I mean everyone rolls their eyes and if they don't accidentally burst out laughing they are definitely smirking.
    They try to pass off this delusion that Argentina is somehow always right and good and they keep saying it over and over again is just weirdly funny and sad at the same time.
    The whole world is laughing at them or are dumbfounded with their ignorance.
    It is truly bizarre
    In any other country ( Except ALBA , Burma, N Korea, Zimbabwe) these pols would be out of a job for being so nutty.
    Fascinating.

    Apr 12th, 2013 - 01:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • MagnusMaster

    @39 yes, it´s fascinating isn´t it? I wonder, what makes some countries end up with these nutty politicians?

    Apr 12th, 2013 - 02:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • manchesterlad

    @30

    CFK is not peaceful, non violent & understanding because she uses inflamatory rhetoric which has caused many a war in the past. She tries to trample her opposition & the word compromise is not in her vocabulary

    Maggie did not opt for violence, death, colonialism & imperialism…. It was forced upon her by a brutal dictatorship who had murdered 30,000 of their own people, what do you think they planned for the Falklanders???

    The idiots celebrating Maggies death weren´t even born in the 80´s…. they are socialist, leftist extremists just like yourself who have lived on handouts all their lives & have never constructed, built, created or contributed anything to society …….ESTA CLARO!!!

    Apr 12th, 2013 - 03:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • British_Kirchnerist

    Re the Clarin “Iran lady” column, doesn't look like a typo to me - just the usual distorted rubbish. And of course extreme nationalism, attacking Cristina for making a just peace with an old foe - I often wonder what the anti-K Argie right really think of their British cheerleaders on this forum...

    #27 Welcome back Danny, I was wondering where you'd gone =)

    #30 Don't worry Raul, I'm not trying to demean Cristinita by comparing her to Maggie, just winding up the Thatcherites - and it seems it worked =) And by calling her the people's iron lady (a British in joke on “people's princess” Diana) pointing out the key way she is different and better and indeed tougher than the class warrior for the rich who died on Monday

    #41 “Maggie did not opt for violence, death, colonialism & imperialism…. It was forced upon her”

    Poor thing!

    Apr 12th, 2013 - 09:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DanyBerger

    @British_Kirchnerist

    Thank you BK I was in Europe now i’m back like Exterminator. Ha ha

    Nice to read your post again : )

    SYL

    Apr 13th, 2013 - 04:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0

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