MercoPress. South Atlantic News Agency
Argentina surprised by EU request to delay another month trade negotiations with Mercosur
The European Union has asked for a one-month delay in the exchange of proposals to kick off free-trade negotiations with Mercosur, Argentine Cabinet Chief Jorge Capitanich confirmed on Thursday. The news was first reported by Sao Paulo newspapers on statements from Brazilian Foreign minister Luiz Fernando Figuereido. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesSo the French are blocking from the European end and we have yet to see what Argentina has to offer on its list. I can't see how it will ever lead to an agreement given the trade and currency controls in Argentina. It's all doomed to failure - but I'm sure all those involved are getting nice lunches and handsome salaries while they stretch it out.
Dec 13th, 2013 - 01:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina should be banned from any free trade until they renounce their violent intent and aggression, against a fellow EU member,
Dec 13th, 2013 - 01:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Still,
If indeed the unmighty EU had any morals and respect for the British people, they would have done something years ago,
Even Spain is tolerated,
The sooner we get of this corrupt gravy train the better,
Just my opinion.
Europe thought they could play on Mercosur division.
Dec 13th, 2013 - 01:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They never imagined even Argentina would get their proposal ready so fast. Now, they lost their joker in Paraguay, as they lost their excuse of Mercosur not coming up with a common proposal.
They woke up with the ball in their garden and just don't know what to do with it.
Mercosur is ready.
To lower EU tariffs.
Argentina has 40+ countries that have officially complained at WTO.
Dec 13th, 2013 - 01:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Brazil has lost its status as an EU developing country.
Both countries need this deal with the EU as their exports stumble and business close. The EU not so much.
Brazil must be freaking out with the delay. Their export numbers are going to be significantly lower starting 1/1/14.
yanqui
Dec 13th, 2013 - 01:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Chinese buys more SA goods than ever. In many countries more than Europe ever bought. SA nations have yearly growths of around 4% on a bad year, while Europe celebrates a rise of 0.5% as if it was the start of a new industrial revolution.
Live with your delusion, the truth is just too blatant, yanqui...
So you would rather sell low profit margin commodities to a poor country rather than high profit mfg items to rich countries.
Dec 13th, 2013 - 02:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Okay
Do you see why your model is failing?
No, yanqui.
Dec 13th, 2013 - 02:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'd rather sell low profit goods than giving you lot 30 year deals to sack our continent.
Do you see why our economies are getting healthier?
Which economies are getting better? The ones aligned with the USA of course.
Dec 13th, 2013 - 02:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Alba/MercoSur block is faltering or failed.
Do you read any current news or just make stuff up as you go?
GDP's for 2012:
Dec 13th, 2013 - 02:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0in Millions$ from IMF
note UN or world bank figures are very similar.
16,673,333 EU
16,244,575 US
8,221,015 China
2,253,090 Brazil
475,211 Argentina
381,286 Venezuela
369,018 Colombia
198,851 Peru
84,040 Ecuador
49,920 Uruguay
27,232 Bolivia
2,828 Guyana
Population in millions:
1,351 China
508 EU
386 South America
317 US
The EU growth may be lower but it is sustainable without the hyperinflation, or the artificial constraints put on currency exchange rates, seen elsewhere.
EU has a common debt of what? 20 Trillions USD?
Dec 13th, 2013 - 02:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0How on earth is that healthy???
It's like me going to the bank borrowing a couple of millions only to flash my (???) cash to the neighbour, calling him poor.
At least you lot are consistent in your delusions...
9. Even if growth rate is low in the EU the GDP base and wealth is much greater than China. They'll never catch up to either the USA or EU. Their “won decade” is over too. Their population curve is working against them and there is no way for them to fix it.
Dec 13th, 2013 - 02:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0All they need is for the 1000s of civil unrest in the Provinces to move into the cities and the regime will fall.
It is just a matter of time
You keep saying that yanqui.
Dec 13th, 2013 - 02:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In the meantime, you have closer and closer to your home for every day that passes...
Close your eyes and trust in the bible ;)
Stevie, you can not give me any current stats or examples in history where Collectivism/Communism has worked. ever. never. not once.
Dec 13th, 2013 - 03:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0China has brought a very slim portion of their HUGE population from destitution to poor/low middle class in a few generations. How is this good? How are they going to bring the majority of their population into the next level? Their model is failing, they are no longer the world's cheap worker bees. Now what?
They are very much in debt, can't feed their population, have massive civil unrest, majority of population is destitute, have very little potable water and MAJOR Pollution LITERALLY KILLING PEOPLE in theier cities.
Tell me, how do they fix it with 300MM people over 65 in the next 10 yrs.
How?
Specifics please.
The commune of Paris.
Dec 13th, 2013 - 03:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0China is by no means perfect. They just aren't parasites to the rest of the globe, like you lot...
@14
Dec 13th, 2013 - 03:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0How quick you are to disassociate yourself with parasitic Spanish colonialism.
Surprised? On a lighter note I quote a line from Stanley Holloways monologues
Dec 13th, 2013 - 03:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“And down came a crow,
Looking so surprised,
With a ramrod through its gizzard”
Britworker
Dec 13th, 2013 - 04:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Spanish colonialism in SA ended some 200 years ago, the last remnants being dealt with today (read Repsol).
I can't see how I would be associated with that.
I might be a descendant of Spaniards, but I'm also a descendant of French, Italian, Portuguese, Greek, Russian, Charrúa.
And I promise you, I have nothing to do with the possible upcoming gas shortages in Europe, despite my Russian ancestors...
If it has to do with Agriculture it will be France for sure...
Dec 13th, 2013 - 04:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Those French farmers...anyone remember in the 90's the French farmers blockading all the British Goods...burning and poisoning sheep and attacking Dutch and British trucks....
They exist on subsidies and won't want unfavourable competition.
@3, 5, 7, 10, 12, 14, 17 What is it with you? An inability to spell? Or have your eyes gone because of constant self-abuse? Seems like you deserve the title “Tosser”. Or is that “Dribbler”? Easy to see what the EU should do. An “argie”. Kick the ball down the road. No-one “needs” mercocrap. Is there a clause enabling European armed forces to occupy defaulting mercomembers and take over the relevant government?
Dec 13th, 2013 - 05:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So sell your crap to China. They aren't so picky. With a population of 1.35 billion, a few hundred thousand deaths are immaterial. Mind you, they might decide to bomb you!
Healthy? Is that the equivalent of moving from starving to malnourished? Ever “thought” about this? European companies buy latam produce. European consumers refuse to buy it. Do those European companies continue buying?
@14 http://en.mercopress.com/2013/12/11/beijing-virtually-takes-over-the-caribbean-island-of-dominica Will Uruguay be next?
@17 So you're a mongrel. Spaniards, French, Italians, Russians. All into imperialist colonialism. And genocide.
@17 Stevie
Dec 13th, 2013 - 05:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Spanish colonialism in SA ended some 200 years ago”
Then Creole colonialism took over, which has continued to the present day.
Just ask the Mapuche.
@18 A_Voice
Not necessarily, but if it is, it’s probably not only France, think Mediterranean climates.
Alternatively it may just be a negotiating ploy to step up the pressure on Brazil, make it easier to get concessions from them when negotiations actually start.
Given they are the only ones under time pressure, and the only ones who matter on the Murcosur side.
All part of the fiendish Europlan to rob SA of all it has.
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
@18 A_Voice
Dec 13th, 2013 - 05:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I agree.
@ Stevie
Why is it “sacking” when the EU or US buy our raw materials but not when China does it?
Besides Brazil, the only SA nation with reasonable industry, stands a much better chance of finding markets where it can compete in Europe than in China.
@18 Yes, most likely France.
Dec 13th, 2013 - 05:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The economy in France is worrying.
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Dec 13th, 2013 - 05:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Greece, Italy and Spain don't have the controlling influence of France and I very much doubt they could delay anything, it's France and Germany that is the EU.
Have you ever driven through France and Germany compared to the UK... try spotting foreign cars 90% of the vehicles in France are French and the same in Germany even the taxis are Mercs..
How they manage to restrict the foreign imports legally....I don't know, but they do..
Stevie is biased towards the USA because he thinks we made his family flee to the EU.
Dec 13th, 2013 - 06:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0He is mistaken but brainwashed so there is no getting through that thick head.
They do say,
Dec 13th, 2013 - 06:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That Germany uses the UK to off set the French,
The French use the UK or off set the Germans,
The British use themselves to create a balance of power between them,
If the British go [and they will]
Germany will fear French exploitation and influence,
And the French will fear German power, strength and future expansion,
And the British will fear neither of them
But will trade with them both just as before,
So they say.
??
.
@23 A_Voice
Dec 13th, 2013 - 07:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The structure of Europe is such that even small countries can cause delays like this, if they have a mind to.
Usually the French have “all their ducks in a row” long before this point, as you said, a controlling influence.
All speculation at this point, as no reason has been revealed, yet.
I have been round Europe a few times, and yes cars are like football shirts, sometimes it’s the only way you know you have crossed a border.
They don’t even try and “restrict” things when you only have to go a few miles down the road, across a border, and buy it there. They are just nationalists about their cars.
Merc taxis are everywhere, every taxi driver that does not have one, wants one.
SHORT TERM Arg Gov't bonds paying 38%.
Dec 13th, 2013 - 07:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Holy Crap!
Hyperinflation has begun.
“Argentina surprised...” - I laugh myself to dead. capitanowitsch is a clown.
Dec 13th, 2013 - 07:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Europe, give us alone! The colonization is over!
Dec 14th, 2013 - 12:12 am - Link - Report abuse 029
Dec 14th, 2013 - 12:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0....did you mean leave us alone ....or give us a loan?
29. Brazil is the one begging for this agreement not the EU.
Dec 14th, 2013 - 12:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0leave
Dec 14th, 2013 - 12:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0leave us a loan?
Dec 14th, 2013 - 12:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0Deixem-nos, only. I say in portuguese. Deixem-nos!
Dec 14th, 2013 - 12:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0Leave us alone!
leaves..? ...what have leaves got to do with it?
Dec 14th, 2013 - 12:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0Mmm.....
That time of year thou mayst in me behold
When yellow leaves, or none, or few, do hang
Upon those boughs which shake against the cold,
Bare ruined choirs, where late the sweet birds sang.
In me thou see’st the twilight of such day
As after sunset fadeth in the west;
Which by and by black night doth take away,
Death’s second self, that seals up all in rest.
In me thou see’st the glowing of such fire,
That on the ashes of his youth doth lie,
As the deathbed whereon it must expire,
Consumed with that which it was nourished by.
This thou perceiv’st, which makes thy love more strong,
To love that well which thou must leave ere long.
...by a European.....
Camões in english. Good.
Dec 14th, 2013 - 12:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0@18 & 22
Dec 14th, 2013 - 01:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0Oui.
Française from Guiana. Mercy.
Dec 14th, 2013 - 01:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0Oh these Anglo humans are just so bemusingly arrogant. The question is... on what do they base it? As an “outsider”, and I mean an “outsider”, I ponder that.
Dec 14th, 2013 - 05:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0Sure they have some points in their favor, but more points than any of those other people and nations they so indiscriminately trash and vilipend, either directly or by suggesting as above that they (UK) should leave the proto-Earth government of the EU, and that the others will simply pretend it did not happen and jolly trade with them? lol.
I think they and even the Latin humans here need to chill out. It is the two week holiday season. Enjoy!!
All of you have already asked Santa for your wishes? (psss... he's not really Santa under the red suit).
I sure have!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKTQmZHwDY4
Ooh I didn't know “Anglos” was a race.
Dec 14th, 2013 - 05:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0Glad to see they're are the dominant life form on this planet. Even outsiders recognise it.
Where did I say they are dominant? You absolutely are a race, easily distinguished by several logarithmic parameters.
Dec 14th, 2013 - 06:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0What did you wish for Christmas? And what did you think of my wish.
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Dec 14th, 2013 - 08:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0Brasileiro, Are you stupid or can't you read your own newspapers? Brazil is in panic mode over losing the preferential import rates from the EU. They expire at the end of this month. The EU couldn't care less about a timeline to closure of an FTA with MercoSur.
Dec 14th, 2013 - 12:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I am sure they will force Arg to open the markets and prove that they will comply before an agreement is finalized. Do you seriously think Germany/Italy/France are going to allow a MS member to tax cars at 50% and restrict entry by 20%?
They won't
So unless Brazil gets its own FTA I don't see this deal ever happening.
Either Europe finishes with agricultural subsidies and open their primary market, or no FTA. Very simple!
Dec 14th, 2013 - 03:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cT79lp-j_o&list=FLmXPTu1f8AdGlizWNiASx2A
44. Brazil will cave over the farming exports. Argentina can't meet the sanitary standards.
Dec 14th, 2013 - 04:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What a waste of time.
Yes, yankeeboy. I agree.
Dec 14th, 2013 - 04:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tjx-IgSxXJE&list=FLmXPTu1f8AdGlizWNiASx2A
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Dec 15th, 2013 - 02:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0Well done Brasileiro your comment @36 was very sharp wit...caught me by surprise...
...and there was me, thinking I was making fun of you.....;-)
@38 Mercy? Sorry, no chance. Or did you mean “Merci”? You really must try “education” as well as cleaning cesspits. Don't get brown fingerprints on the comics.
Dec 15th, 2013 - 12:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@39 You couldn't ponder, even if you had a pond. Although ponds have “pond life” and “scum”. “Anglos” as you like to say, demonstrating your racist xenophobia, are responsible for most of the advances of the human race. “Anglos” can be traced back at least 1,950 years. It isn't “arrogance”, a fault latinos have adopted in a failed attempt to make up for lack of competence and intelligence, it's a justifiable assessment. Who's surprised that sub-human latinos need to justify themselves? May you get your wishes! A decent government, intelligence, education, electricity, food, air!
@41 But we are dominant! So many “professions” that can't be engaged in unless you speak and understand OUR language. The dominant language of OUR planet. Why do you HAVE to speak OUR language on here? Mind you, WE do tolerate peasants that still use gibberish. Is your favourite word still “Ugg”? Whereas I think of you (as little as possible) and think “Ugh”!
@44 Oh good. Rid of you then!
Stevie, Just wondering if you want to offer a comment on the rioting that killed 16 people ( most likely many more) this weekend in your oh so admired China?
Dec 16th, 2013 - 11:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yeah its all going swimmingly
You are one dumb cluck
RIP?
Dec 16th, 2013 - 12:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yeah par for the course you're too dumb to offer a thoughtful response.
Dec 16th, 2013 - 01:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I don't know why I bothered.
Yeah... I don't know why you bothered either...
Dec 16th, 2013 - 04:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I find it fascinating that your kept all the prejudices, bad education, lack of logic, basically all the reasons SA are not able to succeed in the Northern world even though you were brought up in it.
Dec 17th, 2013 - 03:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Your parents must not be very smart.
and they set you up to fail.
I feel sorry for you, you must be a very sad guy.
I still don't know why you bother...
Dec 17th, 2013 - 05:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It is a hope that someday you'll see the errors of your ways.
Dec 17th, 2013 - 05:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Maybe you should try bothering with your own flaws.
Dec 17th, 2013 - 05:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I understand loneliness is a tough bugger, but if you opened up a bit and pretended to be human, you'll actually might.... no... hmmm... There are MMO's out there where you can take on a personality and pretend you are a good man. How about that?
I actually have trouble getting alone time, clients, friends, family always seem to be around and wanting something.
Dec 17th, 2013 - 05:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Maybe you should look in the mirror and read that post to yourself.
So explain to me how your stupid commie parents could raise you in a Northern country to be so prejudiced about the people you are surrounded by?
Seems pretty idiotic and hypocritical to me
Are they not grateful for the shelter, the better way of life, the good schools, the nice people? Most south americans are very happy and proud to immigrate to a civilized country.
Do you feel like you don't belong anywhere?
Probably that is why you are so bitter.
Sure yanqui, I can imagine the cue of people in your property, wanting to see the light in your crystal ball...
Dec 17th, 2013 - 06:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I don't know why I even bother....
Wow Stevie, you have a crystal ball? Have you donated it to medical science in the event of you becoming fertilizer?
Dec 17th, 2013 - 06:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nope redpoll, that would be yanqui. And I think they tried his sort as fertilizer in Carthage. Doesn't work.
Dec 17th, 2013 - 06:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Stevie not everyone is as sad and lonely as you.
Dec 17th, 2013 - 09:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0True.
Dec 17th, 2013 - 09:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And some people are sadder AND more lonely.
Like you...
You are barking up the wrong tree
Dec 17th, 2013 - 09:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0but I obviously have hit the nail on the head
BTW I am going to Norway this summer to visit my friend shall I stop by? Do you live in a dangerous neighborhood?
Not at all. Drop by, by all means.
Dec 17th, 2013 - 10:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I was just teaching my son a outcome of pairing an animal (lobo) with boardgame (ludo).
You'll do fine as a perfect example...
Wow, Stevie as the new Scipio Africanus!! Cartago delenda est!
Dec 17th, 2013 - 11:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So Stevie, who are you going to donate your crystal balls to?
Not sure yet, but I'll send you a cucurucho... It's solid gold!
Dec 17th, 2013 - 11:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0;)
Silly sad man you don't belong in either place that you try to call home.
Dec 18th, 2013 - 12:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0That's why you are so angry all the time.
I hope you don't ruin your sons life like your parents ruined yours.
Hahahaha yanqui!
Dec 18th, 2013 - 12:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0I'm the angry one? I'm being called all sorts of things by you, amongst others, and I'm the angry one?
Hahahahahaha!!!
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