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US global spy dragnet and PRISM confirmed in narrow vote at the Lower House

Friday, July 26th 2013 - 05:48 UTC
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Michigan Republican Justin Amash, presented the bill to limit NSA surveillance  Michigan Republican Justin Amash, presented the bill to limit NSA surveillance

The US House of Representatives has narrowly voted to continue collecting data on US phone calls, in the first legislative move on the program. In a 205-217 vote, lawmakers rejected an effort to restrict the National Security Agency's (NSA) ability to collect electronic information.

The NSA chief had lobbied strongly against the proposed measure. The vote saw an unusual coalition of conservatives and liberal Democrats join forces against the programme.

The details of the NSA dragnet were made public by Edward Snowden, a former contractor for America's electronic spying agency. He is now a fugitive, seeking asylum in Moscow.

The rejected amendment would have blocked funding for the NSA program which gathers details of every call made by or to a US phone, unless the records were part of a specific investigation.

It was introduced by Michigan Republican Justin Amash, who warned during Wednesday's debate that the proposal's critics would “use the same tactic every government throughout history has used to justify its violation of rights: fear.

”They'll tell you that the government must violate the rights of the American people to protect us against those who hate our freedom.“

Despite the White House's lobbying against the amendment, a majority of House Democrats - 111 – voted for it. Eighty-three Democrats voted against. Among Republicans, 94 voted for the Amash amendment and 134 against.

Before Wednesday's vote there were fierce exchanges on the House floor during what was the first sustained legislative debate on the NSA reach since Mr Snowden's revelations.

”We've really gone overboard on the security side,“ said Democratic Representative Peter Welch of the surveillance, which is part of a classified 30bn dollars intelligence budget.

But others said the practice was essential in America's efforts against terrorism.

”Have 12 years gone by and our memories faded so badly that we forgot what happened on September 11?“ said Mike Rogers, the Republican chairman of the House intelligence committee.

Minnesota Representative Michele Bachmann, not usually noted for her support of President Obama, also backed the administration's stance. ”Let us not deal in false narratives,“ she said. ”Let's deal in facts that will keep Americans safe.“

But Republican Jim Sensenbrenner, one of the original authors of the Bush-era Patriot Act, said ”the time has come“ to stop harvesting phone records.

On the eve of the vote, in a rare statement against a legislative amendment, the White House called the Amash proposal a ”blunt approach” that would hamper US anti-terrorism efforts.

NSA director Gen Keith Alexander held separate, closed-door sessions with Republicans and Democrats on Tuesday to lobby them against the bill.

Another NSA surveillance program, Prism, allows the agency to sweep up global internet usage data through nine major US-based providers. The programs' supporters say such surveillance has helped thwart at least 50 terror plots in 20 countries, including up to a dozen directed at the US.

Divided opinion in the US about the snooping was highlighted by a CBS News poll on Wednesday: the survey found that 67% of Americans opposed the government's collection of phone records, but 52% said it was necessary to counter terrorism.
 

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  • A_Voice

    “NSA director Gen Keith Alexander held separate, closed-door sessions with Republicans and Democrats on Tuesday to lobby them against the bill.”

    That's how they got the result! I can imagine how that went........“We have been watching you for sometime Mr Anderson”

    Everyone has something they would not like to be made public........especially with all the data that has been collected.......
    .......“Your daughter seems to have a great fondness for..............”
    .......“Your wife really shouldn't say things like that, it could be construed as.........”

    “the survey found that 67% of Americans opposed the government's collection of phone records, but 52% said it was necessary to counter terrorism.”

    The vote hardly seems representative of Public opinion and it should unless.....
    NSA now probably have enough info on most of their politicians to control politics for the next decade.......or at least until a new breed that haven't been so careless with what they view...... and what they say....... and how they conduct their lives.
    .......The Land of the Free........

    Jul 26th, 2013 - 09:35 am 0
  • Heisenbergcontext

    @2A_Voice:

    Like the Matrix reference - made me giggle. The rest is amusing to contemplate but highly unlikely and, I believe, unnecessary. Anyway, applying your logic, they could have just as much on Alexander - rendering his leverage useless.

    Jul 26th, 2013 - 09:51 am 0
  • A_Voice

    @2 Heisenbergcontext
    Well you may be right........I probably do watch too many Hollywood movies, but still I do wonder what kind of pressure is applied behind closed doors.
    I would love to be a fly on the wall.......a little robotic one with live streaming.
    I thought it was only God that listened to everything I say!

    Jul 26th, 2013 - 10:37 am 0
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