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Argentina’s squid fisheries policy “inconsistent and unsustainable” says expert

Tuesday, October 1st 2013 - 20:40 UTC
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Argentina’s latest government’s decisions on squid fishing show that the country’s fisheries policy is “inconsistent and unsustainable,” according to the president of Assistance Food Argentina SA and director of Assistance Food America Inc., Dr. Cesar Augusto Lerena. Read full article

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  • CaptainSilver

    I can just hear the RGs now - “lend us a few squid”

    Oct 01st, 2013 - 09:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    What's a couple of squid between friends?

    Oct 01st, 2013 - 09:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pugol-H

    Here’s that sick squid I owe you. Cheers.

    Oct 01st, 2013 - 10:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • El capitano

    There is NO such sea as the Argentine Sea...The bottom line here is that Arjuntina really could'nt give a rats ass with concern for the Illex biomass...They are interested in quick $$s...and making sure that China regards them as a freind....Then again i guess Arjuntina needs a friend these days...

    Oct 01st, 2013 - 10:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Truth PaTroll

    @4

    Wah! Wah! Wah! “No thing as the Argentine Sea” Wah! Wah! Wah!

    But there is, not only politically, but geologically, and even biologically. As any geographer, geologist, or marine biologist. They all call the ATLANTIC OCEAN that sits over the continental shelf of Argentina “the Argentine Sea”. Because in all three areas it has specific qualities different from the open Atlantic Ocean.

    Wah Wah Wah.

    And even if none of that were the case, WE call it the Argentine sea. And WE have 200 kilometer zone of EEZ. So just out of respect you would call it what the people that live there call it...

    Isn't that what you accuse argies of doing when they don't name the Falklands the Falklands? Yet you do the same thing? LOL. As I've always said, British Hypocrisy is a tautology.

    Oct 02nd, 2013 - 02:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LEPRecon

    Tobias.

    You can call it what you like, but no one else recognises it, and calls it the Atlantic, and therefore won't recognise the term if Argentina tries to use it internationally.

    It must REALLY eat at your gut when more nations recognise the newly named Queen Elizabeth Land (formerly British Antarctic Territory), than recognises the 'Argentine Sea'.

    Poor, ineffective, anonymous, unimportant Argentina.

    But as you always say (from the safety of Canada): Argentina doesn't need anyone! Wah! Wah! Wah!

    As for the squid. What will Argentina do once you've destroyed the fishing stocks?

    Oh, that's right. Starve.

    Oct 02nd, 2013 - 05:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Gordo1

    I understand from Argentine friends that fish and other creatures from the sea are not really appreciated as part of the national diet in their country.

    Is this true?

    Oct 02nd, 2013 - 06:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Britworker

    This applies to everything, not just bloody squid. Until Argentina accepts that the Falkland Islanders are there to stay and they have equal human rights to peacefully co-exist, then there will be continually a long list of issues that suffer due to a lack of cooperation.

    But when you have a government that is riddled with bitterness, anger and greed, then logic won't prevail.

    Oct 02nd, 2013 - 07:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Steve-33-uk

    'Falklands Tax Dispute Clouding Oil Dream for Investors: Energy - Fourteen years after the first well was sunk off the Falkland Islands, a tax dispute is making the British territory’s 2,563 residents wait longer to start collecting their first oil royalties, estimated at $10 billion.'
    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-10-01/falklands-tax-dispute-clouding-oil-dream-for-investors-energy.html

    'South Atlantic fish resources at risk from warmer climate'
    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-10-01/falklands-tax-dispute-clouding-oil-dream-for-investors-energy.html

    'How US Diplomats Keep the Peace in Asia ~ ...A report emerged over the weekend that the United States may have inadvertently green-lit the 1982 Falklands War by sending overly positive signals to the Argentine junta. These signals (based on US appreciation for Argentine anti-communist efforts) may have led the Argentines to believe that the U.S. would support its invasion, or at least not lend significant assistance to the United Kingdom in the ensuing war...'
    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-10-01/falklands-tax-dispute-clouding-oil-dream-for-investors-energy.html

    'The Gibraltar Crisis And Measures, Options And Strategies Open To Spain – Analysis'
    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-10-01/falklands-tax-dispute-clouding-oil-dream-for-investors-energy.html

    Oct 02nd, 2013 - 07:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Britworker

    @9
    The US was one of many countries that didn't think we would declare war, because the odds of winning were massively stacked against us.
    How wrong they all were, I doubt they will make that mistake again.

    Oct 02nd, 2013 - 08:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • txiki

    @10 - There was no so-called “declaration of war”. Your perception is also not so accurate based on what I have read, and the US full expected the UK to prevail, and told the Argentines as much. It wasn't until it was over it became clear what a close run thing it had become - mainly due to the 8000 mile logisitcs chain than anything else - by the end of the “conflict”, the UK forces had won the important war of attrition with regards to the air battle. It was just the onset of winter, lack of ammo and other such factors which made it closer than you think to having become a stalemate.

    With regard to the complaints about management of fish stocks, the Argentines are crying over spilled milk, There were agreements in place for the joint management of the fishing, which only one side to the agreement walked away from - plus the only place the Falklands EEZ is seen is illegal is in Argentina. They should step up a bit and realise there are things worth cooperating over rather than cutting off noses to spite faces.

    Oct 02nd, 2013 - 09:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Britworker

    @11
    Cutting off your nose to spite your face is written in to the Argentine constitution, hence the reason KFC has a plastic one.

    Oct 02nd, 2013 - 11:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Flagstaff Hill

    Well he doesn't like the Malvinista inconsistent policies which anyone with half a brain can understand, but suggesting that Argentina should take control of the Falklands EEC is a bit of a no brainer.

    Oct 02nd, 2013 - 11:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @5 You're going to have to clarify. Why would there be a geological difference in the Argentine Sea? More bumps? Less bumps? As for the biological differences, I trust you are aware that it gets the cold FALKLAND current and the warm BRAZIL current. So it depends on Brazil and the Falklands. And the argie “influence” is what? Argies pissing in the ocean? Wonder if you understand that “the planet” does its own thing? You might as well call the Argentine Sea, the “Buenos Aires latrine”.

    Oct 02nd, 2013 - 12:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GeoffWard2

    “in Argentina there is no fisheries policy and the rationale to justify the objective is created by the government without taking into account biological, productive or even political rigour.”

    No policy ... just take, take, take.

    Oct 02nd, 2013 - 01:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Truth PaTroll

    @6

    Out of six of your paragraphs, five were lies. That' all that needs to be said.

    Everyone recognizes the Argentina Sea. As I have said, diplomats, geologists, biologists (the last two for reasons I explained above, have nothing to do with politics but rather science, but you are so gnarled by your anti-argieism it blind you), and encyclopedias and maps recognize it. Those are the facts and thus whatever you say is further bleeding from the wound.

    Queen Elizabeth land? Even you don't believe that, but if it soothes you...

    Oct 02nd, 2013 - 01:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • El capitano

    Nope ...no such place as the Argentine Sea....Only in Ajuntina minds...!!...Nope nope nope...!!..

    Oct 02nd, 2013 - 01:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • cornishair

    Where is this Argentina Sea?, all I can see is the Atlantic Ocean, is it a bit like the German Sea?. And how is an area of open ocean defined is a sea?

    Oct 02nd, 2013 - 03:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Steve-33-uk

    'Cameron praised Thatcher for having “saved” the Falklands - British Prime Minister paid tribute to the Iron Lady in the Conservative Party Congress and said “created work, won the Cold War and saved the Falklands”. “Made our country back to stop,” he said...'
    http://www.infonews.com/2013/10/02/mundo-100958-cameron-elogio-a-thatcher-por-haber-salvado-a-las-malvinas-malvinas.php

    Interesting piece of FI related history...
    'October 2nd 1886 - Bridges left the Mission and becomes the first rancher - From land concessions granted by the government of Miguel Juárez Celman, this day Thomas Bridges leaves his pastoral work in the Anglican Mission of Ushuaia to move to engage in productive work, founding Harberton, the first stay on the island...'
    http://www.infonews.com/2013/10/02/mundo-100958-cameron-elogio-a-thatcher-por-haber-salvado-a-las-malvinas-malvinas.php

    Oct 02nd, 2013 - 04:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    @16
    “Everyone recognizes the Argentina Sea.”

    Everyone as in 100% of the world's population?

    I recognise the South Atlantic as the name for the water down there-so for starters as I don't recognise the Argentine sea, therefore it is impossible for 'everyone' to recognise it.

    This is a famous Argentine saying 'everyone ' meaning, not everyone.

    If you were to say' many' people recognises the Argentine sea, you would be right.

    Oct 03rd, 2013 - 08:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Room101

    For Argentina, there is no squid-pro-quo.

    Oct 03rd, 2013 - 07:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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