MercoPress. South Atlantic News Agency
Argentine ultra-Kirchner militants call for government control over foreign trade
Following on President Cristina Fernandez administration strategy of blaming big business and banks as speculators that force price increases and the devaluation of the Peso, this weekend a group which brings together intellectuals who support the Argentine Kirchnerite Victory Front have published a new letter titled “The Nation in Danger”. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesWhy do these problems keep happening only in Argentina?
Feb 10th, 2014 - 04:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0Why can so many other countries successful manage and harness multinationals and large companies to operate successfully and actually help grow the economy?
The common denominator in all of Argentina's past economic crises is......
drum roll please.....
ARGENTINA.
“...advance in mechanisms that establish state management of foreign trade...”
Feb 10th, 2014 - 05:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0“It is therefore indispensable to extract the availability of those resources from the monopolies blackmail and guarantee government control.”
Intellectual cover/justification for stealing the soy crop.
Yes that will help.
Feb 10th, 2014 - 06:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0I mean the government have run YPF so well that it is now making a profit...er...oh wait...
I'm sure it will do as well with taking over everything else.
Argentina really is finished if these clowns are their 'intellectuals'. No wonder Tobias (aka Nostrils, TTT) believes himself to be a genius if these are all he has to compare himself to.
The system of state control has not worked in other countries, Do the Kurchner fanatics think that it will work in Argentina? Has it not been tried before and failed?
Feb 10th, 2014 - 07:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0Think of the USSR, Cuba, Venezuela. Please correct me if I am wrong
Lloro por tí Argentina.
A bunch of tossers who haven't yet learned from the fall of the Soviet Union and planned economy.
Feb 10th, 2014 - 09:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0I think they should do it. Give them total control so that, when it fails, they really will have no one to blame.
Feb 10th, 2014 - 10:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0Stupid left-wing scum. Keep driving the country to the ground, we are never getting out of this one.
Feb 10th, 2014 - 11:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0Obviously they don't care so long as the government pays them to side with them.
In the Spanish version they called these fools K Intellectuals, I almost peed my pants laughing at the oxymoron.
Feb 10th, 2014 - 12:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Like everything the Ks do, its a 1x event that gets them through a tough patch but ruins the next generation.
I hope hope hope hope the Ks try to take the farmers grains.
I really really really want to see that.
@8 They are getting desperate, and they will do anything to survive for bit longer.
Feb 10th, 2014 - 01:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As far as the wheat prices are concerned, I bought a mid-quality loaf of bread for 28 pesos, when a couple of years ago I could get a loaf of Oroweat for 14. What does that tell you?
They are losing support. Some of the kids that tag the streets with pro-K propaganda started replacing the graffiti with counter graffiti. “La Campora” is now, “La Cajon”. “Chau Clarin” is now, “Chau P.J.” It was taxi drivers, and now their own disenchanted youth are turning against them.
“Carta Abierta” ?? Just digging the hole deeper....
Feb 10th, 2014 - 02:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Frightening developments
Feb 10th, 2014 - 03:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0- villifying CEOs and company officials personally, as enemies of the people and the country
- a government “whipping up the mob” against their scapegoats
- the government is poised to take control of businesses, private assets and commerce
I see a class war erupting - all to save the K's
@8 There are rumours on some RG chat rooms that certain sections of “the right” are buying up weapons and arming themselves...if this is true it wouldn't surprise me that much given that the government is laying the ground by discussing the anti-hording bill on a daily basis...
Feb 10th, 2014 - 03:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 012. The farmers are well armed. I can't see CFK using the military to confiscate the Soy, probably AFIP agents and they'll be no match for the Farmers and the surrounding communities.
Feb 10th, 2014 - 03:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0600 muggings/thefts in Palermo in 90 days! That used to be considered a decent/safe place to live. The city must be on the brink of collapse.
@1
Feb 10th, 2014 - 03:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The problem is multinational in the rest of the world invest in the country.
In Argentina they always invested to REMOVE from the country.
600 reported robberies in Palermo in the last 90 days. That used to be considered a relatively nice and safe area of BA. ( reported means the number is actually much higher since people are afraid to report)
Feb 10th, 2014 - 03:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I guess the city is collapsing if they don't get control back it will look like Caracas in a few years.
Carta Abierta has being going for quite some time… Nobody actually listens to them. It’s just a bunch of old collage commies paid by the gov’t to come up with these extraordinary theories or concepts wrapped up in fancy wording, but completely dis-attached from fact or reality to defend and justify the kirchnerite policy. This group is only there to keep the brainwashed convinced because “theeeeee intellectuals” say its right what the gov’t is doing, therefore it must be right…
Feb 10th, 2014 - 03:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A bit like the old shamans of the tribe.
Mass shootings in USA up 300% in 4 years.
Feb 10th, 2014 - 03:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://thelead.blogs.cnn.com/2014/01/15/expert-mass-shootings-on-the-rise/
Seems the societal collapse of the USA is imminent.
17 > Whataboutery will not win a debate. It just shows everyone how poorly educated you are.
Feb 10th, 2014 - 03:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I live in a major city and nobody here is worried about muggings or getting kidnapped at an ATM machine or motochorros attacking your car in broad daylight on the most traveled road in the country.
Right, because you say so.
Feb 10th, 2014 - 04:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nope not me, I'm just repeating what I read in the BA newspapers.
Feb 10th, 2014 - 04:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://tn.com.ar/policiales/segun-una-asociacion-vecinal-de-palermo-hubo-600-robos-en-90-dias_448420
http://tn.com.ar/policiales/segun-una-asociacion-vecinal-de-palermo-hubo-600-robos-en-90-dias_448420
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Feb 10th, 2014 - 04:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Self defence and viglante groups is the only solution
@20
Feb 10th, 2014 - 04:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That's because Argentines CRITICIZE their society. Something Americans never do even if 25 six-year olds in their own classroom, or 12 high school kids, or 33 college students with all their lives head of them are blow off.
21. Yep, when I lived there I had patrols on the front and back of my property at night. I also had a very scary armed driver.
Feb 10th, 2014 - 04:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 022. You are right nobody here said anything. In fact we want more mass shootings.
Argentina is collapsing and you're talking about the USA. That's just sad.
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Feb 10th, 2014 - 04:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes there is a lot of fooocked up people in the US...
I've being pretty impressed by the results of the self defence groups of Michoacan in Mexico. I think we shoud study that alternative.
24. When the state can't protect it's citizens they have the right to protect themselves.
Feb 10th, 2014 - 04:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Mexico is a disaster. I used to go there to vacation but stopped a few years ago when all the beheadings started. They're animals.
I know. But I think the people of the SouthWestern state of Michoacan have being very brave to stand up against the organized crime and the corrupt Narco State of Peña Nieto. They have liberated Apatzingán yesterday from the templars cartel.
Feb 10th, 2014 - 04:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.urgente24.com/223690-autodefensas-entraron-triunfalmente-a-apatzingan
Now Peña Nieto is obliged to side with the self defense groups...
@23
Feb 10th, 2014 - 04:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Obviously not tell me one thing that has changed in the USA laws of handling mentally ill people, or posession of guns, or anything in between, since then.
ONE.
You are all too busy watching those fake reality shows that have already been discarded in the rest of the world. But you Americans still love them. You are 5 years behind.
Talking of crime:
Feb 10th, 2014 - 04:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It has been reported that the truck that crashed into the bus outside Mendoza, killing 17, had been hijacked.
Toby, if you want to discuss the USA go find another board.
Feb 10th, 2014 - 04:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I am sure there are plenty of people out there that are just as ill informed jealous and hopeless as you are.
You can probably strike up a great conversation with someone from Iran, Syria or North Korea I am sure you'll find plenty of topics to agree on with them regarding the USA.
@28
Feb 10th, 2014 - 04:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Reported no, invented by the Brazilian press.
Liar liar skirt on fire.
It is not good for a religious missionary to lie.
Next.
Those long range bus drivers are always drunk. I was shocked that that's the way most Rgs still travel. I can't imagine a 13 hr bus ride.
Feb 10th, 2014 - 04:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Gads how awful!
Far more comfortable than the air-cattle freights you get stuffed in.
Feb 10th, 2014 - 04:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 032. Primitive monkey.
Feb 10th, 2014 - 05:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'm not the one being shoved in a flying cage and thrown peanuts 10.000 meters up...
Feb 10th, 2014 - 05:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just another NEUTROLL OBSERVATION
@34 Have you ever flown?
Feb 10th, 2014 - 05:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No he hasn't.
Feb 10th, 2014 - 05:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Odd that he is defending bus travel.
He's probably scared to fly.
@30 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-26090917
Feb 10th, 2014 - 06:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-26090917
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-26090917
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-26090917
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-26090917
“government control over foreign trade”?
Feb 10th, 2014 - 06:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0is this what classes as International business foreplay in fairyland
I just wondered because I fly a lot and have never had peanuts thrown at me. Is it an Aerolineas thing?
Feb 10th, 2014 - 06:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0LAN do serve warmed nuts with cocktails before take off. BA serve cocktails, a beautifully prepared meal with fine wines. Then while I am in the bathroom changing into my pyjamas (gifted by the airline) a member of the cabin crew makes up my bed for me.
I flew on one of the LAN dream liners from Santiago to NYC just before Christmas and it was excellent. The cabin was very spacious and the beds comfortable.
#30
Feb 10th, 2014 - 06:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The are all lying !! Nothing bad could ever happen in Mendoza. It is paradise.
The pictures have all been produced in Photoshop and the BA Herald is a mouthpiece of the despised Anglos !.
As Aerolineas Argentinas is YOUR national airline, I wouldn't fly either !!!!
30 A_neuTroll_Observer
Feb 10th, 2014 - 06:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“It is not good for a religious missionary to lie.”
But it's ok for you to lie.....right???
You were an EUian last week, now you're South American.... What are you going to try and pass yourself off as next week Tobi????
Poor deluded child........
Anteater, yr #30 in reply to ElaineB's #28 =“Reported no, invented by the Brazilian press”.......I'm not defending the press, but were you present at the accident ?? or are you just farting out of your mouth ??
Feb 10th, 2014 - 07:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Isn't this news BRILLIANT!
Feb 10th, 2014 - 09:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We can all sit and wait for the “argie Army” of 100,000 regulars with outdated FN full auto SLR’s with 5 rounds between the lot of them “backing up” the government!
If anybody has a brain left in The Dark Country they will get rid of the Peronistas once and for all.
But it won’t happen, and The Dark Country will get darker and dimmer in the international arena until, like the Cheshire Cat, it will disappear up its own culo.
I totally agree with the government on this one - particularly strict control on the sale of USD. I suspect most of the retrobates on this site would much rather see the country collapse and all the implications of that for the Argentinian people
Feb 10th, 2014 - 09:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I brought my Ferrari down from the US last week and quite happily paid all the tax and duties on that - I didn't mind paying more - it is my duty to support my country and government in times of economic difficulty
I don't go crying to the newspapers and the media and criticizing government policy when times get tough
43 ChrisR
Feb 10th, 2014 - 09:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Maybe we should make popcorn and sit back to enjoy the show.
From a safe distance of course.................Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.
Hehe El Diego bough his Ferrari down from the US and yet still has time to comment on here.
Feb 10th, 2014 - 09:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I wonder if he throws lollies out at the beggars as he drives past them?
Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.
Feb 10th, 2014 - 09:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No truer words have been posted on this site.
@44
Feb 11th, 2014 - 12:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0I'm happy for you “Diego” ... I just wonder if you will be able to properly enjoy your new ride in the pristine argentinian roads -billiard table smooth thanks to the taxes heroes like you pay to our current brilliant administrators.
What's your secret? Please, let me be a part of your inner circle, I'd like to have my own nac&pop Ferrari ... Whoaaaa!
One of my favourite things about the recent rainfall in this part of sunny england is that all the reservoirs and aquifers are full and will be full for the next two years. Therefore I am totally justified in my hobby of repeatedly flushing the loo and yelling incomprehensible slogans about capitalism to simulate argentine economic policy.
Feb 11th, 2014 - 01:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0S'not the done thing when there's a drought on but right now it's FANTASTIC!
@47
Feb 11th, 2014 - 03:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0That could actually be true. Thus, I forgive you all.
(No, I take it back)
44 El Diego
Feb 11th, 2014 - 03:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0“I brought my Ferrari down from the US last week and quite happily paid all the tax and duties on that - I didn't mind paying more - it is my duty to support my country and government in times of economic difficulty”
* rolls eyes *
snigger, snigger
The stupidest part of el Diego's post is that there are so few Ferraris in Argentina that one arriving via import from the USA would actually be newsworthy.
Feb 11th, 2014 - 11:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0It would be in one of the major newspapers as they try to figure out who the idiot was with enough political connections and U$ to bring in a car they can't drive on the roads for fear of being swarmed by motochorros to be kidnapped and have the car stolen.
And why oh why would you have bought this car 1 month AFTER the taxes doubled when you could have imported it at the gov't rate and lower taxes in Dec.
So either your lying or really stupid.
Silly silly fool.
I he is 'the' Diego shouldn't he be buying a people carrier for all those kids he has?
Feb 11th, 2014 - 12:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Neutrol Anteater @50.....no more lies to tell with respect to # 42 ??
Feb 11th, 2014 - 04:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@54 He won't answer. When he knows he is wrong he disappears.
Feb 11th, 2014 - 05:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@55, typical of all Trolls in MP...just as well, really not worthwhile wasting time on them...
Feb 11th, 2014 - 06:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I brought the Ferrari paying all taxes - what's wrong with having a Ferrari in Argentina? What's wrong with having money and individuals getting rich - isn't that the free market model you all propagate?
Feb 12th, 2014 - 02:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0Perhaps a whiff of jealousy coming across in some of the more negative posts
El Diego's new Nac&Pop Ferrari...
Feb 12th, 2014 - 03:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://josashobbylobby.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/090310-barbie-ferrari-1.jpg
@57
Feb 12th, 2014 - 05:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0I agree with - you have every right to purchase a fine Italian automobile. In fact why not buy two if you have the Ducats? Unless they come with some special scratch-proof paint though, I wouldn't consider it a wise investment.
@58
How come Ken doesn't get one? Bloody sexist Mattel...
58
Feb 12th, 2014 - 06:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0Is that El Diego driving, or Fabio Testa? They are so much alike, I'm sure>
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