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UK reaffirms support for Gibraltar; Picardo meets with PM Cameron and Hague
British Prime Minister David Cameron office has highlighted the significance of Chief Minister Fabian Picardo’s visit to No 10 Downing Street as an indication of the relationship and support of UK for Gibraltar. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rules'Setting up an anti-Gibraltar pow-wow'
Aug 28th, 2013 - 02:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0How pathetic.
Don't they realize that the right to self-determination is a basic human right?
Don't they remember that back in 2008, the UN Fourth Committee rejected the claim that a dispute over sovereignty could affect self-determination?
Fools.
Hope he was charged for two seats on the plane.....
Aug 28th, 2013 - 02:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ that the same as you'd need two seats for your double standards
Aug 28th, 2013 - 02:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0PP mayor, Francisco Perez Trigueros, posted a mock up picture of Gibraltar onto his Facebook page on August 17, sparking fury from local expats and Gibraltarians alike.
Aug 28th, 2013 - 02:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.chronicle.gi/headlines_details.php?id=30574
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spain and argentina
the evil twins of satan will get nothing..
In the next week or so the US, France and the UK may be firing missiles into Syria in response to the use of WMD on a civilian population. If Margallo thinks we will be getting hot and bothered over his primary school antics he is deluded.
Aug 28th, 2013 - 03:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Im surprised Spain has not complained to the UN that Britain is militarizing the Mediterranean…lol.
Aug 28th, 2013 - 03:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@A_Voice Only fat ass latinos get charged for two seats on aircraft
Aug 28th, 2013 - 03:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I,ve said this before,Gibraltar and Malvinas/Falklands are entitled to self determination but I think they must add some self help ,I suggest 3 years
Aug 28th, 2013 - 03:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0national service for every person between 18 and 45 and increased tax contribution to their protectors i.e. the hard pressed U.K. taxpayers,
Good relations with the new generations are essential for long term security
@ 3 slattzzz
Aug 28th, 2013 - 04:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Think_A_VoiceOverDover would need to charter his own flight for his multiple “personalities”.
@9 I know a 747 at that
Aug 28th, 2013 - 04:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 010 slattzzz
Aug 28th, 2013 - 04:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But do you think he would get his head through the door?
@2 A_Hole
Aug 28th, 2013 - 04:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Amazing comment!
Apparently some ugly scenes at the Frontier tonight with Spanish workers shouting insults and throwing stones at the Guardia Civil.
Aug 28th, 2013 - 05:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I can´t stand fat politicians!! yuk!! yuk!!
Aug 28th, 2013 - 05:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0hit the gym..picard..sweat a little..lazy bugger.
c130 maybe
Aug 28th, 2013 - 05:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@14 take it cfk's son not top of your list then he's fatter than NATO put together
I notice the handshake between the two on the photo is rather weak!!!
Aug 28th, 2013 - 05:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The body language is saying saying here..folks!!
Sunshine
Aug 28th, 2013 - 05:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The body language tells me that Spain has lost a few votes in its bid to get the Olympics.
The Rocks are still there.
Liar ©
*17 The majority of Spaniards do not want the Olympics!! You can have them!! You will be the country with two Olympics one after another.....
Aug 28th, 2013 - 05:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Good riddence of those silly games....useless like the UN.
@8 toxictaxitrader2 people like you really annoy me, we have had people from here fight in all the wars that Britain has been to including recent gulf wars, we have raised money, for instance in WW2 paid for a squadron of spitfires, which for a few thousand people, is not bad, also lost many soldiers in the world wars helping our motherland and the world.
Aug 28th, 2013 - 05:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sunshine
Aug 28th, 2013 - 05:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://elpais.com/elpais/2013/08/28/inenglish/1377706905_001037.html
Doesn't take long to mention Gibraltar.
Liar ©
*19 Your race seems to love wars by the looks of things!! is there any war you haven´t been in??!! I see your motherland is dying to kill Syrians without the UN approval!! How many children and women will you murder this time??!! and don´t give me this bull talk that there is a dictator in Syria...there are many dictators around the world and nobody does anything about it........
Aug 28th, 2013 - 05:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sunshine
Aug 28th, 2013 - 06:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“many dictators around the world and nobody does anything about it”
We know - that's why the BOT need UK defence. If there wasn't so many dictators, the territories could have complete independence.
Liar ©
@21
Aug 28th, 2013 - 06:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Your race seems to love wars by the looks of things!!” You do realise that Britons and Australians are genetically identical don't you? The vast Bulk of Australia's Fore Fathers originate from Britain.
The last time I checked Australia turned up for the Gulf War, Afghanistan, Iraq Libya and by the looks of things might join in with any possible Syrian intervention as well.
“How many children and women will you murder this time??!” Bit rich for an Aussie to complain about Colonialism, how do you think you fore fathers ended up in Oz? Did they fall out of the sky perhaps?
*22 hopeless arguement my dear lad!! Your country likes to pick and choose dictators at will and murder thousands at the same time........The war military multinationals can´t wait to try their toys on children and women and the innocent......
Aug 28th, 2013 - 06:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@24
Aug 28th, 2013 - 06:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Australia certainly didn't mind in the Gulf, Iraq, Afghan etc.
Sunshine
Aug 28th, 2013 - 06:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0History is not my strong point, but I cann't seem to remember the last time the UK had a military/Fascist dictator. I suppose you could say Oliver Cromwell / Commonwealth was a dictatorship. However before my time. On the other hand Spain and Argentina, where do I start. In the last 100 years who has killed most Spanish / Argentinians. The answer Spain and Argentina have killed most Spanish / Argentinian people.
*23 Maybe my forefathers never fell out of the sky as their was no need...
Aug 28th, 2013 - 06:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0An Australian is not just a Brit, there are many races down here including the Aboriginal....and not everybody follows the government blindly into war......
4 briton at least you cant say Arg and Spain arent creative. We dont go round there showing subs and militar vessels.
Aug 28th, 2013 - 06:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 026 Shouldnt in Syria do the same as in Gibraltar, just call the regional africa or miiddle east union to resolve this??
In Malvinas any conflict we can call Unasur now.
@27
Aug 28th, 2013 - 06:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Piss poor answer.
“An Australian is not just a Brit,”
So what are they then? Oh thats right transplanted Britons.
“there are many races down here including the Aboriginal..”
The way the Aboriginal community is treated in Oz Ia doubt that the Authorities even consider them Human let alone Australian.
..and not everybody follows the government blindly into war......“
The British people didn't the vast bulk have been against all these middle east interventions and conflicts from the start.
@28
”4 briton at least you cant say Arg and Spain arent creative. We dont go round there showing subs and militar vessels.“
What????
”26 Shouldnt in Syria do the same as in Gibraltar, just call the regional africa or miiddle east union to resolve this??“
Again What??? There isn't a Middle East union like the EU in any form.
”In Malvinas any conflict we can call Unasur now.”
Yeah sure try and invade and see how many of your so called friends follow you.......Oh thats right they won't.
@19 Falkland Islands
Aug 28th, 2013 - 06:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well done for your past effort but some would say that there was an element of self interest in the spitfires.if G.B. had lost to the Axis,how long before Argentina invaded?
What I am warning against is giving the appearance of not making an effort to help yourselves,in Britain today most people dont know where the Falklands are,(some think its in the Mediterranean near Cyprus.)
20 or 30 years from now with socialist government still struggling with debt(yes it will take that long to pay)you might not be a high priority,so do yourselves a favour with self help and public relations.
www.chris-floyd.com/War/pages/boy_fpg.htm
Aug 28th, 2013 - 06:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0*26 civil wars can erupt at any time for many reasons for Spain it was their turn in the 1930s. It could be for your country in the near future,,you have already had serious riots in the past who knows what is up ahead...
Malen
Aug 28th, 2013 - 07:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I have looked at the post in @4 and someting is wrong - the Spanish army is marching away from the Rock. This is the traditional Spanish way - march away from trouble.
Syria - I cann't comment because I don't understand your point. From what I gather most UK people don't want to get involved.
Falklands - call whoever you want, it doesn't alter anything. The FI aren't going to attack anyone.
Guys!
Aug 28th, 2013 - 07:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Aussie Sunshine is not Australian.
He has been here.
But he is a Spaniard and lives in Spain.
@33
Aug 28th, 2013 - 07:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thought as Much, he has that Spanish stupidity about him, especially when confronted with historical facts regarding Colonialism, something Hispanics can't seem to grasp.
Sunshine
Aug 28th, 2013 - 07:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Riots are not the same as civil wars/military dictatorships/fascist disctatorships.
Liar ©
Hey Skip
Aug 28th, 2013 - 07:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0How do you know that......has he said? When did he say that.....must be before my time or I missed it.
29 and 30 when I say conflict, its not talking on a militar way......just like the ones in Gibraltar, problems like there is a reef, check borders, etc but in Malvinas could be others.
Aug 28th, 2013 - 07:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0*32 “ march away from trouble” Do me a favour and do some serious reading....Here is a start.
Aug 28th, 2013 - 07:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0www.imgur.com/yoKwqin
Battle of Krasny Bor
Sunshine
Aug 28th, 2013 - 07:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0See the picture - it is fairly clear to me - they are marching away from the Rock - I can post a picture of Guernica if you want - of Hitlers Condor legion helping your lads. Re. Krasny Bor, the Spanish must be the only people proud of supporting the Nazis
malen - I am not on the Islands, but it seems fairly relaxed to me reading the posts etc. In fact from what I gather Chilians and other nationalities integrating well - apart from Argentinians
*33 You sound so pathetic!! Typical pom living down under!!
Aug 28th, 2013 - 07:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Did you urinate on the Ashes cricket pitch ,too??!! bloody disgraceful bast.....
*39 I am not interested who they fought with or for. I am only interested in the warrior not the politics.
www.modern-day-commando.com/Spanish-Marines.html
another history lesson.
Sunshine
Aug 28th, 2013 - 08:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Fo once I agree with you. The English players were a disgrace.
Alas back to normal.
Krasny Bor - the Spanish lost -let me quote you Patton
“The object of War is not to die for your country, but to make the other poor bastard die for his”
Liar ©
@40
Aug 28th, 2013 - 08:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No reply to my comments Fake - Aussie? Chicken shit.
here is another;
Aug 28th, 2013 - 08:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0www.mondediplo.com/2004/08/13spaniards
*41 The Spanish did not lose the battle of Krasney Bor...they held their ground against the Russians.
@43
Aug 28th, 2013 - 08:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They certainly held their ground during the Spanish Armada Battle.....oh no wait they ran away despite declaring themselves Invincible.
A_Voice
Aug 28th, 2013 - 08:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0He has never claimed to be Australian. Ask him!
He has stated that he lived (past tense) in Melbourne. Ask him!
He has stated that he currently lives in Spain. Ask him!
A_Voice you spend hundreds of posts trying to disprove where someone lives but seem to take another poster at face value because of the name he uses.
Aussie Sunshine is very careful with what he claims and I will tell you again. He doesn't claim to be Australian. He doesn't claim to live in Australia.
So yes I would say you missed it. Only you seem surprised!
9 Condorito
Aug 28th, 2013 - 10:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Do English servants pay their own fee?
@21 No - we like treaties
Aug 29th, 2013 - 05:58 am - Link - Report abuse 01713 Treaty of Utrech - Gibraltar ceded to Britain
1850 Southern-Arana Treaty - state of “perfect friendship” (ie no outstanding disputes) between UK and Argentina
I suspect that the ICJ likes treaties too!
Steveu
Aug 29th, 2013 - 06:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0PMSL!
Sunshine
Aug 29th, 2013 - 06:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0Didn't USSR eventually rout the axis on the Eastern Front?
30 toxictaxitrader2 (#) I'm not sure what you are getting at, UK only pays for defence, we pay for everything else, and when oil is on the scene, we will pay for defence and probably more. The UK taxpayer is not keeping us if that's what you think.
Aug 29th, 2013 - 06:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0@28 Actually, Arg and Spain do go around showing military vessels. You can call unasur by all means. With what result? All 12 members? And what are these “peaceful” countries going to do?
Aug 29th, 2013 - 07:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0@37 The artificial reef is not a “problem”. It is in BGTW. Spain “claims” the waters. Problem is that, just as argieland's “claim” to the Falklands is a lie, Spain's “claim” to the waters is a lie. It says no Gibraltar territorial waters were specified in the Treaty of Utrecht. Not surprising. There was no international agreement or law on “territorial waters” in 1713. And the treaty doesn't mention Spanish territorial waters either!
45
Aug 29th, 2013 - 09:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0.......but I'm asking you Skip, you have stated he has said that he lives in Spain, three times now.
Where and when did he say that.....I've never seen that......
You always pull out the relevant thread......like when he first posted......why not now?
A_Voice
Aug 29th, 2013 - 10:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0According to you Aussie_Sunshine is my sockpuppet.
“Great performance Anglotino......how many puppets was that?
John Pope.....True Blue....Aussie Sunshine......well done!
They disappear for how long until it's showtime for you.....great finale.
Even got one to verify you and give you praise......you are one crazy kid that's for sure.....I know you like self praise don't you?
BTW... True Blue's English is flawed.....as yours is!....Coincidently!
....Not that you would notice, but I do.”
http://en.mercopress.com/2013/08/10/rajoy-calls-for-four-flag-dialogue-on-gibraltar-and-does-not-discard-unilateral-measures#comment269112
Supposedly I used Aussie_sunshine to verify my location and give me praise.
Now if you are right:
Aussie_Sunshine would have stated he is Spanish OR would do so any moment now.
But if you are wrong.....
Were you wrong A_Voice?
Did your amazing deductive abilities get it wrong?
Tell me if you were right or wrong and I'll give you the answer!
53
Aug 29th, 2013 - 10:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0Nice try at deflecting Skip.......there is no right or wrong in this case.....
I don't know if Aussie has stated that he lives in Spain.....he may have, I'm saying I have never seen it.......but apparently only you have or only you remember.....
As you are so good at pulling up these past posts......why not humour me and pull up the one you are referring to......that's all......I'm curious....
.......You are appearing a little smug so maybe you have already found it.
.......“When did he say that.....must be before my time or I missed it.”......is all I originally asked......not a deduction......not an accusation......no right or wrong about it.;-)
ToxicT- post 1982 we have a very efficient TA type unit that trains and exercises with the British Army units here - and frequently beats them in competitions. It also usually acts as the “attacker” in miltary exercises revolving around defence of the airbase.
Aug 29th, 2013 - 01:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0FI Govt contributes approx £0.25 million a year to the base in the form of houses we build there and other areas. Also Islanders are always there whenever 1982 veterans vist to welcome them into their homes and show them around the Islands etc etc.Br Forces are also exempt for veh licence fees etc here.Workers that MOD has to bring into the base from overseas are exempt from local income tax etc - thus reducing employment costs for the MOD.
So on a percapita basis our 3000 contributes its fair share.
When oilrevenues start to flow ina few years time it is commonly and widely accepted that we will channel a large chunk of that into paying for the cost of defence provided by Br forces.
55
Aug 29th, 2013 - 01:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0......so you like playing with figures.....this is an interesting article about costs, ending with this summary......
“A major problem with the referendum is that the wrong question is being asked. Furthermore it is being asked of the wrong people. The Falkland Islanders should not be asked if they wish to be considered British or Argentinian. Instead UK taxpayers should be asked if they want to continue funding every family on the Falkland Islands to the tune of almost £92,000 every year.”
http://newsjunkiepost.com/2013/01/05/las-malvinas-or-the-falkland-islands-the-ugly-face-of-british-imperialism-and-its-startling-cost/
@56 I read that article. I nice bunch of half-truths. Let's start with the “free gifts”. Britain is responsible for the defence of every BOT. Why single out the Falklands? Actually, the Islands wouldn't cost anywhere near as much except for.......argieland. “Argieland.........long claimed sovereignty over what it calls the Malvinas. An invalid and illegal claim. ”it does not take into account the interests of Argentina“ Argieland has no valid ”interests“. ”diversionary tactic to stop the UK from engaging in pre-agreed talks between the UK and Argentina“ There are no such ”talks“. Moving on to his financial ”argument“, I am a UK taxpayer and I don't have a problem. Especially as Goss fails to mention that that money would be spent anyway. It's part of the defence budget. Incidentally, Goss claims he's from Britain. We don't spell ”checkbook“ like that. ”Countries which have laid claims to the Falkland Islands and raised their standards there are: France (1764), Britain (1765-76), Spain (1767-1811)“ Whoops, another cock-up. Britain DISCOVERED the Islands in 1690. And Spain ”tried“ in 1770 and got knocked back. ”Argentina had the best legal case and several times tried to establish its claims under international law“ Explaining why it has refused to go to the ICJ three times out of three. ”the limit set by UNCLOS for the exclusive economic zone was ignored by the UK armed forces when the General Belgrano was destroyed outside the Falkland Islands exclusive economic zone” This is a classic. In 1982, it was referred to as the Total Exclusion Zone. In addition, argieland was warned, via the Swiss Embassy, on 23 April that any argie ship or aircraft considered to be a threat would be attacked. And, between 1994 and 2005, the argie Defense Ministry, the captain of the Belgrano and the head of the argie navy all said that the sinking was a legal act of war.
Aug 29th, 2013 - 02:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0See just how little Goss knows!
@36.
Aug 29th, 2013 - 02:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0John Goss that well respected international reporter.
“An authority on 18th century English novelist Robert Bage. Recent political injustices have channeled his writing in an unexpected direction. He has a strong interest in handmade paper. ”
He should stick to subjects he knows about, Robert Bage and tales about Carthage and the Hesperides.
He admits that his article is based on what he has read in the Guardian.
http://johngossip.blogspot.co.uk/2013/01/the-cost-of-maintaining-falklands.html
AVoice - love to know where the £92,00 is calculated from? For your info - if the Falklands became Argieland tomorrow (hey I am fantasising now!!)
Aug 29th, 2013 - 03:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0the only Defence cost saving to the Britain would be in the aircharterflight costs of the twice a week flight down here.
Those service personel would still need to be paid- housed-clothed- fed- trained -exercised etc etc. AND UK would loose a remote but vaulable tri-service training area where al 3 services can combine and use live ammunition in an area where, due to its remoteness there is no problem with the resident human population.
More than one army commander says they can do more REAL training in 6 weeks here than they can do in 6 years in UK or West Europe
28 malen (#)
Aug 29th, 2013 - 03:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 04 briton at least you cant say Arg and Spain arent creative. We dont go round there showing subs and militar vessels
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Ah, but you would if you could,
You can’t so you don’t..lol
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Sunshine is not Australian,
He merely comes from earth.
lol
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@ 54 you always seem to forget incidents when you get shot down in shit................spooky old thing eh
Aug 29th, 2013 - 04:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A_hole
Aug 29th, 2013 - 05:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So by your logic, Spain, Portugal, Greece, Cyprus, Ireland should have no vote/election as Germany pays all the bills. Only Germans should vote.
What an A_Hole.
......did I miss something there, was that a quantum leap....WTF are you talking about?
Aug 29th, 2013 - 05:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Since when does Germany pay all the bills........don't reply and stay off those mushrooms.....or away from the Pub......you are dismissed...
@54 A_Voice
Aug 29th, 2013 - 05:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Fact 1
You clearly state that Aussie_Sunshine is my sock puppet.
Fact 2
I clearly state Aussie_Sunshine says he's from Spain.
Fact 1 + Fact 2 = Fact 3
Fact 3
I'm right.
Unless one of the variables is wrong.
But as per usual you have done what I needed you to do.
You spend an inordinate amount of time analysing the minutiae of what people write; dissecting the use of words and phrases; and attacking their vocabulary and spelling.
But you have failed to bring the same standard to Aussie_Sunshine.
Why's that?
Why do you operate a double standard?
Now, would you like to reconsider your claim that Aussie_Sunshine is my sockpuppet? Or won't your ego permit that?
Anglotino has left the building (time to go to work!)
A_Hole
Aug 29th, 2013 - 05:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0”Instead UK taxpayers should be asked if they want to continue funding every family on the Falkland Islands to the tune of almost £92,000 every year.”
So as Germans bail out countries, they should be asked whether they want to continue. And as your logic goes, bail out countries should not be asked via elections.
65
Aug 29th, 2013 - 06:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I told you .....that you were dismissed........
Firstly it wasn't my comment......it was a quote.
Secondly it's not Germany alone that contribute to Bail-Outs so your comment doesn't make any sense........now get to bed and stay off the beer!
64
What ego?
I'm not 100% about Aussie being your Sock Puppet as I am the others......so why not pull up the post for me......anyway?......
I can tell you have gone into Smug mode .....ya know!
A_Hole
Aug 29th, 2013 - 06:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0CiF as is mine.
“not Germany alone” - Ok 99% is German money.
As Islander1(@59) said - Agreed.
@66 A_Voice
Aug 29th, 2013 - 07:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You mean to tell me after all these months that you have only now realised I reply to you in “smug mode”? You never exceed my expectations of you.
“Ya know” you can’t remove posts which is always the best part about Mercopress.
“I'm not 100% about Aussie being your Sock Puppet as I am the others”
Are you sure?
http://en.mercopress.com/2013/08/10/rajoy-calls-for-four-flag-dialogue-on-gibraltar-and-does-not-discard-unilateral-measures
Comment 217 to me - Aug 16th, 2013 - 04:28 pm
“Great performance Anglotino......how many puppets was that?
John Pope.....True Blue....Aussie Sunshine......well done!”
Comment 219 to Aussie - Aug 16th, 2013 - 06:26 pm
“Give it a rest puppet.....”
Comment 221 to Aussie - Aug 16th, 2013 - 06:30 pm
“I don't think who you are......I know who you are.....puppet!”
Emphasis on KNOW – no equivocation here.
Comment 228 to Aussie - Aug 16th, 2013 - 06:58 pm
“Enjoy your short life while you can you will eventually be destined for the shelf....with the others, then only brought out occasionally!”
Comment 247 to me - Aug 17th, 2013 – 11.09 am
“What are the odds of three puppets and one master making the same basic primary school mistake, on the same thread and all claiming to be from Australia?”
Now that is interesting if suddenly there is a chance that Aussie_sunshine isn’t my sockpuppet. What are the chance of the “same basic primary school mistake” – I would say not very high A_Voice…. not very high at all. Care to qualify this remark?
Comment 257 to Troy Temptest - Aug 17th, 2013 – 01.58 pm
“Then a post to the puppet Aussie Sunshine”
And here you are more recently:
http://en.mercopress.com/2013/08/10/rajoy-calls-for-four-flag-dialogue-on-gibraltar-and-does-not-discard-unilateral-measures
“Why would you immediately assume they were a sock puppet.....do you know something we don't?”
But now you’re “not 100%”!
Well I guess I’m not 100% that Aussie_sunshine said he lives in Spain.
So easily manipulated Skip.......ha ha of course you keep a note of all your sock puppet posts.......that's how you quickly pulled up Aussies first post.....how could you have searched at least a years worth of threads?........because you knew!
Aug 29th, 2013 - 08:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I like lulling you into a false sense of security.......I play you like a fish.......hoho Smug mode....as if!
There's only one of us that is Smug Skip......a clue is .....it's not you
Of course you are Aussie Sunshine......;-))))))
56
Aug 29th, 2013 - 09:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“A major problem with the referendum is that the wrong question is being asked. Furthermore it is being asked of the wrong people. The Falkland Islanders should not be asked if they wish to be considered British or Argentinian. Instead UK taxpayers should be asked if they want to continue funding every family on the Falkland Islands to the tune of almost £92,000 every year“
That John Goss sounds a lot like... ”Dame Dover“.
And Dame Dover is of course, Think.
And A_Voice talks like think - a few commonalities of speech and insults.
Anglotino - could this be a clue as to what is really in the ”sock drawer”??
Just a thought
Oh yes A_Voice you have totally manipulated me into...... actually what have you manipulated me into doing?
Aug 29th, 2013 - 10:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It isn't me that is posting time after time and looking bad.
But if you wish to believe I keep notes, then that is fine by me. You give me a little too much credit. But I will take that compliment.
“that's how you quickly pulled up Aussies first post”
Huh? Been drinking again? Aussie_sunshine's first post was back on 25th February 2012...... EIGHTEEN MONTHS AGO. Where did I pull it up?
I've already told you this once before but in your rush to gloat you keep missing vitally important pieces of information:
Aussie_sunshine's first post – 25th February 2012
http://en.mercopress.com/2012/02/24/spain-trusts-gibraltar-and-malvinas-cases-will-be-addressed-at-next-un-general-assembly#comment95141
My first post – 17th December 2012:
http://en.mercopress.com/2012/02/24/spain-trusts-gibraltar-and-malvinas-cases-will-be-addressed-at-next-un-general-assembly#comment95141
Your first post – 29th May 2013:
http://en.mercopress.com/2012/02/24/spain-trusts-gibraltar-and-malvinas-cases-will-be-addressed-at-next-un-general-assembly#comment95141
It’s called GOOGLE mate. Not that difficult to use.
“There's only one of us that is Smug Skip......a clue is .....it's not you”
Oh? So now I’m not smug?
But just a few hours ago you said:
“I can tell you have gone into Smug mode”
So which is it?
Am I smug?
Or aren’t I?
Was I smug then but aren’t now?
Because I really do think that I’m coming across as insufferably smug at this exact moment.
Anyway, now that you have lulled me “into a false sense of security” you will obviously perform the coup de grâce or have you left the building already and will forget next time?
And now that I am Aussie_sunshine again, I hereby declare that he lives in Spain.
Which means your post @36 – 27 hours ago – was posted for no reason at all other than to prove you have no idea what you post.
Whose fishing now mate?
Anglotino
Aug 29th, 2013 - 10:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A_ThinkVoiceOver knows all about keeping track of posts, at least those of the Yanks and Brit-types like me and especially yourself, who holds a special place on his MT 'Multi-Troll' Database.
I enjoy his tired old fallback ploy - when painted into a corner, it's always, “ ha ha, you took the bait”, “ ha ha, I meant you to do that”, “ that was my plan all along”, or “ I wasn't really trying”
A_Schmuck is so arrogant that he has become plain lazy that
he's not worth the time or effort of a response.
@72 Troy Tempest
Aug 30th, 2013 - 08:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0Agreed. A_Voice holds everyone to a standard that he refuses to submit himself to. But then that is not surprising. Neither is it surprising that he ignores the glaringly obvious.
But supposedly he has me right where he wants me all the time and yet still feels the need to come back for more.
Not sure what he thought he proved on this thread but he seems pretty chuffed with himself. Blind Freddie could see that Aussie_sunshine's native language isn't English.
All except A_Voice it would seem.
Nice that he was so kind to show us his cognitive abilities. Who took the bait?
Anglotino
Aug 30th, 2013 - 10:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0I really 'think' that A_ThinkVoiceOver has a quota of threads and posts that he must troll.
These current issues and articles are mostly focused on positive Falklands diplomacy and economic forecasts, while any mention of Argentina concerns corruption and the visibly failing economy.
He has become lazy and is not really able to refute anything. He's resorted to being mealy-mouthed and insulting, but nothing of substance - really half-hearted overall.
I predict that one of his next retorts will be, “ I expended very little effort and had all you puppets jumping” or something to that effect, while ignoring that he lost the argument.
I think that puppet is going “back on the shelf” pretty soon.
:-D
After getting back from sunny Spain, I must say Cameron is an incompetent fool. Moaning about wanting to waste missiles on a country in civil war where neither side have any love for the UK or even democracy, while Spanish paramilitary divers enter British territory unchallenged at will.
Aug 30th, 2013 - 12:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If Cameron is not going to take this seige-lite of Gibraltar seriously, then I wish he would at least do something about the counterfeit and substandard goods flooding the UK via tourists coming back from Spain. Hand search every bag for dodgy laser pens and football strips, etc...and if the queues get too long (6hours say) then just take on more staff (and introduce a congestion tax to cover the costs). If tourists don't like it they can book up for somewhere else next year.
Couldn't help but notice the huge increase in Chinese ran businesses while I was there: easily a third in some areas from practically nothing only 12 months ago. No wonder Spanish unemployment is so high. Who would have thought the Spanish right wing would take their eye off the ball in such spectacular style?
*73 My native language is not English!? ):
Aug 30th, 2013 - 06:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0pull the other one..LOL.
75* seige??!! LOL ..Are you sure you´ve been in Spain or Colombia!!
but I see you support a congestion tax as you would love to see it introduced in the UK...great.. and leave the Chinese community in peace..they know very well where to invest, they are not silly..):
@76 aussie sunshine: “leave the Chinese community in peace..they know very well where to invest, they are not silly”
Aug 30th, 2013 - 07:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I did leave the Chinese in peace...after having a chuckle at their counterfeit tat. Of an even lower standard than the tat the Spaniards were selling in the very same shops 12 months ago.
You are right that the Chinese are not silly in where to invest though...they would not last long trying to sell fake Omega/Breitling watches on the highstreets of UK towns at £15 a go.
Aussie_sunshine
Aug 30th, 2013 - 09:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It is clearly obvious to any native English speaker that you aren't.
Perhaps you should ask yourself why you're so ashamed of your own heritage.
ai spik veri gud inglis tan yu!!!! ai spik di kuins inglis..
Aug 31st, 2013 - 07:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0For: 40 aussie sunshine and cohorts:
Aug 31st, 2013 - 08:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0Given that you’re so obviously just another nonsense spouting, bigmouthed, frantically flag-waving, ULTRA HISPANO-PATRIOT PROPAGANDIST –hiding behind a stupid pseudonym– I wonder why you elect to live in such a DEMOCRATIC, QUINTESSENTIALLY ANGLO-SAXON SOCIETY? Why not have the COJONES to come back here to Spain and contribute something to your country of origin? No offence, Mate! My wife is a Spaniard and my 4 children and 3 grandchildren are mongrels...
But if you were to come back to your homeland, you’d have to make a few PRACTICAL SACRIFICES –such as a severe decline in your standard of living and having to endure the daily irritations of life in a country incompetently ruled by incorrigible crooks, who are now desperately trying mask their manifest and manifold misdemeanours, by alleging mass contraband via Gibraltar. There is much more smuggling between Spain and Andorra (a no VAT territory too) and between Spain and Portugal but Spain’s current pseudo-Fascist government chooses to try to hide this fact, for reasons of blatant self-interest.
Finally, how many of you know that Portugal has a legitimate claim for the return from Spain of its captured city of Olivença (Olivenza) which dates back to the end of the Luso-Hispanic ‘War of the Oranges’, in 1801??? –the Spanish government of the day reneged on its peace treaty obligations and has continued to do so to this very day...
Cheers!
Jim Handley, in Madrid.
My !! you are living in the wrong country! you should come to Melbourne which was voted last week the best living city IN THE WORLD!! The government has opened up immigration..think about it.
Aug 31st, 2013 - 08:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0olivenza who??
For: 81 aussie sunshine.
Aug 31st, 2013 - 03:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Re: olivenza who??
Olivenza is the Castilian name for Olivença, the Portuguese city and its environs, which were captured by Spanish Forces during the briefly fought ‘War of the Oranges’ in 1801. During that war, the Portuguese army also took several places from Spain. On concluding a peace treaty, the two erstwhile belligerent parties agreed to restitute all captured territory to its original sovereignty. The Lusitanian monarch kept his word. But his Spanish counterpart did not, hanging on to Olivença, ‘cos –with its richly ornate ancient cathedral, fertile lands, cork producing woodlands, et cetera– he presumably saw it as a too highly valuable bit of real-estate to give-up. Anyway, the dispute over Olivença has been a hindrance to really good Hispano- Lusitanian relations, ever since.
Fairly recently, there was a bilateral, intergovernmental move to restore the long-time derelict bridge, which spans the river separating the so-called ‘Spanish Olivença’ from ‘Portugal proper’. But the project so outraged Lusitanian public opinion, that it was quietly dropped.
Of course, in spite of its highly illustrious history –especially in matters of navigation, exploration and global discovery– Portugal is a small nation, which holds little interest for the big-time, Capitalistic Media Moguls and their political hirelings –so one hears little news from the ‘Cradle of the Fado’ and also by the way, Britain’s oldest ally, by virtue of a treaty signed more than 400 years’ ago...
Incidentally, the ‘War of the Oranges’ was given that name by Spanish historians ‘cos one of the officers who served with the Spaniards was also the Spanish queen’s clandestine lover. Apparently, he would occasionally manage to escape back to Madrid, taking with him baskets of oranges for his regal paramour –obviously NOT the only juicy fruit they mutually enjoyed during her swain’s visits! And curiously, the Spanish commanding general was so old and infirm; that he directe
*82 did they take the matter to the UN? No. Therefore the Portuguese have no claim on Olivenza.
Aug 31st, 2013 - 04:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0www.theguardian.com/world//2007/jul/17/books.spain
This is what the nobel Portuguese writer says about Portugal and Spain.
The two countries are closer than ever!! Olivenza is history..
For: 81 aussie sunshine & 83 aussie sunshine.
Sep 01st, 2013 - 06:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0Re: olivenza who?? (2nd Part)
First, please see the truncated part of my previous message:
Regarding your reference to the view expressed by the Portuguese Noble Literature Laureate, I’m unable to access the relevant “Guardian” Webpage. Nevertheless, I assume you refer to the recently demised fellow who lived in Spain (Canary Islands) was –like me– married to a Spaniard and would of course, have found it commercially advantageous to curry popular favour in his country of residence. In any event, HE WAS JUST ONE MAN who patently MISREPRESENTED Portuguese public opinion.
As we’ve just witnessed in London and subsequently in Washington, the high-sounding rhetoric of The Establishment’s “luminaries” seldom echoes the clamour for commonsense coming from the “great unwashed”.
Re: the U.N. Please don’t make me laugh, Mate!. Like the E.U., it’s just another ineffective talk box who’s lavishly remunerated bigwigs are of little real help to the world’s truly oppressed.
Cheers!
Jim Handley, in Madrid.
*84 The Portuguese writer I am refering to is Jose Saramago:
Sep 01st, 2013 - 12:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Here is a newspaper article in Spanish where the Portuguese town of
Valença do Minho wants to become Spanish and breakaway from
Portugal and where 40% of The Portuguese would love to form a Federal state with Spain.
www.bbc.co.uk/mundo/cultura_sociedad/2010/04/100415_2055_españoles_portugueses_gm.shtml
85 aussie sunshine
Sep 02nd, 2013 - 06:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0You’re right. José Saramago WAS the Nobel laureate –his name had slipped my mind.
Re:
I can’t access the relevant BBC Webpage. But I do vaguely recall reports of the matter, at the time; which was mooted BEFORE international capitalism’s EU AND OTHER SWINDLES were exposed as the moral frauds they truly are. Furthermore, at the time in question, the people of that ONE town USED to get many free spending Spanish tourists.
One should never take media reports at face value.
All newspapers and whatnot are controlled by ‘interest groups’, keen to twist ‘apparent truths’ into ‘spin’ and pure propaganda.
Of course, there IS a movement to unite northern Portugal and the adjacent regions of northern Spain, Asturias and Galicia. In Roman times, these three regions comprised the province of Lusitania, which was inhabited by Celtic tribes who were ethnically different from the peoples of other Hispanic provinces.
However, kindly note that the current ‘Celtic’ initiative, driven by shared culture and language, seeks a ‘New Lusitania’, independent of both Portugal and Spain.
Cheers!
Jim, in Madrid.
*86 Let´s see if thge bbc web page works!! here we go
Sep 02nd, 2013 - 11:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0www.bbc.uk/nundo/cultura_sociedad/2014/04/100_415-2055_españoles_portugueses_gm_shtml.
Yes, Galicia does have the closest heritage to Northern Portugal.
Lusitania was not made up by Galicia,Asturias and Northern Portugal.It was made up byf the Region of Extremadura in Spain and Southern Portugal.
Regards.
To: 87 aussie sunshine
Sep 02nd, 2013 - 01:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Re:
You’re wrong. I’m right!!!
See Sites such as:
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Lusitanian
Re: .
Wrong again!!!. The region to which you refer comprised the historically much later, MOORISH CALIPHATE of EL ADALUS.>>
Although my daytime job was that of a physicist specializing in electronics –merely as matter of interest– in my spare time, I studied Hispanic Culture under a university professor who was a native Spaniard. And I did so probably before you were born, Mate!!!
So given that the gist of this ‘polemic’ has drifted way ‘off topic’, perhaps we both ought to shut up.
Cheers!
Jim, in Madrid.
*88 www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lusitania
Sep 02nd, 2013 - 02:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Lusitania was a Roman province its capita Emirita
Jim
Sep 02nd, 2013 - 04:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Despite your credentials, there is no way you can Ozzie and Wikidemia.
“Ozzie, being an 'Australian', I don't know how he would 'know' so much about Spain, whereas you live and studied there.
Painted yourself into a corner, didn't you, ”Ozzie”??
Now there's a coincidence both claim to have a Spanish wife and getting on like a house on fire......did you say you were an Englishman living in Spain or you were a Brit living in Spain.....Jim?
Sep 02nd, 2013 - 05:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Aussie sunshine
Sep 02nd, 2013 - 05:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You seemed to have missed my multiple posts on this so ill repeat it here just in case!
You can prove conclusively that you are currently living in Melbourne.
Up for the challenge or will you ignore it, deflect from it, fudge it or just plain run away?
Here's your chance to prove me wrong. A_Voice, Think, Stevie, Nostrils would jump at this chance and I'm handing it to you on a platter.
To: 90 Troy Tempest
Sep 02nd, 2013 - 06:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thanks for your comprehension, ol’ fruit.
Perhaps my problem is that I’ve REALLY SEEN far too many friggin’ places AT FIRST HAND.
Having started out as a 14 years’old boy soldier, I subsequently found myself serving as a frontline British signals liaison officer with the Royal Australian Regt –and forging lifelong friendships with some of its members– during the Korean War. After leaving the army, I worked as an engineer for an international broadcaster –a job that took me to many weird and wonderful places, such as the exploited, poverty stricken former British and French colonies in West Africa –the place where I developed my perhaps hyperactive social scruples.
Reading between the lines, I reckon Aussie Sunshine is a descendant of one of the many penniless Spaniards, who –some 40 or 50 years’ ago– emigrated to Oz, to better their lot. AND GOOD ON ‘EM for having done so!!!
If you recall, Aussie S. suggested that I join him in Melbourne, to enjoy the ‘good life’ under the abundant sunshine. However, from what I recall of the place, its inhabitants made a particular point of telling me that it’s the country’s WETTEST place.
What makes me so angry with this Group is that it’s become merely a vehicle for a plethora of abusive nonsense, mainly based on abject ignorance mouthed by of minority of moronic bloody cretins.
Cheers!
Jim, in Madrid.
93 Jim Handley
Sep 02nd, 2013 - 06:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“What makes me so angry with this Group is that it’s become merely a vehicle for a plethora of abusive nonsense, mainly based on abject ignorance mouthed by of minority of moronic bloody cretins.”
Good of you to speak up Jim.
People like you are needed to refute their statements.
As ignorant as they are, many times they'll try to slip one by as fact, just hoping that the majority of readers are not informed.
Given the number of subjects, nationalities, and histories covered here, a Troll with a superficial gleaning from Wikidemia, can often sound convincing at first.
Especially if nobody challenges them.
Cheers,
Troy in Canada
*93 abundant sunshine?? Are you trying to put words in my mouth??!!
Sep 02nd, 2013 - 07:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I said MelBourne WAS VOTED THE BEST CITY TO LIVE IN THE WORLD..
PUT YOUR GLASSES ON OLD TIMER!!!
Ozzie
Sep 02nd, 2013 - 09:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What about Lusitania?
Or did Jim torpedo you good??
Uruguay, Argentinas most prosperous province.
Sep 03rd, 2013 - 02:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Shame they do not know it!
Jim
Sep 03rd, 2013 - 05:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Aussie sunshine isn't Australian and doesn't live here. You have him back in Spain.
Oh and Sydney is wetter than Melbourne.
bird brain again!! This guy is like a dogger or what!? LOL
Sep 03rd, 2013 - 07:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Can someone please translate “dogger” for me!
Sep 03rd, 2013 - 10:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Actually has anyone ever heard this word before today?
* 100 oh dear !!I knew you were not an aussie!! I smelt you a mile away!!
Sep 04th, 2013 - 08:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0Having travelled much around Australia,have you??!! well, Up
North they have dingo hunters, and this professionals are called
DOGGERS..but you wouldn´t know because you probably have never left your Suburb home in Melbourne and would know nothing of THE REAL AUSTRALIA!!! would you??
remember the real Australia is far away from your suburb home in Melbourne...Travel THE REAL AUSTRALIA and meet the real AUSSIES and LEARN THE SLANG.....This is really such a sticky wicket.....
*yawn
Sep 04th, 2013 - 09:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0*102 LOL LOL ...“aussie” LOL LOL
Sep 04th, 2013 - 09:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0www.lasseteria.com/cyclopedia/76.HTM
back on the shelf with you, Troll
Sep 04th, 2013 - 10:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0your usefulness is finished
OMG Aussie Sunshine I never knew it was possible for someone to keep failing on so many levels.
Sep 04th, 2013 - 06:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thank you for the link to writings from 1930. How gracious of you to support yourself with something from over EIGHTY years ago.
Unfortunately for you, a 'dogger' has a different connotation now. Which is why I asked “Can someone please translate “dogger” for me!”
Because you either just accused me of wanting to watch you have sex in public! Or you just accused me of having sex in public.
When I asked if ”anyone ever heard this word before today?” I was wondering if anyone else had got the connotation that you just insinuated.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dogging_(sexual_slang)
You continually use words that you may have once said or heard but without using them correctly. It is quite amusing.
If you had meant to say “is this guy dogging ME or what” then it would have a totally different meaning. It would mean that I was hounding you or following you. If I was dogging with you that would have a totally different meaning. Amazing how a reflexive verb can change the whole meaning.
Which is probably what your brain half remembered from your time of living in Melbourne. However half remembering some slang doesn’t mean you live it.
So yes I am DOGGING you!
But no, I am not a DOGGER. Nor do I wish to watch you DOGGING!
So your posts are awarded a gold star FAIL! You are actually making my job easier!
Who's laughing now? Everyone at you methinks!
Ozzie
Sep 04th, 2013 - 09:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'M LAUGHING AT YOU!!
Ja ja ja ja ja ja ja ja.......................... !!!
Do you see why I can't resist Troy?
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