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Pope Francis meets Malvinas war veterans and next of kin
Pope Francis met on Wednesday with a group of Malvinas veterans and next of kin of fallen in the Malvinas war, two weeks before the 32nd anniversary of the Argentine military invasion of the conflict. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesI trust that the Pope will also be meeting with British veterans and NOK of those killed in the Falklands War?
Mar 20th, 2014 - 08:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0I also trust that the Pope will visit the Falkland Islands and speak to the Islanders who were terrorised by the brutal Argentine military occupation?
If he doesn't then he is just a hypocrite of the highest order.
I think that's a bit harsh. He may be God's right hand man, but he's still a man. He didn't support the war but did support his countrymen and is saddened at the loss of any life. I'm sure if families of lost British soldiers go to Rome, he'll pray with them too
Mar 20th, 2014 - 08:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0Ushuaia the end of the world? Thats a polite way of putting it, Puerto Williams is further South.
Mar 20th, 2014 - 09:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0@1 LEPRecon,
Mar 20th, 2014 - 10:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0l fully support what you say.
lf he doesn't meet with the British veterans & NOK, & the Falklanders, then he is exposed as an Argentine stooge.
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Mar 20th, 2014 - 12:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“ I'm sure if families of lost British soldiers go to Rome, he'll pray with them too”
exactly
I am quite that Elizabeth the Second, by the Grace of God, of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and of Her other Realms and Territories Queen, Head of the Commonwealth, Defender of the Faith, will put the latest paedophile Pope in his place.
Mar 20th, 2014 - 12:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@6
Mar 20th, 2014 - 12:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nothing proven yet, but many others have, and just been moved on to carry on somewhere else.
the paedophile priests are, basically, from britain and the u.s. and some other british former colonies.
Mar 20th, 2014 - 12:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0well, you are also famous for having paedophile cops, actors, political figures, etc.
must be a genetic thing.
'More than 100 police' under suspicion in paedophilia crackdown
POLITICAL PAEDOPHILES
As the Jimmy Savile scandal continues, more and more revelations are emerging of high ranking political figures suspected involvement in paedophilia.
Jimmy Savile and British Establishments Paedophile ring
The heart of British Establishment – A Paedophilic Obsession
Paul, Refresh my memory on 2 things, who was the Rg priest that had a not-for-profit he used to molest kids and what is the name of the Catholic School in San Isidro where the Priests molested 5 boys from one family over many years?
Mar 20th, 2014 - 01:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I used to tell Toby, its not like you don't have the crime there its that your police are too corrupt and stupid to actually find it or do anything about it. That's if they aren't directly involved themselves.
8 Paul
Mar 20th, 2014 - 03:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“'More than 100 police' under suspicion in paedophilia crackdown”
nice quotation marks Paul, but you have failed to attribute that statement to anyone.
Could it be the Argentinian cops, then?? :-)
I hope your Dad has a secure, inflation-proof job.
Internet will be cut off soon, if the blackouts don't shut you down first.
Meanwhile, in the world that matters...
The Royal visit could be fun - Prince Philip will be there!
Mar 20th, 2014 - 04:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@8 paul
Mar 20th, 2014 - 05:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“the paedophile priests are, basically, from britain and the u.s. and some other british former colonies.”
OK, so excluding the US, the UK and the entire commonwealth, that only leaves scandals in the following that I've found with very little effort:
The Phillipines
Austria
Belgium
Croatia
France
Germany
Italy
The Netherlands
Norway
Poland
Slovenia
Sweden
Mexico
Argentina
Brazil
Chile
and Peru
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Mar 20th, 2014 - 05:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0yankeeboy
it was not a priest but a teacher, and the kids were 2, not 5.
and the son of a b*tch is jailed right now.
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troy
“nice quotation marks Paul, but you have failed to attribute that statement to anyone.”
you don´t read too much except this sh*tty newspaper, do you?
“A list of more than 2,400 Britons who the FBI believes have subscribed to paedophile websites contains the names of more than 100 police officers, including a detective chief superintendent, it was revealed last night.”
“The arrests of 41-yearold Detective Constable Brian Stevens and PC Tony Goodridge, 34, who worked on the Soham inquiry, highlighted a huge problem which the Government has failed to address.”
Please let's not start arguing over who has more paedoes, it's infantile.
Mar 20th, 2014 - 05:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@12 hope you are not at work, your web history may cause you some problems :)
Going back to the topic:
@4 if the Pope doesn't meet British veterans, NOK, Falklanders then yes he is a hypocrite, but as the story says, the Argentines went to visit him not the other way round. So it is up to the Brits to go to Rome if they want an audience with the big man himself and we then can see if he meets them or not.
I hope these are real veterans and not subsidised unionists like the ones who have just died in the islands in a accident, all going around the world with tax payers money.
Mar 20th, 2014 - 06:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 011.000 conscripripts in the islands only 300 died fighting in them. Yet payroll of the Argentine State covers up to 25.000 plus “war veterans”... Yeah right.
http://www1.rionegro.com.ar/diario/2008/06/14/20086v14s02.php
POPE-will you meat the British Falkland's veterans.
Mar 20th, 2014 - 07:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0or will hypercritic be the order of the day ?
Just a few questions:
Mar 20th, 2014 - 07:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 01) did they give the Chief Delusionist a medal for living in Ushuaia, he certainly should have one for living in a place with no function outfall sewer for more than two years (I suspect it has yet to be repaired, even now);
2) did one of the glorious veterans show the Chief Delusionist his “medal” for LOSING THE WAR, HA, HA, HA?
3) did they like his dress?
4) since when did it become a “conflict” and not a war? It couldn’t be because NOBODY in Argentina was involved, was it, only the dastardly Junta?
What a waste of space the RCC and all the other “religions” are in the modern world. Islam is not a religion, it has been subverted into a terrorist organisation.
Are all you “believers” so shit scared of being alone because there is no God? Relax; when you are dead, you are dead and gone forever, back to stardust (after another 4.6 billion years(ish). Make the best of what you have everyday and live each as if it were the last: tomorrow might be!
Why is it that atheists need to bully around believers?
Mar 20th, 2014 - 08:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0All extremes are bad I’m afraid, as western society and culture decays away, retreats as it abandons its traditional values, Islam and other forms of organized ideologies and religions that offer order and sense of destiny, values and greater purpose (whatever it may be) will prove more powerful and more enticing than empty materialist society.
Im not a religious guy myself but I defiantly do see the importance of religion in society. Therefore I hope and wish the Pope the best of luck.
@14 La Patria,
Mar 20th, 2014 - 09:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes of course, you are right.
@17 ChrisR,
l believe in life after death.
l believe that the soul is immortal.
But l don't believe what the organised religions say will happen.
There is no heaven or hell.
The concept of Hell was created by priests in the Dark Ages/Middle Ages to keep the Peasants in line.
And Heaven was your reward for being obedient!
The whole thing has been perverted by organised religion.
Any reference to Reincarnation has been removed from the Bible.
Jesus never said that we should have churches, priests or bishops etc.
Anyway, Chris, not trying to convert you.
Think that l dislike organised religion as much as you do!
Peace.
Blessed be.
@14 'the Argentines went to visit him'
Mar 21st, 2014 - 01:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0Did they go or were they sent?.... I bet they didn't pay their own way.
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Mar 21st, 2014 - 03:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0You could be right there. If they were used as cfk pawns though I'd hate to think that the pope was complicit. Wouldn't it be nice to have British and Argentine veterans along with the islanders to all sit down with priests of any denomination to help clear some of the awful nightmares they suffered......just them , no politicians.
Well british squaddies tend not to be church goers of any denomination and the few that do are likely to be C of E so the chances of any falkland veterans wanting to meet the pope is a bit slim.
Mar 21st, 2014 - 09:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0Think there have been contacts between various ex combatants they tend to hold little bitterness towards one another not having chosen to start the conflict.
@14 La Patria.
Mar 21st, 2014 - 10:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0Not a problem, I only looked as far as wikipedia, and work won't mind that. They have a lot more fun when some of the stuff that the academics that I work for start ordering (in total innocence) drug and chemical weapon precursors. Now that paperwork can be a nightmare
@LEPRecon
Mar 21st, 2014 - 12:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Let me clarify that I'm agnostic so the Pope means nothing to me but, taking into account Francis attitude and responsibilites (as leader of the Vatican) I have no doubt that he would accept a meeting with the British veterans and NOK in the Falklands War. Have they asked for a meeting?
As regards “the Islanders who were terrorised by the brutal Argentine military occupation?”..what is this about? Brutal occupation? As a British journalist wrote in the media ”after all the argentine occupation was not that bad taking into account that the three civil (islanders) casualties was the result of British forces militar activities”.
So, comparing the argentine occupation to a nazi occupation is false and misleading.
In addition, playing the role of the victim seems to be the strategy of the UK Government in the South Atlantic. A victim with nuclear submarines, spy satellites, state of the art warships and war planes......quite a victim !!!
A victim is the party that is attacked by the aggressor. Even if the aggressor picks the wrong fight, the victim of the attack is still the victim.
Mar 21st, 2014 - 12:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@24
Mar 21st, 2014 - 12:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0have you got the link to the article you quote ?
His personal views of the Falkands aside, this Pope seems a pretty decent fellow. What's also admirable about him is the fact his has chosen to return to the land of his fathers.
Mar 21st, 2014 - 04:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We can only hope more of them RG squatters follow his lead: Hector old boy, your homeland the Ukraine is in desperate need of good foreign relations expertise; stay by the phone Hector, they are going to call you any second...
The Pope is clearly taking sides in this debate and is not neutral, he has previous form also with regard to this. If he really wanted peace, he would have been sensitive to invite parties from both sides but he doesnt do this- he is not stupid, he knows precisely what he is doing. Accepting 3 visits from TMBOA in a year is getting embarrasing, people will start to talk. The Pope is not infallible he is human just like us with his own predjudices, but now he is in a position of influence, big shame on him really
Mar 21st, 2014 - 08:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ 19 lsolde
Mar 21st, 2014 - 10:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0With my love of the French, I think I was a Longbowman at the Battle of Agincourt.
I kid you not I have, over a number of years, had dreams of putting a bodkin in a number of French knights, and I still have my two fingers!
Thank you for those kind words and peace to you and your loved ones.
:o)
Going back to the original story, should the pope be taking sides, maybe he will need to retire earlier like his predecessor when they found out more about his past during the war, much of which the general public will never know
Mar 23rd, 2014 - 09:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0For Argentina to involve the pope is scraping the bottom of the barell, something we know they do alot.
Maybe we need to do the same, but then again, no we don't.
A long time ago, the UK broke away from the corrupt Catholic Church, away from the outdated practices that make it a very worrying breeding place of some strange characters.
In fact, if we look at some heavily catholic countries, we can see that madness featured there, such as Argentina.
But now we know why they are really there: they want a chapel in the Falklands argie cemetery!
Mar 24th, 2014 - 04:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And the Popsicle looks like he has fallen for it.
Religion: the death of man since before Zero and the coming of the Christians.
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