Thursday, January 30th 2014 - 19:09 UTC

Learning about the Falkland Islands

Unsurprisingly, most Australians don’t know much about the Falkland Islands, so visiting Legislative Assembly member Mike Summers faced lots of questions during his trip to Melbourne this week.

Mr. Smith, Speaker of the Victoria Parliament and MLA Mike Summers

 At 51 degrees south, it’s further south than Australia, and is often perceived as being almost polar. But maps can be deceptive. In the northern hemisphere the landmasses stretch much closer to the pole, so in fact the Falklands are only at the equivalent latitude to England.

Mike described the healthy economy, based on a strong fisheries industry, sheep farming and tourism, and the excellent prospects for oil and gas development. He set out such an attractive picture of the tourist opportunities that many who heard him expressed an interest in visiting.

People were keen to know how the 3,000 islanders lived and how they connected to the rest of the world. 3AW Radio interviewer Tom Elliott said it sounded perfect: a budget surplus, zero unemployment and only eight politicians!

Mike explained that the islands’ leaders had decided to engage more actively internationally, to explain their situation, in the face of increasingly assertive efforts by Argentine authorities to inhibit their economic development. He argued that the rights of the Falkland islanders to self-determination, a right enshrined in the UN Charter, should be paramount.

In a referendum last year 99.8% had voted in favour of remaining a self-governing overseas territory of the UK. The Islanders had sent a clear message to the world that they wanted to remain British. You can read an article he wrote prior to his visit.

Mike was here just after Australia Day which commemorates the arrival of the first western settlement in 1788. In recent years the annual event has given rise to much reflection here on the impact of that arrival on Australia’s Aboriginal inhabitants. Australians were interested to learn from Mike that the first British settlement on the Falklands had been even earlier, in 1766, and that there had been no indigenous population prior to their arrival.

There has been continuous British settlement on the Falklands since the 1830s, and some of the current population are 9th generation islanders. Mike suggested that whilst accusations of colonialism were being bandied about, it was actually the Argentine who were seeking to be colonisers, against the will of the Falklands people.

A number of the people Mike met reflected on their memories of the Falklands conflict in 1982. We had a fascinating dinner with Malcolm Fraser who had been Prime Minister at the time. Many of Mike’s interlocutors expressed genuine understanding and sympathy for his message about the importance of respecting the Falkland Islanders’ right to self-determination.

By Paul Madden

More info: See ‎Falklands‬ MLA Mike Summers in action, talking about his visit to‪ ‎NewZealand‬

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1 so_far (#) Jan 30th, 2014 - 07:32 pm Report abuse
“... most Australians don’t know much about the Falkland Islands...”

really ?

wow Lisa, everyday smarter
2 Anglotino (#) Jan 30th, 2014 - 07:36 pm Report abuse
Yes at least we are willing to learn.

Unlike Argentines who believe in fairy tales manufactured in the 1940s. Australia moved on from the 1940s in the 1950s. The world is still waiting for Argentina to catch up.
3 Briton (#) Jan 30th, 2014 - 07:38 pm Report abuse
mind you,
halve the world have no idea about Argentina either,

most people surveyed, thought CFK was a part of the Kentucky fried chickenn
4 so_far (#) Jan 30th, 2014 - 07:44 pm Report abuse
“....CFK was a part of the Kentucky fried chickenn group...””

That was a good one briton...doesn´t expect that from u

5 Briton (#) Jan 30th, 2014 - 07:48 pm Report abuse
first thing that came to mind..
6 so_far (#) Jan 30th, 2014 - 07:53 pm Report abuse
nice one, make laugh....

is almost the same efect.....both CFK and KFC kicks your liver

7 Briton (#) Jan 30th, 2014 - 07:59 pm Report abuse
true lol.
8 A_Voice (#) Jan 30th, 2014 - 08:15 pm Report abuse
Poor Mike he must have been expecting Aussies to be like Brits.....
Unsurprisingly, most Australians don’t know much about....anything, would be closer to the truth....
...don't believe a couple of episodes of ..“Nothing to Declare”....

...”Yeah that's great Mike, but do you have any Lager?
....Do ys want some....
9 Anglotino (#) Jan 30th, 2014 - 08:27 pm Report abuse
Lager? Huh? Nothing to Declare? WTF?

At least we know Still boring A_Voice knows even less about Australia.
10 Escoses Doido (#) Jan 30th, 2014 - 08:37 pm Report abuse
Agreed, a boring cnut.

Another can of lahga, lahga, lahga......
11 A_Voice (#) Jan 30th, 2014 - 08:43 pm Report abuse
whats to know Skip..
...Extreme weather
...majority of the land is desert...
..shark infested waters...
12 toooldtodieyoung (#) Jan 30th, 2014 - 08:46 pm Report abuse
11 A_Voice

Were you just describing my first marriage?
13 ron_57 (#) Jan 30th, 2014 - 09:06 pm Report abuse
Australia knows now the islanders are poor and they would like to have a CT-Scanner, a nice hotel and several air-bus airplanes....
14 Escoses Doido (#) Jan 30th, 2014 - 09:10 pm Report abuse
Thars only aboot three thoozin 'o' thim yi feel cnut.

In thil bi gei weel aff in nae lang.
15 toooldtodieyoung (#) Jan 30th, 2014 - 09:11 pm Report abuse
9 Anglotino

See the post at 13?

Oh you gotta laff ain't cha?

Now, what was it you were saying about “useful phrases and handy words” for argy trolls on this forum?

Round 01 to you then.
16 Troy Tempest (#) Jan 30th, 2014 - 09:19 pm Report abuse
9 Anglotino

“At least we know Still boring A_Voice knows even less about Australia.”

He knows nothing about anywhere except what Google/ Wiki tells him.
He knows nothing about travelling - I suspect he has a criminal record and no passport.

Probably turned up, drunk and angry, at the Ex's place over Christmas and spent some time in the “hoosegow”.

He called that time, “spending holidays with the family”, to explain his silence.

On a different note,
Do you remember the thread or date of “Stevie's” meltdown racist post??
17 Andy65 (#) Jan 30th, 2014 - 09:29 pm Report abuse
@A_Voice Nice bit of truth by the Bank of England Governor yesterday me old mate.
18 A_Voice (#) Jan 30th, 2014 - 09:42 pm Report abuse
Scottish wannabe Dildo...Ever been to Glasgow airport....Nah thought not...
So you are Scottish national are you....then tell me how many figures in Security code part 1 and how many figures in security code part 2 on the voting registration for the Scottish referendum...?

Troll Tempest the Canadian wannabe Brit that's never been out of Canada and pretends he has a wife and daughter.....What a joke...

Hey Skip I missed out, about Australia....former British penal what category were your ancestors...murderers, rapists or thieves..?
Anything else I need to know about Australia?
19 Escoses Doido (#) Jan 30th, 2014 - 10:17 pm Report abuse
@18 viceie,
You are the non-Scot here. I'm a real Scot from the NE remember.
I did fly out of Glasgow airport one time with my birds family, to go to Tenerife.

I flew in to Edinburgh Airport to be met with TV cameras once in 1991, when I came back from the first gulf war. (Op Granby)

To date, and considering my home base is 30 min NE of Dyce airport beside Aiberdeen. I always fly in and out of Dyce - Business class of course. Always.

I take it you have actually tried to register then? As yet I have not, but I know I am eligible, and believe you me I will be voting.

Now, - You answer all of us here reading this, - Are you entitled to vote?

I'm a home owner in Scotland, and on the electoral role.

Are you? that's all you have to answer - Simple question.............
20 Andy65 (#) Jan 30th, 2014 - 10:22 pm Report abuse
@A_Voice Are you pissed yet Jock??? JAJAJA
21 Faz (#) Jan 30th, 2014 - 10:46 pm Report abuse
A_Hole is actually a Scotch masochist, give him a verbal lashing and he asks for more!
22 Escoses Doido (#) Jan 30th, 2014 - 10:48 pm Report abuse
No mate, that is not a Scot.

That is not a Scot.
23 Britworker (#) Jan 30th, 2014 - 11:37 pm Report abuse
Independence = no sterling

The governor of the BOE was very polite and diplomatic yesterday, essentially saying that he will do whatever he is told to do but a sterling zone carried huge risk. Don't be in any doubt that he was extensively briefed by Westminster before his visit.

The UK treasury was less diplomatic saying basically, not a chance in hell is the UK entering a sterling zone.

The preamble and stage has been set, the NO POUND bomb is loaded and ready to be dropped at a time that suits Westminster over the coming months.

Oh by the way, Mr Salmond has no choice but to take Scotlands share of debt, if he doesn't he won't be able to borrow, that is fact, just in the same way that the UK has no choice and has to keep all the debt so as not to lose market confidence if Salmond stupidly decides he is walking away debt free.

I actually don't think that Scotland would have that much trouble joining Europe, but they will have no choice but to take the Euro and join Schengen and submit their budgets and spending to Brussells. Scotland would then become a European state about the size of Latvia and with the same political clout. That in my view would be less desirable to a majority of Scots than remaining in the UK.

The hard facts and truths are about to be laid bare and will leave Salmond with virtually no wobble room. Prepare yourselves for the NO POUND bomb Scotland, its on its way.
24 Faz (#) Jan 30th, 2014 - 11:49 pm Report abuse
#22 Have you looked up his kilt?
25 A_Voice (#) Jan 31st, 2014 - 12:00 am
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26 Escoses Doido (#) Jan 31st, 2014 - 12:02 am Report abuse
That dog shit has never, and will never wear a kilt

If the idiot would like to share his family name, then perhaps little bits of dog shit like you and a voice could suck your owm dicks?
27 Joe Bloggs (#) Jan 31st, 2014 - 12:10 am Report abuse
3AW is a pretty influential radio station in Melbourne. The boy did well to get on there. Not over convinced it's going to make a massive difference but we need to just keep chipping away.

Did I read correctly? Think is on here calling others pretenders? WTF?

Think, Dover over Dover, Surfer, A_Voice, etc, etc.

Credibility check anyone.
28 A_Voice (#) Jan 31st, 2014 - 12:12 am Report abuse
...still can't answer the question Dildo??
29 Britworker (#) Jan 31st, 2014 - 12:15 am Report abuse
The UK has no choice but to guarantee it will cover Scotlands share of the debt. But if Salmond doesn't take any of the debt of his own volition, Scotland will be deemed by the markets as too risky to lend to, Salmond is in a really difficult spot on that one.

The new utopian Scottish economy will be heavily reliant on north sea oil revenues. If the rUK is in a sterling zone with Scotland and oil prices drop, that is great news for the UK but very bad for Scotland as they won't be able to pay their way. They will have to raise taxes massively and the rUK would be liable to bail them out.

That is why there is no way the UK are getting involved in a Sterling zone.

The seeds of doubt are only being planted at the moment, the UK will wait until quite late to tell Salmond that the sterling zone is definitely not happening so he has less time to bake up an alternative and feed it to the Scottish people. The majority of information from Westminster prior to September will be ambiguous and non-committal so as to give Salmond no time what so ever to have any B-plan right at the end. Quite clever really.
30 Escoses Doido (#) Jan 31st, 2014 - 12:16 am
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31 Joe Bloggs (#) Jan 31st, 2014 - 12:22 am Report abuse
Ah ha ha ha ha ha!

You crack me up. You know nobody takes anything you say seriously don't you. You just make people laugh. You've had more names on here than the rest of us put together and then you call others pretenders.

...and you always exaggerate your attempts at ignoring me by posting right after me but not addressing my posts? LOL!

How's the RBL? Or is it trout fishing in Chubut today? Or perhaps just Waitrose pre-prepared meal tonight. You never know, maybe you're back at Celia's.

You sad old deadbeat.
32 A_Voice (#) Jan 31st, 2014 - 12:23 am Report abuse
Why not tell the forum why you can't answer the question.....
Yes you are right...but you are also wrong...the UK in the case of a Yes vote will not under any circumstances prevent Scotland from using the is not in their interest...a deal will occur and Scotland will lose a little of its Sovereignty, but will still be much the same way the UK has with the EU....
33 Faz (#) Jan 31st, 2014 - 12:23 am Report abuse
#30 Claims he looks out on the Gareloch and is a lead piper. But I think he was thrown out of the Combined Services for treason.
34 Narine T. Nüster (#) Jan 31st, 2014 - 12:29 am Report abuse
“Unsurprisingly, most Australians don’t know much.”

For practical purposes, the article should have ended right there.
35 Joe Bloggs (#) Jan 31st, 2014 - 12:33 am Report abuse
And you know this how? I know you're the same guy- 20 name changes later- who once used to claim to only deal in the facts. State you facts you big footed, dumb arse bastard. What is your experience of Australians? Apart from the one on here who boots you so hard every time you open your mouth that you now find it easier to clean your teeth up your arsehole.
36 Britworker (#) Jan 31st, 2014 - 12:35 am Report abuse
Im always astonished when I hear Scottish Nationalists stating what the UK will have to do in the event of Scotland becoming independent. It is absolutely not in the UK's interests to be part of a sterling zone, that decision, i'm afraid, is one for the rest of the UK.
The problem for the Scottish Nationalists is that they know this full well and all they can answer it with is “well its in your interests”.
No it is not the rUK's interests to be getting involved in a very risky sterling zone, we will just keep it as it is thank you. I am English and I would like to have a say in whether or not I want my country to be liable for the debt of a foreign country.

I am afraid that the sterling question will probably be the undoing of the SNP.
37 Narine T. Nüster (#) Jan 31st, 2014 - 12:37 am Report abuse
I know because this person at 0:07 told me:

Why would I doubt a native?
38 A_Voice (#) Jan 31st, 2014 - 12:45 am Report abuse
I don't claim to be a lead Piper...I am a lead Piper....
My pipes have Henderson drones...a Canmore bag..a moisture trap...four in each drone and one in the chanter..
My Pipes are made of African Blackwood and ivory..the ivory was before it was banned...not the modern fake rubbish...
I have piped the haggis in many many times on Burns night to the tune of A Man's A Man For A' That....that is the tune to play....
What do you do...
Get the facts right....not just the UK....
In his speech, Mr Carney stressed arrangements for a currency union in the event of independence would be a matter for the Scottish and UK parliaments.

The pound does not belong to belongs Scotland as well.....
39 Britworker (#) Jan 31st, 2014 - 12:52 am Report abuse
Wrong, in the event of independence the BOE will have no jurisdiction or liability over foreign country, they can't lift it up and take it with them im afraid. The Pound is the currency of the UK, if you leave the UK, you have no pound, unless of course you are able to convince westminster and the treasury to the contrary.

Good luck with that one. And good night.
40 A_Voice (#) Jan 31st, 2014 - 12:59 am Report abuse
Just show me one instance where the UK Govt have officially said that Scotland Will Not be able to use the Pound...
Best of luck with that one...
41 Narine T. Nüster (#) Jan 31st, 2014 - 01:01 am Report abuse
Why are my Anglo-EUian cousins so churlish and irascible today... “suck my Doric____ ”, “have you looked up his kilt?”, ”big footed, dumb arse bastard (btw, I wear a dainty size 36, but I do keep a look-out for shoes to give to an acquaintance who requires a size 49 or 50 in dress shoe)... Anyways, why all the short-fuses?

Another gloomy day in the EU? We should be accustomed to our tragic weather.
42 Justthefacts (#) Jan 31st, 2014 - 01:57 am Report abuse
Back onto topic. Most on this forum would not know that aero lineas Arg. are canceling their BA Sydney route this April. They already dumped NO about 18 months ago. Great international engagement as their influence declines.
43 Troy Tempest (#) Jan 31st, 2014 - 01:58 am Report abuse

Brits and the Real Scot, 7

A_Voice the fake, nil
44 Justthefacts (#) Jan 31st, 2014 - 01:59 am Report abuse
NO was meant to be NZ
45 Narine T. Nüster (#) Jan 31st, 2014 - 02:01 am Report abuse

Makes sense if there is not enough traffic between the two countries.
46 A_Voice (#) Jan 31st, 2014 - 02:19 am Report abuse
Troll Tempest...still sucking up to losers...
The score was...I exposed a liar with facts.....

@19.....“I take it you have actually tried to register then? As yet I have not, but I know I am eligible, and believe you me I will be voting.”

See that part...“As yet I have not, but I know I am eligible”

The registration forms for the Scottish Referendum were sent out over a month ago to all those eligible to everyone on the Electoral Roll....
On this form were two unique security codes..No.1 and No.2...
There was no need to register.....they went out automatically...
So he was lying as he didn't know.....and cannot answer the question....
An eligible Scot would have known this and agreed...

Why not ask Clyde if I'm right.....;-)))
I like to expose the Wannabes....sooner or later they slip up...and I'll be there...
No need to thank me.....all part of the service.....
47 Heisenbergcontext (#) Jan 31st, 2014 - 02:24 am Report abuse
An article about a Falkland Islands legislator visiting Australia and most of the comments are about Scotland lol.

@8 A_Voice & @37 Narine/Tobias

We may not know much but, as Tobias' thoughtfully provided semi-serious video clearly demonstrates, we DO have the ability to laugh at ourselves as well as acknowledge our many foibles.

What most foreigners don't realise about Australians is we'll test you and test and test you but once you have demonstrated that you can take it - we'll adopt you for life.

I'm glad Mr Summers is here and has the opportunity to speak about his home. Whether it will greatly increase awareness of the issues concerning the Falklands I can't say but it can't hurt that his accent is almost perfectly pitched between a Home Counties accent and an Australian accent.
48 Troy Tempest (#) Jan 31st, 2014 - 02:53 am Report abuse
@19 Escoses Doido

At least you are Scotsman who tells us he IS a Scotsman, and you tell us where you live, and you own a house there!

You are certainly more credible than “Jock _Voice” always skulking behind someone's “sporran”, but never out in the open.
Trolls do live under bridges, though...

I see 3 more quotes, in quick succession after yours where A_Voice took a shit-kicking.

”I'm a home owner in Scotland, and on the electoral role.

Are you? that's all you have to answer - Simple question.............
20 Andy65 (#)
Jan 30th, 2014 - 10:22 pm
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@A_Voice Are you pissed yet Jock??? JAJAJA
21 Faz (#)
Jan 30th, 2014 - 10:46 pm
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A_Hole is actually a Scotch masochist, give him a verbal lashing and he asks for more!
22 Escoses Doido (#)
Jan 30th, 2014 - 10:48 pm
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No mate, that is not a Scot.

That is not a Scot.
23 Britworker (#)
Jan 30th, 2014 - 11:37 pm
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Independence = no sterling“

The score still shows ”nil” for credibility, A_voice.

Can you post your bagpipe link for us? Interesting read.

49 Vestige (#) Jan 31st, 2014 - 03:06 am Report abuse
Whats to learn ?

Its another northern Ireland, southern Spain or eastern Indian ocean Diego Garcia.

Another colonial leftover. This time to the west.
50 Heisenbergcontext (#) Jan 31st, 2014 - 03:17 am Report abuse
@49 Vestige

“What's to learn.”

That there are other perspectives than it is 'northern ( sic ) Ireland, southern Spain or eastern Indian ocean Diego Garcia.”

That's your opinion. There are others.
51 paulcedron (#) Jan 31st, 2014 - 04:04 am Report abuse
“Learning about the Falkland Islands”
in brief: two pieces of rock inhabited by sheep, penguins and 2500 lazy british wannabes.
not the most interesting place on earth
52 Heisenbergcontext (#) Jan 31st, 2014 - 04:31 am Report abuse
@51 paulcedron

Again it's a matter of perspective - one man/woman's “...two pieces of rock..” etc.. can be another man/woman's paradise. Some people can't live anywhere but teeming metropolis's and others need the freedom and space that a sparsely occupied island ( s ) can provide.

Who are we to judge?
53 Troy Tempest (#) Jan 31st, 2014 - 04:32 am Report abuse

“Learning about Argentina”

should I reply 'in kind', Paul?

Or... do you think that might not please you?
54 Doggy Rap (#) Jan 31st, 2014 - 05:01 am Report abuse
The usual Argentine mental midgets blabbering, how utterly boring - but they are in dire need of the 1.85 pesos they are paid for a blab, so I guess we shall let them go on looking silly.
55 Anglotino (#) Jan 31st, 2014 - 05:20 am Report abuse
Stevie's breakdown was the week of Christmas I think. When did the BsAs blackouts happen? That's when he found himself alone and went feral.

Australians might not know much but we know how to prevent 28% inflation, military coups, police strikes that affect public safety and blackouts lasting weeks on end. Oh and how to pay back don't. But that's right, you're French. So I guess we know how to beat the Germans when needed, how to not get caught should we decide to sink a Greenpeace vessel and how to run a budget surplus.

Still boring A_Voice
“about Australia....former British penal what category were your ancestors...murderers, rapists or thieves..?
Anything else I need to know about Australia?”

Well I'm hoping I have at least one of each. A murderer, rapist and thief. A trifecta win when you think about it. I mean the ones sent to Australia were supposed to be punished! AND THEY GAVE THEM AUSTRALIA. LOL. Sometimes you just have to chuckle at giving an entire continent to people who were deported for crimes.

Now I know that one of my English ancestors emigrated 100 years ago. Unfortunately I'm unsure how my Scottish ancestors got here (Ayr) or my Irish ancestors. Or my Spanish ones for that matter. The Danish ones were migrants via England.

But the result is the same. I, along with 23 million others, get to enjoy one of the world's richest, safest, most stable and prosperous countries. The only nation encompassing an entire continent. The first in history. And the last.

So I don't know what crimes my ancestors may have committed but jeez I'm thankful that they did. Every day.

As for what you don't know about Australia. Well that will fill a book wouldn't it. But you know enough to make me smug. Oh so smug.
56 Narine T. Nüster (#) Jan 31st, 2014 - 06:01 am Report abuse
“The only nation encompassing an entire continent. The first in history. And the last”

There was another nation there before your nation. Or to put it in pictures and sound so you understand:
57 Anglotino (#) Jan 31st, 2014 - 07:06 am Report abuse
Actually Toblerine, you are wrong the Aboriginal inhabitants weren't A nation but many different nations.

Australia is now a nation and encompasses the entire continent.

I'm sure your YouTube clip was awesome but I never check so I'll take your word.

You seem a little out of your depth so here's a good visual aid to show how many nations there were.

I don't think you are capable of understanding the differences between all the different nations, people, language groups and tribes that existed before Europeans colonised.

But we are the first nation to span a continent. And will be the last.
58 lsolde (#) Jan 31st, 2014 - 10:11 am Report abuse
@51 paulcedron,
One man's meat is another man's poison.
l love the Falklands, great place for bringing up children.
There is only one drawback, the glowering, aggressive, belligerent, hulking entity to the west....................Argentina.
Take away Argentina's ridiculous, immoral attitudes, would indeed be paradise in the Falklands.
btw-you don't have to live here, so why are you so negative & angry?
Could it be that you are, in fact, jealous?
There is no need to be jealous, as Argentina, managed correctly(as you plonkers cannot do)should be a very prosperous country.
ln fact, Argentina is too good for you.
And fyi, my next choice after the Falklands is Australia.
Great country, great potential. Just politicians let it down(don't they in any country?)
Further more, barely a quarter of the settlers up to Federation in 1901 had SOME convict ancestery.
l have many relations in Australia & as far as l could research, none were convicts.
Anyway, that sometimes was no big deal. Some starving people were transported for stealing a loaf of bread. Real hardened criminals, eh?
Just as a matter of interest, a convict transport mutinied off the coast of Uruguay & the convicts(mainly women)made it ashore & were absorbed into the Uruguayan population. They escaped their fate in Australia.....
hellooooooooo Stevie, are you sure you are who you say you are? nlol
Peace, brothers & sisters.
59 niphotos (#) Jan 31st, 2014 - 10:51 am Report abuse
What.s broken, corrupt and blind to democracy ??..................Answer !!....Argentina of course !!
60 Faz (#) Jan 31st, 2014 - 10:59 am Report abuse
A_HOLEs bagpipes, well and truly punctured! And, if the Scotch vote for separation we, the rest of the UK will have a vote in OUR parliament on whether we should let the Scotch have any say on our pound. And,...the answer will be quote rightly, no! Swivel on that....

And, Paul, if you should wish us to list RGlands shortcomings there aren't enough characters. But, here are a few... corruption, crime, financial disaster area, population too stupid corrupt and lazy to exploit fantastic natural resources, international pariah shunndf by civilised nations, oppressed indiginous population, failing public infrastructure... to say nothing of the villa miserias, cartoneros, piles of rubbish, bars on windows, no go areas. None of which exists in our Falkland Islands. Just quiet, peaceful, crime and corruption free happy wealthy people dining on nice lamb and Waitrose and M&S fare.
Aren't you jealous? Because that's the way it sounds
61 Briton (#) Jan 31st, 2014 - 11:15 am Report abuse
Learning about the Falkland Islands

not Scotland,
how do you get on to that, or is it another argy ploy to change the subject..
62 Conqueror (#) Jan 31st, 2014 - 11:53 am Report abuse
@13 I don't believe you've yet told us how Daa, Doo and the other RON are?
@36 You are quite right. It's true that the UK cannot stop Scotland using the pound sterling INFORMALLY. Although Scotland should remain aware of the international penalties for counterfeiting and forgery. But the people of ENGLAND will not stand for the Bank of ENGLAND being Scotland's “lender of last resort”. After all, Scotland already owes England more than £2 quadrillion, and that's increasing every day. You know, principal times 5% compound interest for 300 years. Equally funny is how some Scots think that the last 50 years negates the previous 260. And they have the cheek to demand “their” gas and oil AND 9% of OUR assets. If they go independent, they'll get the land. They should be grateful. One meanders around sites reading comments from uneducated Scots conned by Salmond and realise that they don't have a clue.
@40 The Bank of England will NOT be “lender of last resort” for Scotland.
@47 What do you expect? PR-minded “Scots” like to display their “knowledge”. Unfortunately, such “Scots” have forgotten that the wind whistles up their kilts and, through lack of underwear, freezes their nads, where they keep their brains, off. They meander pointlessly after a fish-face with a name like Salmon(d) into oblivion. Even “semi-regular Scots” need an education system. “Electoral role”. Hahahahaha.
@51 Much more interesting that the land of faggots to the west. Compulsory now, isn't it?
63 Vestige (#) Jan 31st, 2014 - 12:10 pm Report abuse
57 -
Whatever this : “ aid to show how many nations there were.”; is suggesting can be pretty much be counter argued by .....


Is being a continent some claim to fame now ?
A manmade word in a language makes Oz somehow wonderful.

Russia is massive.
Im going to name it a super-duper

Russia is the only country in the world that encompasses a whole super-duper.
Aint that just awesome.

What if the meaning gets changed tomorrow to include NZ.
Who'd really care.
64 redp0ll (#) Jan 31st, 2014 - 12:36 pm Report abuse
@58 Isolde. I would be interested in details of the mutiny of the convict ship off Uruguay. Do you have a reference or even better the name of the ship?
I ask because I am researching the history of a group of Uruguayan muleteers who settled at Mintaro, South Australia
I would agree the two events are not related, but should you or any of our Aussie posters have any info or links on either story I would be most interested.
Thank you
65 Narine T. Nüster (#) Jan 31st, 2014 - 01:24 pm Report abuse

In other words, you ain't giving the land back to the rightful owners, the land you stole.

Thank you for the clarification.

Deflection by all anglos towards Argentina's “sins” in order to completely circumvent responding to this last question in 3, 2, 1...
66 Troy Tempest (#) Jan 31st, 2014 - 01:30 pm Report abuse

Thanks for narrowing it down for me.

Stevie is getting carried away again, and a little forgetful.

I think his views on 'inclusion' need to be posted once more.
67 Heisenbergcontext (#) Jan 31st, 2014 - 01:33 pm Report abuse
@64 redpoll

There are many references to the muleteers on local websites but very little detailed information. I'm sure there would much more at the State Library. If you're not in a hurry I'll have a look the next time I'm in town.
68 FI_Frost (#) Jan 31st, 2014 - 01:43 pm Report abuse

Are we not all sinners?

Or are you suggesting we all head back to Africa: those of a Spanish, Italian, German extraction are of course excluded from this; apparently some 16th centenary Pope chappy gave you all an exemption chitty.
69 redp0ll (#) Jan 31st, 2014 - 02:04 pm Report abuse
@67. Thanks Hiesenberg. The story from the Oz end is fairly well documented.
Thes guys arrived at Port Wakefield in July 1853 on the ship Malacca after a 70 passage from Montevideo to work for the Burra Patent Copper Company.
They appear regularly on the police blotters of the time for knife fighting but as they spoke no English the magistrates usually dismissed the cases!
Unfortunately there are no records of who they were and where they came from in Uruguay, so their story is a dead end from this country
70 Heisenbergcontext (#) Jan 31st, 2014 - 02:40 pm Report abuse
@65 Narine

Tobias, it would taken just a few mouse clicks to discover how much land, through Native Title and previous legislation, has been returned to our indigenous brothers and sisters. Here's the short version: 1 801 779 square km. Collectively more than the entire nation of Iran. Or Peru. Or Columbia. Or Bolivia. The figures are are accurate to the previous December. There are many more claims to come. If you are genuinely interested in the subject of Aboriginal rights I suggest you find a clip of Paul Keating's Redfern speech which is one of the most powerful I've ever heard.

Btw - why do you keep setting yourself up like this for? You're a young man in the prime of his life, on vacation I understand. Why don't you go out and have some fun? When you get older, if you are working full-time and start a family you won't have the freedom to just do whatever you feel like.

@69 Redpoll

Good story. All I could discover ( forgive me if you already know this ) was how many mules died ( lots ) and the confusion over whether the origin of the name Mintaro belongs to the muleteers or to the local Aboriginal people - the Ngadjuri people.
71 paulcedron (#) Jan 31st, 2014 - 02:53 pm Report abuse
“btw-you don't have to live here, so why are you so negative & angry?”
i could ask you exactly the same about argentina.
72 redp0ll (#) Jan 31st, 2014 - 03:13 pm Report abuse
You from SA Hiesenberg? Thanks for the info. Yes I did know that.
For the ignoramuses on this thread you might point out that SA never was a penal colony. They can look up Captain Light whose statue stands in Adelaide
On the subject of statues, I think a favourite encounter point in Perth is Queen Victorias statue
So to arrange a tryst, the chat line is
“Meet you under the Queens skirt”
I like it. Aussie humour.
73 Heisenbergcontext (#) Jan 31st, 2014 - 03:36 pm Report abuse
@72 redpoll

I live about 5 mins walk from Main North Rd ( very, very long road ) which passes within about a couple of km's of Mintaro.

Lived in Perth for many years - my younger siblings still live there - but I confess I never heard that line lol. I've passed through Light Square on countless occasions, never would've occurred to me that a Uruguayan farmer would inspire me check it out. Go figure.
74 redp0ll (#) Jan 31st, 2014 - 03:50 pm Report abuse
Poor old Light. I have degraded him as he was a colonel,not a captain.
Just in case the trolls try to catch me out.
Clare valley still producing some nice wines?
Quite a few muckers in your area with whom I have enjoyed sharing a stubbie or two
75 Heisenbergcontext (#) Jan 31st, 2014 - 03:58 pm Report abuse
Stopped consuming alcoholic beverages many years ago so I couldn't tell you about the quality of the local vineyards - no more stubby holders grace my household anymore either. Sigh...
76 redp0ll (#) Jan 31st, 2014 - 04:10 pm Report abuse
Oh dear, what do you do for a smoko?
77 Heisenbergcontext (#) Jan 31st, 2014 - 04:19 pm Report abuse
White Ox & caffeine of course. We are enduring the mother of all heat-waves presently & there's nothing like a heat-wave to make you wanna crack open ( or twist ) a stubby. But at least my liver's in great shape!
78 redp0ll (#) Jan 31st, 2014 - 04:41 pm Report abuse
WA? Heres a story.
An embellishment on an old joke.
The Parliament of the State of Western Australia sitting in plenary session in Perth found themselves with very little to do or indeed justify their very existence to the voters so the proposal of the MP for Payne’s End was listened to with attention.
“Yer honours, the Poms have some fella called a Poet Laureate as an official poet. I think we in WA should go down the same track”
After much debate it was agreed to set up a Royal Commission to invite and scrutinize entries and to report within 36 months. The competition was duly advertised and a flood of entries were received almost all of which were rejected and the short list was finally reduced to two. One was a professor of literature at Fremantle Uni, the other an aboriginal stockman from Esperance and as a tie breaker they were both called before the Commission and given two minutes to compose a poem containing the word Timbuktu.
The professor was first to recite his efforts.
“Through the whispering desert sand
Winds a lonely caravan
One by one and two by two
Destination Timbuktu”

Then it was the stockman’s turn.
“Tim an me a courtin went
Found three whores in a pop up tent
They was three and we was two
So I buck one and Timbuktu”

Go on mate – you know which way they voted!!!
79 Heisenbergcontext (#) Jan 31st, 2014 - 04:54 pm Report abuse
Brilliant Mr Redpoll. Sandgropers rule. That's all I gotta say.
80 ron_57 (#) Jan 31st, 2014 - 05:24 pm Report abuse
When the islanders are going to stop blaming the argies?
Typical behavior of the bloody rubbish britons.
81 redp0ll (#) Jan 31st, 2014 - 05:32 pm Report abuse
Oh do eff off Sussie and go back to your chosen profession.
82 Clyde15 (#) Jan 31st, 2014 - 05:37 pm Report abuse
When are the bloody rubbish Argies going to stop blaming the British

It's not our fault that you are an inadequate thicko., It's genetics, you are an Argentinian with recessive genes.
83 redp0ll (#) Jan 31st, 2014 - 05:45 pm Report abuse
Clyde don't blame Sussie. As she has said she was abused by her Peruvian father, or was it Paddington Bear?
84 reality check (#) Jan 31st, 2014 - 05:58 pm Report abuse
Be the bloody Britons who sent you home with tail between your legs and the same bloody Britons standing in the way of your South Atlantic Colonial Ambitions, would it?
85 paulcedron (#) Jan 31st, 2014 - 06:36 pm Report abuse
“Mike described the healthy economy, based on a strong fisheries industry, sheep farming and tourism, and the excellent prospects for oil and gas development.” seems this mike is a liar.
tourism in the falklands?
what do you have there to offer?
mountains, lakes, ski resorts, waterfalls, glaciers, art, œuvres d'architecture?
then, it is a fraud
and about oil, do not start celebrating prematurely.
86 Briton (#) Jan 31st, 2014 - 06:43 pm Report abuse seems this mike is a liar
your opinion,,,,,

but it happens to be facts.
87 Clyde15 (#) Jan 31st, 2014 - 06:52 pm Report abuse
I think you have been shot down on this one already. You cannot seem to grasp the concept that not all tourists want what YOU have to offer.

Why do tourists visit small islands ? Because they want to !!!!
There is a small but viable market for this “eco” tourism.

If they want music, culture, food, art etc, they visit European destinations..NOT ARGENTINA.

A small tourist industry suits the Falklands fine. You don't have to go there, others will.
88 ron_57 (#) Jan 31st, 2014 - 07:46 pm Report abuse
The BsAs Herald says that british expats enjoy spending in Argentina,..

...aaaah.. churrasco, chorizos, empanadas, ravioli, polenta con salsa de tomate y queso parmesan, vino, jugo de naranja al natural...cafecito con leche..ahhh good european food found in ARGENTINA.

.. ahhh european good looking people... found in ARGENTINA...

.. ahhh...BsAs looks like Paris....aaah Barichole like Switzerland...

... ahhh ...italian passion...uuuueeee ...all found in ARGENTINA

... ahhh ...european languages in ARGENTINA...the best of all!

____________ VIVA ARGENTINA!
89 A_Voice (#) Jan 31st, 2014 - 07:55 pm Report abuse
Ahh..just the person I wanted to catch....
About a month ago did you receive your register of Electors 2013/14..?
...and with it was there a “Young Voter Registration form for the referendum on Scottish Independence: for those that will be 16 by 18 September.

Is it correct that if there is ”No changes to your Registration details” at the top in red...that you all you do is Enter both parts of the security code, by internet, freephone or Text message...and this is all that is needed to vote in the forthcoming referendum.....?
90 reality check (#) Jan 31st, 2014 - 08:08 pm Report abuse
Their economy is smaller but seems healthier than yours.

Did'nt some clever fellar right a theory about relativity?
91 Pete Bog (#) Jan 31st, 2014 - 08:36 pm Report abuse

“tourism in the falklands?
what do you have there to offer?
mountains, lakes, ski resorts, waterfalls, glaciers, art, œuvres d'architecture?
no? ”

Mountains- in the Falklands =plenty and easy to ascend.
Lakes-the lake district nr to Fox Bay
Ski resorts?-there are no ski resorts in Bermuda either
Waterfalls-yes in the Mt Adam range-one gives you eternal youth by drinking from it.
Glaciers? How many tourist resorts in the world have glaciers-Bermuda, India, Seychelles?
Art-nature is art-plenty in Falklands-ever smelt a Vanilla Daisy intermingled with Cinnamon grass?-that's art-so are the shipwrecks in Stanley harbour.
Architecture-the whalebone arch at Stanley cathedral, Jubillee Villas-the shepherd huts s on Weddell Island wallpapered with 19th century newspapers-suits me.

Military history=several interesting sites where Argentines got the sh*t kicked out of them after their Imperialist venture that disappeared down the tubes.

Too shallow to enjoy unique nature, plants, archaeology?

Stick to your guided tours with one way tickest being shoved out of aircraft into the River Plate
92 lsolde (#) Jan 31st, 2014 - 08:44 pm Report abuse
@64 redpoll,
l read it in a book many years ago, but l've found some information on the net.
The ship was called the Lady Shore & the incident happened in 1797.
To garrison the new colony of New South Wales(which comprised all of Australia except Western Australia)the government raised the New South Wales Corp.
l guess the best troops were fighting in the Napoleonic wars so all the dregs of society were employed & drafted into the NSWC.
There was a detachment of the NSWCorps on board the Lady Shore comprising former French POWs.
These are the ones who began the mutiny.
lf you google Lady Shore Mutiny, there are a few articles about it.
Some are conflicting.
One says that the female convicts were landed in BsAs, another in Montevideo.
Be as that may, the fact is that 66 British female convicts have added to the Latin Am genepool! lol!
Good luck in your research.
btw- l haven't forgotten your request for information re cousins in both the British & German fleets in the Battle of the Falklands in 1914.
Just can't remember the book that it was in & to date haven't found anything on the net.
Regards, l
93 reality check (#) Jan 31st, 2014 - 08:53 pm Report abuse
Sums her up, she'll never get the Falklands.
94 Troy Tempest (#) Jan 31st, 2014 - 09:09 pm Report abuse
87, 89

A_Voice has set one of his “traps” to try and snare another Scot, Escoses, as to whether he is a “real Brit” and eligible to vote in the Referendum
95 Anglotino (#) Jan 31st, 2014 - 09:17 pm Report abuse
@65 Toblerine

Yes we stole the land. WE don't blame anyone else. WE don't blame Europeans or the British. WE don't draw a line in the sand and say that WE absolve ourselves of our past because we are now Australians and the dispossessors weren't. To answer your question, yes and no. Yes we are giving back as much land as we are able to the people dispossessed of it and no we cannot do this to all claimants. As Heisenbergcontext said, nearly 25% of Australia's land is now subject to native title. What's the figure for Argentina?

Why am I an Anglo? What right do you have to ignore my Spanish, Danish, Irish and Scottish heritage or my current one? If I am an Anglo then aren't all Argentineans just Spaniards? Bet you can't answer that. Deflection in 3..2..1..

Even with a change of name you still repeat your past actions. You couldn't counter my claim. But you couldn't do worse than......

@63 Vestige

Not your best post that's for sure.

Honestly it made no sense. Your counter argument of my map wasn't any argument. It supported me.

“Is being a continent some claim to fame now ?”

Well yes it is. The only country or nation history to cover an entire continent. The first and last. That is a claim to fame.

“A manmade word in a language makes Oz somehow wonderful.”

All words are man made. So are languages.

“Russia is massive. Im going to name it a super-duper. Russia is the only country in the world that encompasses a whole super-duper. Aint that just awesome.”

Ok then I have no issue to that. However Russia is CURRENTLY the only super-duper. But unfortunately it was not the first. The Mongol Empire was. And the British Empire was the biggest. Ooops!
British Empire = 33,400,000 km2
Mongol Empire = 33,000,000 km2
Russian Empire = 22,800,000 km2
Spanish Empire 19,400,000 km2
Russia = 17,075,400 km2

“What if the meaning gets changed tomorrow to include NZ. ”

The meaning of continent? Bahahahahahaha Boy I get under your skin.
96 reality check (#) Jan 31st, 2014 - 09:25 pm Report abuse
Oh dear, and such a teeny weeny itty bitty liwtle iwland off the coast of Ewope!

Shucks! must be a mistake!
97 ron_57 (#) Jan 31st, 2014 - 10:00 pm Report abuse
Not a decent hotel, no medical equipment, not an air bus airplane,...
who wants to live in such remote place?
the briiiiiiiiiitish!
98 A_Voice (#) Jan 31st, 2014 - 10:02 pm Report abuse
You boy...are no fun at all.....
...he read it alrighty....that's for sure....
like you... he's looking for the strings.....
99 Vestige (#) Jan 31st, 2014 - 10:04 pm Report abuse
“Well yes it is. The only country or nation history to cover an entire continent. The first and last. That is a claim to fame.”

... yes its a continent ...and so what ... medal for Australia for being an island larger than say, Iceland or Ireland or Japan.
Really consequential.

Theres a guy in the guinness book of records who can balance on a can and play a whistle for the longest recorded time.

He's the first and last. Thats his claim to fame.
But its of no consequence.

Just as being simultaneously a continent and country is. woop di do.
100 redp0ll (#) Jan 31st, 2014 - 10:35 pm Report abuse
@92 thanks Isolde for the pointers. It would make a rattling good historical novel!
And I will certainly do some digging
Incidentally,the diary of the carpenter on the Lady Shore was sold at auction earlier this month for £12,500
101 reality check (#) Jan 31st, 2014 - 10:38 pm Report abuse
Oh dear. you could cut the jealouyt air with a blunt knife here.

I suppose you envy them because they show you where you could be, instead of where you are.

It must be even more embarrassing that apart from you, the rest of the world (your favourite quote) knows it to.
102 ilsen (#) Jan 31st, 2014 - 11:29 pm Report abuse
@97 A do ronron.. ah do ron ron.. and you do run on, like diaorehhahah...
Dear little (secret wannabe) Ronnie Reagan…
“The sandpit is to your LEFT...”

And learning to use cutlery starts at 2pm. No flinging poo in the dining room please ronron.
Anglotino & Ilsen ©2014 (MP)
103 reality check (#) Jan 31st, 2014 - 11:31 pm Report abuse
What's the difference between Argentina and Australia?

He gave the Argentines Heaven and they turned it into hell.

He gave the Australians Hell and they turned it into heaven!
104 ron_57 (#) Feb 01st, 2014 - 12:21 am Report abuse
is that ronnie ragan name only in her little mind?
it seems is night night time for the islanders bloggers...
105 reality check (#) Feb 01st, 2014 - 12:45 am Report abuse

You should tell your dealer to cut it finer!
106 ilsen (#) Feb 01st, 2014 - 01:00 am Report abuse
@104 little ronron
Unlike anyone else here you are incapable of understanding my gentle joshing of your obvious macho insecurities.
namely you wish to be some sort of cowboy/right-wing/film-star but you are just an inadequaute little boy still playing with his pee-pee..
go an join Ma-burro, playing in the sandoit of doom with his little RED bus.
@105 RC
too much bad powder, RonnieR should stick to the sugar. As you are probably aware I do not respond to her posts directly as they are worthless.. like her cheap street coke that she is so desperate for...
107 Anglotino (#) Feb 01st, 2014 - 01:10 am Report abuse

;) bahahahahahaha you gave me the idea and I ran with it. Haha.

Reality Check
“What's the difference between Argentina and Australia?
He gave the Argentines Heaven and they turned it into hell.
He gave the Australians Hell and they turned it into heaven!”

I love that saying. Original?

Between the bushfires, sharks, jellyfish, spiders and snakes; its amazing we survive.
Argentines just have to survive their government.
108 Pete Bog (#) Feb 01st, 2014 - 02:06 am Report abuse

“Not a decent hotel, no medical equipment, not an air bus airplane,..”

No Argentine government there either.

Decent hotels at Sealion Island and Pebble Island.

Medical kit at a place you may not heard of called a hospital.

Flights from Chile in Airbus's and it's going to be an Airbus (Voyageur) supplying the Islands from the UK.

Not very bright are you?
109 ron_57 (#) Feb 01st, 2014 - 06:31 pm Report abuse
“Not very bright are you”...??????

The Waterfront Hotel, Malvina House, Pebble Island Lodge, SeaLion, Darwin House, Kay McCullum B&B and Shorty's Motel are very poor looking in design, furniture, drapes, windows, doors, and appropiate colors. These type of “hotels” are not considered first class hotel.

“Medical kit at a place you may not heard called hospital”...?

All the places I had surgeries had a CT-Scanner including in Sumatra.
Something the islanders still cannot afford to have in the year 2014.

”Flights from Chile in Airbus and it's going to be an Airbus(Voyageur)
supplying the islands from the UK“

The BN islander plane for ”domestic flights” = Crew 1 Passangers 9

I am out to have my seafood buffet lunch at the Bellagio, 5th floor restaurant.
110 lsolde (#) Feb 01st, 2014 - 09:22 pm Report abuse
@109 ron_57,
Well thats nice for you.
lf life in your country is so good,
Why do you want ours?
he he he
111 Think (#) Feb 01st, 2014 - 09:38 pm Report abuse
(110) lsolde
I see you enjoy poking at the weakest minded of the weak minded gender too....
112 Troy Tempest (#) Feb 01st, 2014 - 10:25 pm Report abuse
110 Isolde

Do you notice that the mentally feeble “ron57”/ “Sussie” troll is suddenly extremely flue tin English - to get a message across.

This is a direct parallel to Brassiero who normally speaks gibberish, but on occasion is clear and lucid with a targeted statement.

Both appear to be run by a group of puppeteers, some with more skills than others.

While those two may be entrusted to simpletons most of the time, just to distract with 'covering fire', sometimes a La Campora 'supervisor' like BK takes over for the weekend, or a Level 2, “El Roca grade”, 'Master' puppeteer like Think will sub for a post or two.

I wonder if they have cut back on staff, and now each Troll manages more socks??
113 A_Voice (#) Feb 02nd, 2014 - 12:05 am Report abuse
Maybe at the top there's a Troll King.....I know where he lives.... of my favourite pieces...
114 Think (#) Feb 02nd, 2014 - 12:24 am Report abuse
(113) A_Voice
Edvard is very good….
But Richard………….. Ahhhhhh Richard!
115 A_Voice (#) Feb 02nd, 2014 - 12:48 am Report abuse
114 Think
Yeah you are right I love that too...
also I quite like the Carmina Burana.... Carl Orff
What is worse is I know most of the heart...latin and german...
116 redp0ll (#) Feb 02nd, 2014 - 12:54 am Report abuse
Does Think run the Bettsy ring or is he Betts himself? In either concept he has a lot to learn,in spite of his rat lines to other sources. Not a very good spy.
Says the islanders have his details. Of course they do. He was in the Falklands last year and his immigration details would have been registered on entry
Oh dear Think you didn't travel to the Falklands?
So what was all that guff about Celia's cat?
117 Think (#) Feb 02nd, 2014 - 01:02 am Report abuse
(115) A_Voice
Carmina Burana....
“Cutis Anserina” would be a good name for it too....
118 Joe Bloggs (#) Feb 02nd, 2014 - 07:14 am Report abuse
112 Troy
Did you ever think that Think could e scamming La Campora? Maybe he makes up all of these logins and then claims a fee for each post they all make.

116 redpoll

Think didn't come here; he just loves looking things up on Google and convincing others that he knows about whatever it is he looked up.
119 Clyde15 (#) Feb 02nd, 2014 - 11:43 am Report abuse

I “THINK” that the Falklanders would actually be in agreement with you on this one !

As for Carmina Burana, try the original from the New London Consort conducted by Philip Picket. These are available on two albums and are played on original musical instruments of the time using the music written on the original manuscripts. The female soloist -Catherine Bott- has a beautiful voice.
120 Think (#) Feb 02nd, 2014 - 12:27 pm Report abuse
(119) Clyde15

The Sassenach paras marching on Wagner Walkirias and the Yankee Rangers priding themselves with the SS Totenkopf......
What does that say about the Anglo_Saxon soldiers?

I will listen to Picket's Carmina later......
Thanks for the tip...
121 redp0ll (#) Feb 02nd, 2014 - 12:53 pm Report abuse
@118 Joe don't discourage Think. He is our court Jester on these blogs
He loves fishing in troubled waters and even has an old Hardy rod to do it.
Split cane or greenheart Think?
Nice easy action eh? Or a bit stiff?
(No scatalogical comments on that please)
122 Think (#) Feb 02nd, 2014 - 03:26 pm Report abuse
(121) redp0ll
Geeeeeee........, Split-Cane or Greenheart...?
I called my tackle vintage; not antique...!
I’m a Back-Country fisherman…
I need me rods to be responsive, tough & durable…
Me Hardy Glaskonas' & Perfections' glassrods are all that….
The new Hardy Sintrix Zenith rods are not bad though… Not bad at all…
123 Kelper Corky (#) Feb 02nd, 2014 - 09:23 pm Report abuse
Not much to learn, they are just uneducated 2000 bennys piguinos eating meat and never will be a nation.
124 Anglotino (#) Feb 03rd, 2014 - 05:43 am Report abuse
They are already a nation.

Look up the definition Argie Corky.
125 Kelper Corky (#) Feb 03rd, 2014 - 02:56 pm Report abuse
The 5 islands will disappear by climate change:

1. Salomon Islands
2. Malvimas
3. Seychelles
4. Fiji
5. Samoa

hahahaha bennys, start preparing the oars.
126 lsolde (#) Feb 03rd, 2014 - 09:17 pm Report abuse
@125 Kelper Corky,
lf that happens, Corky, we'll just invade & take over mainland Argentina.
Then “implant”(ha ha)ourselves there.
l'm sure we could put the country to better use than you stupid malvinistas.
127 Troy Tempest (#) Feb 04th, 2014 - 12:15 am Report abuse
126 Isolde

Lol !!!

Do I sense you are losing patience with Malvista snide banter ??!

I laughed out loud at that one!

On that note, I would if “Mal's” like “Corky” are finding it very different posting on here with our reactions instead if the schoolboy sniggering they must do when Paul, Toby, and ron57 post and show their 'cleverness' to each other.

“Oops, those Brits and Islsnders said something mean to us... ”

128 redp0ll (#) Feb 04th, 2014 - 12:59 am Report abuse
Yes Buenos Aireses might well disappear beneath the sea also.
Even a lot of provincial Argentines, looked down upon by the arrogant porteños, might be quite happy about that
129 ilsen (#) Feb 04th, 2014 - 04:15 am Report abuse
I only wish that waves of intelligence might one day wash over the the shores of Agrentina...
130 Clyde15 (#) Feb 04th, 2014 - 10:54 am Report abuse
I have been both to the Seychelles and Fiji.

Look at Mahé on a map. You will see that there is a central range of hills at 470 metres Praslin, La Digue also have areas well above any affect of the ice caps melting.
The main islands in Fiji are also mountainous and apart from the smaller atolls, the bulk of the land would be largely unaffected

The affect on Argentina would be that B.A.,Rosario, Santa Fé would be well under the sea, as would other coastal settlements.
Yes, bits of the Falklands would be underwater but there is still a lot of land above 100 metres.
It appears that Argentina would come off worst.

I take it that you are a child and/or a product of the Argentine education system.
Not very impressive !
131 redp0ll (#) Feb 04th, 2014 - 01:06 pm Report abuse
Enlighten me please.
Where are the Salomon Islands and the Malvimas?
132 lsolde (#) Feb 04th, 2014 - 10:40 pm Report abuse
@131 redpoll,
l noticed the Salomons but missed the Malvimas! lol.
Which one are they claiming again?
Malvimas or Malvinas?
Neither exist, so if they can find them, they're welcome to them.
133 Think (#) Feb 05th, 2014 - 04:53 pm Report abuse
(131) redp0ll & (132) lsolde

Not surprising that you two Engrish Falklandists don't know where the Salomon Islands are...

For your info, the Salomon Islands are located in the the Chagos Archipelago........ also known by the haughty, double-speaking English colonialist pirates as “British Indian Ocean Territory.”
134 dab14763 (#) Feb 05th, 2014 - 05:10 pm Report abuse
Except that Corky meant Solomon Islands

and the Maldives
135 Think (#) Feb 05th, 2014 - 05:26 pm Report abuse
(134) dab14763

You say...:
“Except that Corky meant Solomon Islands”

I say....:
And how do you know that?
Do you know her?
Do you have a crystal ball as Yankeeboy?
Or are you just “assuming” things, as you usually do?

Here, a working link to the “SALOMON ISLANDS”, you know, the place you English deported the Chagossians from ...:
136 dab14763 (#) Feb 05th, 2014 - 06:11 pm Report abuse
Because there are plenty of web pages dealing with rising sea levels and the Solomon Islands.

Because Corky's list coincides in numerical order with the first 5 given here
137 Think (#) Feb 05th, 2014 - 06:28 pm Report abuse
(136) dab14763

1) You tried t make a “qualified” assumption then.....

2) As you (as an English teacher in a Spanish speaking country) surely knew, and as your link above confirms, the Pacific Ocean Solomon Islands are called ISLAS SALOMON in Spanish (And in French, Portuguese and Italian)....

3) As you maybe don't know, the Indian Ocean Salomon Islands hicht is even lower than Pacific Ocean Solomon Islands.....
138 dab14763 (#) Feb 05th, 2014 - 06:56 pm Report abuse
2) Which Corky mistakenly translated as Salomon Islands

3) Maybe so, but there are plenty of web pages dealing with the threat to the Solomon Islands and very few dealing with any threat to the Salomon Islands. And it's most likely s/he got his/her list from a page such as I quoted above.
139 Clyde15 (#) Feb 05th, 2014 - 07:07 pm Report abuse
Edvard is very good….
But Richard………….. Ahhhhhh Richard!
The Sassenach paras marching on Wagner Walkirias and the Yankee Rangers priding themselves with the SS Totenkopf......
What does that say about the Anglo_Saxon soldiers?

It means that they are a bunch of heroes following in the Viking tradition ...unlike ????????. Now who could I be thinking of

You extolling Wagner, Hitler's and the Nazi regimes favourite composer !
I can see why it is popular in Argentina. The Nazis who fled there
Oh it feels SO G at the end of WW2 found a sympathetic ear for their favourite composer.
What does that say about you ? Answers on a postcard to Think...wherever he is

I looked at this list by “Russian boy” ??????
Full of stupid inaccuracies..see#130

Salomon Islands. Highest point about 10 metres
Diego Garcia Highest point about 20 metres. Mean height about 2 metres

At last a sensible point about the Chagossians. This island chain will be uninhabitable with even a small rise in sea level
In that case they are better off out of it. Put them back and they would drown...
the Argentinian solution ! We have actually saved their lives by giving them money and settling them on Mauritius.

Oh, it feels SO GOOD to be British and ALWAYS right !
140 Think (#) Feb 05th, 2014 - 08:34 pm Report abuse
(139) Clyde15
You say...:
“It means that they are a bunch of heroes following in the Viking tradition”
I say...:
More like a bunch of testosterone deranged young men following in the 5th Viking tradition...

War criminal Mr. Tony Bliar happens to be a big admirer of that great Irish painter, Mr. Francis Bacon...
Does that detract anything from Bacon's art.......? I don't “Think” so...

War criminal Mr. Adolf Hitler happened to be a big admirer of that great German composer, Mr. Richard Wagner...
Does that detract anything from Wagner's art.......? I don't “Think” so...

War criminal Mr. Joseph Stalin happened to like Roast and Veggies...
Do I eat Roast and Veggies........? Yes sir, I do indeed...
141 Clyde15 (#) Feb 05th, 2014 - 10:47 pm Report abuse
Basically, what you are saying is, Think likes it so it is OK. Purely innocent.
Paras. have it as their march....not OK, must be evil.
I suppose in your mind, anyone who is willing to go into danger, risk losing their life for their country is deranged.
To compare the Paras. who fought Nazism to a mercenary SS Division is arrant nonsense.
The notorious Dr. Josef Mengele, served with the SS Division “Wiking”

I will admit that the connotations with Wagner for the Paras. is dubious,
however, warriors who come from the sky seems apt.

Valkyries was used to accompany several editions of Die Deutsche Wochenschau, the German wartime newsreel. These films were typically narrated by Harry Giese and featured sequences of Luftwaffe bombings.
There is little doubt that the great German composer Richard Wagner was one of the most virulent anti-Semites in modern history as well as being Adolf Hitler’s most revered cultural role-model. Nor can it be seriously disputed that his music arouses the most painful associations in many Holocaust survivors still living in Israel.

It's pretty damned hard to disassociate the man from his beliefs .
In your original post I read it that you admired the man.

It would have been better if they had used Lili Marlene but the 8th Army commandeered that for their own
142 Think (#) Feb 05th, 2014 - 10:59 pm Report abuse
(141) Clyde15

You say...:
“I suppose in your mind, anyone who is willing to go into danger, risk losing their life for their country is deranged.”

I say...:
You mean..... like Osama's bunch?

I can see that you conveniently choose to forget to comment on the 75th Rangers SS Totenkopf.....
143 Clyde15 (#) Feb 06th, 2014 - 10:43 am Report abuse
As you may have gathered by now, I am British. If you wish me to comment on unit badges of the American Military then I will have to do some research.
From my general knowledge, I know of the 75th Rangers BUT I don't know of the SHUTZSTAFFEL TOTENKOPF UNIT.
I think it very unlikely that they were an US unit whose primary function was the protection of Hitler and the Nazi party. However, perhaps you know differently.
Please enlighten me on this obvious gap in my knowledge.

As to
I say...:
You mean..... like Osama's bunch?

Your analogy is lost on me. Your convoluted postings muddy the water.
144 ck177 (#) Feb 06th, 2014 - 08:15 pm Report abuse
learning about the islands,,,,,in 2014?
aussies retards!
145 Clyde15 (#) Feb 06th, 2014 - 09:38 pm Report abuse
For my benefit could you tell me what “uuuuuuuuuuuujajaja” means.
I could not find it in my Spanish dictionary.
I presume you are a Spanish speaker as you could not put the two words “aussies retards!” to mean anything sensible. If you wish to insult someone, at least make the effort so that we can understand it. I discussed the correct use of this expression for your edification in a previous post. Please pay attention !

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